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On 2018-07-11 7:54 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:27:03 -0600, graham > wrote: > >> On 2018-07-11 4:14 PM, Druce wrote: >>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:36:11 -0300, wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 13:47:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 11:44:00 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>> == >>>>>> >>>>>> Such a gentleman! >>>>> >>>>> Trump's supporters have completely missed that he has the emotional maturity of a 12 year old boy. The religious right is certainly aware that he treats women like pieces of meat but they're willing to sell out our their principles in hope of gaining some leverage in governmental power. Mostly, they will just lose credibility with a new new flock of young people. >>>>> >>>>> Trump + Pence will be responsible for the jester-fication of Christianity in the US. It comes at a time when Christianity can ill afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. >>>> >>>> Interesting American man talking on the radio yesterday. He said go >>>> back, right back to the Pilgrim Fathers and therein lies the answer. >>>> They were religious misfits who wanted total control of everyone and >>>> were prepared to cross the ocean to get it. Toute ca change and all >>>> that. >>> >>> I don't know what "Toute ca change" means, but it ain't French. >>> >> It's double Dutch:-) > > Cheeky  "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" The more it changes the more it stays the same. |
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On 7/11/2018 4:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> Trump + Pence will be responsible for the jester-fication of Christianity in the US. It comes at a time when Christianity can ill afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. > Pence creeps me out. I would have made him nuts today. I spent some time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a third woman. Pence won't be seen alone with a woman. He's probably a bigger pervert than Trump. |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 20:36:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 7/11/2018 4:47 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> Trump + Pence will be responsible for the jester-fication of Christianity in the US. It comes at a time when Christianity can ill afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. >> > >Pence creeps me out. I would have made him nuts today. I spent some >time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a >third woman. That's what I call a spending spree! |
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On 2018-07-11 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 4:47 PM, dsi1 wrote: afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. >> > > Pence creeps me out.Â* I would have made him nuts today.Â* I spent some > time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a > third woman. > > Pence won't be seen alone with a woman.Â* He's probably a bigger pervert > than Trump. I always have my suspicions about the ultra religious who are into celibacy. I consider sex to be a natural part of our lives, not something dirty and perverse. Maybe if those people had a normal sex lie they would not have to suppress their sexuality to the point that it becomes a perversion. |
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On 2018-07-11 6:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 4:47 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> Trump + Pence will be responsible for the jester-fication of >> Christianity in the US. It comes at a time when Christianity can ill >> afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. >> > > Pence creeps me out.Â* I would have made him nuts today.Â* I spent some > time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a > third woman. > > Pence won't be seen alone with a woman.Â* He's probably a bigger pervert > than Trump. He's certainly perverse! |
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On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 2:36:42 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > Pence creeps me out. I would have made him nuts today. I spent some > time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a > third woman. > > Pence won't be seen alone with a woman. He's probably a bigger pervert > than Trump. Blasphemy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_PsIo7ttWA |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:11:21 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2018-07-11 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 7/11/2018 4:47 PM, dsi1 wrote: > afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. >>> >> >> Pence creeps me out.* I would have made him nuts today.* I spent some >> time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a >> third woman. >> >> Pence won't be seen alone with a woman.* He's probably a bigger pervert >> than Trump. > >I always have my suspicions about the ultra religious who are into >celibacy. I consider sex to be a natural part of our lives, not >something dirty and perverse. Maybe if those people had a normal sex lie >they would not have to suppress their sexuality to the point that it >becomes a perversion. They don't suppress their sex life! Think of the fire and brimstone preachers caught with prostitutes etc. They are best at telling other people what they shouldn't do! |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 22:40:35 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 08:16:14 -0300, wrote: > >>On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:11:21 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>>On 2018-07-11 8:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> >>>> Pence creeps me out.* I would have made him nuts today.* I spent some >>>> time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a >>>> third woman. >>>> >>>> Pence won't be seen alone with a woman.