I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
ever since.

So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.

This one:

<https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>

Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
than the beast it replaces.

The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.

--
Silvar Beitel

On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
> ever since.
>
> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>
> This one:
>
> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>
> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
> than the beast it replaces.
>
> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>

Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
of bargains with less space.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>> ever since.
>>
>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>
>> This one:
>>
>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>
>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>> than the beast it replaces.
>>
>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>
>
> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
> of bargains with less space.
>

Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.

Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:31 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>
> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
> ever since.
>
> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>
> This one:
>
> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>
> Silvar Beitel
>
I think you'll really enjoy the no-frost feature.

On 9/29/2018 8:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978.Â* It was
>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>> by the looks of it, already pretty old.Â* But it worked.Â* It
>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>> equipment.Â* It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>> ever since.
>>
>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer.Â* With marital
>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>
>> This one:
>>
>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>
>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good.Â* I mean,
>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen.Â* It's quiet
>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>> Best of all, it's frost-free.Â* And it uses a whole lot less energy
>> than the beast it replaces.
>>
>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>> the old one.Â* So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos.Â* Chopped zucchini combined
>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>
>
> OursÂ* is about that size.Â* We've had a freezer for many years.Â* Not sure
> what we will be doing in the future once we move.Â* Being retired, I have
> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
> of bargains with less space.
>
Mine is smaller than that. About 13.8 cu.ft. but yes, it's an upright
and frost-free. It's a Fridgidaire. It also has a status/temp setting
display on the door and indicator lights warning if the door is ajar or
if there's some sort of problem.

My parents had a freezer they brought with them when they moved here in
1987. They'd had it for several years before that. It went kaput a
couple of years after they passed away. Since the grocery stores here
aren't nearby I'd gotten used to having a separate freezer. This one is
much more energy efficient and smaller. I'm 5'3 and I'm taller than the
freezer is.

Jill

On 9/29/2018 11:22 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 6:03:31 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>
>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>> ever since.
>>
>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>
>> This one:
>>
>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>
>> Silvar Beitel
>>
> I think you'll really enjoy the no-frost feature.
>
Absolutely! I can't imagine having to defrost a freezer in this day and
age.

Jill

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>> ever since.
>>>
>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>
>>> This one:
>>>
>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>
>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>
>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>
>>
>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>> of bargains with less space.
>>
>
>Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>
>Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.

I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
meats is when there will be a major power outage... FL is famous for
power outages... living in Fl a whole house stand-by generator is a
necessary, especially for A/C.

My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.

On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>> ever since.
>>>>
>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>
>>>> This one:
>>>>
>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>
>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>
>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>
>>
>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>
>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>
> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
> meats is when there will be a major power outage...

I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.

> FL is famous for
> power outages...

Famous! Good to know. (laugh)

If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to contain
perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything that is
frozen solid.

> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>
I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>>
>>>>> This one:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not
>>>> sure
>>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I
>>>> have
>>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>>
>>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>>
>> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
>> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
>> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
>> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
>> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
>> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
>> meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>
> I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
> Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.
>
>> FL is famous for
>> power outages...
>
> Famous! Good to know. (laugh)
>
> If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to contain
> perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything that is
> frozen solid.
>
>> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
>> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>>
> I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.
>
> Jill

Popeye's RO water filter got lonely down in the basement, so he got the
fridge to keep it company.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:46:29 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>>
>>>>> This one:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
>>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
>>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>>
>>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>>
>> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
>> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
>> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
>> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
>> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
>> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
>> meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>
>I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
>Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.

I can, but we have seven people in the house.

We have a large 2 door frig/freezer and also a slimline pigeon pair.

JB

<snip>

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 4:46:35 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> >>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
> >>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
> >>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
> >>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
> >>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
> >>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
> >>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
> >>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
> >>>> ever since.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
> >>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
> >>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
> >>>>
> >>>> This one:
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
> >>>>
> >>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
> >>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
> >>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
> >>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
> >>>> than the beast it replaces.
> >>>>
> >>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
> >>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
> >>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
> >>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
> >>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
> >>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
> >>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
> >>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
> >>> of bargains with less space.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
> >> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
> >>
> >> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
> >
> > I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
> > more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
> > than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
> > prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
> > interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
> > day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
> > meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>
> I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
> Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.

