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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:33:38 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>"Reynard" > wrote >> >> The Moving Finger writes; > >Yawn, same old tactics eh Derek? > >Nobody believes that changing one's position on something makes you a liar >or a hypocrite. In his quotes below he states that he dislikes flesh, so how does learning from one's mistakes, as he claims, suddenly change his tastes for food items? He also states that he believes the consumption of meat, dairy and eggs are bad for him, animals, his environment, and the whole World, but he sings a different tune now he's become a meat pusher, so how did learning from his mistakes do that? <restore> "I dislike flesh, though my reasons for being vegan are overwhelmingly health-oriented: I want to live a long, healthy life, and I think the consumption of meat, dairy, and eggs is bad for me, animals, my environment, and the whole world. Is that first part selfish? Perhaps to some people. Do the other, more selfless consequences of my diet (no animal must die for my nourishment or enjoyment, less pollution and less harm to the environment, etc.) mitigate the selfish notion of wanting to live long and without serious health problems associated with an animal-based diet?" usual suspect Date: 2002-09-09 and "Veganism costs less regardless of socio-economic environs. Indeed, lesser well-off people are far more likely to subsist on vegetarian diets; meat and dairy are a product of 'advanced' society. It costs more to produce dairy, beef, poultry, pork than grains, vegetables, legumes; indeed, you must first raise the latter to fatten the former. Skip the former entirely and you have much more of the latter to feed the world." usual suspect Date: 2002-12-26 Those quotes belie his current pusher's position, and no amount of regret will ever undo the hypocrisy of it. The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it. Omar Khayyam |
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