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Since I have some yellow cake mix, a can of chocolate frosting, and "cook and serve" vanilla pudding, I thought I'd make Boston Cream Pie. Only thing is, I suspect the pudding will be kind of bland, compared to the filling one usually gets in a store-bought BCP. (It might also be too thin.)
So, does anyone have any suggestions to make it taste more like custard? Of course, one thing I could do is use less milk than the pudding box suggests, but I wanted your suggestions too. (I'm guessing that, even with "cook and serve" pudding, one does not want to add an egg! But if you've ever done that and had it work, let me know.) Lenona. |
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On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 8:13:03 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > Since I have some yellow cake mix, a can of chocolate frosting, and "cook and serve" vanilla pudding, I thought I'd make Boston Cream Pie. Only thing is, I suspect the pudding will be kind of bland, compared to the filling one usually gets in a store-bought BCP. (It might also be too thin.) > > So, does anyone have any suggestions to make it taste more like custard? Of course, one thing I could do is use less milk than the pudding box suggests, but I wanted your suggestions too. > > (I'm guessing that, even with "cook and serve" pudding, one does not want to add an egg! But if you've ever done that and had it work, let me know.) > > Lenona. > Good grief, why not make a decent one from scratch? What you are attempting to concoct would not even be a poor example of Boston cream pie. |
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Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it.
I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? |
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On 2021-03-21 10:09 a.m., Lenona wrote:
> Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it. > > I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. > > But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? > Don't they all have to be cooked? How about something like Bird's Custard mix? |
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On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:24:35 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-21 10:09 a.m., Lenona wrote: > > Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it. > > > > I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. > > > > But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? > > > Don't they all have to be cooked? Jello Brand Instant Pudding doesn't have to be cooked. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 3/21/2021 10:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:24:35 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2021-03-21 10:09 a.m., Lenona wrote: >>> Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it. >>> >>> I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. >>> >>> But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? >>> >> Don't they all have to be cooked? > > Jello Brand Instant Pudding doesn't have to be cooked. Have you ever used that? Not good at all. |
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On 3/21/2021 10:09 AM, Lenona wrote:
> Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it. > > I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. > > But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? > Eat a peanut butter sandwich and forget the cake until you can make it right. ![]() |
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Gary wrote:
> Eat a peanut butter sandwich and forget the cake until you can make it > right. ![]() Why'd you say anything if you haven't a clue ![]() -- -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/646422620667019264 |
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On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 9:09:53 AM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it. > So, who held a gun to your head and made you buy the 'discount frosting'? > > I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. > If it's going to cause such a dilemma I'd steer clear of mixes if I were you. > > But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? > Simple. I'd not make a dessert that called for a custard if I didn't have the correct ingredients to make one. Just make the damn cake and slap that discount frosting on top and be done with it. Why you always imagine these predicaments or get yourself into them is a mystery to me. Have you considered taking a 7th grade home economics class? |