We have two fridges. By custom, the basement fridge is called the
"beer fridge" even though it hasn't had beer in it in several years.

Ours holds (in the fridge compartment), extra milk, half-and-half, lettuce,
apples, bottled water (we don't use a lot, preferring tap water), yogurt.
It's where we put pots of soup, stew, etc. to cool. It's where we
defrost a turkey three or four times a year.

The freezer compartment holds packages of soup, spaghetti sauce, venison,
salmon, shrimp, pork, beef, chicken, green beans, a few ice packs,
bacon, butter, and other stuff.

Our upstairs fridge is generally full, too. Less full right before my
weekly trip to the grocery store; more so right after.

Obviously, not everybody needs a second fridge, but we find it very
convenient.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>> ever since.
>>>
>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>
>>> This one:
>>>
>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>
>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>
>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>
>>
>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>> of bargains with less space.
>>
>
>Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>
>Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.

I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
meats is when there will be a major power outage... FL is famous for
power outages... living in Fl a whole house stand-by generator is a
necessary, especially for A/C.

My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.

==

Er I have 4 freezers <g>

I chest 16 one tall freezer, one small undercounter freezer and a travel
one ;p

Trust me, I manage

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>> ever since.
>>>>
>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>
>>>> This one:
>>>>
>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>
>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>
>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not sure
>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I have
>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>
>>
>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>
>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>
> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
> meats is when there will be a major power outage...

I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.

> FL is famous for
> power outages...

Famous! Good to know. (laugh)

If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to contain
perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything that is
frozen solid.

> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>
I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.

Jill

==

Nahh I am happy with my 4 .... ;p

On 10/1/2018 12:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978.Â* It was
>>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old.Â* But it worked.Â* It
>>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>>> equipment.Â* It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer.Â* With marital
>>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>>
>>>>> This one:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good.Â* I mean,
>>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen.Â* It's quiet
>>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free.Â* And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>>> the old one.Â* So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos.Â* Chopped zucchini combined
>>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OursÂ* is about that size.Â* We've had a freezer for many years.Â* Not
>>>> sure
>>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move.Â* Being retired, I
>>>> have
>>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>>
>>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>>
>> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
>> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
>> thanÂ* adequate.Â* I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
>> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
>> interest bearing account.Â* In the US there are sales on meats every
>> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
>> meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>
> I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
> Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.
>
>> FL is famous for
>> power outages...
>
> Famous!Â* Good to know. (laugh)
>
> If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to contain
> perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything that is
> frozen solid.
>
>> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
>> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>>
> I'm thrilled for you.Â* Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Nahh I am happy with my 4 .... ;p
>
Right now we have to an extra fridge and a freezer. They made sense
years ago, but less so now. Not sure what we will do in the future.

It was different years ago with the kids at home and getting paid once a
month. We had a big monthly shopping trip and took advantage of sales
and froze local produce when cheap. Now that I'm retired and just the
two of us, less need to have large inventory. I make more frequent
trips to the store now.

Once we move, settle in and develop different habits, we'll see. Right
now I don't see a need for a lot of refrigeration. We will be about a
mile from a supermarket. I intend to buy a bicycle for exercise so that
could be anice trip a few times a week.

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 1:36:53 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> It was different years ago with the kids at home and getting paid once a
> month. We had a big monthly shopping trip and took advantage of sales
> and froze local produce when cheap. Now that I'm retired and just the
> two of us, less need to have large inventory. I make more frequent
> trips to the store now.

While it is nice to stash away sale items and minimize trips to the
market, the *main* reason *we* have a freezer is for the greater variety
and flexibility it gives when choosing meals, especially at the last
moment, compared to not having one. IOW, it rewards poor planners.

A room-sized pantry facilitates that too. (A prepper would be jealous
of our setup. :-) )

OTOH, you have to use stuff up before it goes bad or gets too
far past its use-by date or the mice find it. :-) Otherwise, you're
just wasting food.

