On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 2:53:57 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >It must be a local eatery but I don't want to eat at a bar no matter how
> >awesome their food is. Gary and Sheldon don't want to eat alone and I
> >don't want to sit at a bar and eat.
>
> There are many high class taverns that serve great food... the only
> gals who are averse to eat at the bar are those who feel too exposed
> and are ashamed to have their body ogled, they'd rather slink into a
> booth. Attractive women look great poised on a bar stool.
>
I don't frequent taverns nor am I attractive so I guess it's off to a
booth for me so I can hide. No one can ogle my body there.

wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 2:53:57 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It must be a local eatery but I don't want to eat at a bar no matter how
>>> awesome their food is. Gary and Sheldon don't want to eat alone and I
>>> don't want to sit at a bar and eat.
>>
>> There are many high class taverns that serve great food... the only
>> gals who are averse to eat at the bar are those who feel too exposed
>> and are ashamed to have their body ogled, they'd rather slink into a
>> booth. Attractive women look great poised on a bar stool.
>>
> I don't frequent taverns nor am I attractive so I guess it's off to a
> booth for me so I can hide. No one can ogle my body there.
>

Popeye would ogle a hamster, as long as it was male.

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:37:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> And for those unfamiliar with White Castle?
> >
> >Very small hamburgers. AKA "sliders" now.
> >
> >The only time I went to one was when working in Norfolk
> >and there was one nearby. Everyone said, "Yeah, yeah,
> >let's go to White Castle for lunch."
> >
> >I had never heard of that place but when I asked, I was
> >told "the best hamburgers ever!" So ok...I'm in.
> >
> >We all went in and ordered then took our food out to
> >the van to eat. When it was my time to order, the menu
> >said Hamburgers for so much each or get 6 hamburgers
> >for this much.
> >
> >My thought: Who the hell wants to eat 6 hamburgers for
> >lunch??? So I ordered 2 singles.
> >
> >When I got out and opened my bag, I saw how small they
> >were. WTF? No wonder they sell 6-paks of them.
> >
> >Live and learn.
>
> I bet the American food newsgroup is the only food group where people
> can have a lively, in-depth discussion about their various fast food
> joints. Most other nationalities don't consider that stuff 'food'.
>
> Enjoy!

Don't be so uppity. Most other nationalities have many of those
fast food places that do quite well.

They might not be your "cup of tea" but then you don't even
like a cup of tea.

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:37:38 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> > joan wrote:I'm not a drinker and I don't want
> >> >my meals served to me nor do I want to eat sitting at the bar.
> >>
> >> You don't want your meals served to you? You only want a buffet
> >> situation where you get up and get everything yourself?
> >
> >My favorite restaurants have always been the family style
> >buffet places.
>
> The stingy overeaters there turn me off buffet places. People who go
> there are so afraid they don't get value for money, they'll eat 3
> times what they'd normally eat, until they can barely walk and you can
> see in their faces that the food is coming back up.

You're too uppity for your own good.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 07:45:03 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:37:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> And for those unfamiliar with White Castle?
>> >
>> >Very small hamburgers. AKA "sliders" now.
>> >
>> >The only time I went to one was when working in Norfolk
>> >and there was one nearby. Everyone said, "Yeah, yeah,
>> >let's go to White Castle for lunch."
>> >
>> >I had never heard of that place but when I asked, I was
>> >told "the best hamburgers ever!" So ok...I'm in.
>> >
>> >We all went in and ordered then took our food out to
>> >the van to eat. When it was my time to order, the menu
>> >said Hamburgers for so much each or get 6 hamburgers
>> >for this much.
>> >
>> >My thought: Who the hell wants to eat 6 hamburgers for
>> >lunch??? So I ordered 2 singles.
>> >
>> >When I got out and opened my bag, I saw how small they
>> >were. WTF? No wonder they sell 6-paks of them.
>> >
>> >Live and learn.
>>
>> I bet the American food newsgroup is the only food group where people
>> can have a lively, in-depth discussion about their various fast food
>> joints. Most other nationalities don't consider that stuff 'food'.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>
>Don't be so uppity. Most other nationalities have many of those
>fast food places that do quite well.

Certainly, but you won't see those people in food forums, generally
speaking.

>They might not be your "cup of tea" but then you don't even
>like a cup of tea.

At least I'm consistent.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 07:47:00 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:37:38 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > joan wrote:I'm not a drinker and I don't want
>> >> >my meals served to me nor do I want to eat sitting at the bar.
>> >>
>> >> You don't want your meals served to you? You only want a buffet
>> >> situation where you get up and get everything yourself?
>> >
>> >My favorite restaurants have always been the family style
>> >buffet places.
>>
>> The stingy overeaters there turn me off buffet places. People who go
>> there are so afraid they don't get value for money, they'll eat 3
>> times what they'd normally eat, until they can barely walk and you can
>> see in their faces that the food is coming back up.
>
>You're too uppity for your own good.