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On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 3:28:44 PM UTC-4, itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> Why you always imagine these predicaments or get yourself into them is a mystery > to me. Have you considered taking a 7th grade home economics class? Why you think it's polite to be patronizing is a mystery to ME. I never considered making a BCP in any non-traditional way until I suddenly realized I had all the main "ingredients" in the kitchen. I doubt that either the gold cake or the frosting won't "work." So that just leaves the pudding. Besides, many years ago, when I got a copy of White Trash Cooking (which relies on processed foods pretty often), while it's true that some recipes looked gross, most of them actually work quite well, which is likely why there was a second cookbook! So I figured this could work, too. What's wrong with experimenting? And, a quarter-century ago, I wrote a long list of sales prices for ingredients at my local supermarket (with guidance from The Complete Tightwad Gazette) but I haven't looked at the list in years. Why? Because I have it pretty much memorized, despite the rises in prices. If I took out what I spend on junk food (anything sugary, that is, including most cereals and tomato soup), my monthly food budget would be well below $100. Only diehard vegans in my neighborhood MIGHT spend less than I do, since they don't always look at prices. Bottom line: Most of the time, I really don't need help making good use of anything I have. But we all need tips occasionally, thank you. |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 18:49:16 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
wrote: >On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 3:28:44 PM UTC-4, itsjoannotjoann wrote: > >> Why you always imagine these predicaments or get yourself into them is a mystery >> to me. Have you considered taking a 7th grade home economics class? > > >Why you think it's polite to be patronizing is a mystery to ME. "When people treat you like a dog, you have to be a bigger dog." (Rutger Hauer about Sylvester Stallone) -- The real Bruce posts with Eternal September |
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On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 8:49:20 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 3:28:44 PM UTC-4, itsjoannotjoann wrote: > > > Why you always imagine these predicaments or get yourself into them is a mystery > > to me. Have you considered taking a 7th grade home economics class? > > > Why you think it's polite to be patronizing is a mystery to ME. > Because you're always asking for help with the simplest of recipes. > > I never considered making a BCP in any non-traditional way until I suddenly realized I had all the main "ingredients" in the kitchen. I doubt that either the gold cake or the frosting won't "work." So that just leaves the pudding. Besides, many years ago, when I got a copy of White Trash Cooking (which relies on processed foods pretty often), while it's true that some recipes looked gross, most of them actually work quite well, which is likely why there was a second cookbook! So I figured this could work, too. What's wrong with experimenting? > There's nothing wrong with experimenting. But you don't have the ingredients for a Boston cream pie. You were hoping you could magically turn a cake mix, boxed pudding, and a can of discount frosting into it. What you have is the ingredients for a boxed cake mix. Period. > And, a quarter-century ago, I wrote a long list of sales prices for ingredients at my local supermarket (with guidance from The Complete Tightwad Gazette) but I haven't looked at the list in years. Why? Because I have it pretty much memorized, despite the rises in prices. If I took out what I spend on junk food (anything sugary, that is, including most cereals and tomato soup), my monthly food budget would be well below $100. Only diehard vegans in my neighborhood MIGHT spend less than I do, since they don't always look at prices. > What in sam hill your 25-year-old list has to do with your hoped for concoction is a mystery that only you are interested in. > > Bottom line: Most of the time, I really don't need help making good use of anything I have. But we all need tips occasionally, thank you. > Bottom line: You're always asking for help with something to you are trying to create with the wrong ingredients. |
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On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:09:53 AM UTC-4, Lenona wrote:
> Believe me, if I hadn't found that frosting in the discount section, I wouldn't have considered it. Crap on sale is still crap. > I suppose I really shouldn't buy mixes just because they're half off. Especially pudding. Or cake. Take your own good advice next time you're in the grocery store. Trust your instincts. > But I'm still curious to know if anyone's made that experiment with pudding mix. After, if there were an emergency that called for custard in a hurry and you didn't have time to make one from scratch (or run to the store for custard powder), what would you do? An emergency like the house is burning down? Emergencies don't call for custard in a hurry. Custard is always optional. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:55:49 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> > wrote: > > > Good grief, why not make a decent one from scratch? What you are attempting > > to concoct would not even be a poor example of Boston cream pie. > > Said with a webtv address, so that none of the irony would be lost. > > https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/646422620667019264 > It's a fake address, dipshit just like your gmail address. But that's ok, poor little ol' Lenona has to call upon her friends for support and have them come here as a troll to defend her. |
