On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 11:32:21 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> On 2/5/2021 9:15 PM, Alex wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >> On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 4:42:51 PM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> Seven years devoted to the post secondary? Sounds very Londony,
> >>> Parisy or New Yorky of you.
> >> I'm probably the most overeducated RFCer ever! Bachelor's Degrees in
> >> CS, EE and Nursing!
> >>
> >> And I just got a new home care pediatric nursing client! :-)
> >>
> >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> >
> > I have ONE degree and I make over 5 times your $26 per hour but I don't
> > post about it.
> Actually you have posted about it - several times.
> You have all the good toys.
>
> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a swimming
> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a swimming pool again?
>
> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me that they
> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>
The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.

--Bryan

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 10:47:44 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 11:32:21 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>> On 2/5/2021 9:15 PM, Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> And I just got a new home care pediatric nursing client! :-)
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>> >
>> > I have ONE degree and I make over 5 times your $26 per hour but I don't
>> > post about it.
>> Actually you have posted about it - several times.
>> You have all the good toys.
>>
>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a swimming
>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a swimming pool again?
>>
>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me that they
>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>>
>The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
>ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.

We have an outdoor pool. It's almost like having a high maintenance
pet.

On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a swimming
>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a swimming pool again?
>>
>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me that they
>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>>
> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
> ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.
>
> --Bryan
>

Opinions vary.
I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted one
myself. My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a pool care
business.

On 2/7/2021 4:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a swimming
>>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a swimming pool
>>> again?
>>>
>>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me that they
>>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>>>
>> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
>> ground pool.Â* Everyone I know who has one loves it.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>
> Opinions vary.
> I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted one
> myself.Â* My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a pool care
> business.

Obviously your son is well aware of the expense and problems that go
hand in hand with owning a pool.

Jill

On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:01:13 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On 2/7/2021 4:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a swimming
> >>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a swimming pool
> >>> again?
> >>>
> >>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me that they
> >>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
> >>>
> >> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
> >> ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >>
> >
> > Opinions vary.
> > I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted one
> > myself. My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a pool care
> > business.
> Obviously your son is well aware of the expense and problems that go
> hand in hand with owning a pool.
>
> Jill
>
I don't think he'd be able to afford one for quite a while. He just noticed the pool,
and thought it was cool. One big expense is a huge increase in homeowner's
insurance.

--Bryan

On 2/7/2021 5:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:01:13 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>> On 2/7/2021 4:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a swimming
>>>>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a swimming pool
>>>>> again?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me that they
>>>>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>>>>>
>>>> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
>>>> ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> Opinions vary.
>>> I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted one
>>> myself. My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a pool care
>>> business.
>> Obviously your son is well aware of the expense and problems that go
>> hand in hand with owning a pool.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I don't think he'd be able to afford one for quite a while. He just noticed the pool,
> and thought it was cool. One big expense is a huge increase in homeowner's
> insurance.
>
> --Bryan
>
Absolutely an increase in his homeowner's insurance. That along with
required fencing because you never know when some curious neighborhood
kids who are attracted to a pool in the heat of summer might wander in.
It's got to be secure. Not to mention the cost of the algae retardent
chemicals, cleaning the filters, constantly skimming the pool for
falling leaves. Then draining and covering the pool when winter rolls
around. It's a lot of work. Might look like fun in the Summer until he
gets down to the constant maintenance only to find it's only being used
a few months out of the year.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/7/2021 5:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:01:13 PM UTC-6,
>> wrote:
>>> On 2/7/2021 4:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a
>>>>>> swimming
>>>>>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a
>>>>>> swimming pool
>>>>>> again?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me
>>>>>> that they
>>>>>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is
>>>>> buying has an in
>>>>> ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Opinions vary.
>>>> I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted
>>>> one
>>>> myself. My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a
>>>> pool care
>>>> business.
>>> Obviously your son is well aware of the expense and problems
>>> that go
>>> hand in hand with owning a pool.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> I don't think he'd be able to afford one for quite a while.* He
>> just noticed the pool,
>> and thought it was cool.* One big expense is a huge increase in
>> homeowner's
>> insurance.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
> Absolutely an increase in his homeowner's insurance.* That along
> with required fencing because you never know when some curious
> neighborhood kids who are attracted to a pool in the heat of summer
> might wander in. *It's got to be secure.* Not to mention the cost
> of the algae retardent chemicals, cleaning the filters, constantly
> skimming the pool for falling leaves.* Then draining and covering
> the pool when winter rolls around.* It's a lot of work.* Might look
> like fun in the Summer until he gets down to the constant
> maintenance only to find it's only being used a few months out of
> the year.
>
> Jill

But it's worth it when he gets nearly naked 65 year old babes like
you come and splash.

