Greetings,

I'm new to the group. I have a keen interest in Spanish wines,
particularly cabs. Does anyone have any experiences with these,
especially from the Penedes region.

thks

On Sep 20, 10:06 am, Kamakazee > wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm new to the group. I have a keen interest in Spanish wines,
> particularly cabs. Does anyone have any experiences with these,
> especially from the Penedes region.
>
> thks

Jean Leon has been making these for a long time in the Penedes. I
recently had the 1994 Riserva and it was delicious.

Mark

On Sep 20, 10:05 am, Tire-Bouchon > wrote:
> On Sep 20, 10:06 am, Kamakazee > wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
>
> > I'm new to the group. I have a keen interest in Spanish wines,
> > particularly cabs. Does anyone have any experiences with these,
> > especially from the Penedes region.
>
> > thks
>
> Jean Leon has been making these for a long time in the Penedes. I
> recently had the 1994 Riserva and it was delicious.
>
> Mark

What do you think about Torres? Toilet water?

Kamakazee skrev i
dette:

> What do you think about Torres? Toilet water?

Torres has more or less all qualities in stock - but AFAIR no toilet water
nor flush water ;-)


regards.
Jan

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Kamakazee wrote:

> What do you think about Torres? Toilet water?

The Torres Black Label (now Mas la Plana) was fantastic in the late
'70s. I had several wonderful bottles of the '78 and '79 back in the
mid-'80s. My impression is that more recent Mas la Plana wines have
been less impressive, for whatever reason, but still decent examples of
Cabernet Sauvignon.

Mark Lipton



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On Sep 20, 10:53 am, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Kamakazee wrote:
> > What do you think about Torres? Toilet water?
>
> The Torres Black Label (now Mas la Plana) was fantastic in the late
> '70s. I had several wonderful bottles of the '78 and '79 back in the
> mid-'80s. My impression is that more recent Mas la Plana wines have
> been less impressive, for whatever reason, but still decent examples of
> Cabernet Sauvignon.
>
> Mark Lipton
>
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Are Spanish wines your speciality? Or are you just generally
knowledgeable?

Take a look at www.grimau.com and let me know if you've tried any of
this Catalyn wine.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:53:37 -0400
Mark Lipton > wrote:

> Kamakazee wrote:
>
> > What do you think about Torres? Toilet water?
>
> The Torres Black Label (now Mas la Plana) was fantastic in the late
> '70s. I had several wonderful bottles of the '78 and '79 back in the
> mid-'80s. My impression is that more recent Mas la Plana wines have
> been less impressive, for whatever reason, but still decent examples of
> Cabernet Sauvignon.
>

They were good even into the 90s, I've got a friend who liked them a lot
and sometimes served. Haven't had one in a long time.

As it happens we drank a Sangre de Torro (I think that's the spelling)
a couple of nights ago, it was nothing special but had good fruit and
decent balance. Correct for 3.50 EU.

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Emery Davis > wrote in news:20070920185648.000011a2
@loki.domain.org:
>>
>> > What do you think about Torres? Toilet water?
>>
>> The Torres Black Label (now Mas la Plana) was fantastic in the late
>> '70s. I had several wonderful bottles of the '78 and '79 back in the
>> mid-'80s. My impression is that more recent Mas la Plana wines have
>> been less impressive, for whatever reason, but still decent examples of
>> Cabernet Sauvignon.

Torres Mas La Plana continues to be a good wine and probably one of the
best qpr of the Torres lineup. The 2000 is really, really good. But,
somehow, it is not a fancy wine in Spain.

>
> As it happens we drank a Sangre de Torro (I think that's the spelling)
> a couple of nights ago, it was nothing special but had good fruit and
> decent balance. Correct for 3.50 EU.

Sangre de Toro is not Cabernet Sauvignon (I really do not understand a
preference for Spain AND Cabernet Sauvignon, since most of Spanish red wine
is Tempranillo and Grenache) but Grenache and Cariñena (called Mazuelo by
Torres, but it is just another name of Cariñena). It is a nice inexpensive
wine that I enjoy.