Having to defrost a non-frost-free freezer once in a while allows you
to discover those things that need to be eaten soon or thrown away. I
probably tossed $20 worth of stuff in our recent transition from old
freezer to new, but *only* $20 worth. And I (re-)discovered some real
goodies I'd forgotten we had (like a large bag of crab legs), so dragged
them to the front to eat sooner rather than later! With a frost-free
freezer, some things are bound to disappear into the depths of it forever.

--
Silvar Beitel

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" wrote
> I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.

> ==
> Nahh I am happy with my 4 .... ;p

There ya go! The more the merrier!

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 10/1/2018 12:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>
> On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>>
>>>>> This one:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not
>>>> sure
>>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I
>>>> have
>>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>>
>>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>>
>> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
>> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
>> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
>> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
>> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
>> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
>> meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>
> I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
> Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.
>
>> FL is famous for
>> power outages...
>
> Famous! Good to know. (laugh)
>
> If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to contain
> perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything that is
> frozen solid.
>
>> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
>> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>>
> I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Nahh I am happy with my 4 .... ;p
>
Right now we have to an extra fridge and a freezer. They made sense
years ago, but less so now. Not sure what we will do in the future.

It was different years ago with the kids at home and getting paid once a
month. We had a big monthly shopping trip and took advantage of sales
and froze local produce when cheap. Now that I'm retired and just the
two of us, less need to have large inventory. I make more frequent
trips to the store now.

Once we move, settle in and develop different habits, we'll see. Right
now I don't see a need for a lot of refrigeration. We will be about a
mile from a supermarket. I intend to buy a bicycle for exercise so that
could be anice trip a few times a week.

==

Whatever you decide ... enjoy That is what a happy life is all about)

"Silvar Beitel" wrote in message
...

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 1:36:53 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> It was different years ago with the kids at home and getting paid once a
> month. We had a big monthly shopping trip and took advantage of sales
> and froze local produce when cheap. Now that I'm retired and just the
> two of us, less need to have large inventory. I make more frequent
> trips to the store now.

While it is nice to stash away sale items and minimize trips to the
market, the *main* reason *we* have a freezer is for the greater variety
and flexibility it gives when choosing meals, especially at the last
moment, compared to not having one. IOW, it rewards poor planners.

A room-sized pantry facilitates that too. (A prepper would be jealous
of our setup. :-) )

My husband is a prepper .... and he loves the way I stock up as
you would imagine

OTOH, you have to use stuff up before it goes bad or gets too
far past its use-by date or the mice find it. :-) Otherwise, you're
just wasting food.

Having to defrost a non-frost-free freezer once in a while allows you
to discover those things that need to be eaten soon or thrown away. I
probably tossed $20 worth of stuff in our recent transition from old
freezer to new, but *only* $20 worth. And I (re-)discovered some real
goodies I'd forgotten we had (like a large bag of crab legs), so dragged
them to the front to eat sooner rather than later! With a frost-free
freezer, some things are bound to disappear into the depths of it forever.

It's all good

O.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" wrote
> I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.

> ==
> Nahh I am happy with my 4 .... ;p

There ya go! The more the merrier!

=

LOL troo dat

jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>>
>>>>> This one:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not
>>>> sure
>>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I
>>>> have
>>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>>
>>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>>
>> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
>> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
>> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
>> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
>> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
>> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
>> meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>
> I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
> Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.
>
>> FL is famous for
>> power outages...
>
> Famous! Good to know. (laugh)
>
> If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to
> contain perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything
> that is frozen solid.
>
>> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
>> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>>
> I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.
>
> Jill

Sounds like jealousy to me. You could have chosen to not respond. Many
people DO have two refrigerators! Many people entertain, host holiday
dinners, have large families, etc.

You post about your freezer frequently. Some people might not need one
but they don't attack you for your choice.

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:20:13 PM UTC-10, Golden One wrote:
>
> I can, but we have seven people in the house.
>
> We have a large 2 door frig/freezer and also a slimline pigeon pair.
>
> JB
>
> <snip>

My wife's family kept a refrigerator in her bedroom. I thought that was nutty as hell. It turns out that it was common for Koreans to have two refrigerators. They needed a separate one to keep stinky kim chee.