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 8:04:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > wrote: > > > It's a fake address > > The planet "Got it," ****. You're a troll. > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Tell Lenona to stop sulking and come back with some more 'recipes' and questions. We'd like some click bait articles, too. |
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 18:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Lenona >
wrote: >Since I have some yellow cake mix, a can of chocolate frosting, and "cook and serve" vanilla pudding, I thought I'd make Boston Cream Pie. Only thing is, I suspect the pudding will be kind of bland, compared to the filling one usually gets in a store-bought BCP. (It might also be too thin.) > >So, does anyone have any suggestions to make it taste more like custard? Of course, one thing I could do is use less milk than the pudding box suggests, but I wanted your suggestions too. > >(I'm guessing that, even with "cook and serve" pudding, one does not want to add an egg! But if you've ever done that and had it work, let me know.) > > >Lenona. It sticks in my head that the instant pudding will weep in that kind of situation. That's from some vague thought way back in my youth -- so don't trust me on that. Janet US |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 08:53:14 -0600, US Janet >
wrote: >On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 18:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Lenona > >wrote: > >>Since I have some yellow cake mix, a can of chocolate frosting, and "cook and serve" vanilla pudding, I thought I'd make Boston Cream Pie. Only thing is, I suspect the pudding will be kind of bland, compared to the filling one usually gets in a store-bought BCP. (It might also be too thin.) >> >>So, does anyone have any suggestions to make it taste more like custard? Of course, one thing I could do is use less milk than the pudding box suggests, but I wanted your suggestions too. >> >>(I'm guessing that, even with "cook and serve" pudding, one does not want to add an egg! But if you've ever done that and had it work, let me know.) >> >> >>Lenona. > >It sticks in my head that the instant pudding will weep in that kind >of situation. That's from some vague thought way back in my youth -- >so don't trust me on that. >Janet US Boston cream pie requires a pastry cream to set up properly and help that filling stay in place in between the layers A favorite variation, with an orange twist and multi-layers. Garten's recipes have never failed me and chocolate and orange is a favorite combo. I change out the kind of chocolate at times, though, and always have a jar of instant Medaglia d'Oro in the freezer. I kept in her brand recommendations in the cut & paste below, so all could be seen. Alas, it makes too much cake for us these days. Maybe when things calm down and there are dinner parties and larger gatherings ahead, it will go back in the repertoire. https://barefootcontessa.com/recipes/boston-cream-pie for the cake: ¾ cup whole milk 6 tablespoons (¾ stick) unsalted butter 1½ teaspoons pure vanilla extract ½ teaspoon grated orange zest 1½ cups all-purpose flour 1½ teaspoons baking powder 1½ teaspoons kosher salt 3 extra-large eggs, at room temperature 1½ cups sugar for the soak: ¹/3 cup freshly squeezed orange juice ¹/3 cup sugar 1 tablespoon Grand Marnier for the chocolate glaze: ¾ cup heavy cream 1¼ cups semisweet chocolate chips, such as Nestlé’s (7½ ounces) 2 ounces bittersweet chocolate, such as Lindt, broken in pieces 2 tablespoons light corn syrup 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract ½ teaspoon instant coffee granules, such as Nescafé Grand Marnier Pastry Cream (recipe follows) Preheat the oven to 325 degrees. Butter two 9-inch round baking pans, line them with parchment paper, butter and flour the pans, and tap out the excess flour. Set aside. For the cake, scald the milk and butter in a small saucepan over medium heat (see note). Off the heat, add the vanilla and orange zest, cover the pan, and set aside. In a small bowl, sift together the flour, baking powder, and salt and set aside. In the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle attachment, beat the eggs and sugar on medium-high speed for 4 minutes, until thick and light yellow and the mixture falls back on itself in a ribbon. By hand, first whisk in the warm milk mixture and then slowly whisk in the flour mixture. Don’t overmix! Pour the batter evenly into the prepared pans. Bake for 22 to 25 minutes, until a toothpick comes out clean. Allow the cakes to cool in the pans for 15 minutes, then turn them out onto a baking rack, flipping them so the top sides are up. Cool to room temperature. For the soak, combine the orange juice and sugar in a small (8-inch) sauté pan and heat until the sugar dissolves. Off the heat, add the Grand Marnier and set aside. For the chocolate glaze, combine the heavy cream, semisweet chocolate chips, bittersweet chocolate, corn syrup, vanilla, and coffee in a heatproof bowl set over a pot of simmering water. Stir occasionally with a wooden spoon, just until the chocolates melt. Remove from the heat and set aside for 25 to 30 minutes, stirring occasionally, until the chocolate is thick enough to fall back on itself in a ribbon. To assemble, cut both cakes in half horizontally. Place the bottom of one cake on a flat plate, cut side up. Brush it with a third of the soak. Spread