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Subway Veggie Burger Nutrition Information.
"Dave" > wrote in message oups.com... > > rick wrote: >> "Dave" > wrote in message >> oups.com... >> > >> > rick wrote: >> > [snip] >> >> >> How do I know? because I know the farmer that is >> >> >> raising >> >> >> them. >> >> >> I can drive by and see them in the fields anytime I >> >> >> like. >> >> >> I >> >> >> know >> >> >> how he raises them. >> >> >> Not really. Organic does not mean pesticide free dave. >> >> > >> >> > No but organic standards do impose restrictions on the >> >> > range >> >> > of chemicals that may be used and also on the >> >> > circumstances >> >> > under which they may be used. Also just because organic >> >> > does >> >> > not >> >> > mean *cide free and you don't know any farms who grow >> >> > *cide free veggies does not mean *cide free veggies do >> >> > not >> >> > exist. >> >> ==================== >> >> I can assure you they are more rare than grass-fed beef and >> >> free-range eggs. >> > >> > Sure, you can get grass fed beef in my country, although a >> > portion >> > of this is almost certainly hay and sileage since our >> > climate >> > is not >> > really warm enough for high quality, fresh grass, year >> > round. >> > Also >> > there is no such thing as a grass fed label. You can not >> > walk >> > down >> > the meat aisle of any supermarket I am aware of and purchase >> > beef labelled as grass-fed. You have to purchase direct from >> > the farm. >> > I don't believe they are any easier to get hold of than >> > *cide >> > free >> > veggies. >> > >> >> Organic pesticides are not less toxic, and have fewer >> >> restrictions on them than synthetic ones. >> > >> > Who told you that? >> >> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pu...oxic_Tools.pdf > > That site certainly provides food for thought although it is > worth > noting that, like most sources including many that I quote, the > CGFI does have an agenda. The claims made against organic > agriculture are worth looking into. In the meanwhile here is > another > quote, admittedly from a source with a very strong agenda. > > "The use of these pesticides is not widespread and they > are only applied to a narrow range of crops, mainly top > fruit and potatoes. Almost all other organic arable farming > in the UK has no need, and no possibility, of using pesticides. > No herbicides are permitted. They are used in small > quantities on Soil Association farms and accounted for > 0.4 per cent of total UK pesticide in 2003." > http://www.soilassociation.org/web/sa/saweb.nsf/848d689047cb466780256a6b00298980/ff83a83e9c9e75ea80256e3600609101!OpenDocument > > It occured to me that this statistic was meaningless without > reference to the per cent total of UK crop production that > organic production accounted for so I did a quick google and > found an article on the BBC website that said less than 3 > per cent of agricultural production in the UK was organic. > The implication is that at least in the UK organic uses less > pesticides on average. It seems reasonable to suppose > that the organic movement is tainted by a prejudice against > the synthetic but my current impression remains favourable > overall, pending further research. > |
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