I'm not uppity, I'm just not downitty.

On 2020 Aug 19, , wrote
(in >):

> I did not have gravy while at Denny's but congealed gravy at any restaurant
> would have me questioning if I want to patronize them again.

Gotta whisk it a little with more milk. Even I know that.

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 12:06:02 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Aug 19, , wrote
> (in >):
>
> > I did not have gravy while at Denny's but congealed gravy at any restaurant
> > would have me questioning if I want to patronize them again.
>
> Gotta whisk it a little with more milk. Even I know that.

Even I know that too. Denny's uses a institutional sized bag of gravy mix to make their slop. The gravy was probably sitting around for hours. To serve, the "cook" probably just stirred it with the ladle and dished it out. Adding a little milk was not an option because he didn't care about how the gravy was received.

I was eating some spaghetti and meatballs yesterday that my daughter bought from an "Italian" restaurant. My wife asked me what the white stuff in the meatballs was. I told her it was bread crumbs and that the meat was not mixed enough because the restaurant didn't care about it enough to do a good job. That's the way things are in this town. The food service people are half dead zombies and don't care much about anything anymore.

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:06:02 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>
> On 2020 Aug 19, , wrote
> (in >):
>
> > I did not have gravy while at Denny's but congealed gravy at any restaurant
> > would have me questioning if I want to patronize them again.
>
> Gotta whisk it a little with more milk. Even I know that.
>
True. But I don't think Denny's furnishes its' customers with milk and
a whisk to thin the gravy once it is served to them.

On 2020 Aug 20, , wrote
(in >):

> True. But I don't think Denny's furnishes its' customers with milk and
> a whisk to thin the gravy once it is served to them.

I was thinking of the kitchen staff. It aint rocket science.

Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 02:54:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 5:47:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 07:09:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 9:41:42 AM UTC-4, jmcquown
> wrote: >> > >> On 8/14/2020 10:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > >> > On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 9:31:44 AM UTC-4, graham
> wrote: >> > >> >> On 2020-08-14 6:54 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > >> >>> On 2020-08-14 12:02 a.m., graham wrote:
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>>> I do not diss Denny's BTW. If you just wanted a simple
> fast >> > fix, they >> >>>>> worked. Don likes their cheeseburger
> plate. I >> > like the simple >> >>>>> breaskfast plates. Not Haute
> cuisine, but >> > then you do not go to >> >>>>> Denny's for that.
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>> You won't find S&P on the table at a high-end
> restaurant! >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> They seem to prefer to have a server come around with a
> huge >> > spectacle >> >>> of a pepper grinder.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Not in a high end restaurant!!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > We're probably starting to tie our shoelaces together over
> what >> > a high-end >> > restaurant is. Some of us are probably
> thinking >> > "expensive" while others >> > are thinking "Classic
> French, four- or >> > five-star". The two sets are >> > not
> identical. You can spend a >> > stupid amount of money at one of
> those >> > American steakhouses >> > where everything is a la carte
> and the food is >> > no better than >> > you could have at home (if
> you had a source for Prime beef). >> > >> > >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> Don't get me started on a la carte. Once upon a time I won a
> $100 >> > gift >> certificate for Ruth's Chris Steak House. (Sorry,
> $10 is >> > waaaay too much >> for a baked potato, I don't care what
> you "load >> > it" with. Ditto $11 for >> shoestring fries to go with
> the >> > ridiculously priced petite filet.) As >> to Sheldon's
> ill-informed >> > notion of "packets" of salad dressing, of >> course
> not. >> > >>
> >> > >> Jill
> >> > >
> >> > > What's their other famous side dish? Creamed spinach? Anybody
> >> > > can make that.
> >> > >
> >> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >> > My favorite creamed spinach was from Horn And Hardart... now I
> make my >> > own from home grown Swiss chard or from frozen spinach.
> Actually I >> > considered Horn And Hardart a top drawer restaurant.
> At one time >> > there were several cafeteria style eateries in NYC
> that put any of >> > todays high priced eateries to shame; Garfields
> served fantastic food >> > at reasonable cost.
> >>
> >> Smile, high end is a matter of how we define it individually.
> >
> > No, it doesn't. Although I recognize that excellent food
> > (especially ethnic) can be had at modest eateries, high end always
> > means expensive and fancy. Like this place in VA Beach:
> >
> > <https://www.terrapinvb.com/>
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> A terrapin is a turtle.

Duh. It's also a name of a decent place to eat at here.

Not our fanciest by far, but not bad.

Gary wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Bruce wrote:
> > > We have to drive 25 minutes for takeout. And 25 back of course.
> > > Across roads with bad potholes and wildlife, especially from dusk
> > > till dawn. If we lived in town, then yes, take-out and delivery.
> >
> > Fair enough. But Gary wouldn't have to go anywhere near 25 miles.
> > He probably could get a bunch of different things delivered.
>
> Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> way less than 3 miles.
>
> This is the tourist area...we've got it all.

Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!

Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:51:26 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:51:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >>> ...
> > > >
> >>> The locals here love to go to restaurants. A lot of people don't
> >>> have time to cook and it's great being able to get out of our tiny
> >>> grass shack and sit with the clan. We don't often to go to fancy
> >>> restaurants. Mostly, that's for tourists. We took our dad for his
> >>> birthday at a fancy Waikiki restaurant. That was a pretty good
> >>> idea.
> > > >
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVPliErGi8
> > > >
> >>> =====
> > > >
> >>> Have you tried that beer??
> > >
> > > I did not try it but it seems like of silly to me. I suppose it's
> > > a lot of fun though. It's the opposite of your beer - light and
> > > really cold.
> > >
> > > We've been watching some Brit TV and in a couple of them, the home
> > > owner says "would you like a cup of coffee?" What the heck is that
> > > about?
> > >
> > > In some of the programs, people will speak Welsh. That's like
> > > Hawaii where the young people are taking to speaking Hawaiian.
> > > That's interesting.
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > What is strange about asking a visitor if they would like a cup of
> > > coffee??
> >
> > dsi1 assumes you drink only tea I suspect.
>
> Cultural stereotyping!
>
> > He probably assumes Don and
> > I drink coffee because we are mainland USA folks. Smile, just go
> > with it and ignore when he gets silly instead of asking.
>
> I remember that Ophelia doesn't like tea. That makes two of us.
>
> =====
>
> True

LOL where Don and I are tea drinkers. Coffee sometimes when out or at
work. I have a coffee pot... somewhere... buried under dust bunnies...

On 8/20/2020 7:58 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Aug 20, , wrote
> (in >):
>
>> True. But I don't think Denny's furnishes its' customers with milk and
>> a whisk to thin the gravy once it is served to them.
>
> I was thinking of the kitchen staff. It aint rocket science.
>
>
No, it isn't rocket science. Once it hits the table, though, most
people aren't likely to send it back and ask the staff to stir in a
little more milk.

I did once send back country fried steak with milk gravy at a Shoney's
restaurant in Memphis because they had sprinkled waaaay too much course
ground black pepper on the gravy on the country fried steak. I'm not
one to shy away from pepper but this was overkill. I got it back from
the kitchen with milk gravy and I added pepper to taste from the shaker
on the table.

Jill

Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> > Most Americans don't eat out but once a month if that (Hawaii might
> > be the exception per dsi1). The difference only kicks in with
> > lunch and work habits. That one might result in a drive-through
> > sort of spot as much as 5 times a week. A trucker on the road might
> > as well.
>
> Truck stops offer very very good food. Not made by chefs but by
> people that know how to cook well like in diners.
>
> People other that truckers should check one out if there
> is one nearby.

123 Truck Stop, Clemson SC (Now Paw's Diner). Menu largely the same
except the scrap soup line seems gone. Used to have 'scrap soup of the
day' for 50cents for a big bowl. Often dried bean based. Unused
veggies (never served to customers and kept food safe) would get tossed
in there. Nothing you will see on a regular 'recipe menu' ever but
very common to the era in the south.

Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > LOL, they all vary based on the manager. We have one by my local
> > choice of grocery store. once or twice a year, Don and I will stop
> > there for a simple, non-fancy meal.
>
> I've never been to a Denney's but I remember that they always
> advertised a free meal on your birthday. Do they still do that?

Yes.

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Aug 16, , cshenk wrote
> (in >):
>
> > They also have a unique American dip for your corn
> > tortillas based in a sort of white sauce that has since migrated to
> > Mexico and is very popular there. Developed here though right in my
> > area!
>
> Lemme guess? Pace Picante or another salsa with mayo or sour cream?
> It may not be, but I might try it. Thanks for the idea. Theres
> nothing in my guess that Id hate, I dont think. Stay tuned.

Nope, no tomato at all in it.

Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> > Favorite place that might be a little Al-a-cart-ish? Subway. I
> > like the ability to select what I want on my sub.
>
> Here's another good one to try, Carol.
>
> The Harris Teeter (grocery store) deli.
> Very good price and often on sale.
> On sale every Sunday (if they still do that), otherwise
> goes on sale all week occasionally.
> $3.99 for a foot long.
> Regular price is $6.99 (or 5.99)
>
> They use Boar's Head meat and cheese and offer many toppings.
> I always ask for an italian sub (which tells them what meat)
> then add all the optional ingredients...all of them.
>
> It's a feast!

Been meaning to do that one! Haven't yet. I note they have a sort of
'1 free for every 6' or something?

