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OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
crowded.

So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.

I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.

Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.

I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?

All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
pizza.

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Jude wrote:

> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>
> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>
> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>
> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
> pizza.


I can do even better: Seek out _20-Minute Menus_, by Marian Burros. It's
VERY good, and you can find it used:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/off...151205-9679822

Bob


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I was vegetarian for six anna half years, and I practically lived on the
following (my carnivorous friends also were mad for the stuff):

Amarantha's Mountain of Nachos

for cooking:
a couple of onions
a couple of eggplants, or one really big one
a few zucchini
half a dozen large yellow chillies
as many hot chillies as you like
a large bag of mushrooms
one or two tomatoes

for layering:
corn chips
salsa
sour cream
grated cheese

Heat some oil in a large pot. Chop and add vegetable ingredients in the
order listed above, stirring with each addition. The eggplant especially
should be chopped fairly thinly (half a centimetre/quarter inch slices)
and may need more oil added with it. Once the tomatoes have been added
to the pot it's pretty much ready - a horrible-looking grey muck that
smells and tastes great. Get a plate, add a layer of corn chips, a few
big serving spoons of vegies, a layer of salsa, a layer of sour cream and
lots of cheese. Eat with fork and fingers.

Warning: this dish is deceptively large. I've had friends use a bread
and butter plate so as not to get too much and even then, when they'd
finished layering, they were alarmed at the amount of food they'd ended
up with >

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"Jude" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
> crowded.
>
> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>
> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>
> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>
> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>
> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
> pizza.


Waldorf Salad; Tuna Casserole -- that sounds like a lot of work to me for
someone who works.
Think along the lines of picking up some cleaned salad, bread that has some
substance to it or tortillas, etc.; fresh fruit(s), cheese(s), package of
prepared multiple veggies fresh for serving raw or cooking; canned beans
which you can make your own by addition of ingredients you like; any kinds
of grains that will cook in 30 minutes, some milk or juice, canned or dried
soups which you can add some fresh ingredients to make it your own, a little
ice cream for dessert.
HTH
Dee Dee



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"Jude" > wrote in message
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> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I
> can
> make for dinner really easily when we get home.

....
> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>


Here are a couple ideas.....hope you like 'em!!

Pseudo-BBQ Tofu Sanwiches
This is pretty quick and easy. You really do have to start with a block
of frozen and then thawed tofu. It's the only thing I make with tofu;
I'm not really a tofu person. But this is good:
a.. 1 (12 ounce) package extra firm tofu (frozen and then thawed)
b.. 3 tablespoons vegetable oil
c.. 1 onion, thinly sliced
d.. 1 1/2 cups bottled BBQ sauce (more or less to taste)
e.. 6 hamburger buns
Heat half the oil in skillet, add onions and saute. Meanwhile, press
the block of tofu between paper towels until most of the water comes
out. Slice the tofu into 1/4 to 1/3 inch thick slices. Press the
slices one last time w/ paper towels. When onions are translucent, move
them to the edge of the skillet. Add the rest of the oil, turn up the
heat a little, and add the tofu slices. Fry until golden brown on both
sides.

Add the BBQ sauce, turn the heat to low, and let cook for ten minutes.
Let everything get nice and saucey, then pile onto hamburger buns and
eat.

***

Oven-roasted veggie fajitas

Chop up some onions, peppers, zucchini, whatever you like (can do this
the night before), while you preheat oven to 450F. Toss veggeis w/
olive oil, sprinkle w/ S&P. Spread on a baking sheet. Roast for 15-20
minutes. Heat up some tortillas in the microwave (20 seconds, between
moist paper towels). Pile veggies onto tortillas, add salsa, cheese,
sour cream. Roll up and eat.