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:13:09 -0400, Alex > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/30/2018 3:45 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:06:18 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 9/29/2018 7:03 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>>> I bought my first house (in rural New Jersey) in 1978. It was
>>>>>> empty except for an upright GE freezer in the basement that was,
>>>>>> by the looks of it, already pretty old. But it worked. It
>>>>>> came north with me when we moved here in 1981 and has been working
>>>>>> ever since, except for the one time the fan died and I (being a
>>>>>> standard computer geek) replaced it with one from some old computer
>>>>>> equipment. It has been running ever since, getting increasingly
>>>>>> rusty and moldy, and annoyingly needing defrosting ~twice a year
>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, a month or so ago, Mrs. Beitel got on her high horse about
>>>>>> saving energy and suggested getting a new freezer. With marital
>>>>>> peace firmly in mind, we (I) did. Not that I needed much convincing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/FUF17DLRWW>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consumer Reports likes it, other reviews are also good. I mean,
>>>>>> it's a freezer, not complicated, it keeps food frozen. It's quiet
>>>>>> and you can tell its status from a small display on the door.
>>>>>> Best of all, it's frost-free. And it uses a whole lot less energy
>>>>>> than the beast it replaces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The RFC aspect of this is that it's a bit smaller volume-wise than
>>>>>> the old one. So, for the past month or so, we've been living on
>>>>>> freezer contents balanced with late-season garden vegetables.
>>>>>> Example: Tonight, frozen chuck roast slow-cooked, shredded, a filling
>>>>>> for beef and bean and cheese burritos. Chopped zucchini combined
>>>>>> with frozen mixed vegetables and some Goya Saison to round it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ours is about that size. We've had a freezer for many years. Not
>>>>> sure
>>>>> what we will be doing in the future once we move. Being retired, I
>>>>> have
>>>>> the time to shop more frequently though it is harder to take advantage
>>>>> of bargains with less space.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fer gawd's sake man, don't buy a freezer or anything else till yoose
>>>> check with Popeye so's yoose'll know what to buy.
>>>>
>>>> Damn, the basement screw up should have taught yoose a lesson.
>>>
>>> I found a much better choice is a 2nd refrigerator freezer... I get
>>> more use from the extra fridge space and the two freezers are more
>>> than adequate. I don't want to use a freezer for investment, I much
>>> prefer to use the stupidmarket refrigeration and place my money in an
>>> interest bearing account. In the US there are sales on meats every
>>> day.... and just when one fills up a large freezer with expensive
>>> meats is when there will be a major power outage...
>>
>> I've been waiting for you to mention your second refrigerator/freezer.
>> Sorry, but I can't think of a single reason to have 2 refrigerators.
>>
>>> FL is famous for
>>> power outages...
>>
>> Famous! Good to know. (laugh)
>>
>> If there's an extended power outage the fridge is more likely to
>> contain perishable items that will spoil more quickly than anything
>> that is frozen solid.
>>
>>> My 2nd refridgerator freezer is in my basement, a no frills model I
>>> bought reconditioned 16 years ago for $100, 17 cuft, works perfectly.
>>>
>> I'm thrilled for you. Doesn't mean everyone wants a second refrigerator.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Sounds like jealousy to me. You could have chosen to not respond. Many
>people DO have two refrigerators! Many people entertain, host holiday
>dinners, have large families, etc.
>
>You post about your freezer frequently. Some people might not need one
>but they don't attack you for your choice.

All true!
Another good reason to have a second refrigerator freezer is if one
decides to go on the fritz, at least there's another unit to store
perishables until it gets repaired/replaced.
But then for those old biddys who live all alone and never have guests
all they need is one of those 4 cuft dorm fridges. With The Club
within walking distance all they really need is a tiny fridge big
enough for their box wine.
I've said several times previously that I make good use of the second
fridge for storing my vegetable garden crops. Right now it's filled
with melons, winter squash, greens, brussel sprouts, cukes, peppers,
and also curly leaf parsely... Chuck roasts are on sale this week and
I'm having company this coming weekend, I'm planning on beef stew in
my new 15 qt braiser:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/kbjnuy5u/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:20:13 PM UTC-10, Golden One wrote:
>
> I can, but we have seven people in the house.
>
> We have a large 2 door frig/freezer and also a slimline pigeon pair.
>
> JB
>
> <snip>

My wife's family kept a refrigerator in her bedroom. I thought that was
nutty as hell. It turns out that it was common for Koreans to have two
refrigerators. They needed a separate one to keep stinky kim chee.