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-08-18 6:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Bruce wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:38:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 3:39:47 PM UTC-10,
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 8:16:53 PM UTC-5, cshenk
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah. For me, most 'frequent' fast food place is KFC.
> > > > > > > Been
> >>>there >> > twice this year. The other one this year was on the
> >>>ride to Fort Lee >> > (4 hours) and Charlotte and I stopped at
> >>>Hardees for breakfast biscuits. >> >
> > > > > > Years ago some of us would get Hardee's sausage gravy and
> >>>biscuits to go >> for our Saturday work breakfast. At the time,
> >>>it's been a good while since >> I've eaten them, their gravy and
> > > > biscuits were the best around here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have gone to Denny's to eat biscuits and gravy for
> > > > > breakfast. That kind of down home Southern fare is as rare
> > > > > as hen's teeth on da rock. The biscuits were kind of pasty
> > > > > and the gravy was kind of congealed but it was all we could
> > > > > get.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Denny's in this town has been closed for months. My guess
> > > > > is that they won't ever re-open. My guess is that half the
> > > > > restaurants in this town won't ever be back in business.
> > > >
> > > > That must apply to many countries, especially if they get a
> > > > second wave. I guess that the first wave never ended in the US,
> > > > because of Trump's mismanagement of the crisis.
> > >
> > > It's not really Trump's fault. Americans aren't lemmings that
> > > follow the leader. Look at all the social stupidity going on
> > > right now even though all the leaders are saying don't do this.
> > >
> > > The attitude is, "you can't tell me what to do. I have rights."
> > >
> > > Look at the current news....college kids. Back to school and
> > > immediately ignoring all the precautions and partying in
> > > large groups with few masks.
> >
> > Concur sort of. Many here just will NOT follow the basic rules.
> >
> > There's a lady in our local 'NextDoor' who says she has PTSD and
> > severe claustrophobia so can't wear a mask. She is outraged that a
> > store refused her entry then another escorted her out after she
> > took her mask off. I almost outraged her more by asking which
> > stores so I can shop there....
> >
>
> Yeah,, PTSD... was she subjected to an artillery barrage or held
> hostage by a bunch of cannibals who threatened to eat her? I am
> getting more than a little tired of people claiming to be suffereing
> from a disorder that started off dealing with people who had suffered
> neurological damage from being subjected to the concussive force of
> explosions when they were really just homesick.

PTSD can be real, but I agree. It is over diagnosed.

What is our main hurricane prep done also at New Year amd 4th of July?
We clear under the coffee table. It's a BIG ASS one that can seat 8
easy in Japan type eating with lots of center room. Under it, Don and I
can rest with pillows.

It's been 52 years since VietNam and 30+ since Beruit. He hasn't
dragged me under there in a long time, but it's there and there for a
reason. He knows it's there and that helps him stay steady.

This local lady has no real PTSD in my way of understanding it, having
dealt with it.

Today, PTSD is a 'golden ticket' for disability but if diagnosed in
Vietnam, all doors are closed. Don gets 10% of his retirement pay tax
free. It works out to an extra 15$ a month.

Our 'silver ticket'? Don has a (classified reasons) Silver Star. VA
loan was free. It won't show on searches because the citation was
classified.

Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Hampton Roads area is spiking badly. It's the 30 and under crowd.
> > Secondary spike starting from their older relatives. Sigh...They
> > just refused our bases from going to HPCON B, we are at HPCON C
> > still.
> >
> > The only thing keeping us out of the news is our military have a
> > quite lower incidence and we have a LOT of them as you'd expect
> > with the largest Naval base in the world (not just USA, largest
> > period) and many other commands of all branches. Difference? They
> > wear masks. Even if they have a quiet party, they are in a mask.
> > If they go to a store, they are in a mask. If they PT, they are in
> > a mask (allowed to reduce it to around the neck if solo running and
> > staying away from others but if another runner comes near, mask up).
>
> Somebody should let the news media know about the low incidence
> of
> Covid in the military and WHY.
>
> Maybe those statistics would convince the difficult ones to wear
> a mask.

They have. It's not 'shocking news' that if you and your buddies wear
a mask, you and your buddies are safer.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 21:36:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>PTSD can be real, but I agree. It is over diagnosed.
>
>What is our main hurricane prep done also at New Year amd 4th of July?
>We clear under the coffee table. It's a BIG ASS one that can seat 8
>easy in Japan type eating with lots of center room. Under it, Don and I
>can rest with pillows.

When I read cshenkie's posts, sometimes it feels like I don't know any
English.

>It's been 52 years since VietNam and 30+ since Beruit. He hasn't
>dragged me under there in a long time, but it's there and there for a
>reason. He knows it's there and that helps him stay steady.

If I understand correctly, her husband has PTSD and sometimes drags
her under the coffee table?

