I am a dreaded newbie in this NG since I 've decided to take over cooking in
this household. I've done a fair amount of reading on the Net and have
learned a great lot in the last few weeks. So far I'm pleased with myself
although I can see it will take time.

One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often hear to use a few drops
of lemon oil. Looking around in our local grocery all I find is Lemon
Extract in the spice section. That's not the same is it?

Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong section. I could of course buy a few
lemons and use them but from what I can see it's available bottles.

The Newbie

"The Newbie" > wrote in message
...

> One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often
> hear to use a few drops of lemon oil. Looking
> around in our local grocery all I find is Lemon
> Extract in the spice section. That's not the same
> is it?

Hm. In my experience, lemon oil (and other flavored oils) is used for
candy making and the like. To add further potential confusion, lemon
oil for candy making is *not* the same thing as lemon essential oil
(which, as a general rule of thumb for the newbie aromatherapist,
should not be taken internally). If you have a shop nearby which
carries specialty baking/candy making supplies, check there.

-j

On Fri 04 Mar 2005 11:36:10p, jacqui{JB} wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "The Newbie" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often
>> hear to use a few drops of lemon oil. Looking
>> around in our local grocery all I find is Lemon
>> Extract in the spice section. That's not the same is it?
>
> Hm. In my experience, lemon oil (and other flavored oils) is used for
> candy making and the like. To add further potential confusion, lemon
> oil for candy making is *not* the same thing as lemon essential oil
> (which, as a general rule of thumb for the newbie aromatherapist,
> should not be taken internally). If you have a shop nearby which
> carries specialty baking/candy making supplies, check there.
>
> -j
>
>

I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in cooking,
baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I usually
have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name, wrote:

>I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in cooking,
>baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I usually
>have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.

What the heck are you doing with clove oil?

I'm glad someone besides me is still up.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name,
> wrote:
>
>> I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in
>> cooking, baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order
>> them. I usually have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint,
>> almond, and anise.
>
> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>
> Carol

I'm still up for a bit; but I'm laying down 'cause I'm falling asleep at
this darn machine. I need to ask the group a question.

kili

Carol replied to Wayne:

>> I usually have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and
>> anise.
>
> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.


Didn't you ever see "Marathon Man"?

Bob
"Is it safe?"

"Bob" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>Carol replied to Wayne:
>
>>> I usually have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and
>>> anise.
>>
>> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>>
>> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>
>
>Didn't you ever see "Marathon Man"?

No, I'm going to need you to explain that one. <confused look>

>Bob
>"Is it safe?"

Nothing is safe. They're all out to get us.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
:

> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>
>

Clove oil is an excellent cure for toothache.

--
No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
Continuing to be Manitoban

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:27:16 GMT, Hahabogus >
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
:
>
>> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>>
>> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.

Hey, I am still up, but these are my usual hours. You guys trying to
become a night owl like me?

Christine

On Sat 05 Mar 2005 04:27:16a, Hahabogus wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
> :
>
>> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>>
>> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>>
>>
>
> Clove oil is an excellent cure for toothache.
>

Yes, it is. However, I could never use it for that. An over zealous school
nurse burned my mouth rather badly with way too much clove oil when I was in
highschool. Other than a drop or two in cooking, I can't stand it.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

On Sat 05 Mar 2005 12:40:09a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name, wrote:
>
>>I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in cooking,
>>baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I usually
>>have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.
>
> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>
> Carol

I make a candied sweet pickle that calls for a few drops each of clove and
cinnamon oils. Whole cloves and cinnamon bark can make the pickling syrup
bitter after a while; the oil does not.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

In article >,
wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name,
> wrote:
>
> >I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in
> >cooking, baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order
> >them. I usually have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint,
> >almond, and anise.
>

> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>
> Carol

Hard candy!! Watermelon pickles!! (And I buy LorAnn brand at Maid of
Scandinavia/Sweet Celebrations.)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

Melba's Jammin' >, if that's their real name,
wrote:

>In article >,
wrote:
>
>> Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name,
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in
>> >cooking, baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order
>> >them. I usually have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint,
>> >almond, and anise.
>
>> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
>Hard candy!! Watermelon pickles!! (And I buy LorAnn brand at Maid of
>Scandinavia/Sweet Celebrations.)

<G> The question was specific to Wayne. He had a childhood trauma
involving clove oil. I was just kinda shocked that he had some in his
house.

Carol, who puts butter and ground cloves on sauteed fish
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name, wrote:
>
>>I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in cooking,
>>baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I usually
>>have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.
>
> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> I'm glad someone besides me is still up.
>
> Carol
============

We use clove oil for tooth aches.

Cyndi

"Rick & Cyndi" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>We use clove oil for tooth aches.

Back during the Stone Age, I attended Dental Assisting school. Following
periodontal surgery, patients' gums were covered with pink clove gunk.
That's all I can think of when I smell a strong aroma of cloves. I'd have
to be pretty desperate, and in a tremendous amount of pain, to use that
stuff.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name,
wrote:
>
> >I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in
cooking,
> >baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I
usually
> >have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.
>
> What the heck are you doing with clove oil?

