I'm new to the group so... apologies if this Q has been A'd before...

I've read a half dozen articles, etc., re the Care & Feeding of starter.
About two thirds of my info absolutely forbids using anything METAL to
either store or mix the starter. The other articles either don't mention the
issue, or actually say it's OK to use stainless steel bowls and wire whisks
to do the jobs.

Could anyone point me to accurate, scientific info to settle the debate?

Thank you.

Richard from Canada!
(all the natural organisms where I live are now frozen solid!)

"RAE" > wrote in message =
news:gDFHb.853882$6C4.282644@pd7tw1no...

> About two thirds of my info absolutely forbids using anything METAL to
> either store or mix the starter. The other articles either don't =
mention the
> issue, or actually say it's OK to use stainless steel bowls and wire =
whisks
> to do the jobs.

> Could anyone point me to accurate, scientific info to settle the =
debate?

Good quality stainless steel is quite safe, for implements and =
containers.
On the other hand, Teflon, used for cooking, can emit toxic fumes* and=20
diffuse certain compounds into foods which are demonstrable in our=20
bodies by sensitive assays, and whose long-term health effects are=20
unknown.

--=20
Dick Adams
<firstname> dot <lastname>at bigfoot dot com

Richard, stainless steel bowls and utensils are ok.
Ernie

"RAE" > wrote in message
news:gDFHb.853882$6C4.282644@pd7tw1no...
> I'm new to the group so... apologies if this Q has been A'd
before...
>
> I've read a half dozen articles, etc., re the Care & Feeding of
starter.
> About two thirds of my info absolutely forbids using anything
METAL to
> either store or mix the starter. The other articles either
don't mention the
> issue, or actually say it's OK to use stainless steel bowls and
wire whisks
> to do the jobs.
>
> Could anyone point me to accurate, scientific info to settle
the debate?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Richard from Canada!
> (all the natural organisms where I live are now frozen solid!)
>
>

RAE wrote:

>
> ...or actually say it's OK to use stainless steel bowls and wire whisks
> to do the jobs.
>
It is perfectly OK to use stainless steel bowls and stainless
steel wisks, spoons or other equipment to mix, raise, or hold
your sourdough dough for short periods of time. I would not
recommend any metal container for long term storage of anything
that is wet and acid.

Regards,

Charles

--
Charles Perry
Reply to:

** A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand **

Its OK to use utensils to stir and measure out the starter, but I
wouldn't store it in metal.

Personally, I've got a 32oz. mayo jar that I cleaned up and store my
starter in that, covering the opening with a plastic sandwich bag, fixed
with a rubber band.

Robert

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RAE wrote:

> I'm new to the group so... apologies if this Q has been A'd before...
>
> I've read a half dozen articles, etc., re the Care & Feeding of starter.
> About two thirds of my info absolutely forbids using anything METAL to
> either store or mix the starter. The other articles either don't mention the
> issue, or actually say it's OK to use stainless steel bowls and wire whisks
> to do the jobs.
>
> Could anyone point me to accurate, scientific info to settle the debate?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Richard from Canada!
> (all the natural organisms where I live are now frozen solid!)
>
>

Robert Marshall wrote:

> Personally, I've got a 32oz. mayo jar that I cleaned up and store my
> starter in that, covering the opening with a plastic sandwich bag, fixed
> with a rubber band.

Oh, my.

In the '80s, the government of the then-USSR cracked down on vodka sales
by imposing stiff taxes. People took to brewing their own, and I
understand it was a common sight to see such setups in apartment windows
everywhere.

Only no sandwich bags--they used rubber gloves and it was called the
"Gorbachev Wave."

B/

I like the sound of that, and wouldn't need the rubber band!! Time to
head off to Safeway for a pair of rubber gloves :-)

Robert

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Brian Mailman wrote:

> Robert Marshall wrote:
>
>
>>Personally, I've got a 32oz. mayo jar that I cleaned up and store my
>>starter in that, covering the opening with a plastic sandwich bag, fixed
>>with a rubber band.
>
>
> Oh, my.
>
> In the '80s, the government of the then-USSR cracked down on vodka sales
> by imposing stiff taxes. People took to brewing their own, and I
> understand it was a common sight to see such setups in apartment windows
> everywhere.
>
> Only no sandwich bags--they used rubber gloves and it was called the
> "Gorbachev Wave."
>
> B/

Whatever does the trick, but I question his idea that fermentation locks
are a lot more expensive than condoms. Locks are about $2.00 each and
last forever. Condoms obviously don't last nearly as long.

Robert

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RAE wrote:

> I have a friend who makes his own wine... has a whole row of big glass
> fermentation jugs, each proudly sporting an "enflatulated" condom straight
> up from it's neck. He says it's a lot cheaper than buying those bubble
> things they sell at the wine store. He said he just pricks the end and
> voila! - the wine does the rest! Sounds familiar.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> "Robert Marshall" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I like the sound of that, and wouldn't need the rubber band!! Time to
>>head off to Safeway for a pair of rubber gloves :-)
>>
>>Robert
>>
>>---------------------
>>
>>Brian Mailman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Robert Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Personally, I've got a 32oz. mayo jar that I cleaned up and store my
>>>>starter in that, covering the opening with a plastic sandwich bag, fixed
>>>>with a rubber band.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, my.
>>>
>>>In the '80s, the government of the then-USSR cracked down on vodka sales
>>>by imposing stiff taxes. People took to brewing their own, and I
>>>understand it was a common sight to see such setups in apartment windows
>>>everywhere.
>>>
>>>Only no sandwich bags--they used rubber gloves and it was called the
>>>"Gorbachev Wave."
>>>
>>>B/
>
>
>

I have a friend who makes his own wine... has a whole row of big glass
fermentation jugs, each proudly sporting an "enflatulated" condom straight
up from it's neck. He says it's a lot cheaper than buying those bubble
things they sell at the wine store. He said he just pricks the end and
voila! - the wine does the rest! Sounds familiar.

Richard



"Robert Marshall" > wrote in message
...
> I like the sound of that, and wouldn't need the rubber band!! Time to
> head off to Safeway for a pair of rubber gloves :-)
>
> Robert
>
> ---------------------
>
> Brian Mailman wrote:
>
> > Robert Marshall wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Personally, I've got a 32oz. mayo jar that I cleaned up and store my
> >>starter in that, covering the opening with a plastic sandwich bag, fixed
> >>with a rubber band.
> >
> >
> > Oh, my.
> >
> > In the '80s, the government of the then-USSR cracked down on vodka sales
> > by imposing stiff taxes. People took to brewing their own, and I
> > understand it was a common sight to see such setups in apartment windows
> > everywhere.
> >
> > Only no sandwich bags--they used rubber gloves and it was called the
> > "Gorbachev Wave."
> >
> > B/