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Old 03-10-2003, 02:39 AM
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In my youth there was a late night horror known as Twiggies Pie Cart.
You could order a number of exotic dishes to stimulate the palate you
could specify that 'hotters' were added. The pies were all at least a
day old. If you made the mistake of dining there (for, at that time
of night everything else was closed) you learned, early in life,
quite what the combination of a bad hangover and heart burn felt
like.


An unforgettable experience was the pie cart in the centre of Adelaide.
After an evening on the beer, one went there and had a 'pie floater'.
This consists of a particularly obnoxious meat pie 'floating' in a
thinnish pea soup. Tomato sauce (ketchup) is, of course, compulsory.

I'm not sure whether the pie cart is still there. Perhaps a South
Australian contributor can tell us.

I think that it must have been owned by Twiggie's brother!


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Old 03-10-2003, 02:40 AM
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"Robert Bannister" wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
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Following up to Peter H.M. Brooks


Tio Pepe is very nice, though these days, being in Cape Town, I usually

have

South African sherries, which are very good indeed.

Sherry comes from Jerez. South Africa should think up their own
designation for their fortified wines.


Indeed. No doubt some day the Yanks will be forced to think up some
different name for the gnat's **** that they call 'Budweiser'.

Presumably you are as shocked when you come accross cheese claiming to

be
cheddar that doesn't come from Cheddar.


Only when it's orange. Don't the French or the Belgians call it 'chester'?

Cheshire cheese is a different matter - it should only come from Cheshire.


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Old 03-10-2003, 09:37 AM
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Following up to Javi

Same as me, though I use other brands. Extra virgin, expensive, is good for
dressings; refined, cheaper


I would use other brands if I could get them cheaper. Because of
mark ups in specialist shops, 3 litre cans of oil are more
expensive than bottled Carbonell extra virgin in supermarkets. As
Waitrose do Carbonell ordinary grade in 3 L, that's the one I
use.
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Old 03-10-2003, 09:37 AM
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Following up to Matti Lamprhey

I see Peter Brooks got here before me, but I was going to say that it
probably depends on the degree to which the olive oil has been processed
or refined; other oils show a wide range of smoke point from 160C to
232C depending on the degree of refinement. Consequently the extra
virgin olive oils that people now buy for the taste will be at the
bottom of this range; the processed ones which are now out of fashion
will probably have a 200C+ smoke point.


This seems to make sense and for once taste, cost and smoke point
all come together to give cost effective results for all uses.
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Old 03-10-2003, 09:37 AM
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Following up to Peter H.M. Brooks

Knowing the true source isn't protectionism, agreed, that can be on the
label. Insisting that a generally understood generic name (cheddar, sherry,
port, etc.) is legally only attached to one place is.


Its probably too far down the line to change but I would love the
cheddar producers to act like French producers, with almost every
village having its own named cheese. The cheddar situation just
reflects UK/US/Canada etc lack of respect for what they do.

Sherry.
Manzanilla comes from Sanlucar de Barrameda, the grapes grow on
chalk in the salty sea air. The soleras mature in the sea air for
generations. It can come from nowhere else! Nobody else has the
terroir. Let anyone produce thiier local drink or food, but dont
let them demean themselves by labelling it with the name of
somewhere elses product.

Is it that you like the idea of third world farmers starving?


What has political non alignment got to do with it?
But no, I always buy vietnamese champagne, chinese beef and
african whisky. I strongly believe the developing countries
should be given a helping hand by being allowed to forge
developed world products.

If you believe that then you can't, at the same time,


You forgot to switch on your irony alarm.

support the protectionism that would insist that whisky comes from Scotland (whiskey, of
course can come from Ireland,


true

Yankland or Outer Mongolia)


Bourbon is bourbon. Mongolia is free to market that fermented yak
butter drink.

Beef comes from cattle, the location isn't important.


Why was the Scots reputation for quality free range grass fed
beef damaged by the BSE problem? Think about it.

If you are not convinced, buy a piece of average lamb and buy a
piece of free range Herdwicke wether grown on the Lake District
Fells.
We are what we eat, so is our food.