***

Black bean/sweet potato burritos

Heat oven to 400 F. Cook a couple of sweet potatoes (you can nuke them,
though they taste better baked, or else peeled and roasted as a do-ahead
step). Peel and mash. Drain and rinse a can of black beans. Mash them
up with enough salsa to moisten. Spray a casserole dish w/ cooking
spray. On a work surface, lay out a corn tortilla. Spread with some
mashed sweet potato and some mashed beans. Roll up and lay seam side
down in casserole dish. Repeat with more tortillas (2-3-4 per
person??). Sprinkle rolled up burritos with some shredded cheddar.
Bake ~20 minutes, until hot and crispy. (You can use flour tortillas,
but they're not as good, IMO). Serve w/ sour cream on the side.
***
Portobellos and Peppers over Angel Hair Pasta. : Heat up a pot of
salted water to boiling (for the angel hair pasta). Slice up a few
portobello mushrooms and a couple of red peppers. Saute peppers in
oliveoil for a few minutes; add a bit more oil and mushrooms, and cook
til they soften. Now's the time to add the pasta to the water. Add a
couple tablespoons of balsamic vinegar to the veggies and cook,
stirring, until veggies are glazed. Season to taste w/ S&P (not too
much salt, though). Serve over hot, drained pasta. Sprinkle w/
parmesan cheese at the table. Leftovers are good warmed up and wrapped
in a tortilla w/ some feta cheese.

Chris




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Jude wrote:
> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
> crowded.
>
> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>
> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow.


Then you are not a vegetarian. I suppose you eat chicken, too...

-L.
(shaking head)

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"-L." > wrote in message
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>
> Jude wrote:
>> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>> crowded.
>>
>> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>
>> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow.

>
> Then you are not a vegetarian. I suppose you eat chicken, too...
>
> -L.
> (shaking head)


Perhaps she just doesn't eat red meat.
I forgot to suggest eggs. Eggs are a great stand-in for many quick meal
protein -- omelets, deviled eggs, fritattas, etc.
Dee Dee


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Dee Randall wrote:
> Perhaps she just doesn't eat red meat.


Then she isn't a vegetarian.

-L.

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"-L." > wrote in message
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> Dee Randall wrote:
>> Perhaps she just doesn't eat red meat.

>
> Then she isn't a vegetarian.
>
> -L.


In my heart I am <grin>.
And in my own habits, if left to myself, I wouldn't have any meat -- but gee
whiz and by golly, I love my cheese!
Dee Dee


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Dee Randall wrote:
> "-L." > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > Dee Randall wrote:
> >> Perhaps she just doesn't eat red meat.

> >
> > Then she isn't a vegetarian.
> >
> > -L.

>
> In my heart I am <grin>.
> And in my own habits, if left to myself, I wouldn't have any meat -- but gee
> whiz and by golly, I love my cheese!
> Dee Dee


I am in the same boat. I started eating meat again simply because I
got too tired of cooking separate entrees, and my doc said I probably
should eat "lower" carb in order to help me get pregnant. Never got
pregnant, and never stopped eatimg meat either. I don't eat much - a
bite here and there - and usually only turkey or chicken. But I am
certainly not a vegetarian any longer.

I did ok as a vegan but ate too many carbs. I don't like eggs all that
much anyway, but dang I missed the cheese. I still live a vegan
lifestyle (but not diet).

-L.



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Then you are not a vegetarian. =A0I suppose you eat chicken, too...

Are you a vegetarian? Have you ever tried to convinceyour mom and dad
that you can still come visit them and they don't have to cook "all
that weird stuff" especially for you?

Didn't think so. Sometimes it;s easier to eat fish for the convenience
of others than it is to be 100% pure vegetarian.

Do you live in a glass house, as well?

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Jude wrote:
> Then you are not a vegetarian. ?I suppose you eat chicken, too...
>
> Are you a vegetarian?


have been in the past. And vegan as well.

>Have you ever tried to convinceyour mom and dad
> that you can still come visit them and they don't have to cook "all
> that weird stuff" especially for you?


Since they're both dead I don't think either will be cooking anything
any time soon.

>
> Didn't think so. Sometimes it;s easier to eat fish for the convenience
> of others


Then you aren't vegetarian. Period.

>than it is to be 100% pure vegetarian.


There is no such thing. Either you are vegetarian or you aren't.
>
> Do you live in a glass house, as well?


Vegetarians by definitions don't eat animal flesh. Dem's the facts.
If you eat any animal flesh (including fish or chicken) you aren't a
vegetarian, you are an omnivore.

>From m-w.com

Main Entry: veg=B7e=B7tar=B7i=B7an=B7ism
Pronunciation: -E-&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
: the theory or practice of living on a diet made up of vegetables ,
fruits, grains, nuts, and sometimes eggs or dairy products

If you want to claim vegetarianism, don't eat meat of any kind.
Otherwise stop pretending you are one. It's insulting to people who
are.

-L.

