Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
eight
days:



The hurricane only hit black families' property.


New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by the
hurricane.


Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.


New Orleans has no white people.


The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
resident.


When you are hungry after a hurricane, steal a big screen TV.


The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New Orleans:
now
the city is welfare, looters and gang-free and they are in your city.


White folks don't make good news stories.


Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
instead
bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.


Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
efforts.


Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you and
give you money for being stupid.


I feel so sorry for all those black folks. The only way it could have
been worse was to be white.

On Sat 24 Sep 2005 03:24:05p, itsjoannotjoann wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
> eight
> days:
>
>
>
> The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>
>
> New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by the
> hurricane.
>
>
> Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
>
>
> New Orleans has no white people.
>
>
> The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> resident.
>
>
> When you are hungry after a hurricane, steal a big screen TV.
>
>
> The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New Orleans:
> now
> the city is welfare, looters and gang-free and they are in your city.
>
>
> White folks don't make good news stories.
>
>
> Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> instead
> bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
>
>
> Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> efforts.
>
>
> Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you and
> give you money for being stupid.
>
>
> I feel so sorry for all those black folks. The only way it could have
> been worse was to be white.

You must have been watching the same channel I did!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
__________________________________________________ ___

If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport.

On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:

A lot of stupid, racist crap.


modom

In article >,
modom > wrote:

> On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > wrote:
>
> A lot of stupid, racist crap.


There's some truth to what you post, and some truth to the fact that the
presentation of the post was not kind. But it's also true that most of
the coverage that I saw involved black people. Who's racism is that, if
any?

Of course, where I live, we don't have weather (California). That's
good and that's bad. I happen to like it. I went camping last week,
and slept in my preferred bed clothing (nothing). It was in the mid
forties in the morning, but quickly warmed up.

Although we don't have weather here, we do have the occasional
earthquake. One thing about the OP that struck a chord was that
according to media reports, Katrina only hit NO, no where else. We had
the great San Francisco earthquake of '89 here. Except that it hit
almost 100 miles SOUTH of SF. The media people didn't want to go down
there, because of some sort of problems down there, like maybe an
earthquake or something. Accommodations and food were much better in
SF, and there weren't all those wrecked buildings and impassible roads
and such. Still, the media people suffered severe shortages and
hardships. White stretch limos had to be brought in from as far away as
Salt Lake City!

modom wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > wrote:
>
> A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>
>
> modom

But, unfortunately, that seems to be the way the TV nets carried it.
Blame them.


jim

modom wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > wrote:
>
> A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>
>
> modom


Yes it is racist crap. But it's also a fair summary of most of the news
reports from Hurricane Katrina.

Apparently black people suffering in New Orleans makes better television
than more balanced reporting -- perhaps because somehow it was all
Dubya's fault. And if it wasn't really his fault, maybe we can make it
his fault if we spin it right.

Contrast it with the coverage with of Hurricane Rita.

Best regards,
Bob

P.S. How did we get from "Katrina" to "Rita" in just 3 weeks? I
thought tropical storm names ran alphabetically.

JimLane wrote:
> modom wrote:
> > On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > A lot of stupid, racist crap.
> >
> >
> > modom
>
> But, unfortunately, that seems to be the way the TV nets carried it.
> Blame them.


Not racist at all. NOLA and much of the gulf coast is composed of a
huge black population, primarilly impoverished, that's a truth. Some
can't abide with truth, especially when it doesn't compute with their
personal/subjective views of political correctness. What would yoose
prefer, whitewashing. I watch the news too, the same news as everyone
else... the thing speaks for itself (res ipsa loquitor)... picture
worth thousand woids. And I have a $10,000 big screen SONY with all
the bells and whistles, it's color is adjusted poifectly... and I
didn't loot it. I don't know about how you determine truth but I call
a spade a spade.

Sheldon Confucious

Bob wrote:

"P.S. How did we get from "Katrina" to "Rita" in just 3 weeks? I
thought tropical storm names ran alphabetically."
========================
Hurricanes 2005

1. Arlene
2. Bret
3. Cindy
4. Dennis
5. Emily
6. Franklin
7. Gert
8. Harvey
9. Irene
10. Jose
11. Katrina
12. Lee
13. Maria
14. Nate
15. Ophelia
16. Philippe
17. Rita
18. Stan
19. Tammy
20. Vince
21. Wilma

Nancree

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:12:28 -0500, modom > wrote:

>On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:
>
>A lot of stupid, racist crap.

