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I came across some Solena Pinot *Gris* (2010 Williamette) today. The
wine merchant agreed that it was just Pinot Grigio but said that the
vintner felt that "Pinot" was French and wanted to be consistent for
some reason. Well, we'll see what it is like.
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:51:12 -0400, James Silverton
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I came across some Solena Pinot *Gris* (2010 Williamette) today. The
wine merchant agreed that it was just Pinot Grigio but said that the
vintner felt that "Pinot" was French and wanted to be consistent for
some reason. Well, we'll see what it is like.




There are lots of Pinot Gris made in France, and elsewhere. Pinot
Grigio and Pinot Gris are the same grape, "Pinot Grigio" is the
Italian name for it and "Pinot Gris" is the French name. Both "Grigio"
and "Gris" mean "gray."


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On 5/17/12 5:51 PM, James Silverton wrote:
I came across some Solena Pinot *Gris* (2010 Williamette) today. The
wine merchant agreed that it was just Pinot Grigio but said that the
vintner felt that "Pinot" was French and wanted to be consistent for
some reason. Well, we'll see what it is like.


Jim,
Pinot Gris is the French name for the grape known as Pinot Grigio in
Italy. In my experience, most Oregon wineries use the French name for
their wines.

Mark Lipton

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"Mark Lipton" wrote .......

Pinot Gris is the French name for the grape known as Pinot Grigio in
Italy. In my experience, most Oregon wineries use the French name
for their wines.



In NZ, Pinot Gris is the third most widely planted white variety.

In Australia, wines labelled Pinot Grigio are generally drier styles, while
P.Gris are a little sweeter.

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"Mike Tommasi" wrote.........

Forgive me if I am mistaken Michael, but I thought that Grauburgunder
was for dry wine and Rulšnder was for sweeter styles - No?

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On May 18, 2:17*am, "st.helier" wrote:
"Mark Lipton" *wrote .......



Pinot Gris is the French name for the grape known as Pinot Grigio in
Italy. *In my experience, most Oregon wineries use the French name
for their wines.


In NZ, Pinot Gris is the third most widely planted white variety.

In Australia, wines labelled Pinot Grigio are generally drier styles, while
P.Gris are a little sweeter.

st.helier


I did not realize this but thanks for the tip!
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On 5/18/2012 11:15 AM, Bi!! wrote:
On May 18, 2:17 am, wrote:
"Mark Lipton" wrote .......



Pinot Gris is the French name for the grape known as Pinot Grigio in
Italy. In my experience, most Oregon wineries use the French name
for their wines.


In NZ, Pinot Gris is the third most widely planted white variety.

In Australia, wines labelled Pinot Grigio are generally drier styles, while
P.Gris are a little sweeter.

st.helier


I did not realize this but thanks for the tip!


I'll have to see how the bottle of Oregon (Williamette Valley) Pinot
Gris turns out.

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On 5/17/2012 5:51 PM, James Silverton wrote:
I came across some Solena Pinot *Gris* (2010 Williamette) today. The
wine merchant agreed that it was just Pinot Grigio but said that the
vintner felt that "Pinot" was French and wanted to be consistent for
some reason. Well, we'll see what it is like.


Let me add some notes on Solena 2011 Pinot Gris (Willamette Valley). As
others have suggested it was rather more sweet than I am accustomed to
with Pinot Grigio but quite pleasantly acid and aromatic. It is made by
Laurent Montalieu and Danielle Andrus Montalieu whose names suggest
French ancestry or origin and the grapes appears not to have been grown
by the proprietors but "selected from Oregon vineyards".

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On Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:29:33 PM UTC-7, Mark Lipton wrote:
On 5/17/12 5:51 PM, James Silverton wrote:
I came across some Solena Pinot *Gris* (2010 Williamette) today. The
wine merchant agreed that it was just Pinot Grigio but said that the
vintner felt that "Pinot" was French and wanted to be consistent for
some reason. Well, we'll see what it is like.


Jim,
Pinot Gris is the French name for the grape known as Pinot Grigio in
Italy. In my experience, most Oregon wineries use the French name for
their wines.

Mark Lipton

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Correct, Oregon Pinot Gris. In fact, until the past year or so, Pinot Grigio was not allowed for the designation of that variety in Oregon. By what authority it was disallowed, and why, I don't know; perhaps simply by agreement within the state's wine industry.

Andy


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