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-L. wrote:

> Vegetarians by definitions don't eat animal flesh. Dem's the facts.
> If you eat any animal flesh (including fish or chicken) you aren't a
> vegetarian, you are an omnivore.
>
> >From m-w.com

> Main Entry: veg=B7e=B7tar=B7i=B7an=B7ism
> Pronunciation: -E-&-"ni-z&m
> Function: noun
> : the theory or practice of living on a diet made up of vegetables ,
> fruits, grains, nuts, and sometimes eggs or dairy products
>


Also from Meriam-webster.com
Main Entry: om=B7niv=B7o=B7rous
Pronunciation: =E4m-'niv-r&s, -'ni-v&-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin omnivorus, from omni- + -vorus -vorous
1 : feeding on both animal and vegetable substances

You think this is more accurate, seeing as how i do not feed on animal
substances? I;d say this is a far more inaccurate description of my
diet.

I tell you what. Next time I go visit my folks, I'll tell them not to
cook fish for dinner. Since I perfer to eat vegetarian the other 340 or
so days of the year, they can certainly work harder to accomodate my
lifestyle choices....no need to flex me dietary choices for anyone
else's convenience. Someone on the internet told me so.

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Jude wrote:
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> Also from Meriam-webster.com
> Main Entry: om=B7niv=B7o=B7rous
> Pronunciation: =E4m-'niv-r&s, -'ni-v&-
> Function: adjective
> Etymology: Latin omnivorus, from omni- + -vorus -vorous
> 1 : feeding on both animal and vegetable substances
>
> You think this is more accurate, seeing as how i do not feed on animal
> substances?


You do. You eat fish. Fish are animals.

> I;d say this is a far more inaccurate description of my
> diet.
>
> I tell you what. Next time I go visit my folks, I'll tell them not to
> cook fish for dinner. Since I perfer to eat vegetarian the other 340 or
> so days of the year, they can certainly work harder to accomodate my
> lifestyle choices....no need to flex me dietary choices for anyone
> else's convenience. Someone on the internet told me so.


Why do you insist on labeling yourself something you clearly are not?
Why is that so important to you - you evidently have no problem eating
the flesh of fish - why not own up to it? You're not a vegetarian if
you eat even a molecule of animal flesh. Sorry, you're simply NOT a
vegetarian, and it's just ludicrous to keep insisting you are when you
clearly - by definition - are not.

-L.

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On 30 Aug 2005 19:06:12 -0700, "Jude" > wrote:

>simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.


How old is your daughter? Can she help out at all?

--
Siobhan Perricone
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God wrote the rocks
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On 30 Aug 2005 19:06:12 -0700, "Jude" > wrote:

>So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.



My wife is Catholic, so I get to find new recipes for fridays every
year. Here is one that we make throughout the year though:

South-of-the-Border-Pie
Better Homes & Gardens 11th Edition

1/2c. chopped onion (1 medium)
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 Tbsp. olive oil
1 to 2 tsp. chili powder
1 tsp. ground cumin
1/4 tsp. salt
1 15 oz. can red kidney beans, rinsed and drained
1 1/2c. cooked brown rice (I use minute rice instead)
1 c. shredded cheddar cheese (4 oz.)
3/4 c. milk
2 beaten eggs

1. In a saucepan cook onion and garlic in hot oil till tender but not
brown. Stir in chili powder, cumin and salt. Cook 1 minute more, cool.
Stir in beans, cooked rice, cheese, milk and eggs.

2. Spray a 10 inch pie plate or quiche dish with nonstick spray. Spoon
mixture into pie plate. Bake, uncovered, in a 350 F oven about 25
minutes or till center is set. Let stand 10 minutes. If desired,
sprinkle with sweet pepper and serve with salsa. Makes 6 main-dish
servings.

We ususally melt a little extra cheese on top and serve with salsa and
sour cream.
---


"Foutain of youth? We have enough youth, what we need is a fountain of smart..." -seen on a bumper sticker
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"Jude" > wrote in message
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> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
> crowded.
>
> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>
> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>
> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>
> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>
> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
> pizza.
>


I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.


--
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On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>
>


They are semi-vegetarians.

1. Semi-Vegetarians
Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc). The
only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists would
say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have included
them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)

2. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarians
The most common type, ovo-lacto vegetarians do not eat any animals, but do
eat eggs and dairy products.
Subcategories:
* Ovo vegetarians (eat eggs but not dairy)
* Lacto vegetarians (eat dairy but not eggs)

3. Vegans
Vegans eat no animal products - no eggs, no dairy, no honey, etc.


4. Raw/Living Foodists
Raw or Living Foodists eat only raw food, because enzymes are destroyed by
normal cooking processes.