I guess you're one of the brilliant analysts who consider _Huckleberry
Finn_ racist?

Any racism in that post is reflected from the media coverage.

(try thinking next time, instead of hitting yourself in the jaw when
your knee jerks)

--
-denny-

"I don't like it when a whole state starts
acting like a marital aid."
"John R. Campbell" in a Usenet post.

modom wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > wrote:
>
> A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>
>
> modom

Yep. And I hate that shit.

-L.

JimLane wrote:
> modom wrote:
> > On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > A lot of stupid, racist crap.
> >
> >
> > modom
>
> But, unfortunately, that seems to be the way the TV nets carried it.
> Blame them.
>
>
> jim

Oh, you think "The only way it could have
been worse was to be white. " isn't worth blame? The OP is a ****ing
asshole.

And what about the news media showing black "looters" vs white
"finders"? Talk about racist crap!

-L.

nancree wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
> "P.S. How did we get from "Katrina" to "Rita" in just 3 weeks? I
> thought tropical storm names ran alphabetically."

Not all hurricanes are reported, or develop into storms that approach
the US. Lee through Phillipe didn't make the news.

-L.

modom wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > wrote:
>
> A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>
>
> modom


Thanks. I was trying to formulate a reply and you did
it for me and quite well.

gloria p

On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:

>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
>eight
>days:
>
>
>
>The hurricane only hit black families' property.

my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.

where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
forte...

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:05:17 GMT, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> modom > wrote:
>
>> On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>
>There's some truth to what you post, and some truth to the fact that the
>presentation of the post was not kind. But it's also true that most of
>the coverage that I saw involved black people. Who's racism is that, if
>any?

Indeed. America's racist structure, our pernicious failure to address
the production of a ready-made class of storm victims was laid bare
for the world to see in the aftermath of Katrina. That's precisely
why the schadenfreude evident in the OP was inexcusable. And hiding
behind an alleged media critique is a ****ant alibi. And not only
because it's not an accurate account of the reporting from NOLA,
Gulfport, Mobile, and St. Bernard Parish that I personally read, heard
and watched. Black and white, we are Americans, and that means
something to me at least. We have a responsibility to comfort and aid
those among us who are in need. We have a compact with each other
that includes recognizing the dignity of others. Since the flooding
of that poor, once beautiful city, I have absolutely no tolerance for
racism. It has to stop with us. Now.


modom

Ward wrote:

>>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
>>eight days:
>>
>>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>
> my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
>
> where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
> forte...


Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.

NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Ward wrote:
>
> >>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
> >>eight days:
> >>
> >>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
> >
> > my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
> >
> > where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
> > forte...
>
>
> Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
> she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
>
> NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?
>
> Bob


It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
the whole time about how dare I post this. You got your news from the
same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.

No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
always the truth and how dare I challenge it.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:13:08 -0700, Denny Wheeler
> wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:12:28 -0500, modom > wrote:
>
>>On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:
>>
>>A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>
>I guess you're one of the brilliant analysts who consider _Huckleberry
>Finn_ racist?

No.
>
>Any racism in that post is reflected from the media coverage.

No.

The post contained this statement:
"Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
efforts."

That is racially divisive and a lie. As I already said in another
post, hiding behind an ill conceived attempt at a media critique is a
****ant alibi. That the post addressed race at all reflects a bias
about what is normal in America. The norm in NOLA ain't white.
Furthermore I personally saw pictures of white kids on TV during the
weekend attempt to reunite families and locate missing kids.

And this one:
"Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you and
give you money for being stupid."

That is not accurate and racist. CNN reported that 38% of those who
stayed behind couldn't leave because they were either disabled or
caring for a disabled person who couldn't leave. Poverty and simply
not having a car accounted for large percentages of others who did not
flee the storm.

And this one:
"The hurricane only hit black families' property."