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 8:22:34 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 02:54:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 5:47:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > >> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 07:09:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 9:41:42 AM UTC-4, jmcquown
> > wrote: >> > >> On 8/14/2020 10:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >> > >> > On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 9:31:44 AM UTC-4, graham
> > wrote: >> > >> >> On 2020-08-14 6:54 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> On 2020-08-14 12:02 a.m., graham wrote:
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>>>> I do not diss Denny's BTW. If you just wanted a simple
> > fast >> > fix, they >> >>>>> worked. Don likes their cheeseburger
> > plate. I >> > like the simple >> >>>>> breaskfast plates. Not Haute
> > cuisine, but >> > then you do not go to >> >>>>> Denny's for that.
> > >> > >> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>>> You won't find S&P on the table at a high-end
> > restaurant! >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> They seem to prefer to have a server come around with a
> > huge >> > spectacle >> >>> of a pepper grinder.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Not in a high end restaurant!!
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > We're probably starting to tie our shoelaces together over
> > what >> > a high-end >> > restaurant is. Some of us are probably
> > thinking >> > "expensive" while others >> > are thinking "Classic
> > French, four- or >> > five-star". The two sets are >> > not
> > identical. You can spend a >> > stupid amount of money at one of
> > those >> > American steakhouses >> > where everything is a la carte
> > and the food is >> > no better than >> > you could have at home (if
> > you had a source for Prime beef). >> > >> > >> > Cindy Hamilton
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> Don't get me started on a la carte. Once upon a time I won a
> > $100 >> > gift >> certificate for Ruth's Chris Steak House. (Sorry,
> > $10 is >> > waaaay too much >> for a baked potato, I don't care what
> > you "load >> > it" with. Ditto $11 for >> shoestring fries to go with
> > the >> > ridiculously priced petite filet.) As >> to Sheldon's
> > ill-informed >> > notion of "packets" of salad dressing, of >> course
> > not. >> > >>
> > >> > >> Jill
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What's their other famous side dish? Creamed spinach? Anybody
> > >> > > can make that.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >> >
> > >> > My favorite creamed spinach was from Horn And Hardart... now I
> > make my >> > own from home grown Swiss chard or from frozen spinach.
> > Actually I >> > considered Horn And Hardart a top drawer restaurant.
> > At one time >> > there were several cafeteria style eateries in NYC
> > that put any of >> > todays high priced eateries to shame; Garfields
> > served fantastic food >> > at reasonable cost.
> > >>
> > >> Smile, high end is a matter of how we define it individually.
> > >
> > > No, it doesn't. Although I recognize that excellent food
> > > (especially ethnic) can be had at modest eateries, high end always
> > > means expensive and fancy. Like this place in VA Beach:
> > >
> > > <https://www.terrapinvb.com/>
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > A terrapin is a turtle.
>
> Duh. It's also a name of a decent place to eat at here.
>
> Not our fanciest by far, but not bad.

Not being familiar with your town, it was the first one I found that looked fancy and wasn't
just a steakhouse.

Cindy Hamilton

cshenk wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> > way less than 3 miles.
> >
> > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>
> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!

Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
It's a medium priced restaurant.

Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
ride my bicycle.

As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
and dinner times.

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 21:36:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >PTSD can be real, but I agree. It is over diagnosed.
> >
> >What is our main hurricane prep done also at New Year amd 4th of July?
> >We clear under the coffee table. It's a BIG ASS one that can seat 8
> >easy in Japan type eating with lots of center room. Under it, Don and I
> >can rest with pillows.
>
> When I read cshenkie's posts, sometimes it feels like I don't know any
> English.
>
> >It's been 52 years since VietNam and 30+ since Beruit. He hasn't
> >dragged me under there in a long time, but it's there and there for a
> >reason. He knows it's there and that helps him stay steady.
>
> If I understand correctly, her husband has PTSD and sometimes drags
> her under the coffee table?

Sounds right. He doesn't like hurricanes...and the normal season
is almost upon us. But also doesn't like any explosion sounds
like
New Years or 4th of July. Probably thunderstorms too.

Very real threat to him (based on his past memories of a war)

I worked with a guy that would get underneath his bed during
thunderstorms.

I also had one ferret that was terrified from thunder.
If I was home, I'd hold and comfort him. I felt bad when I
was at work during a thunderstorm and not there for him.

oh well.

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> > > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> > > way less than 3 miles.
> > >
> > > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
> >
> > Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
> Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
> Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
> It's a medium priced restaurant.
>
> Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
> ride my bicycle.
>
> As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
> never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
> and dinner times.

Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary wrote:
> > > > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> > > > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> > > > way less than 3 miles.
> > > >
> > > > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
> > >
> > > Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
> > Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
> > Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
> > It's a medium priced restaurant.
> >
> > Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
> > ride my bicycle.
> >
> > As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
> > never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
> > and dinner times.
>
> Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
> Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.

As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
table. I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
friendly and welcoming.

Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.