5. Fruitarians
Fruitarians eat only fruit, fruit-like vegetables (e.g., tomatoes,
cucumbers), and sometimes seeds and nuts.


--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>>
>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
>> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>
>>

>
> They are semi-vegetarians.
>


<snipped>

Sort of like being semi-pregnant or semi-dead, I reckon.

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On Wed 31 Aug 2005 09:06:23a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then
>>> talk about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> They are semi-vegetarians.
>>

>
> <snipped>
>
> Sort of like being semi-pregnant or semi-dead, I reckon.
>


Sort of. :-)

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
>> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>
>>

>
> They are semi-vegetarians.
>
> 1. Semi-Vegetarians
> Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc). The
> only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists would
> say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have included
> them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)
>
> 2. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarians
> The most common type, ovo-lacto vegetarians do not eat any animals, but do
> eat eggs and dairy products.
> Subcategories:
> * Ovo vegetarians (eat eggs but not dairy)
> * Lacto vegetarians (eat dairy but not eggs)
>
> 3. Vegans
> Vegans eat no animal products - no eggs, no dairy, no honey, etc.
>
>
> 4. Raw/Living Foodists
> Raw or Living Foodists eat only raw food, because enzymes are destroyed by
> normal cooking processes.
>
> 5. Fruitarians
> Fruitarians eat only fruit, fruit-like vegetables (e.g., tomatoes,
> cucumbers), and sometimes seeds and nuts.
>
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*


Hey, Wayne, we're both on the same wave length, looking up definitions --
I've not heard of the semi-vegetarians term. I guess I can't even say I'm a
semi-vegetarian. Does this mean that I'm not a kook after all? I guess
not, there are other things that probably qualify me.
Dee Dee


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On Wed 31 Aug 2005 09:12:01a, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then
>>> talk about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> They are semi-vegetarians.
>>
>> 1. Semi-Vegetarians
>> Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc).
>> The only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists
>> would say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have
>> included them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)
>>
>> 2. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarians
>> The most common type, ovo-lacto vegetarians do not eat any animals, but
>> do eat eggs and dairy products.
>> Subcategories:
>> * Ovo vegetarians (eat eggs but not dairy)
>> * Lacto vegetarians (eat dairy but not eggs)
>>
>> 3. Vegans
>> Vegans eat no animal products - no eggs, no dairy, no honey, etc.
>>
>>
>> 4. Raw/Living Foodists
>> Raw or Living Foodists eat only raw food, because enzymes are destroyed
>> by normal cooking processes.
>>
>> 5. Fruitarians
>> Fruitarians eat only fruit, fruit-like vegetables (e.g., tomatoes,
>> cucumbers), and sometimes seeds and nuts.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

>
> Hey, Wayne, we're both on the same wave length, looking up definitions
> -- I've not heard of the semi-vegetarians term. I guess I can't even
> say I'm a semi-vegetarian. Does this mean that I'm not a kook after
> all? I guess not, there are other things that probably qualify me.
> Dee Dee


hehehe! I can't think of anything that qualifies you as a kook. :-)

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"Dee Randall" > wrote in message
...
> Hey, Wayne, we're both on the same wave length, looking up
> definitions -- I've not heard of the semi-vegetarians term. I guess
> I can't even say I'm a semi-vegetarian. Does this mean that I'm not a
> kook after all? I guess not, there are other things that probably
> qualify me.


Don't you worry Dee Dee. You are a full member of the kook's club along
with us

O


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On Wed 31 Aug 2005 09:41:59a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hey, Wayne, we're both on the same wave length, looking up
>> definitions -- I've not heard of the semi-vegetarians term. I guess
>> I can't even say I'm a semi-vegetarian. Does this mean that I'm not a
>> kook after all? I guess not, there are other things that probably
>> qualify me.

>
> Don't you worry Dee Dee. You are a full member of the kook's club along
> with us
>
> O


Ophelia, are you a kook? I'd have never guessed! :-) Well, at least you're
no kookier than I am!

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
k...
>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hey, Wayne, we're both on the same wave length, looking up definitions --
>> I've not heard of the semi-vegetarians term. I guess I can't even say
>> I'm a semi-vegetarian. Does this mean that I'm not a kook after all? I
>> guess not, there are other things that probably qualify me.