==

I will take your word for the stinkyness of kim chee I have one large
upright fridge which is just right for us ... now freezers ... that is a
different matter <g>

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 12:38:22 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> I will take your word for the stinkyness of kim chee I have one large
> upright fridge which is just right for us ... now freezers ... that is a
> different matter <g>

Near as I can figure, the Koreans consider these things as status symbols. They can be a lot more expensive than regular refrigerators.

https://www.amazon.com/Dimchae-Kimch...dp/B07FRPM2JT/

On 10/2/2018 7:15 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 12:38:22 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>>
>> I will take your word for the stinkyness of kim chee I have one large
>> upright fridge which is just right for us ... now freezers ... that is a
>> different matter <g>
>
> Near as I can figure, the Koreans consider these things as status symbols. They can be a lot more expensive than regular refrigerators.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Dimchae-Kimch...dp/B07FRPM2JT/
>
Pretty snazzy status symbol. I wonder if Romantic Red would look good
in our bedroom.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I have one large upright fridge which is just right for us ...

Made it yourself from scratch too, no doubt.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I have one large upright fridge which is just right for us ...

Made it yourself from scratch too, no doubt.
==

Watchit buster ;p

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> We will be about a
> mile from a supermarket. I intend to buy a bicycle for exercise so that
> could be anice trip a few times a week.

I have 2 grocery stores only a mile away and I often (in good
weather) will ride my bike to one. As I live one mile from the
ocean, I combine a nice boardwalk bike ride with it. On the way
home I'll stop in and buy one or two bags of groceries. Just what
I can hold in my left hand dangling and still use both hands for
riding.

Rather than go once a week, I do 2-3 small shopping trips a week.
Fun bike ride, good exercise, and come home with groceries. If I
want heavier items, I'll just drive there and back. My personal
driving is no more than 4 miles a week on average.

I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
street to my van starts a sweat.

Early morning bike rides are the same in the summer. At least
once you start pedaling though, that creates a breeze that helps
quite a bit.

As far as heat and humidity goes. I can deal with high levels of
both as long as there is a breeze. There's never a breeze here
when I go out so early. It's dead calm and miserable.

On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:

>
> I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
> humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
> probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
> my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
> Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
> steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
> street to my van starts a sweat.

I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
At least there will be sunshine.

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 5:16:41 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Pretty snazzy status symbol. I wonder if Romantic Red would look good
> in our bedroom.

That would depend. Are you a vampire? Blood red is the Korean idea of a romantic color. Koreans are just like regular Asians - well, if they were on speed, that is.

In article >, says...
>
> On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> >
> > I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
> > humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
> > probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
> > my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
> > Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
> > steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
> > street to my van starts a sweat.
>
> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
> Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
> At least there will be sunshine.

I have American neighbours who live in Florida in winter. They spend
all summer here in cool Scotland, to escape the Florida summer heat.


Janet.

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:50:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>>
>> I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
>> humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
>> probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
>> my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
>> Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
>> steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
>> street to my van starts a sweat.
>
>I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
>Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
>At least there will be sunshine.

Sounds like a wise move!

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 00:04:58 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
>> > humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
>> > probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
>> > my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
>> > Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
>> > steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
>> > street to my van starts a sweat.
>>
>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
>> Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
>> At least there will be sunshine.
>
> I have American neighbours who live in Florida in winter. They spend
>all summer here in cool Scotland, to escape the Florida summer heat.
>
>
> Janet.

Why not. Scotland sounds really lovely.

On 2018-10-02 5:35 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 00:04:58 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
>>>> humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
>>>> probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
>>>> my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
>>>> Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
>>>> steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
>>>> street to my van starts a sweat.
>>>
>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
>>> Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
>>> At least there will be sunshine.
>>
>> I have American neighbours who live in Florida in winter. They spend
>> all summer here in cool Scotland, to escape the Florida summer heat.
>>
>>
>> Janet.
>
> Why not. Scotland sounds really lovely.
>
"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that
leads him to England!"
Samuel Johnson

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 18:46:20 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-10-02 5:35 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 00:04:58 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
>>>>> humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
>>>>> probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out of
>>>>> my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
>>>>> Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
>>>>> steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
>>>>> street to my van starts a sweat.
>>>>
>>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and cold.
>>>> Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for July/August.
>>>> At least there will be sunshine.
>>>
>>> I have American neighbours who live in Florida in winter. They spend
>>> all summer here in cool Scotland, to escape the Florida summer heat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Janet.
>>
>> Why not. Scotland sounds really lovely.
>>
>"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high road that
>leads him to England!"