That is not accurate and racist. Anybody atending to the coverage of
the disaster saw plenty of stories about property damage among white
communities, many of them heart-wrenching.

>(try thinking next time, instead of hitting yourself in the jaw when
>your knee jerks)

Thanks for the advice. You might try reading it out loud to yourself.


modom

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Ward wrote:
>
> >>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
> >>eight days:
> >>
> >>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
> >
> > my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
> >
> > where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
> > forte...
>
>
> Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
> she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
>
> NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?

Obviously not many have watched SNL.

satire
noun

1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or
scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice
or folly
synonym see WIT
---

Sheldon

On Sat 24 Sep 2005 07:20:33p, itsjoannotjoann wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> Ward wrote:
>>
>> >>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
>> >>eight days:
>> >>
>> >>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>> >
>> > my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
>> >
>> > where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
>> > forte...
>>
>>
>> Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty
>> sure she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
>>
>> NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
> what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
> all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
> Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
> But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
> thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
> out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
> the whole time about how dare I post this. You got your news from the
> same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.
>
> No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
> always the truth and how dare I challenge it.
>

I tried to just stay out of the fray, but I totally understood what you
wrote and totally agree with it.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
__________________________________________________ ___

If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport.

-L. wrote:
> JimLane wrote:
>
>>modom wrote:
>>
>>>On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>>>
>>>
>>>modom
>>
>>But, unfortunately, that seems to be the way the TV nets carried it.
>>Blame them.
>>
>>
>>jim
>
>
> Oh, you think "The only way it could have
> been worse was to be white. " isn't worth blame? The OP is a ****ing
> asshole.
>
> And what about the news media showing black "looters" vs white
> "finders"? Talk about racist crap!
>
> -L.
>

Right over your head. Did not say that at all. I said that was the way
the news reported it, so if it seems that way, blame them. There were
certainly others besides blacks who were hung out to dry. There was
certainly significant damage elsewhere, but the news maintained their
focus on the poor blacks in NOLA. Statement of fact.

Unfortunately, balance in the news went its way with the 1968 Democratic
Convention. That is when the news media began making the news themselves
by their mere presence and by the way they present the story.

I've seen demonstrations where a total of 20 people have turned out, but
because the cause was sympathetic, the news has done their best to
conceal the numbers and make it look far larger than it was. Once you
have seen the same person with the same sign three times in the same
story, it should sink in.


jim

Sheldon wrote:
> JimLane wrote:
>
>>modom wrote:
>>
>>>On 24 Sep 2005 15:24:05 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>A lot of stupid, racist crap.
>>>
>>>
>>>modom
>>
>>But, unfortunately, that seems to be the way the TV nets carried it.
>>Blame them.
>
>
>
> Not racist at all. NOLA and much of the gulf coast is composed of a
> huge black population, primarilly impoverished, that's a truth. Some
> can't abide with truth, especially when it doesn't compute with their
> personal/subjective views of political correctness. What would yoose
> prefer, whitewashing. I watch the news too, the same news as everyone
> else... the thing speaks for itself (res ipsa loquitor)... picture
> worth thousand woids. And I have a $10,000 big screen SONY with all
> the bells and whistles, it's color is adjusted poifectly... and I
> didn't loot it. I don't know about how you determine truth but I call
> a spade a spade.
>
> Sheldon Confucious
>

I am not naive enough to believe that the news media reports anything
with any degree of balance, sheldon. If you do, then you are a pollyanna.


jim

itsdumbestmother****ernotjoann wrote:
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> > Ward wrote:
> >
> > >>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
> > >>eight days:
> > >>
> > >>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
> > >
> > > my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
> > >
> > > where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
> > > forte...
> >
> >
> > Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
> > she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
> >
> > NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?
> >
> > Bob
>
>
> It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
> what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
> all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
> Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
> But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
> thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
> out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
> the whole time about how dare I post this. You got your news from the
> same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.
>
> No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
> always the truth and how dare I challenge it.

You posted that (something you obviously stole off the net) and now
posting this makes you the dumbest mother****er rfc has ever seen. Get
the **** out of here, IMBECILE!