>
> Don't you worry Dee Dee. You are a full member of the kook's club along
> with us
>
> O

Thanks, O. It means a lot coming from you - tee hee!
:-}
Dee Dee




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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> 5. Fruitarians
> Fruitarians eat only fruit, fruit-like vegetables (e.g., tomatoes,
> cucumbers), and sometimes seeds and nuts.
>


begin pedantic mode/
Tomatoes and cucumbers are not fruit-like vegetables. They are the
fruits of tomato and cucumber plants respectively. Further, seeds and
nuts are fruit as well. And to add a further layer of pedantry, all
fruit is vegetable.

Cam
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
> > about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
> >
> >

>
> They are semi-vegetarians.
>
> 1. Semi-Vegetarians
> Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc). The
> only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists would
> say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have included
> them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)


I don't believe semi-vegetarian exists. They are omnivores like
90-some percent of the rest of the population. I don't think the Veg
Society recognizes semi-vegetarianism.

-L.

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On Wed 31 Aug 2005 04:42:02p, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> >
>> > I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then
>> > talk about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> They are semi-vegetarians.
>>
>> 1. Semi-Vegetarians
>> Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc).
>> The
>> only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists
>> would say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have
>> included them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)

>
> I don't believe semi-vegetarian exists. They are omnivores like
> 90-some percent of the rest of the population. I don't think the Veg
> Society recognizes semi-vegetarianism.
>
> -L.


LOL! They seem to recognize themselves. :-) Personally, I think the
entire concept is a crock.

--
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unless there are three other people.
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 04:42:02p, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:47:12a, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then
>>> > talk about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> They are semi-vegetarians.
>>>
>>> 1. Semi-Vegetarians
>>> Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc).
>>> The
>>> only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists
>>> would say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have
>>> included them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)

>>
>> I don't believe semi-vegetarian exists. They are omnivores like
>> 90-some percent of the rest of the population. I don't think the Veg
>> Society recognizes semi-vegetarianism.
>>
>> -L.

>
> LOL! They seem to recognize themselves. :-) Personally, I think the
> entire concept is a crock.
>


Precisely. Doesn't omnivore mean "eats a combination of meat and
vegetables?" There's your term.


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
.com...
> "Jude" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>> crowded.
>>
>> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>
>> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
>> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
>> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
>> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
>> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>>
>> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
>> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>>
>> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>>
>> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
>> pizza.
>>

>
> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
>

Here is what I gathered, hoping it is correct:
Vegans: a strict vegetarian; someone who eats no animal or dairy products
at all.



Vegetarian: eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no meat
or fish or poultry.

The most common definition of vegetarianism, however, accepts the inclusion
of animal-based products such as honey, milk and other dairy products, as
well as eggs. This is more precisely called ovo-lacto vegetarianism.





Lacto Vegetarian:

A Lacto Vegetarian is someone who eats dairy products and plant-based foods
but not eggs.



Ovo Vegetarian:An Ovo Vegetarian is someone who eats eggs and plant-based
foods but no dairy products.



I don't know what one would call a person who ate no red meat, but ate
everything else.

That's almost me -- I 'hardly' eat red meat, 'hardly' eat pork, but I do;
but never would enter my mind to buy it or include it in any menu if it were
it not for DH.



Dee Dee












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"Dee Randall" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> .com...
>> "Jude" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>>> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>>> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>>> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>>> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>>> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>>> crowded.
>>>
>>> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>>> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>>> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>>> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>>> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>>> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>>> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>>> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>>
>>> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
>>> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
>>> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
>>> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
>>> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>>>
>>> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
>>> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>>>
>>> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>>>
>>> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
>>> pizza.
>>>

>>
>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
>> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>
>>


> Here is what I gathered, hoping it is correct:
> Vegans: a strict vegetarian; someone who eats no animal or dairy products
> at all.
>

I do not think that is correct. A vegan is not a "strict vegetarian," they
are a vegan. The idea of "strict vegetarian" versus "just plain vegetarian"
is silly. You either are or you are not.

>
> Vegetarian: eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no meat
> or fish or poultry.
>


My point exactly.

People seem to need a term to describe themselves. It's silly, really. If
you eat fish but not mammals or birds, that's fine, but there is no term to
describe you. Calling yourself (I mean "you" in the generic sense, not
personally) a vegetarian in that case is just plain dumb.