As I've mentioned too...they are featured on an episode
of "Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives" but I've yet to see
that. It's been several years now since they did that.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:51:26 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 8:51:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >>> ...
> > > >
> >>> The locals here love to go to restaurants. A lot of people don't
> >>> have time to cook and it's great being able to get out of our tiny
> >>> grass shack and sit with the clan. We don't often to go to fancy
> >>> restaurants. Mostly, that's for tourists. We took our dad for his
> >>> birthday at a fancy Waikiki restaurant. That was a pretty good
> >>> idea.
> > > >
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVPliErGi8
> > > >
> >>> =====
> > > >
> >>> Have you tried that beer??
> > >
> > > I did not try it but it seems like of silly to me. I suppose it's
> > > a lot of fun though. It's the opposite of your beer - light and
> > > really cold.
> > >
> > > We've been watching some Brit TV and in a couple of them, the home
> > > owner says "would you like a cup of coffee?" What the heck is that
> > > about?
> > >
> > > In some of the programs, people will speak Welsh. That's like
> > > Hawaii where the young people are taking to speaking Hawaiian.
> > > That's interesting.
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > What is strange about asking a visitor if they would like a cup of
> > > coffee??
> >
> > dsi1 assumes you drink only tea I suspect.
>
> Cultural stereotyping!
>
> > He probably assumes Don and
> > I drink coffee because we are mainland USA folks. Smile, just go
> > with it and ignore when he gets silly instead of asking.
>
> I remember that Ophelia doesn't like tea. That makes two of us.
>
> =====
>
> True

LOL where Don and I are tea drinkers. Coffee sometimes when out or at
work. I have a coffee pot... somewhere... buried under dust bunnies...

===

D. loves his coffee every morning but these days, I am mostly drinking
water!

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:23:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>> > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>> > way less than 3 miles.
>> >
>> > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>>
>> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>
>Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>It's a medium priced restaurant.
>
>Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>ride my bicycle.
>
>As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>and dinner times.

sounds like they are waiting for a lawsuit and a mention on the local
social media

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 10:35:20 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > cshenk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> > > > > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> > > > > way less than 3 miles.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
> > > >
> > > > Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
> > > Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
> > > Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
> > > It's a medium priced restaurant.
> > >
> > > Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
> > > ride my bicycle.
> > >
> > > As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
> > > never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
> > > and dinner times.
> >
> > Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
> > Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
> they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.
>
> As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
> and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
> table.

How do you know that? Have you asked them? Or are you
assuming?

> I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
> friendly and welcoming.
>
> Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.

That wouldn't work for me. I won't sit at the bar because the chairs
are always uncomfortable and I won't share a table with strangers.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:14:50 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary wrote:
> > > > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> > > > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> > > > way less than 3 miles.
> > > >
> > > > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
> > >
> > > Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
> > Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
> > Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
> > It's a medium priced restaurant.
> >
> > Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
> > ride my bicycle.
> >
> > As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
> > never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
> > and dinner times.
>
> Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
> Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

The great thing about owning a small business is that you can run things according to how you feel you should - not how other people or stock holders want you to. Shopsin's General Store had a firm policy against seating tables of 5. Perhaps they still do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSmozQIE-g&t=1505

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:23:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >cshenk wrote:
> >>
> >> Gary wrote:
> >> > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
> >> > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
> >> > way less than 3 miles.
> >> >
> >> > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
> >>
> >> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
> >
> >Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
> >Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
> >It's a medium priced restaurant.
> >
> >Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
> >ride my bicycle.
> >
> >As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
> >never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
> >and dinner times.
> sounds like they are waiting for a lawsuit and a mention on the local
> social media

No, it sounds like Gary is making assumptions.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/21/2020 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 10:35:20 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>>>>>> drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>>>>>> way less than 3 miles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>>>> Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>>>> Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>>>> It's a medium priced restaurant.
>>>>
>>>> Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>>>> ride my bicycle.
>>>>
>>>> As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>>>> never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>>>> and dinner times.
>>>
>>> Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
>>> Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
>> they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.
>>
>> As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
>> and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
>> table.
>
> How do you know that? Have you asked them? Or are you
> assuming?
>
>> I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
>> friendly and welcoming.
>>
>> Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.
>
> That wouldn't work for me. I won't sit at the bar because the chairs
> are always uncomfortable and I won't share a table with strangers.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I don't like sitting at the bar because there is inevitably a "lip" (for
lack of a better word" around the edge of a bar that simply isn't
comfortable when trying to eat a meal. As for sitting with strangers, I
doubt I'd like that, either. (An exception would be a Japanese
teppanyaki grill where the chef cooks right at the table.) The bistro
where I went alone on my lunch hour wasn't a big place, either, but they
seated me at a two-top. The place was called 'Jarrett's'. Looking
online, it appears they closed their doors back in 2010. That's a shame
because it was a nice place and the food was excellent.

