Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 12/3/2018 8:04 AM, GM wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >> If you do excel at some particular task, the best way to get
> >> satisfaction from it is not to brag, but to use it to help someone that
> >> will benefit from your use of it.
> >
> >
> > Wise words, I am going to frame that and hang it on the wall...
> >
> >
> Thank you !


I teach job - readiness skills (referred to as "soft skills", or my preferred term "life skills") and I am always harping on the "gratitude should be the attitude" thing, so I will present your wise words as an "Ed - ism"...

;-)

--
Best
Greg

On 12/3/2018 12:22 PM, graham wrote:


>>
> We have 2 systems here, public and separate (Catholic) and unfortunately
> it's in the AB Constitution so we are stuck with it. The papist bishop
> wouldn't allow the schools to have the pupils jabbed for HPV but I think
> that has been overcome now. Ironically, the separate system is much
> better run than the public one.

Not a surprise to me. In Philadelphia, the public school system was in
the bottom ten in the country, the Catholic school system was in the top
five.

Two reasons:
1. Public schools had to take you, Catholic schools could kick you out
2. Discipline.

Our high school football team was terrible but the local public school
team was very good. Many of the players were dropouts from our school.

On 2018-12-03 2:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/3/2018 12:22 PM, graham wrote:

> Not a surprise to me.Â* In Philadelphia, the public school system was in
> the bottom ten in the country, the Catholic school system was in the top
> five.
>
> Two reasons:
> 1. Public schools had to take you, Catholic schools could kick you out
> 2. Discipline.

It was the same here for a long time. My wife used to work in a "school
for the trainably mentally retarded" in the days when mentally retarded
was a perfectly acceptable term. A lot of her students were Catholic
because the separate school system did not have any programs for them.
Later on she did special education in regular schools and had a lot of
Catholic students because the Catholic board still didn't cater to
special needs. They prided themselves in their higher rankings but
simply didn't take a lot of the low end students.


> Our high school football team was terrible but the local public school
> team was very good.Â* Many of the players were dropouts from our school.

Our experience was the opposite. The RC highs chool was just down the
road from my public high school. We were the best of the public school,
but the Catholic team was tough to beat. They took things seriously.
They would still be practicing as I was walking home after our practice
was over, and they practiced on Saturdays. I have a lot of friends who
attended Catholic schools and some who taught in them, but none of them
are practicing Catholics.

On 2018-12-03 12:14 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/3/2018 12:22 PM, graham wrote:
>
>
>>>
>> We have 2 systems here, public and separate (Catholic) and
>> unfortunately it's in the AB Constitution so we are stuck with it. The
>> papist bishop wouldn't allow the schools to have the pupils jabbed for
>> HPV but I think that has been overcome now. Ironically, the separate
>> system is much better run than the public one.
>
> Not a surprise to me.Â* In Philadelphia, the public school system was in
> the bottom ten in the country, the Catholic school system was in the top
> five.
>
> Two reasons:
> 1. Public schools had to take you, Catholic schools could kick you out
> 2. Discipline.
>
It used to be the case that Catholics HAD to send their kids to the
separate system even if they had assigned their education taxes to the
public board. Otherwise the public system would send them an invoice!
The public system here is very poorly run with a usually incompetent and
dysfunctional board of trustees.

On 2018-12-03 3:29 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-12-03 12:14 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> It used to be the case that Catholics HAD to send their kids to the
> separate system even if they had assigned their education taxes to the
> public board. Otherwise the public system would send them an invoice!
> The public system here is very poorly run with a usually incompetent and
> dysfunctional board of trustees.


One thing that used to really **** me off was the Catholics could divert
their tax money to the separate school system and send their kids to the
public system. They used to post municipal voter lists that indicated
public or separate school support. We had a couple neighbours who were
shown as being separate school supporters, but their kids went to public
schools.