Sheldon

On 24 Sep 2005 19:20:33 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> wrote:

>
>Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> Ward wrote:
>>
>> >>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
>> >>eight days:
>> >>
>> >>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>> >
>> > my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
>> >
>> > where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
>> > forte...
>>
>>
>> Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
>> she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
>>
>> NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?
>>
>> Bob
>
>
>It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
>what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
>all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
>Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
>But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
>thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
>out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
>the whole time about how dare I post this. You got your news from the
>same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.
>

I neither sputtered nor screamed.

However, you've got yourself a heck of an epistemological problem
here. Asserting that news coverage is biased presumes you have a more
objective understanding than the news sources you pretend to critique.
You assume you have knowledge beyond what is reported in asserting
there is bias. What is the source of this knowledge? It can be had
either first hand or via reporting. If the reporting is wrong, then
where does your information come from? Do voices tell you the news?

A smug declaration that your ethnicity and your point of view is more
normal or objective than that which you find irritating is hardly a
media critique. And the presumption that so many Black faces in the
coverage of this disaster constitutes bias is itself racist. The only
apparent bias here is yours.


modom

JimLane wrote:

> I am not naive enough to believe that the news media reports anything
> with any degree of balance, sheldon. If you do, then you are a pollyanna.
>


So pray tell where do *you* get your nooze...???

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 03:31:16 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:

>
>JimLane wrote:
>
>> I am not naive enough to believe that the news media reports anything
>> with any degree of balance, sheldon. If you do, then you are a pollyanna.
>>
>
>
>So pray tell where do *you* get your nooze...???

It's the little voices, I tell you, the voices.


modom

Sheldon wrote:
> itsdumbestmother****ernotjoann wrote:

> >
> > No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
> > always the truth and how dare I challenge it.
>
> You posted that (something you obviously stole off the net) and now
> posting this makes you the dumbest mother****er rfc has ever seen. Get
> the **** out of here, IMBECILE!
>
> Sheldon


Man, oh man, you flop around from one side to the other like a goldfish
out of his bowl. Amusing.

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> JimLane wrote:
>
>
>>I am not naive enough to believe that the news media reports anything
>>with any degree of balance, sheldon. If you do, then you are a pollyanna.
>>
>
>
>
> So pray tell where do *you* get your nooze...???
>


From hither, thither and yon. Remember, if you agree with the news you
hear, they are writing to your viewpoint left or right; if you disagree
then it is to someone else's. The truth usually lies somewhere between.

Remember that proverbial grain of salt? Try the whole box of Morton's
with media.


jim

modom wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 03:31:16 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>JimLane wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am not naive enough to believe that the news media reports anything
>>>with any degree of balance, sheldon. If you do, then you are a pollyanna.
>>>
>>
>>
>>So pray tell where do *you* get your nooze...???
>
>
> It's the little voices, I tell you, the voices.
>
>
> modom


SHHHHHH! Remember, children should be seen and not heard giving away
secrets!


jim
;->
(btw, modom, my new spell checker tries to make you into Sodom. hmmmm.)

Sheldon wrote:
> itsdumbestmother****ernotjoann wrote:
>
>>Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>
>>>Ward wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
>>>>>eight days:
>>>>>
>>>>>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>>>>
>>>>my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
>>>>
>>>>where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
>>>>forte...
>>>
>>>
>>>Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
>>>she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
>>>
>>>NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?
>>>
>>>Bob
>>
>>
>>It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
>>what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
>>all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
>>Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
>>But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
>>thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
>>out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
>>the whole time about how dare I post this. You got your news from the
>>same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.
>>
>>No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
>>always the truth and how dare I challenge it.
>
>
> You posted that (something you obviously stole off the net) and now
> posting this makes you the dumbest mother****er rfc has ever seen. Get
> the **** out of here, IMBECILE!
>
> Sheldon
>


Off your meds again, shellie?