I am trying to think of good Cabs from Spain but it is tough. Some good
ones come from Torres as Mas La Plana, Marqués de Griñón made an
interesting one from his vineyard in Malpica de Tajo and some wines from
Somontano (in Huesca) like Enate Reserva.

Best,

S.

santiago wrote:

> Torres Mas La Plana continues to be a good wine and probably one of the
> best qpr of the Torres lineup. The 2000 is really, really good. But,
> somehow, it is not a fancy wine in Spain.
>
>
>>As it happens we drank a Sangre de Torro (I think that's the spelling)
>>a couple of nights ago, it was nothing special but had good fruit and
>>decent balance. Correct for 3.50 EU.
>
>
> Sangre de Toro is not Cabernet Sauvignon (I really do not understand a
> preference for Spain AND Cabernet Sauvignon, since most of Spanish red wine
> is Tempranillo and Grenache) but Grenache and Cariñena (called Mazuelo by
> Torres, but it is just another name of Cariñena). It is a nice inexpensive
> wine that I enjoy.

Sangre de Toro (with the obligatory plastic bull around the neck) was
one of our "house wines" during graduate school, with an occasional
splurge to Torres's Gran Sangre de Toro when we felt particularly
wealthy. IIRC, it was then (ca. '86) about $4 US for the Sangre de
Toro. Now I see it for closer to $10 and it's not the same bargain.
Still, though, it's a decent example of a Garnacha/Carniñena blend, as
you say.


Mark Lipton
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On Sep 20, 8:48 pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> santiago wrote:
> > Torres Mas La Plana continues to be a good wine and probably one of the
> > best qpr of the Torres lineup. The 2000 is really, really good. But,
> > somehow, it is not a fancy wine in Spain.
>
> >>As it happens we drank a Sangre de Torro (I think that's the spelling)
> >>a couple of nights ago, it was nothing special but had good fruit and
> >>decent balance. Correct for 3.50 EU.
>
> > Sangre de Toro is not Cabernet Sauvignon (I really do not understand a
> > preference for Spain AND Cabernet Sauvignon, since most of Spanish red wine
> > is Tempranillo and Grenache) but Grenache and Cariñena (called Mazuelo by
> > Torres, but it is just another name of Cariñena). It is a nice inexpensive
> > wine that I enjoy.
>
> Sangre de Toro (with the obligatory plastic bull around the neck) was
> one of our "house wines" during graduate school, with an occasional
> splurge to Torres's Gran Sangre de Toro when we felt particularly
> wealthy. IIRC, it was then (ca. '86) about $4 US for the Sangre de
> Toro. Now I see it for closer to $10 and it's not the same bargain.
> Still, though, it's a decent example of a Garnacha/Carniñena blend, as
> you say.
>
> Mark Lipton
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Yeah, I agree and it's a pretty good match to paella. You can still
get it for around $6 at some spots here in Dallas.

Am 26.09.2007 um 12:43 wurde geantwortet auf:
Kamakazee > schrieb:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm new to the group. I have a keen interest in Spanish wines,
> particularly cabs. Does anyone have any experiences with these,
> especially from the Penedes region.
>
> thks
>
hello.
i like the can bonastre cabernet sauvignon crianza 2002 unfiltered. very good wine.
best wishes

On Sep 26, 5:44 am, wrote:
> Am 26.09.2007 um 12:43 wurde geantwortet auf:
> Kamakazee > schrieb:> Greetings,
>
> > I'm new to the group. I have a keen interest in Spanish wines,
> > particularly cabs. Does anyone have any experiences with these,
> > especially from the Penedes region.
>
> > thks
>
> hello.
> i like the can bonastre cabernet sauvignon crianza 2002 unfiltered. very good wine.
> best wishes

Thanks, I'll look for it.