On 12/2/2018 10:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 10:21:21 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 07:12:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 9:37:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 06:23:22 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You are ALL talking about Crap Food this AM!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Crap Food this, and Crap Food that!! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Any actual CHEFS in this group? I know I am one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>>>>
>>>> Please tell us you are going to coat your ego in toffee so it no
>>>> longer can speak!
>>>
>>> I never appreciated why pride was one of the seven deadly sins until
>>> Kuthe started ranting about his wonderfulness.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> At boarding school in my day, you were going to get hit if you bragged
>> about yourself or what you thought you could do better than others. It
>> would seem it was a good lesson to learn
>
> A certain amount of well-deserved self-praise is one thing. But the
> incessant self-righteousness is bound to be corrosive to his own soul.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
It's sure as hell corrosive to this newsgroup.

Jill

On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 07:29:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> A certain amount of well-deserved self-praise is one thing. But the
> incessant self-righteousness is bound to be corrosive to his own soul.

He's going to try and buy an insanity defense when he gets to Hell.

-sw

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 21:36:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 07:29:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> A certain amount of well-deserved self-praise is one thing. But the
>> incessant self-righteousness is bound to be corrosive to his own soul.
>
>He's going to try and buy an insanity defense when he gets to Hell.

But what will be your defense?

On 2018-12-03 10:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> A certain amount of well-deserved self-praise is one thing.Â* But the
>> incessant self-righteousness is bound to be corrosive to his own soul.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> It's sure as hell corrosive to this newsgroup.


Corrosion only continues when the medium is conducive. If we all
filtered or simply ignored him no one would be seeing his psychotic
rants and he would likely fade away. OTOH, he might just step it up a
notch or two to try to get more attention.

On 12/2/2018 3:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Here's a few simple things I have never mastered but tried a few times.
>
> Cottage pie (potato). I seem to always get a soggy mass of ick.

How so? Cottage pie is so simple! The mashed potatoes on top do need
to be thick so they don't sink down into the meat and vegetable gravy combo.

Jill

On 12/4/2018 10:46 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-03 10:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> A certain amount of well-deserved self-praise is one thing.Â* But the
>>> incessant self-righteousness is bound to be corrosive to his own soul.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> It's sure as hell corrosive to this newsgroup.
>
>
> Corrosion only continues when the medium is conducive. If we all
> filtered or simply ignored him no one would be seeing his psychotic
> rants and he would likely fade away. OTOH, he might just step it up a
> notch or two to try to get more attention.
>
You mean it could get worse? LOL

Jill

On 12/2/2018 10:32 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 9:21:21 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 07:12:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 9:37:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 06:23:22 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You are ALL talking about Crap Food this AM!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Crap Food this, and Crap Food that!! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Any actual CHEFS in this group? I know I am one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...
>>>>
>>>> Please tell us you are going to coat your ego in toffee so it no
>>>> longer can speak!
>>>
>>> I never appreciated why pride was one of the seven deadly sins until
>>> Kuthe started ranting about his wonderfulness.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> At boarding school in my day, you were going to get hit if you bragged
>> about yourself or what you thought you could do better than others. It
>> would seem it was a good lesson to learn
>
> Oh yeah! Working Class Hero, eh?
>
> John Kuthe...
>
As opposed to you? Pretty funny since I see nothing for you to brag about.

Jill

On 2018-12-04 11:38 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/4/2018 10:46 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>> It's sure as hell corrosive to this newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> Corrosion only continues when the medium is conducive. If we all
>> filtered or simply ignored him no one would be seeing his psychotic
>> rants and he would likely fade away. OTOH, he might just step it up a
>> notch or two to try to get more attention.
>>
> You mean it could get worse? LOL


Well, not directly. I have had that psycho filtered ever since that
stunt where he objected to an OT thread going on and posted a running
tally of the number of posts in it, which included the 50% of new ones
that were his running tally. I have also filtered some nymshifters who
were only here to poke him. It appears that some of the nymshifts exist
only to reply and quote him to get his strange rants past filters. If
it wasn't for people replying to him I would not see his psychotic
babble at all.

On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 2:23:25 PM UTC, John Kuthe wrote:
> You are ALL talking about Crap Food this AM!!
>
> Crap Food this, and Crap Food that!! :-(
>
> Any actual CHEFS in this group? I know I am one.
>
>
> John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...