a third of the Grand Marnier Pastry Cream on the cake. Place the top of the first cake on top, cut side down, and repeat with the soak and pastry cream. Place the bottom of the second cake on top, cut side up. Repeat with the soak and pastry cream. Place the top of the second cake on top, cut side down. Pour the ganache on the cake, allowing it to drip down the sides. Set aside for one hour, until the chocolate sets. Cut in wedges and serve. Grand Marnier Pastry Cream (Makes enough for one 9-inch cake) 5 extra-large egg yolks, at room temperature ¾ cup sugar ¼ cup cornstarch 1½ cups whole milk 1 tablespoon unsalted butter 1 tablespoon heavy cream 1 tablespoon Grand Marnier 1 teaspoon Cognac or brandy ½ teaspoon pure vanilla extract Beat the egg yolks and sugar in the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle attachment on medium-high speed for 4 minutes, until very thick. Reduce the speed to low and add the cornstarch. Meanwhile, scald the milk in a medium saucepan. With the mixer on low, slowly pour the hot milk into the egg mixture. Pour the mixture back into the saucepan and cook over medium-low heat for 5 to 7 minutes, stirring constantly with a wooden spoon, until the mixture starts to thicken. When the custard starts to clump on the bottom of the pan, stir constantly with a whisk (don’t beat it!) to keep the custard smooth. Cook over low heat until the custard is very thick like pudding. If you lift some custard with the whisk, it should fall back onto itself in a ribbon. Off the heat, stir in the butter, heavy cream, Grand Marnier, Cognac, and vanilla. Whisk until smooth and transfer to a bowl. Cool for 15 minutes. Place plastic wrap directly on the custard (not the bowl) and refrigerate until very cold. NOTES: To scald milk, heat it just below the boiling point—there will be small bubbles around the edge of the milk. Don’t let it boil! Don’t refrigerate the assembled cake because beads of condensation will form on the chocolate. MAKE AHEAD: Prepare the cakes and pastry cream, wrap well, and refrigerate separately. Prepare the chocolate glaze and assemble an hour before serving. |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:23:11 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 08:53:14 -0600, US Janet > >wrote: > >>On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 18:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Lenona > >>wrote: >> >>>Since I have some yellow cake mix, a can of chocolate frosting, and "cook and serve" vanilla pudding, I thought I'd make Boston Cream Pie. Only thing is, I suspect the pudding will be kind of bland, compared to the filling one usually gets in a store-bought BCP. (It might also be too thin.) >>> >>>So, does anyone have any suggestions to make it taste more like custard? Of course, one thing I could do is use less milk than the pudding box suggests, but I wanted your suggestions too. >>> >>>(I'm guessing that, even with "cook and serve" pudding, one does not want to add an egg! But if you've ever done that and had it work, let me know.) >>> >>> >>>Lenona. >> >>It sticks in my head that the instant pudding will weep in that kind >>of situation. That's from some vague thought way back in my youth -- >>so don't trust me on that. >>Janet US > >Boston cream pie requires a pastry cream to set up properly and help >that filling stay in place in between the layers > >A favorite variation, with an orange twist and multi-layers. Garten's >recipes have never failed me and chocolate and orange is a favorite >combo. > >I change out the kind of chocolate at times, though, and always have a >jar of instant Medaglia d'Oro in the freezer. I kept in her brand >recommendations in the cut & paste below, so all could be seen. > >Alas, it makes too much cake for us these days. Maybe when things calm >down and there are dinner parties and larger gatherings ahead, it will >go back in the repertoire. > >https://barefootcontessa.com/recipes/boston-cream-pie > >for the cake: > >¾ cup whole milk >6 tablespoons (¾ stick) unsalted butter >1½ teaspoons pure vanilla extract >½ teaspoon grated orange zest >1½ cups all-purpose flour >1½ teaspoons baking powder >1½ teaspoons kosher salt >3 extra-large eggs, at room temperature >1½ cups sugar >for the soak: > >¹/3 cup freshly squeezed orange juice >¹/3 cup sugar >1 tablespoon Grand Marnier > >for the chocolate glaze: > >¾ cup heavy cream >1¼ cups semisweet chocolate chips, such as Nestlé’s (7½ ounces) >2 ounces bittersweet chocolate, such as Lindt, broken in pieces >2 tablespoons light corn syrup >1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract >½ teaspoon instant coffee granules, such as Nescafé > >Grand Marnier Pastry Cream (recipe follows) > >Preheat the oven to 325 degrees. Butter two 9-inch round baking pans, >line them with parchment paper, butter and flour the pans, and tap out >the excess flour. Set aside. > >For the cake, scald the milk and butter in a small saucepan over >medium heat (see note). Off the heat, add the vanilla and orange zest, >cover the pan, and set aside. In a small bowl, sift together the >flour, baking powder, and salt and set aside. > >In the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle attachment, >beat the eggs and sugar on medium-high speed for 4 minutes, until >thick and light yellow and the mixture falls back on itself