Jill

On 8/21/2020 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:23:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>>>>> drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>>>>> way less than 3 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>>>>
>>>> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>>>
>>> Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>>> Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>>> It's a medium priced restaurant.
>>>
>>> Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>>> ride my bicycle.
>>>
>>> As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>>> never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>>> and dinner times.
>> sounds like they are waiting for a lawsuit and a mention on the local
>> social media
>
> No, it sounds like Gary is making assumptions.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Sounds like he's saying they're too busy and too small to accommodate a
"single" diner. Or does it mean they wouldn't let Gary in unless he ate
at the bar or agreed to be seated with strangers? IMHO, no smart
restaurant manager should ever turn away a paying customer.

Jill

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 10:35:20 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> > > cshenk wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Gary wrote:
>> > > > > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>> > > > > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>> > > > > way less than 3 miles.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>> > > >
>> > > > Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>> > > Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>> > > Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>> > > It's a medium priced restaurant.
>> > >
>> > > Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>> > > ride my bicycle.
>> > >
>> > > As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>> > > never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>> > > and dinner times.
>> >
>> > Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
>> > Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
>> they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.
>>
>> As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
>> and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
>> table.
>
>How do you know that? Have you asked them? Or are you
>assuming?
>
>> I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
>> friendly and welcoming.
>>
>> Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.
>
>That wouldn't work for me. I won't sit at the bar because the chairs
>are always uncomfortable and I won't share a table with strangers.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

In my experience all things being equal bar seating is much more
comfortable than chairs at a table... I usually find chair and table
height are too low and chairs are too close together so as to squeeze
more people in... chair seats are typically unaphulstered and if the
chair has arms it's like being squeezed in a vice... it's like they
assume that every patron is the same size. Booths are worse, the
seats are always too close to the table, like they assume everyone
weighs 90 pounds or less. Most restaurant table seating is tantamont
to tourist class airline seating. Bar seating is always comfortable
as they don't want the drinkers to leave. Even the lighting at a bar
is much better than at the tables... and bar tenders are far better at
caring for patrons than waitstaff. Often I'd have reservations and
have a drink at the bar before my table was ready and I'd decide to
have dinner at the bar rather than the more crowded noisy dining area.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:23:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >cshenk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gary wrote:
>> >> > Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>> >> > drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>> >> > way less than 3 miles.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>> >>
>> >> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>> >
>> >Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>> >Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>> >It's a medium priced restaurant.
>> >
>> >Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>> >ride my bicycle.
>> >
>> >As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>> >never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>> >and dinner times.
>> sounds like they are waiting for a lawsuit and a mention on the local
>> social media
>
>No, it sounds like Gary is making assumptions.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Actually most popular restaurants insist on reservations, and now with
the virus one needs reservations for a haircut, a manicure, or to pee.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 13:40:01 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/21/2020 12:58 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:23:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>>>>>> drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>>>>>> way less than 3 miles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>>>>
>>>> Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>>>> Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>>>> It's a medium priced restaurant.
>>>>
>>>> Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>>>> ride my bicycle.
>>>>
>>>> As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>>>> never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>>>> and dinner times.
>>> sounds like they are waiting for a lawsuit and a mention on the local
>>> social media
>>
>> No, it sounds like Gary is making assumptions.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>Sounds like he's saying they're too busy and too small to accommodate a
>"single" diner. Or does it mean they wouldn't let Gary in unless he ate
>at the bar or agreed to be seated with strangers? IMHO, no smart
>restaurant manager should ever turn away a paying customer.
>
>Jill

Very few restaurants would give up a table for four for a single
patron... especially not for Gary who looks like in his white bib
painter's coveralls he'd likely not spend more than $1.49 on a big
mac, and has a coupon for free fries and would glom a dozen packets of
ketchup. hehehe

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 10:35:20 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>>>>>>> drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>>>>>>> way less than 3 miles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>>>>> Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>>>>> Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>>>>> It's a medium priced restaurant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>>>>> ride my bicycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>>>>> never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>>>>> and dinner times.
>>>>
>>>> Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
>>>> Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>> They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
>>> they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.
>>>
>>> As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
>>> and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
>>> table.
>>
>> How do you know that? Have you asked them? Or are you
>> assuming?
>>
>>> I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
>>> friendly and welcoming.
>>>
>>> Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.
>>
>> That wouldn't work for me. I won't sit at the bar because the chairs
>> are always uncomfortable and I won't share a table with strangers.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> In my experience all things being equal bar seating is much more
> comfortable than chairs at a table... I usually find chair and table
> height are too low and chairs are too close together so as to squeeze
> more people in... chair seats are typically unaphulstered and if the
> chair has arms it's like being squeezed in a vice... it's like they
> assume that every patron is the same size. Booths are worse, the
> seats are always too close to the table, like they assume everyone
> weighs 90 pounds or less. Most restaurant table seating is tantamont
> to tourist class airline seating. Bar seating is always comfortable
> as they don't want the drinkers to leave. Even the lighting at a bar
> is much better than at the tables... and bar tenders are far better at
> caring for patrons than waitstaff. Often I'd have reservations and
> have a drink at the bar before my table was ready and I'd decide to
> have dinner at the bar rather than the more crowded noisy dining area.
>