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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-12-02 3:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > > If you do excel at some particular task, the best way to get
> > > satisfaction from it is not to brag, but to use it to help someone
> > > that will benefit from your use of it.
> >
> > Agreed Ed.
> >
> > Here's a few simple things I have never mastered but tried a few
> > times.
> >
> > Cottage pie (potato). I seem to always get a soggy mass of ick.
> > Pot Pie (flour crust). I seem to always get a soggy mass of ick.
>
> I am not sure I can help you there. I have been making it
> occasionally for the last few years and it always seems to turn out.
> I tend to like mashed potatoes a little on the dry side. One of the
> tricks to any any kind of meat pie is to get the sauce the right
> texture. Potatoes that are too creamy or a meat sauce that is too
> wet may be the cause.
>
> > Somewhat successful but not better than a packet- Gravy. I have
> > had a few successes (or we accept them as better than a packet).
>
>
> The first think you need is a good sized roast that has cooked long
> enough to get some nice dark fond. Pour off the drippings and skim
> the fat off to go back into the pan for gravy. Mix it with equal
> amounts of flour to make the roux. Cook it until it gets some colour
> to it. Then start adding the liquid. It sometimes helps to have some
> extra broth ready to add to it. You need to stir constantly as you
> add the liquid to the roux to avoid lumps.
>
>
> > I'm sure we all have things we are not so great at. I did once
> > nail a gravy perfectly from scratch though! Hamburger fat based.
> > It must have been an accident ;-)

Grin, we all have our trials! The pot pie is the one i would mostly
like to master but mine are just 'so-so'.

On the gravy, my failure probably relates more to low-meat eating and
that when we do, it tends to more the rare side.

I did have an idea to simply have pure fun with something crazy. Duck
fat gravy. It probably won't work too well but hey, laugh with me as I
admit I ain't good at gravies but like to play with my food a bit.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 12/2/2018 3:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Here's a few simple things I have never mastered but tried a few
> > times.
> >
> > Cottage pie (potato). I seem to always get a soggy mass of ick.
>
> How so? Cottage pie is so simple! The mashed potatoes on top do
> need to be thick so they don't sink down into the meat and vegetable
> gravy combo.
>
> Jill

Not really sure where I go wrong on it but it seems the potatoes may be
too 'wet'?

On 12/4/2018 4:24 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 12/2/2018 3:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Here's a few simple things I have never mastered but tried a few
>>> times.
>>>
>>> Cottage pie (potato). I seem to always get a soggy mass of ick.
>>
>> How so? Cottage pie is so simple! The mashed potatoes on top do
>> need to be thick so they don't sink down into the meat and vegetable
>> gravy combo.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Not really sure where I go wrong on it but it seems the potatoes may be
> too 'wet'?
>
Entirely possible. When making cottage pie I use leftover mashed
potatoes which have been refrigerated overnight.

Jill

In article >, graham >
wrote:

> We have 2 systems here, public and separate (Catholic) and unfortunately
> it's in the AB Constitution so we are stuck with it. The papist bishop
> wouldn't allow the schools to have the pupils jabbed for HPV but I think
> that has been overcome now. Ironically, the separate system is much
> better run than the public one.

There's nothing ironic about it. Institutions with either a monetary or
religious incentive always perform better than a government run one.
The key is incentive. Money and belief trump government every time. It
is always a present danger to socialists.

[ObFood] Leftover chicken, noodle and vegetable stew with bread and
butter. The whole chicken cost $3.27 which is cheap where I shop. I
just (Right now!) decided to curry the hindquarters for myself. My wife
won't touch it.

leo

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message

> [ObFood] Leftover chicken, noodle and vegetable stew with bread and
> butter. The whole chicken cost $3.27 which is cheap where I shop. I
> just (Right now!) decided to curry the hindquarters for myself. My wife
> won't touch it.
>
> leo


We had Navy Bean soup with ham, a salad, and cornbread. I bought one of
those seen on tv things for microwave brownies at the dollar store and made
a brownie recipe for it, it turned out terrible when following their cooking
instructions. Threw the whole thing out, including the brownies.

Cheri

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 3:21:19 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
....
>
> I did have an idea to simply have pure fun with something crazy. Duck
> fat gravy. It probably won't work too well but hey, laugh with me as I
> admit I ain't good at gravies but like to play with my food a bit.