Indeed. This is another protectionist measure, trade marking.


you confuse free trade with fraud.

The ethos of generic food production is one of "passing off" and
lowest common denominator food production. Let each producer
stand by his own reputation gained by his own hard work.
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Following up to Peter H.M. Brooks

Only when it's orange. Don't the French or the Belgians call it 'chester'?

Cheshire cheese is a different matter - it should only come from Cheshire.


So you are a troll. Given that your irony alarm is off today, or
is it set to "send only"?
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Old 03-10-2003, 10:18 AM
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"Reidİ" wrote in message
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Following up to Peter H.M. Brooks
Indeed. This is another protectionist measure, trade marking.


you confuse free trade with fraud.

The ethos of generic food production is one of "passing off" and
lowest common denominator food production. Let each producer
stand by his own reputation gained by his own hard work.

I agree that passing off is quite wrong. However, when you buy a lump of
cheddar, you will see on the label where it was made so there is no
confusion, just as with South African sherry.


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Old 03-10-2003, 03:34 PM
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"mUs1Ka" wrote

Maybe it's just me but 'cup' and 'full' have the same 'u' sound /


I knew somebody was going to say that. I was going to go into a further
description of the cup sound, but in the end, I couldn't be arsed.
m.


Oh. Is this another North/South thing?

Jaqy


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Old 03-10-2003, 06:35 PM
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:34:52 +0100, "MC_Emily"
wrote:

"mUs1Ka" wrote

Maybe it's just me but 'cup' and 'full' have the same 'u' sound /


I knew somebody was going to say that. I was going to go into a further
description of the cup sound, but in the end, I couldn't be arsed.
m.


Oh. Is this another North/South thing?

I believe so. Where I was brought up (Cumbria) we make one vowel do
for "cup", "full" and "love".

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Old 03-10-2003, 08:52 PM
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"Don Aitken" wrote

Oh. Is this another North/South thing?


I believe so. Where I was brought up (Cumbria) we make one vowel do
for "cup", "full" and "love".


Yeah, me too (Blackpool born and bred).

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Old 04-10-2003, 12:16 AM
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
"Robert Bannister" wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:

"Reidİ" wrote in message
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Following up to Peter H.M. Brooks



Tio Pepe is very nice, though these days, being in Cape Town,
I usually

have


South African sherries, which are very good indeed.

Sherry comes from Jerez. South Africa should think up their own
designation for their fortified wines.


Indeed. No doubt some day the Yanks will be forced to think up
some different name for the gnat's **** that they call
'Budweiser'.

Presumably you are as shocked when you come accross cheese
claiming to


be

cheddar that doesn't come from Cheddar.


Only when it's orange. Don't the French or the Belgians call it
'chester'?


Cheshire cheese is a different matter - it should only come from
Cheshire.


I know what Cheshire is like, but that's not what I was asking. When I
did my first exchange with a French speaking boy to Belgium, I was
offered something that sounded like 'shestair' and which looked and
tasted like Cheddar.


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Old 04-10-2003, 05:44 AM
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"Robert Bannister" wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
"Robert Bannister" wrote in message
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Cheshire cheese is a different matter - it should only come from
Cheshire.


I know what Cheshire is like, but that's not what I was asking. When I
did my first exchange with a French speaking boy to Belgium, I was
offered something that sounded like 'shestair' and which looked and
tasted like Cheddar.

Pity you didn't get the lad to write it down with his Aunty's pen.


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Old 04-10-2003, 10:45 AM
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Following up to Robert Bannister

I know what Cheshire is like, but that's not what I was asking. When I
did my first exchange with a French speaking boy to Belgium, I was
offered something that sounded like 'shestair' and which looked and
tasted like Cheddar.


"Chester" references came up a few weeks ago, I don't think we
got to the bottom of it, it was re a food fest in Italy IIRC.
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Following up to Reidİ

Cheshire cheese is a different matter - it should only come from Cheshire.


So you are a troll.


I take that as a "yes" then.
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Old 05-10-2003, 05:24 AM
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"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote:

. Beef comes from cattle, the location
isn't important.


This I beg to differ, location has a lot to do with it.

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