If he can see that road through the rain, that is.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 00:55:16 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 02 Oct 2018 04:10:46p, Brice told us...
>
>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:50:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter and
>>>> humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
>>>> probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out
>>>> of my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the morning.
>>>> Walking out the front door feels like you stepped into a hot
>>>> steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking across the
>>>> street to my van starts a sweat.
>>>
>>>I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>
>> Sounds like a wise move!
>>
>
>I had my fill of snow and ice after living over 50 years in NE Ohio.
>Moving to AZ has really been a treat. If we want it cooler, we can
>always drive to the mountains. OTherise we also hide in the house
>with the AC.

Maybe AZ is a bit extreme, but I'd prefer it to a cold place.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 02:01:27 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 02 Oct 2018 06:45:29p, Brice told us...
>
>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 18:46:20 -0600, graham >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-10-02 5:35 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 00:04:58 +0100, Janet >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>>>> cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>>>> July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have American neighbours who live in Florida in winter.
>>>>> They spend
>>>>> all summer here in cool Scotland, to escape the Florida summer
>>>>> heat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet.
>>>>
>>>> Why not. Scotland sounds really lovely.
>>>>
>>>"The noblest prospect which a Scotchman ever sees, is the high
>>>road that leads him to England!"
>>
>> If he can see that road through the rain, that is.
>>
>
>We've had rain most of last week and expect it continue this week.
>It's a welcome change from our usual AZ weather.

Rain's a rare commodity in many parts of Australia as well.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 01:59:41 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 02 Oct 2018 06:47:31p, Brice told us...
>
>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 00:55:16 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue 02 Oct 2018 04:10:46p, Brice told us...
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:50:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 10/2/2018 1:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will give you a forewarning though. Florida is much hotter
>>>>>> and humid during the summer than coastal Virginia here. You've
>>>>>> probably heard me cry morning after morning, about walking out
>>>>>> of my airconditioned place to go to work at 5:30 in the
>>>>>> morning. Walking out the front door feels like you stepped
>>>>>> into a hot steamy bathroom. It's not fun at all. Just walking
>>>>>> across the street to my van starts a sweat.
>>>>>
>>>>>I spend most of January/February here hiding from the snow and
>>>>>cold. Down there I expect to hide in the house with the AC for
>>>>>July/August. At least there will be sunshine.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a wise move!
>>>>
>>>
>>>I had my fill of snow and ice after living over 50 years in NE
>>>Ohio. Moving to AZ has really been a treat. If we want it
>>>cooler, we can always drive to the mountains. OTherise we also
>>>hide in the house with the AC.
>>
>> Maybe AZ is a bit extreme, but I'd prefer it to a cold place.
>>
>
>So did we. :-)
>
>After living here nearly 20 years and acclimating to the climate we
>found we could easily tolerate 100-105 degres F. Betwen 105-120 we
>shy away from the heat. It's not much different than avoiding -10 to
>-20 in the dead of winter.

105 outside, I assume, not in your house. We do without airco in the
house until it reaches 96 inside. Then we turn it on. It only happens
a few days per year.

On 10/2/2018 10:24 PM, Brice wrote:

>
> 105 outside, I assume, not in your house. We do without airco in the
> house until it reaches 96 inside. Then we turn it on. It only happens
> a few days per year.
>

Evidently you are not married to my wife.

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 22:32:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/2/2018 10:24 PM, Brice wrote:
>
>>
>> 105 outside, I assume, not in your house. We do without airco in the
>> house until it reaches 96 inside. Then we turn it on. It only happens
>> a few days per year.
>>
>
>Evidently you are not married to my wife.

She wants airco earlier?