And you see this is where Bryan would piped up and tell you about a time recently where he got a bunch of duck wing tips free because no one else wanted them! He'd fry them up and chew duck flavor out of them when he was Adkins Dieting!

I miss Bryan!

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

On 2018-12-04 9:22 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, graham >
> wrote:
>
>> We have 2 systems here, public and separate (Catholic) and unfortunately
>> it's in the AB Constitution so we are stuck with it. The papist bishop
>> wouldn't allow the schools to have the pupils jabbed for HPV but I think
>> that has been overcome now. Ironically, the separate system is much
>> better run than the public one.
>
> There's nothing ironic about it. Institutions with either a monetary or
> religious incentive always perform better than a government run one.
> The key is incentive. Money and belief trump government every time. It
> is always a present danger to socialists.

Around here they are basically the same, except for the religion part.
The curriculum is dictated by the province. The funding comes from
local property taxes and from the province. The funding is administered
locally by the boards, one for the public schools and one for the
Catholic Separate schools.

Then there are a number of private schools and a religious schools.
Some of them offer excellent education, and others are little more than
scams. The high school on our little village was closed years ago and
the students transferred to a newer, larger facility. A private school
bought the old building and re-opened it as a school for foreign
students. It failed miserably within months. There have been a number
of other situations like that.


>
> [ObFood] Leftover chicken, noodle and vegetable stew with bread and
> butter. The whole chicken cost $3.27 which is cheap where I shop. I
> just (Right now!) decided to curry the hindquarters for myself. My wife
> won't touch it.


My wife eats a low carb diet. I made chicken and turmeric soup with
sweet potato and chick peas. She was not thrilled by the high carb
meal, but it was so good she had seconds.

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:26:53 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
>
>> [ObFood] Leftover chicken, noodle and vegetable stew with bread and
>> butter. The whole chicken cost $3.27 which is cheap where I shop. I
>> just (Right now!) decided to curry the hindquarters for myself. My wife
>> won't touch it.
>>
>> leo
>
>
>We had Navy Bean soup with ham, a salad, and cornbread. I bought one of
>those seen on tv things for microwave brownies at the dollar store and made
>a brownie recipe for it, it turned out terrible when following their cooking
>instructions. Threw the whole thing out, including the brownies.

Ouch, no xanthan gum for Cheri!

In article >, Cheri >
wrote:

> We had Navy Bean soup with ham, a salad, and cornbread. I bought one of
> those seen on tv things for microwave brownies at the dollar store and made
> a brownie recipe for it, it turned out terrible when following their cooking
> instructions. Threw the whole thing out, including the brownies.

I could possibly throw the curry out. It'll take under a hour. How good
could it be? Eleven minutes and fifty seconds to go 'till the rice is
done. I started with "nearly" simmered to done hindquarters, chicken
stock, celery, onions and rice. Oh, and salt, plenty of pepper and
copious curry powder. She says the house stinks now.
I'm a pinto bean cooker with ham and cornbread. My wife prefers, so I
defers

leo

In article >, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> My wife eats a low carb diet. I made chicken and turmeric soup with
> sweet potato and chick peas. She was not thrilled by the high carb
> meal, but it was so good she had seconds.

The curry is done in about a hour. After I begged, my wife tasted a
spoonful and opined that it tasted better than it smelled. She still
doesn't want any. So it's all mine. Women!

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/adtghttu6jr2lwk/Curry%20Bowl.jpeg?dl=0>

leo

"Leo Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Cheri >
> wrote:
>
>> We had Navy Bean soup with ham, a salad, and cornbread. I bought one of
>> those seen on tv things for microwave brownies at the dollar store and
>> made
>> a brownie recipe for it, it turned out terrible when following their
>> cooking
>> instructions. Threw the whole thing out, including the brownies.
>
> I could possibly throw the curry out. It'll take under a hour. How good
> could it be? Eleven minutes and fifty seconds to go 'till the rice is
> done. I started with "nearly" simmered to done hindquarters, chicken
> stock, celery, onions and rice. Oh, and salt, plenty of pepper and
> copious curry powder. She says the house stinks now.
> I'm a pinto bean cooker with ham and cornbread. My wife prefers, so I
> defers
>
> leo


Pinto beans are great too.

Cheri

"Leo Blaisdell" wrote in message
...