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
.com...
> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>> .com...
>>> "Jude" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>>>> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>>>> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>>>> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>>>> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>>>> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>>>> crowded.
>>>>
>>>> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>>>> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>>>> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>>>> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>>>> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>>>> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>>>> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>>>> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
>>>> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
>>>> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
>>>> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
>>>> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>>>>
>>>> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
>>>> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>>>>
>>>> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>>>>
>>>> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
>>>> pizza.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
>>> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>>
>>>

>
>> Here is what I gathered, hoping it is correct:
>> Vegans: a strict vegetarian; someone who eats no animal or dairy
>> products at all.
>>

> I do not think that is correct. A vegan is not a "strict vegetarian," they
> are a vegan. The idea of "strict vegetarian" versus "just plain
> vegetarian" is silly. You either are or you are not.
>
>>
>> Vegetarian: eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no
>> meat or fish or poultry.
>>

>
> My point exactly.
>
> People seem to need a term to describe themselves. It's silly, really. If
> you eat fish but not mammals or birds, that's fine, but there is no term
> to describe you. Calling yourself (I mean "you" in the generic sense, not
> personally) a vegetarian in that case is just plain dumb.


> Peter Aitken


Sometimes one does need to describe themselves to some people, one sentence,
"I'm a vegetarian." That would keep one from ever having to decline an
invite to "The Lone Star." They could roll their eyes, talk behind your
back, and that would be it, never having to explain yourself again why you
didn't want to go here or there, restaurant-wise. I've never had to listen
to "Why don't you have a steak, don't you want the prime rib...." for years.
Small price to pay for those few words. :-)
Dee Dee



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"Dee Randall" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> .com...
>> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>>> .com...
>>>> "Jude" > wrote in message
>>>> oups.com...
>>>>> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>>>>> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>>>>> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>>>>> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>>>>> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>>>>> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>>>>> crowded.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>>>>> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>>>>> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I
>>>>> can
>>>>> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>>>>> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>>>>> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time
>>>>> we
>>>>> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>>>>> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe
>>>>> but
>>>>> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
>>>>> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
>>>>> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
>>>>> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
>>>>> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>>>>>
>>>>> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
>>>>> pizza.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then
>>>> talk about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>> Here is what I gathered, hoping it is correct:
>>> Vegans: a strict vegetarian; someone who eats no animal or dairy
>>> products at all.
>>>

>> I do not think that is correct. A vegan is not a "strict vegetarian,"
>> they are a vegan. The idea of "strict vegetarian" versus "just plain
>> vegetarian" is silly. You either are or you are not.
>>
>>>
>>> Vegetarian: eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no
>>> meat or fish or poultry.
>>>

>>
>> My point exactly.
>>
>> People seem to need a term to describe themselves. It's silly, really. If
>> you eat fish but not mammals or birds, that's fine, but there is no term
>> to describe you. Calling yourself (I mean "you" in the generic sense, not
>> personally) a vegetarian in that case is just plain dumb.

>
>> Peter Aitken

>
> Sometimes one does need to describe themselves to some people, one
> sentence, "I'm a vegetarian." That would keep one from ever having to
> decline an invite to "The Lone Star." They could roll their eyes, talk
> behind your back, and that would be it, never having to explain yourself
> again why you didn't want to go here or there, restaurant-wise. I've
> never had to listen to "Why don't you have a steak, don't you want the
> prime rib...." for years. Small price to pay for those few words. :-)
> Dee Dee
>


How about "I don't eat red meat."

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Dee Randall wrote:

> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> .com...
>
>>"Dee Randall" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>"Jude" > wrote in message
legroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>>>>>summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>>>>>school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>>>>>of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>>>>>trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>>>>>the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>>>>>crowded.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>>>>>week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>>>>>on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>>>>>make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>>>>>ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>>>>>simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>>>>>get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>>>>>We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
>>>>>jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
>>>>>waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
>>>>>and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
>>>>>potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>>>>>
>>>>>Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
>>>>>it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>>>>>
>>>>>All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
>>>>>pizza.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
>>>>about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>>Here is what I gathered, hoping it is correct:
>>>Vegans: a strict vegetarian; someone who eats no animal or dairy
>>>products at all.
>>>

>>
>>I do not think that is correct. A vegan is not a "strict vegetarian," they
>>are a vegan. The idea of "strict vegetarian" versus "just plain
>>vegetarian" is silly. You either are or you are not.
>>
>>
>>>Vegetarian: eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no
>>>meat or fish or poultry.
>>>

>>
>>My point exactly.
>>
>>People seem to need a term to describe themselves. It's silly, really. If
>>you eat fish but not mammals or birds, that's fine, but there is no term
>>to describe you. Calling yourself (I mean "you" in the generic sense, not
>>personally) a vegetarian in that case is just plain dumb.

