"~patches~" > wrote in message
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> -L. wrote:
>
>> Roberta wrote:
>>
>>>Out of curiousity (and totally serious not sarcastic) what is a
>>>Vegan
>>>lifestyle? I thought vegan a definition of a type of diet.
>>>
>>>Roberta (in VA)
>>
>>
>> Conscious choice not to use fur, leather, wool, silk, beeswax, etc.
>>
>> -L.
>>
> To play devil's advocate here, how can using beeswax possibly be more
> harmful than using petroleum based candles (paraffin, soy)? It's not
> like you are kill bees to use the beeswax. I use only beeswax candles
> and I will tell you the harvesting of beeswax does not harm the bees
> and it is a far superior product than any of those petroleum based
> products that do hurt the environment. Unlike petroleum based
> candles, beeswax actually is reptuted to help clean the air. I guess
> tallow could be used but the smell of animal fats burning is not that
> pleasant to me. Second, I find it difficult to see what the harm is by
> ingesting honey. I use honey almost exclusively and I buy it from a
> very environmentally friendly beekeeper. If a recipe calls for white
> sugar, I use honey. The harvesting of honey is far less damaging to
> the environment than that of white sugar. The hives work in unison
> with the environment unlike the harvesting of white sugar. For those
> of you who don't know white sugar comes from two sources: cane and
> beet. The harvesting of either affects the environment. Honey is
> better for your body since your body can digest is better than white
> sugar. A good beekeeper protects his hives to ensure an ongoing
> supply of honey without ever harming the hive. I'd like to hear the
> argument against using honey and/or beeswax.

You won't get an argument from me)

Ariane Jenkins wrote:
> On 30 Aug 2005 19:06:12 -0700, Jude > wrote:
> [snip]
> > Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
> > it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
> >
> > I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
> >
> > All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
> > pizza.
>
> One of our favorite meals is just to take ahi tuna filets, marinate it
> in soy sauce and wasabi (can do this overnight) then sear quickly in a cast
> iron skillet. We eat it with plain steamed rice and steamed broccoli. The
> rice should fit in your time limit if you start it as soon as you get home,
> and everything else has a short cooking--an extra bonus in hot weather when
> you don't want the oven going. Other ideas, assuming you're not wanting all
> casseroles:
>

If you are not determined to make casseroles - I use my grill pan to
cook big portobello mushrooms whole and then serve them on hamburger
buns. You could also grill squash or eggplant slices and serve them
the same way. Quick and easy.

If you are determined to make casseroles - make them over the weekend
or the night before. Quiche is easy to make ahead of time and tastes
good when served cold. I assume that you eat dairy.

Susan B.

ps to everyone else: Are you getting points for "outing" her as a true
vegetarian? It's sounding like the Spanish Inquisition out there. For
all you know, she picks the tuna out of her casserole. What possible
difference does it make to you?

Sorry about plugging my own site, but at least it's on topic:

http://www.foodieview.com/search.jsp... ick_and_easy

Howie

"-L." > wrote in message
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>
> Roberta wrote:
>> Out of curiousity (and totally serious not sarcastic) what is a Vegan
>> lifestyle? I thought vegan a definition of a type of diet.
>>
>> Roberta (in VA)
>
> Conscious choice not to use fur, leather, wool, silk, beeswax, etc.
>
> -L.

I've heard about fur and leather. (I don't buy fur, but sometimes leather.)
But wool? Is this because of the sheep getting cold? I've been in China
and seem them thar' worms in the silk factory. What's this about not to use
silk? Beeswax, how does this hurt the bees?

I think Vegans and PETA have taken a hit, because of some of the things that
others can't understand, and possibly that is the reason that people react
so strongly to the word, "vegetarian" and "vegan." One has to be prepared
for this reaction if one claims to be a vegan/vegetarian. I came to the
realization a number of years ago that some people react to the word,
"artist" almost as strongly. I suppose I react to people with nobs on their
tongues and rings in their noses and have my own prejudices about tattoes.
Dee Dee