In article >, Cheri >
wrote:

> We had Navy Bean soup with ham, a salad, and cornbread. I bought one of
> those seen on tv things for microwave brownies at the dollar store and
> made
> a brownie recipe for it, it turned out terrible when following their
> cooking
> instructions. Threw the whole thing out, including the brownies.

I could possibly throw the curry out. It'll take under a hour. How good
could it be? Eleven minutes and fifty seconds to go 'till the rice is
done. I started with "nearly" simmered to done hindquarters, chicken
stock, celery, onions and rice. Oh, and salt, plenty of pepper and
copious curry powder. She says the house stinks now.
I'm a pinto bean cooker with ham and cornbread. My wife prefers, so I
defers

leo

==

Wise man ;p

In article >,
says...
>
> In article >, graham >
> wrote:
>
> > We have 2 systems here, public and separate (Catholic) and unfortunately
> > it's in the AB Constitution so we are stuck with it. The papist bishop
> > wouldn't allow the schools to have the pupils jabbed for HPV but I think
> > that has been overcome now. Ironically, the separate system is much
> > better run than the public one.
>
> There's nothing ironic about it. Institutions with either a monetary or
> religious incentive always perform better than a government run one.

Not in the UK.

> The key is incentive. Money and belief trump government every time. It
> is always a present danger to socialists.

Clearly you know absolutely nothing about private medicine in the
United Kingdom. Nor about the appalling history of child abuse in
private fee-paying schools run by religious orders.

Janet UK

Leo Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >, Cheri
> > wrote:
>
> > We had Navy Bean soup with ham, a salad, and cornbread. I bought
> > one of those seen on tv things for microwave brownies at the dollar
> > store and made a brownie recipe for it, it turned out terrible when
> > following their cooking instructions. Threw the whole thing out,
> > including the brownies.
>
> I could possibly throw the curry out. It'll take under a hour. How
> good could it be? Eleven minutes and fifty seconds to go 'till the
> rice is done. I started with "nearly" simmered to done hindquarters,
> chicken stock, celery, onions and rice. Oh, and salt, plenty of
> pepper and copious curry powder. She says the house stinks now.
> I'm a pinto bean cooker with ham and cornbread. My wife prefers, so I
> defers
>
> leo

Depends on the actual amounts. When I do that sort of dish, I simmer
the whole thing at the start with the spices and stock.

What type of curry powder did you use? I like a milder yellow for
chicken and a deeper red (rogan josh) for lamb curries.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> > My wife eats a low carb diet. I made chicken and turmeric soup
> > with sweet potato and chick peas. She was not thrilled by the high
> > carb meal, but it was so good she had seconds.
>
> The curry is done in about a hour. After I begged, my wife tasted a
> spoonful and opined that it tasted better than it smelled. She still
> doesn't want any. So it's all mine. Women!
>
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/adtghttu6jr2lwk/Curry%20Bowl.jpeg?dl=0>
>
> leo

Looks good Leo!

Me, I just put up a double batch of Lumpia to the freezer and have a
sort of home made sloppy joes just finished.

I found 2lbs of ground beef (WalMart stuff) that Don forgot to vacuum
seal before freezing and it was 30days ago.

Fortunately it wasn't freezer burned but like all their meats, it was
too fine ground (hiding that it's from cheaper cuts). I added 1/2 a
medium heat (also medium sized, about 1/2 cup) diced onion, 28oz
crushed tomato can, 2TB garlic powder, 4TB of a 'Fajita mix' I found
here (Savory spice shop probably but been repackaged to a jar with a
home label as I'd have gotten a bag to split with others here).

Grin, see! We are not Vegetarian! Just low meat eaters.

Lunch was cole slaw (savory, not sweet) with toasted celerey seed bread
and cut up mangos.

Dinner will be sloppy joes on more of the same bread and corn wrapped
in aluminium foil roasting in the fireplace at the side of the coals.

In article >, cshenk
> wrote:

> What type of curry powder did you use? I like a milder yellow for
> chicken and a deeper red (rogan josh) for lamb curries.

Morton & Bassett out of San Francisco. It doesn't say whether it's hot
or not. It's not. It says it's Kosher now that I'm looking at the
label.

leo