And no way he can get you elderly whores pregnant!

jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/7/2021 5:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:01:13 PM UTC-6,
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2/7/2021 4:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a question for you: You've mentioned that you have a
>>>>>>> swimming
>>>>>>> pool. If you ever move, would you want a house with a
>>>>>>> swimming pool
>>>>>>> again?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've known many customers with pools and all have told me
>>>>>>> that they
>>>>>>> wouldn't want another one...more trouble than they're worth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is
>>>>>> buying has an in
>>>>>> ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions vary.
>>>>> I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted
>>>>> one
>>>>> myself. My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a
>>>>> pool care
>>>>> business.
>>>> Obviously your son is well aware of the expense and problems
>>>> that go
>>>> hand in hand with owning a pool.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> I don't think he'd be able to afford one for quite a while.* He
>>> just noticed the pool,
>>> and thought it was cool.* One big expense is a huge increase in
>>> homeowner's
>>> insurance.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>
>> Absolutely an increase in his homeowner's insurance.* That along
>> with required fencing because you never know when some curious
>> neighborhood kids who are attracted to a pool in the heat of summer
>> might wander in. *It's got to be secure.* Not to mention the cost
>> of the algae retardent chemicals, cleaning the filters, constantly
>> skimming the pool for falling leaves.* Then draining and covering
>> the pool when winter rolls around.* It's a lot of work.* Might look
>> like fun in the Summer until he gets down to the constant
>> maintenance only to find it's only being used a few months out of
>> the year.
>>
>> Jill

Costs a whole lot less for a nicer and much better maintained pool
along with all the acouterments (showers, steamroom, sauna, gym, etc.)
by joining the local Y and the membership is a tax write off as part
of your medical expense (Silver Sneakers) membership is ~50/month.
Pools are typically indoors, some facilities have indoor and outdoor
pools. There are lifeguards and also instructors for water aerobics
classes, some teach SCUBA. The one here has an indoor ice skating
rink.
http://www.rinktime.com/rinks/united...hlehem-branch/

On 2021-02-07 4:44 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:


>> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
>> ground pool.Â* Everyone I know who has one loves it.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>
> Opinions vary.
> I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted one
> myself.Â* My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a pool care
> business.

There was a pool here when we moved in. It was an issue when it came to
price. The owner thought the place was worth more because it had a pool.
I kept telling them I didn't want a pool.

I kept the pool for a few years. It was a pain in the ass. It was a lot
of work and a lot of expense. We found a great way to get rid of it. The
principal of my wife's school was looking for a pool. The guy had 10
adopted kids. I offered the pool to him. He had come and disassemble it,
move it and put it back together. He probably had to buy a new liner.

On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:11:43 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-02-07 4:44 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 2/7/2021 1:47 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
> >> The house that is two houses down from the one my son is buying has an in
> >> ground pool. Everyone I know who has one loves it.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >>
> >
> > Opinions vary.
> > I've enjoyed the use of other's pools at times but never wanted one
> > myself. My son is glad not to have one any more and he owns a pool care
> > business.
> There was a pool here when we moved in. It was an issue when it came to
> price. The owner thought the place was worth more because it had a pool.
> I kept telling them I didn't want a pool.
>
> I kept the pool for a few years. It was a pain in the ass. It was a lot
> of work and a lot of expense. We found a great way to get rid of it. The
> principal of my wife's school was looking for a pool. The guy had 10
> adopted kids. I offered the pool to him. He had come and disassemble it,
> move it and put it back together. He probably had to buy a new liner.

A cheesy above ground pool isn't worth much, but an in ground is another
story. My older sister (I think about 15-16 years older) got married young,
not much out of high school, to a guy a few years older who was already
an apprentice union electrician. They bought a house right away, and
within a few years, they had a nice pool put in. All summer long they used
it. Even though my mother moved to the next block when I was in 5th
grade, and my asshole father didn't move with us, I only went over there
when there was a family occasion, because that sister and I never got
along from the time I was five years old.

I can't imagine a pool being anything but a joy if one can easily afford it,
but it is expensive. I *can* imagine my son buying a hot tub. He's loved
those since he was a toddler. If the hotel had a hot tub, he and his
mother always took advantage of it.

My son has more immediate goals. The house was cheap because it
hadn't been updated since the 1950s. Look at this kitchen:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57718201231971
Sure, it's usable, but it doesn't even have a place for a built in
dishwasher. He's fine with doing dishes by hand because he's a young,
single guy who doesn't cook much, but when he remodels the kitchen
he'll need to put in a dishwasher, and there are plenty of other projects
he'll want to do before the kitchen.

For one thing, the bathroom is pink. It's a nice pink, and in good
condition, and perhaps it will grow on him, but at 19 it clashes with
his masculine sensibilities. Even with that, he'll do the more
immediate work first. The garage is integrated into the house. It's
split level, and has the garage underneath the bathroom and a large
front bedroom where he can put his workout equipment, and a small
bedroom that is perfect for a home office. The other three tiers have
a basement large enough for a pool table, which is high priority for
him. Above that is the living room, dining room and kitchen, and the
highest floor has a giant master bedroom.

Before he does anything expensive, he will have to pay back us for
the down payment, which will be 20%. The only thing we're *giving*
him is a move-in present of a high quality Speed Queen frontloader
and a more moderately priced, mismatched dryer. Maybe in a few
years, when he gets around to gutting the kitchen, we'll surprise him
with a nice Miele dishwasher. We love ours.

--Bryan