On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:36:56 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:07:10 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> Sqwerzts, one uses a cooker so as not to spend time watching the
>> clock or setting a timer, etc.
>
>You still have to set something on the cooker telling it how you
>want your eggs cooked. So you still set a timer of some sort. if
>it only does hard boiled, then its even more useless.
>
>I gave up gadgets long ago. Actually, I never really started them.
>I learned from my mother. I'd rather know how to cook using
>universal equipment than being tied to some gadget that won't be
>available in many situations.
>
>-sw

If you go back and look at my original post I only asked what size
eggs they used. I was curious about that because I had no idea how
they worked.
Janet US

On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 12:25:04 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:36:56 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:07:10 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwerzts, one uses a cooker so as not to spend time watching the
>>> clock or setting a timer, etc.
>>
>>You still have to set something on the cooker telling it how you
>>want your eggs cooked. So you still set a timer of some sort. if
>>it only does hard boiled, then its even more useless.
>>
>>I gave up gadgets long ago. Actually, I never really started them.
>>I learned from my mother. I'd rather know how to cook using
>>universal equipment than being tied to some gadget that won't be
>>available in many situations.
>>
>>-sw
>
>If you go back and look at my original post I only asked what size
>eggs they used. I was curious about that because I had no idea how
>they worked.
>Janet US

That's idiocy... in a carton of a dozen large eggs all will be a
slightly different size/weight, no two will be exactly alike.
Each egg cooker will cook at slightly different times, even the same
brand and model... with a new appliance it's a no-brainer to
experiment... learning an egg cooker is no different from learning a
microwave oven. Times given in the users manual are at best
estimates. And your Voltage varies at different times during the day.
In some areas Voltage varies substantially. especially when everyone
is home preparing breakfast and again when people arrive home from
work and are turning on electric appliances. My APC battery back up
has a Voltage meter on at all times, Voltage will normally be 120
Volts but there are 5 Volt swings often, swings between 115 Volts and
125 Volts.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:09:20 -0500, wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 12:25:04 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:36:56 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:07:10 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sqwerzts, one uses a cooker so as not to spend time watching the
>>>> clock or setting a timer, etc.
>>>
>>>You still have to set something on the cooker telling it how you
>>>want your eggs cooked. So you still set a timer of some sort. if
>>>it only does hard boiled, then its even more useless.
>>>
>>>I gave up gadgets long ago. Actually, I never really started them.
>>>I learned from my mother. I'd rather know how to cook using
>>>universal equipment than being tied to some gadget that won't be
>>>available in many situations.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>>If you go back and look at my original post I only asked what size
>>eggs they used. I was curious about that because I had no idea how
>>they worked.
>>Janet US
>
>That's idiocy... in a carton of a dozen large eggs all will be a
>slightly different size/weight, no two will be exactly alike.
>Each egg cooker will cook at slightly different times, even the same
>brand and model... with a new appliance it's a no-brainer to
>experiment... learning an egg cooker is no different from learning a
>microwave oven. Times given in the users manual are at best
>estimates. And your Voltage varies at different times during the day.
>In some areas Voltage varies substantially. especially when everyone
>is home preparing breakfast and again when people arrive home from
>work and are turning on electric appliances. My APC battery back up
>has a Voltage meter on at all times, Voltage will normally be 120
>Volts but there are 5 Volt swings often, swings between 115 Volts and
>125 Volts.

You forgot to mention how fast the earth spins where I live. If we
apply your logic, there is no point in sizing anything. After all,
not all size 10 men's shoes manufactured by the same manufacturer will
be the same size on any given day nor will they fit the same men the
same way every day.
Janet US

On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:09:20 -0500, wrote:

> My APC battery back up
> has a Voltage meter on at all times, Voltage will normally be 120
> Volts but there are 5 Volt swings often, swings between 115 Volts and
> 125 Volts.

You have shitty electric service and a shitty UPS meter. I have a
transformer in my yard (everybody here has half a transformer in
their yard). I consistently get 117/234, rain, wind, show, and
gloom of night. Which is what your lines should read.

ObFood: Found a good brand of refried beans. Bean and cheese tacos
for dinner.

-sw

On 1/7/2019 10:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:09:20 -0500, wrote:
>
>> My APC battery back up
>> has a Voltage meter on at all times, Voltage will normally be 120
>> Volts but there are 5 Volt swings often, swings between 115 Volts and
>> 125 Volts.
>
> You have shitty electric service and a shitty UPS meter. I have a
> transformer in my yard (everybody here has half a transformer in
> their yard). I consistently get 117/234, rain, wind, show, and
> gloom of night. Which is what your lines should read.

A dozen years back I was losing light bulbs in the bathroom in the
morning. I put a meter on it and got 160 volts. Seems like a substation
two miles from me was cranking up in the morning in anticipation of a
few factories starting up and they caused the over voltage. Never
happened again once I notified them.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 23:17:53 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 1/7/2019 10:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:09:20 -0500, wrote:
>>
>>> My APC battery back up
>>> has a Voltage meter on at all times, Voltage will normally be 120
>>> Volts but there are 5 Volt swings often, swings between 115 Volts and
>>> 125 Volts.
>>
>> You have shitty electric service and a shitty UPS meter. I have a
>> transformer in my yard (everybody here has half a transformer in
>> their yard). I consistently get 117/234, rain, wind, show, and
>> gloom of night. Which is what your lines should read.
>
> A dozen years back I was losing light bulbs in the bathroom in the
> morning. I put a meter on it and got 160 volts. Seems like a substation
> two miles from me was cranking up in the morning in anticipation of a
> few factories starting up and they caused the over voltage. Never
> happened again once I notified them.

That's what the neighborhood transformers (on the poles or in the
yards) are for - stepping down the supplied high voltages to useful
household voltages. They should always output fairly consistent
voltages and amps regardless of the intake voltages/amps - except in
the case of large sudden power spikes.

I guess in that first second or so they could still fail to adjust
quick enough to blow out some bulbs. But transformers are usually
better than that these days. But factories need more amps rather
than higher voltages <shrug>

-sw

On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 12:25:04 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:36:56 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 21:07:10 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwerzts, one uses a cooker so as not to spend time watching the
>>> clock or setting a timer, etc.
>>
>>You still have to set something on the cooker telling it how you
>>want your eggs cooked. So you still set a timer of some sort. if
>>it only does hard boiled, then its even more useless.
>>
>>I gave up gadgets long ago. Actually, I never really started them.
>>I learned from my mother. I'd rather know how to cook using
>>universal equipment than being tied to some gadget that won't be
>>available in many situations.
>
> If you go back and look at my original post I only asked what size
> eggs they used. I was curious about that because I had no idea how
> they worked.
> Janet US

That's fine. I'm arguing with Nancy now. It's my duty to rid the
world of useless cooking gadgets (as I see them) ;-)

-sw