On Thu 01 Sep 2005 09:45:25p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "-L." > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> Roberta wrote:
>>> Out of curiousity (and totally serious not sarcastic) what is a Vegan
>>> lifestyle? I thought vegan a definition of a type of diet.
>>>
>>> Roberta (in VA)
>>
>> Conscious choice not to use fur, leather, wool, silk, beeswax, etc.
>>
>> -L.
>
> I've heard about fur and leather. (I don't buy fur, but sometimes
> leather.) But wool? Is this because of the sheep getting cold? I've
> been in China and seem them thar' worms in the silk factory. What's this
> about not to use silk? Beeswax, how does this hurt the bees?
>
> I think Vegans and PETA have taken a hit, because of some of the things
> that others can't understand, and possibly that is the reason that
> people react so strongly to the word, "vegetarian" and "vegan." One has
> to be prepared for this reaction if one claims to be a vegan/vegetarian.
> I came to the realization a number of years ago that some people react
> to the word, "artist" almost as strongly. I suppose I react to people
> with nobs on their tongues and rings in their noses and have my own
> prejudices about tattoes. Dee Dee

Uh-oh... I'm in trouble!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Thu 01 Sep 2005 09:45:25p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "-L." > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>>
>>> Roberta wrote:
>>>> Out of curiousity (and totally serious not sarcastic) what is a Vegan
>>>> lifestyle? I thought vegan a definition of a type of diet.
>>>>
>>>> Roberta (in VA)
>>>
>>> Conscious choice not to use fur, leather, wool, silk, beeswax, etc.
>>>
>>> -L.
>>
>> I've heard about fur and leather. (I don't buy fur, but sometimes
>> leather.) But wool? Is this because of the sheep getting cold? I've
>> been in China and seem them thar' worms in the silk factory. What's this
>> about not to use silk? Beeswax, how does this hurt the bees?
>>
>> I think Vegans and PETA have taken a hit, because of some of the things
>> that others can't understand, and possibly that is the reason that
>> people react so strongly to the word, "vegetarian" and "vegan." One has
>> to be prepared for this reaction if one claims to be a vegan/vegetarian.
>> I came to the realization a number of years ago that some people react
>> to the word, "artist" almost as strongly. I suppose I react to people
>> with nobs on their tongues and rings in their noses and have my own
>> prejudices about tattoes. Dee Dee
>
> Uh-oh... I'm in trouble!
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

Tattooes, tongue knobs, rings in nose?
Well -- which is it?
My f-i-l (80 this month) about fell on the floor when I said a few weeks ago
that I wouldn't mind if my DH had a pony tail. But f-i-l has a tattoe.
I've never scorned him for it. He's scorned me for being an artist.
Nobs and nose rings, no. Tattoes, well ----
Are you still in trouble?
Dee Dee

On Thu 01 Sep 2005 11:07:26p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu 01 Sep 2005 09:45:25p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> "-L." > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Roberta wrote:
>>>>> Out of curiousity (and totally serious not sarcastic) what is a
>>>>> Vegan lifestyle? I thought vegan a definition of a type of diet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberta (in VA)
>>>>
>>>> Conscious choice not to use fur, leather, wool, silk, beeswax, etc.
>>>>
>>>> -L.
>>>
>>> I've heard about fur and leather. (I don't buy fur, but sometimes
>>> leather.) But wool? Is this because of the sheep getting cold? I've
>>> been in China and seem them thar' worms in the silk factory. What's
>>> this about not to use silk? Beeswax, how does this hurt the bees?
>>>
>>> I think Vegans and PETA have taken a hit, because of some of the
>>> things that others can't understand, and possibly that is the reason
>>> that people react so strongly to the word, "vegetarian" and "vegan."
>>> One has to be prepared for this reaction if one claims to be a
>>> vegan/vegetarian.
>>> I came to the realization a number of years ago that some people
>>> react
>>> to the word, "artist" almost as strongly. I suppose I react to people
>>> with nobs on their tongues and rings in their noses and have my own
>>> prejudices about tattoes. Dee Dee
>>
>> Uh-oh... I'm in trouble!
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright *¿*
>
> Tattooes, tongue knobs, rings in nose?
> Well -- which is it?
> My f-i-l (80 this month) about fell on the floor when I said a few weeks
> ago that I wouldn't mind if my DH had a pony tail. But f-i-l has a
> tattoe. I've never scorned him for it. He's scorned me for being an
> artist. Nobs and nose rings, no. Tattoes, well ----
> Are you still in trouble?
> Dee Dee

hehehe! Not any more. Tattooed at 48 during mid-life crisis. :-)

Some of my best friends have been artists.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.