>
>
>>Peter Aitken

>
>
> Sometimes one does need to describe themselves to some people, one sentence,
> "I'm a vegetarian." That would keep one from ever having to decline an
> invite to "The Lone Star." They could roll their eyes, talk behind your
> back, and that would be it, never having to explain yourself again why you
> didn't want to go here or there, restaurant-wise. I've never had to listen
> to "Why don't you have a steak, don't you want the prime rib...." for years.
> Small price to pay for those few words. :-)
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

Dee Dee, I think you brought up a good point. If someone is aware
someone has diabetes they don't try to force heavy sugar foods on them.
I think it is the same for vegetarians or someone who is
semi-vegetarian. It's easier to just say that and get on with life
rather than get into a huge debate about why you do or why you don't eat
certain things. Some people are - I'm searching here for a term but
perhaps naive - when you tell them you don't eat certain things. For
example I don't eat or avoid a few things because of food allergies.
Invariably the number one response is *it's only a little bit, it won't
hurt you*. I'm also lactose intolerant and can't believe how many
people won't reveal there is milk or milk products in a dish. After
many very painful let's hit the washroom right this minute, I got smart
and take lactaid before eating anything I didn't prepare myself.
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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>> .com...
>>> "Jude" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>> OK, it's back to school season. No more luxuriating around enjoying
>>>> summer vacation - the kids come back next week. I'm gong to a new
>>>> school this year and inherited a classroom with 17 years accumulation
>>>> of JUNK. I've spent all of this week going through it and filling
>>>> trashcans with 1989's curriculum. Next thing I need to do is rearrange
>>>> the desks and bookshelves. She has a huge room feeling small and
>>>> crowded.
>>>>
>>>> So, anyways, I'm coming home absolutely exhausted every night. Next
>>>> week, when kids are back and I actually have to plan lessons and teach
>>>> on top of it, I'm gonna be wiped. I need some good ideas for what I can
>>>> make for dinner really easily when we get home. Toss together some
>>>> ingredients for a casserole, or a crockpot idea that I can leave
>>>> simmering all day long. I've got about 30 - 45 minutes from the time we
>>>> get home until I need to have dinner on the table for my daughter.
>>>> We're both vegetarian, but not opposed to fake meats or even seafood.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about a tuna casserole for tomorrow. My mom's recipe but
>>>> jazzed up: cooked rice, canned tuna, canned shrimp, celery,
>>>> waterchestnuts, cream of something soup from a can (I use asparagus),
>>>> and a little milk. Salt, pepper, celery salt. Topped with crushed up
>>>> potato chips. It goes well with a waldorf salad for crunch and cold.
>>>>
>>>> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
>>>> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>>>>
>>>> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>>>>
>>>> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
>>>> pizza.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am a bit puzzled - you ask for "dinners for vegetarians" and then talk
>>> about tuna casserole. Vegetarians do not eat fish.
>>>
>>>

>
>> Here is what I gathered, hoping it is correct:
>> Vegans: a strict vegetarian; someone who eats no animal or dairy
>> products at all.
>>

> I do not think that is correct. A vegan is not a "strict vegetarian," they
> are a vegan. The idea of "strict vegetarian" versus "just plain
> vegetarian" is silly. You either are or you are not.
>
>>
>> Vegetarian: eater of fruits and grains and nuts; someone who eats no
>> meat or fish or poultry.
>>

>
> My point exactly.
>
> People seem to need a term to describe themselves. It's silly, really. If
> you eat fish but not mammals or birds, that's fine, but there is no term
> to describe you. Calling yourself (I mean "you" in the generic sense, not
> personally) a vegetarian in that case is just plain dumb.


Such people are called pesco-vegetarians.




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My teenaged kids help out a lot now, but I used to do this crockpot
dish a lot when I knew I would be home late from work and we wanted
something hot for dinner. Add some store-bought wholewheat pita or naan
or tortillas and serve with a green salad(use the washed and packaged
greens to save even more time) to have a scrumptious meal.