jim

modom wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2005 19:20:33 -0700, "itsjoannotjoann"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>
>>>Ward wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
>>>>>eight days:
>>>>>
>>>>>The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>>>>
>>>>my goodness...you are the MOST misinformed person on this planet.
>>>>
>>>>where have you been sleeping...since consciousness has not been your
>>>>forte...
>>>
>>>
>>>Joan's point was clearly that the media coverage was biased. I'm pretty sure
>>>she doesn't believe any of the points she posted.
>>>
>>>NOW do you understand? Or is cognition not your forte?
>>>
>>>Bob
>>
>>
>>It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
>>what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
>>all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
>>Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
>>But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
>>thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
>>out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
>>the whole time about how dare I post this. You got your news from the
>>same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.
>>
>
>
> I neither sputtered nor screamed.
>
> However, you've got yourself a heck of an epistemological problem
> here. Asserting that news coverage is biased presumes you have a more
> objective understanding than the news sources you pretend to critique.
> You assume you have knowledge beyond what is reported in asserting
> there is bias. What is the source of this knowledge? It can be had
> either first hand or via reporting. If the reporting is wrong, then
> where does your information come from? Do voices tell you the news?
>
> A smug declaration that your ethnicity and your point of view is more
> normal or objective than that which you find irritating is hardly a
> media critique. And the presumption that so many Black faces in the
> coverage of this disaster constitutes bias is itself racist. The only
> apparent bias here is yours.
>
>
> modom

I guess the coverage of the 1968 Democratic Convention was before your
time, because if it wasn't, you would have your answer. There have been
studies done from the right and the left on news bias - each saying the
very same media is biased the opposite way.

For something in your own time frame, you can take the supposedly "No
Spin Zone" and look at it critically. IF you do, you would realize that
it is spinning so rapidly, that were you not one of its crowd, it would
spin you right out into space. Who needs a rocket booster? No one, just
try landing on the no spin zone.


jim

I think the OP was trying to make a point about the failure of the
American News Media to deliver accurate and un-biased reporting.

I don't think you can believe one-tenth of one percent of what you hear
on the nightly news. I think that was the point that he was trying to
make.

chula

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> It certainly is nice to see that SOME of you can read this post for
> what it is. The biased reporting of our fine, wonderful, and most of
> all truthful news networks. As far they were concerned Mississippi and
> Alabama are somewhere around North Dakota and not very news worthy.
> But some of you gave the always familiar kneejerk. To those, I say
> thanks, I knew I could depend on you to come in with your well thought
> out comments about me being a ****ing asshole, sputtering and screaming
> the whole time about how dare I post this.

Any time you make blatant remarks like "the only way it could be worse
is if they were white" or whatever the **** it was, yeah, I'm going to
call you a ****ing asshole. Don't say shit like that, even in jest,
unless you want to be marked for one.

>You got your news from the
> same networks we all did but you couldn't see how slanted it was.

Pssst...here's a clue: Some of us don't watch the mainstream news.
Because some of us know what schlop it really is.

>
> No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
> always the truth and how dare I challenge it.

What was your point, really? That black people are getting more
coverage than whites? Seems to me every news link I clicked during the
first 48 hours of Katrina showed white folk in distress. In fact, I
don't remember seeing hardly a black face. Until, of course, the
"shooting and looting" started. Then covering black people in NO was
ok.

If you think the media is biased against white people, you are
completely ****ed in the head. Nothing I can say will ever change your
mind, blinded by the "white" as you are.


-L.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat 24 Sep 2005 03:24:05p, itsjoannotjoann wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
> > eight
> > days:
> >
> >
> >
> > The hurricane only hit black families' property.
> >
> >
> > New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by the
> > hurricane.
> >
> >
> > Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
> >
> >
> > New Orleans has no white people.
> >
> >
> > The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> > resident.
> >
> >
> > When you are hungry after a hurricane, steal a big screen TV.
> >
> >
> > The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New Orleans:
> > now
> > the city is welfare, looters and gang-free and they are in your city.
> >
> >
> > White folks don't make good news stories.
> >
> >
> > Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> > instead
> > bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
> >
> >
> > Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> > efforts.
> >
> >
> > Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you and
> > give you money for being stupid.
> >
> >
> > I feel so sorry for all those black folks. The only way it could have
> > been worse was to be white.
>
> You must have been watching the same channel I did!
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*
> __________________________________________________ ___
>
> If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport.