in a >ribbon. By hand, first whisk in the warm milk mixture and then slowly >whisk in the flour mixture. Don’t overmix! Pour the batter evenly into >the prepared pans. Bake for 22 to 25 minutes, until a toothpick comes >out clean. Allow the cakes to cool in the pans for 15 minutes, then >turn them out onto a baking rack, flipping them so the top sides are >up. Cool to room temperature. > >For the soak, combine the orange juice and sugar in a small (8-inch) >sauté pan and heat until the sugar dissolves. Off the heat, add the >Grand Marnier and set aside. > >For the chocolate glaze, combine the heavy cream, semisweet chocolate >chips, bittersweet chocolate, corn syrup, vanilla, and coffee in a >heatproof bowl set over a pot of simmering water. Stir occasionally >with a wooden spoon, just until the chocolates melt. Remove from the >heat and set aside for 25 to 30 minutes, stirring occasionally, until >the chocolate is thick enough to fall back on itself in a ribbon. > >To assemble, cut both cakes in half horizontally. Place the bottom of >one cake on a flat plate, cut side up. Brush it with a third of the >soak. Spread a third of the Grand Marnier Pastry Cream on the cake. >Place the top of the first cake on top, cut side down, and repeat with >the soak and pastry cream. Place the bottom of the second cake on top, >cut side up. Repeat with the soak and pastry cream. Place the top of >the second cake on top, cut side down. Pour the ganache on the cake, >allowing it to drip down the sides. Set aside for one hour, until the >chocolate sets. Cut in wedges and serve. > >Grand Marnier Pastry Cream (Makes enough for one 9-inch cake) > >5 extra-large egg yolks, at room temperature >¾ cup sugar >¼ cup cornstarch >1½ cups whole milk >1 tablespoon unsalted butter >1 tablespoon heavy cream >1 tablespoon Grand Marnier >1 teaspoon Cognac or brandy >½ teaspoon pure vanilla extract >Beat the egg yolks and sugar in the bowl of an electric mixer fitted >with the paddle attachment on medium-high speed for 4 minutes, until >very thick. Reduce the speed to low and add the cornstarch. > >Meanwhile, scald the milk in a medium saucepan. With the mixer on low, >slowly pour the hot milk into the egg mixture. Pour the mixture back >into the saucepan and cook over medium-low heat for 5 to 7 minutes, >stirring constantly with a wooden spoon, until the mixture starts to >thicken. When the custard starts to clump on the bottom of the pan, >stir constantly with a whisk (don’t beat it!) to keep the custard >smooth. > >Cook over low heat until the custard is very thick like pudding. If >you lift some custard with the whisk, it should fall back onto itself >in a ribbon. Off the heat, stir in the butter, heavy cream, Grand >Marnier, Cognac, and vanilla. Whisk until smooth and transfer to a >bowl. Cool for 15 minutes. Place plastic wrap directly on the custard >(not the bowl) and refrigerate until very cold. > >NOTES: > >To scald milk, heat it just below the boiling point—there will be >small bubbles around the edge of the milk. Don’t let it boil! > >Don’t refrigerate the assembled cake because beads of condensation >will form on the chocolate. > >MAKE AHEAD: > >Prepare the cakes and pastry cream, wrap well, and refrigerate >separately. Prepare the chocolate glaze and assemble an hour before >serving. The recipe sounds tasty. However I don't bake anything anymore. The results are just too plentiful for us Janet US |
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:56:12 -0600, US Janet >
wrote: >On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:23:11 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: > > >> >>Alas, it makes too much cake for us these days. Maybe when things calm >>down and there are dinner parties and larger gatherings ahead, it will >>go back in the repertoire. >> >>https://barefootcontessa.com/recipes/boston-cream-pie >> >The recipe sounds tasty. However I don't bake anything anymore. The >results are just too plentiful for us >Janet US I freeze things. Even a 9" square pan of brownies is too much for us to go through. Damned shame, too, I used to love eating the stuff I baked. |
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On 2021-03-21 5:23 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:56:12 -0600, US Janet > > wrote: > >> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:23:11 -0400, Boron Elgar >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Alas, it makes too much cake for us these days. Maybe when things calm >>> down and there are dinner parties and larger gatherings ahead, it will >>> go back in the repertoire. >>> >>> https://barefootcontessa.com/recipes/boston-cream-pie >>> > >> The recipe sounds tasty. However I don't bake anything anymore. The >> results are just too plentiful for us >> Janet US > > I freeze things. Even a 9" square pan of brownies is too much for us > to go through. > > Damned shame, too, I used to love eating the stuff I baked. > I still do but, increasingly, it doesn't like me! |
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On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:53:19 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
> It sticks in my head that the instant pudding will weep in that kind > of situation. It's NOT instant. I spelled that out. |
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