Popeye, the bar is also lots closer to the crystal palace.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:24:24 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 21:36:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> >PTSD can be real, but I agree. It is over diagnosed.
>> >
>> >What is our main hurricane prep done also at New Year amd 4th of July?
>> >We clear under the coffee table. It's a BIG ASS one that can seat 8
>> >easy in Japan type eating with lots of center room. Under it, Don and I
>> >can rest with pillows.
>>
>> When I read cshenkie's posts, sometimes it feels like I don't know any
>> English.
>>
>> >It's been 52 years since VietNam and 30+ since Beruit. He hasn't
>> >dragged me under there in a long time, but it's there and there for a
>> >reason. He knows it's there and that helps him stay steady.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, her husband has PTSD and sometimes drags
>> her under the coffee table?
>
>Sounds right. He doesn't like hurricanes...and the normal season
>is almost upon us. But also doesn't like any explosion sounds
>like
>New Years or 4th of July. Probably thunderstorms too.
>
>Very real threat to him (based on his past memories of a war)
>
>I worked with a guy that would get underneath his bed during
>thunderstorms.
>
>I also had one ferret that was terrified from thunder.
>If I was home, I'd hold and comfort him. I felt bad when I
>was at work during a thunderstorm and not there for him.
>
>oh well.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if I had decoded it correctly.

On 8/21/2020 1:48 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 10:35:20 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:23:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> Very true. Just about anything I'd want delivered or just
>>>>>>> drive there for pickup is all within 3 miles here. Most are
>>>>>>> way less than 3 miles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the tourist area...we've got it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grin, walking distance likely for you to many places!
>>>>> Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
>>>>> Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
>>>>> It's a medium priced restaurant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only about 1/4 mile from me. Even for that one, I'll
>>>>> ride my bicycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
>>>>> never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
>>>>> and dinner times.
>>>>
>>>> Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
>>>> Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>> They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
>>> they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.
>>>
>>> As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
>>> and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
>>> table.
>>
>> How do you know that? Have you asked them? Or are you
>> assuming?
>>
>>> I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
>>> friendly and welcoming.
>>>
>>> Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.
>>
>> That wouldn't work for me. I won't sit at the bar because the chairs
>> are always uncomfortable and I won't share a table with strangers.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> In my experience all things being equal bar seating is much more
> comfortable than chairs at a table... I usually find chair and table
> height are too low and chairs are too close together so as to squeeze
> more people in...

These days with "social distancing" I doubt many restaurants have tables
very close together.

> chair seats are typically unaphulstered and if the
> chair has arms it's like being squeezed in a vice... it's like they
> assume that every patron is the same size. Booths are worse, the
> seats are always too close to the table, like they assume everyone
> weighs 90 pounds or less.

The reason many restaurants have un-upholstered chairs is because of
spillage. It's much easier for the server or the bus-person to wipe
crumbs and other spilled stuff off a wooden seat than it is upholstery.
Upholstered chairs would eventually become a haven for germs. As for a
booth, having worked in restaurants I can tell you the table probably
isn't bolted to the floor. You can move it if your huge gut requires
more room.

> Most restaurant table seating is tantamont
> to tourist class airline seating. Bar seating is always comfortable
(snippage)

Not in my experience. I'm 5'3" and most bar stools are tall. The bar
itself is usually set too high (for me, at least) to eat comfortably
because that's not what the bar is intended for. IME, even bar areas of
restaurants also offer table seating.

Jill

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > Only one within walking distance is "Beach Pub"
> > > Very popular locals restaurant with excellent food.
> > > It's a medium priced restaurant.
> > >
> > > As it's very popular and not large, Jill and/or Joan would
> > > never get a table for one there during breakfast, lunch,
> > > and dinner times.
> >
> > Really? They would refuse to seat a single diner at a table?
> > Their website seemed so friendly and welcoming.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
Yeah, I'd like to know if Gary knows for certain that single diners
would be turned away? He knows this from experience or just guessing
because the place is small?
>
> They do have a small bar off the dining area. During busy times
> they might seat you there. Not many drinkers-only there.
>
> As I said, it's popular but small dining area. During the lunch
> and dinner rush times, they wouldn't want a single taking a
> table. I have no idea though, how they handle that. They are
> friendly and welcoming.
>
I'm having a hard time accepting a small restaurant would turn away a
single diner because, horror of horrors, they're using a whole table
just for themselves. I don't know of any eating establishment that
turns away paying customers because there will not be two sitting down
to put on the feed bag.
>
> Perhaps they would seat a few singles at a larger table.
>
Gary, check this out. I want facts, not just your supposition because
it is a small place. Get back to us as soon as possible. Hop to it.