Me, too. Funny, my white cousin was lost for a few weeks, then found in
Mississippi in a church. My white cousins have no home and are living in a
hotel with no clothing or any material goods. Where's their $2,000 cash
cards? Where's their relief effort?

kili

In article .com>, -L.
> wrote:

> nancree wrote:
> > Bob wrote:
> >
> > "P.S. How did we get from "Katrina" to "Rita" in just 3 weeks? I
> > thought tropical storm names ran alphabetically."
>
> Not all hurricanes are reported, or develop into storms that approach
> the US. Lee through Phillipe didn't make the news.
>
> -L.
>
Well that's obviously one more indication of the TV News media's bias.
I'm sure those demagogues of unbiased reporting are furious with the
media for not covering all hurricanes equally.

In article >, modom
> wrote:

> However, you've got yourself a heck of an epistemological problem
> here. Asserting that news coverage is biased presumes you have a more
> objective understanding than the news sources you pretend to critique.
> You assume you have knowledge beyond what is reported in asserting
> there is bias. What is the source of this knowledge? It can be had
> either first hand or via reporting. If the reporting is wrong, then
> where does your information come from? Do voices tell you the news?
>
> A smug declaration that your ethnicity and your point of view is more
> normal or objective than that which you find irritating is hardly a
> media critique. And the presumption that so many Black faces in the
> coverage of this disaster constitutes bias is itself racist. The only
> apparent bias here is yours.
>
>
> modom

I think I understand what you are saying and I agree. Neither you nor
I would want to send an unbiased person to the grocery store to select
a cantaloupe. We would want to send someone with a similiar melon-bias
to our own.

I believe it was that melon-head Spiro Agnew who first brought
epistemology into the pubic arena for erudite discussion. But I don't
remember ever hearing any.

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > itsdumbestmother****ernotjoann wrote:
>
> > >
> > > No Bob, recognition is not their forte. What is reported on tv is
> > > always the truth and how dare I challenge it.
> >
> > You posted that (something you obviously stole off the net) and now
> > posting this makes you the dumbest mother****er rfc has ever seen. Get
> > the **** out of here, IMBECILE!
> >
> > Sheldon
>
>
> Man, oh man, you flop around from one side to the other like a goldfish
> out of his bowl. Amusing.

You posted what to normal brained people is obviously "spoof" (someone
elses), and you, the ****ing imbecile that you are, actually take it
literally. Like I said, you are the dumbest mother****er to ever grace
this newsgroup. Wait-a-minute, it's a webtv imbecile, figures.

Sheldon

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> Things I have learned from watching the news on TV during the last
> eight
> days:
>
> The hurricane only hit black families' property.
>
> New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by the
> hurricane.
>
> Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
>
> New Orleans has no white people.
>
> The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> resident.
>
> When you are hungry after a hurricane, steal a big screen TV.
>
> The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New Orleans:
> now
> the city is welfare, looters and gang-free and they are in your city.
>
> White folks don't make good news stories.
>
> Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> instead
> bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
>
> Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> efforts.
>
> Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you and
> give you money for being stupid.
>
> I feel so sorry for all those black folks. The only way it could have
> been worse was to be white.


Interesting because the news I saw from international sources (TVE, RAI
CNN Espanol, CNN international. Canal Vasco, Galicia TV) showed plenty
of white folks, both rich and poor who had suffered losses.

SD

kr_gentner wrote:

> The storms don't make the 5 O'clock news unless they threaten land.
> They do make the weather news though.


It's no wonder. Better check yer clock!

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

"-L." > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> nancree wrote:
>> Bob wrote:
>>
>> "P.S. How did we get from "Katrina" to "Rita" in just 3 weeks? I
>> thought tropical storm names ran alphabetically."
>
> Not all hurricanes are reported, or develop into storms that approach
> the US. Lee through Phillipe didn't make the news.
>
> -L.
>

Storms are named when they become tropical storms. Not all tropical storms
develop into hurricanes. There were several of the storms between Katrina
and Rita that went north in the Atlantic and never threatened land. Ophelia
came close to hitting North Carolina but just skirted along the coast and
went out in to the Atlantic.

The storms don't make the 5 O'clock news unless they threaten land. They do
make the weather news though.

There are still over 2 months in hurricane season and only 4 names left.
They'll start over with the Greek alphabet.

Kathy