Just for fun dribble a few drops of clove oil on the toilet seat and
wait for someone to park their butt. hehehehehehehe

Sheldon (who when 12 used to sneak into the ladies room of the movie
theater... oil of cloves is almost as bad as oil of wintergreen)

In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> > Wayne Boatwright >, if that's his real name,
> wrote:
> >
> > >I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in
> cooking,
> > >baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I
> usually
> > >have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.
> >
> > What the heck are you doing with clove oil?
>
> Just for fun dribble a few drops of clove oil on the toilet seat and
> wait for someone to park their butt. hehehehehehehe
>
> Sheldon (who when 12 used to sneak into the ladies room of the movie
> theater... oil of cloves is almost as bad as oil of wintergreen)
>

You are an evil SOB Shel'... ;-)
That is what we love about you!
--
K.

Wayne wrote:


> I keep a variety of oils on hand, including lemon, that I use in cooking,
> baking, and pickling. I have a local pharmacist order them. I usually
> have orange, lemon, cinnamon, clove, peppermint, almond, and anise.

That reminds me: Does anyone here know what "cucumber essence" is, and how
to obtain it in an edible form? I ran across some interesting drink recipes
which call for it, and when I go looking for it, it only shows up in
cosmetic formulations.

Bob

The Newbie wrote:
> I am a dreaded newbie in this NG since I 've decided to take over
> cooking in this household. I've done a fair amount of reading on the
> Net and have learned a great lot in the last few weeks. So far I'm
> pleased with myself although I can see it will take time.
>
> One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often hear to use a few
> drops of lemon oil. Looking around in our local grocery all I find
> is Lemon Extract in the spice section. That's not the same is it?
>
> Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong section. I could of course buy
> a few lemons and use them but from what I can see it's available
> bottles.
>
> The Newbie

Lemon oil? When I make fish I squeeze fresh lemon JUICE on it; not an
extract. I've never heard of lemon oil on fish!?!

kili

In article >,
"The Newbie" > wrote:

> I am a dreaded newbie in this NG since I 've decided to take over cooking in
> this household. I've done a fair amount of reading on the Net and have
> learned a great lot in the last few weeks. So far I'm pleased with myself
> although I can see it will take time.
>
> One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often hear to use a few drops
> of lemon oil. Looking around in our local grocery all I find is Lemon
> Extract in the spice section. That's not the same is it?
>
> Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong section. I could of course buy a few
> lemons and use them but from what I can see it's available bottles.
>
> The Newbie
>
>

hmmmm... IMHO it's better to use a squeeze of FRESH lemon juice after
the fish has cooked.

When I bake fish, I do like to slice whole lemons thin and lay the
slices over the fish.

I also like to add fresh or dried dill, and a little salt free lemon
pepper....

--
K.

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In article >,
The Newbie > wrote:
>I am a dreaded newbie in this NG since I 've decided to take over cooking in
>this household. I've done a fair amount of reading on the Net and have
>learned a great lot in the last few weeks. So far I'm pleased with myself
>although I can see it will take time.
>
>One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often hear to use a few drops
>of lemon oil. Looking around in our local grocery all I find is Lemon
>Extract in the spice section. That's not the same is it?
>
>Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong section. I could of course buy a few
>lemons and use them but from what I can see it's available bottles.

Lemon oil and lemon extract are NOT the same thing.

Unless your local grocer is exceptional, you would probably not find lemon
oil there. Fancy grocers, "gourmet" shops (food/kitchenwares), some more
enlightened natural food shops, and baking specialists would be better bets.

The oil I have is made by Boyajian. (The 1 oz bottle is often packaged
as a set with orange and lime oils.) It is highly concentrated. As an
example, I use 1 teaspoon (scant even) to flavor 3/4 lb of chocolate for
ganache (truffle filling) and it is fairly lemony.

I would substitute it for fresh lemon zest (sometimes even here in
California I don't always have a fresh lemon to hand ... pretty rare
though ;-). I will say that it's likely to disperse better in something
where liquid is central than zest.

If a recipe calls for extract, oil might make it taste more LEMONY,
although I'd be careful about substituing exact amounts because of the
concentration. ("Halve and taste" would be a good rule, I think.)

Charlotte
--

In article >, "The Newbie"
> wrote:

> I am a dreaded newbie in this NG since I 've decided to take over
> cooking in this household. I've done a fair amount of reading on the
> Net and have learned a great lot in the last few weeks. So far I'm
> pleased with myself although I can see it will take time.
>
> One thing had been bothering me......fish. I often hear to use a few
> drops of lemon oil. Looking around in our local grocery all I find
> is Lemon Extract in the spice section. That's not the same is it?
>
> Perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong section. I could of course buy
> a few lemons and use them but from what I can see it's available
> bottles.
>
> The Newbie

Lemon oil on fish, huh? I've heard of it on furniture. . . .
I sprinkle lemon _juice_ on fish. I refuse to believe that lemon oil is
what you're after -- the oils are VERY intense and I just can't imagine
the value of it on fish.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.