1 cup dried garbanzo or kidney beans, washed and cleaned.
1 medium onion, diced
4 medium tomatoes, chopped
1 inch fresh ginger, minced or grated
1 fresh green chili pepper, minced(optional)
1 tsp cumin powder
1 stick cinnamon
a pinch of turmeric
1/2 tsp sugar
salt to taste
1 tsp canola oil
1 Tbsp chopped fresh cilantro.

In the morning, before heading out to work, heat the oil in the
crockpot set to high. Saute the onions, add the cumin and turmeric,
saute a little more and then throw the rest of the ingredients except
the cilantro into the pot. Add 3 cups of water, and leave it simmering
in the crockpot for the day.

For dinner, adjust seasonings, you can squeeze some lemon juice if
ncessary and serve garnished with cilantro.

Other things we do -
1. Cook spaghetti and serve with store-bought pasta sauce, a salad. I
can get this on the table in about 30 minutes(time to cook pasta).
2. Serve pita bread with hummus(make this on weekends or use
store-bought) and stuff vegetable crudites raw or lighly steamed or
quickly pan- fried.
3. Sandwiches with cream cheese or hummus or pesto as spreads and
filled with lettuce, sliced cucumbers, tomatoes, red onions, sliced
cheese, etc. Serve with soup(pre-made in the weekend).
4. Vegetable pilaf with yogurt raita.
5. Use a pressure cooker to cook myriad dishes and have dinner ready on
the table in less than 45 minutes, but this one to be organized.

And so on.

Hope this helps.

-Kamala.

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On 30 Aug 2005 19:06:12 -0700, Jude > wrote:
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> Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
> it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
>
> I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
>
> All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
> pizza.


One of our favorite meals is just to take ahi tuna filets, marinate it
in soy sauce and wasabi (can do this overnight) then sear quickly in a cast
iron skillet. We eat it with plain steamed rice and steamed broccoli. The
rice should fit in your time limit if you start it as soon as you get home,
and everything else has a short cooking--an extra bonus in hot weather when
you don't want the oven going. Other ideas, assuming you're not wanting all
casseroles:


--Quick stir-fry: Might involve either buying the ingredients pre-prepped or
doing the prepwork ahead of time, but it's healthy and not too heavy.

--Big salad: Tearing lettuce doesn't take long, but you can buy the pre-bagged
greens as well and include any number of additions to make it more of a
meal-- fake crab, boiled shrimp, good quality canned salmon or tuna,
hard-boiled eggs, cold boiled potatoes sliced thinly, radishes, grated
carrot, cucumber, bell peppers, tomatoes, mushrooms, pine nuts,
sunflower seeds, grated cheese, olives...

--Pasta with a "fresh" tomato sauce, the kind that requires no cooking. I've
heard of people just assembling fresh diced tomatoes, garlic, basil,
oregano, whatever grabs their fancy. Let it sit on the counter for the
flavors to meld, then boil up some pasta to go with it, grate some parmesan
on top and have at it.


Those are just some ideas...

Ariane



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Ariane Jenkins wrote:
> On 30 Aug 2005 19:06:12 -0700, Jude > wrote:
> [snip]
> > Beyond that, I'm at a loss for casseroles that don't feel too heavy -
> > it's still 83 degrees here right now and pretty damned humid too.
> >
> > I know you all can help me! Whatcha got?
> >
> > All I know is that I'm tired of take-out chinese food and delivery
> > pizza.

>
> One of our favorite meals is just to take ahi tuna filets, marinate it
> in soy sauce and wasabi (can do this overnight) then sear quickly in a cast
> iron skillet. We eat it with plain steamed rice and steamed broccoli. The
> rice should fit in your time limit if you start it as soon as you get home,
> and everything else has a short cooking--an extra bonus in hot weather when
> you don't want the oven going. Other ideas, assuming you're not wanting all
> casseroles:
>


If you are not determined to make casseroles - I use my grill pan to
cook big portobello mushrooms whole and then serve them on hamburger
buns. You could also grill squash or eggplant slices and serve them
the same way. Quick and easy.

If you are determined to make casseroles - make them over the weekend
or the night before. Quiche is easy to make ahead of time and tastes
good when served cold. I assume that you eat dairy.

Susan B.

ps to everyone else: Are you getting points for "outing" her as a true
vegetarian? It's sounding like the Spanish Inquisition out there. For
all you know, she picks the tuna out of her casserole. What possible
difference does it make to you?

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Sorry about plugging my own site, but at least it's on topic:

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