* He's probably a bigger pervert >>>> than Trump. >>> >>>I always have my suspicions about the ultra religious who are into >>>celibacy. I consider sex to be a natural part of our lives, not >>>something dirty and perverse. Maybe if those people had a normal sex lie >>>they would not have to suppress their sexuality to the point that it >>>becomes a perversion. >> >>They don't suppress their sex life! Think of the fire and brimstone >>preachers caught with prostitutes etc. They are best at telling other >>people what they shouldn't do! > >Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. There have been too many scandals for it to be a generalisation. Starting with Jimmy Bakker on down. It's not me who is narrow-minded, I don't seek to tell people they should go to church, they should tithe lots of money to said church, I could care less if they find fools to do it but I do care when they try to inflict their ideas on other people who are not interested. Abortion would be the main area I cross horns with them, I don't think I could ever have brought myself to have one but I would die for the right of a woman who feels she should have one, to be able to have it safely. I especially hate that in the southern states it is mainly the MEN who have closed down the clinics. Like they are going to have an unwanted pregnancy!! |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 19:54:20 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 2018-07-11 6:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 7/11/2018 4:47 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> >>> Trump + Pence will be responsible for the jester-fication of >>> Christianity in the US. It comes at a time when Christianity can ill >>> afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the breaks. >>> >> >> Pence creeps me out.* I would have made him nuts today.* I spent some >> time with one woman, left her, picked up another and went to visit a >> third woman. >> >> Pence won't be seen alone with a woman.* He's probably a bigger pervert >> than Trump. > >He's certainly perverse! And personally chosen for VP by Manafort. |
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On 2018-07-12 11:18 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:36:11 -0300, wrote: > >>> Trump + Pence will be responsible for the jester-fication of >>> Christianity in the US. It comes at a time when Christianity can >>> ill afford any loss of credibility or relevancy. That's the >>> breaks. >> >> Interesting American man talking on the radio yesterday. He said >> go back, right back to the Pilgrim Fathers and therein lies the >> answer. They were religious misfits who wanted total control of >> everyone and were prepared to cross the ocean to get it. Toute ca >> change and all that. > > I never thought of it that way The Puritans were religious extremists who were causing trouble back in England. The guys who sailed in the Mayflower had been living in exile in Holland. They did not want to establish a colony that was free of religious oppression. They wanted to set up a religious colony, and they oppressed people of other religions. |
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On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote:
>>> I always have my suspicions about the ultra religious who are into >>> celibacy. I consider sex to be a natural part of our lives, not >>> something dirty and perverse. Maybe if those people had a normal sex lie >>> they would not have to suppress their sexuality to the point that it >>> becomes a perversion. >> >> They don't suppress their sex life! Think of the fire and brimstone >> preachers caught with prostitutes etc. They are best at telling other >> people what they shouldn't do! > > Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just > like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad > atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to > become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. > But are they generalizations? There are enough of them that I don't trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. |
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On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: > >>>> I always have my suspicions about the ultra religious who are into >>>> celibacy.Â* I consider sex to be a natural part of our lives, not >>>> something dirty and perverse. Maybe if those people had a normal sex >>>> lie >>>> they would not have to suppress their sexuality to the point that it >>>> becomes a perversion. >>> >>> They don't suppress their sex life!Â* Think of the fire and brimstone >>> preachers caught with prostitutes etc. They are best at telling other >>> people what they shouldn't do! >> >> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >> > > But are they generalizations?Â* There are enough of them that I don't > trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't > brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have the guts to tax them properly either. |
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On 2018-07-12 2:21 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: >> But are they generalizations?Â* There are enough of them that I don't >> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. > > They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their > congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their > followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to > donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have > the guts to tax them properly either. I am not at all religious, but I can see giving churches a break on taxes. The way I figure it is that they are publicly owned and operated by the people. The offer space for community activities and public support services. However, they have certainly been cases of abuse over the years. They have been used to support and to enrich the already powerful. They have been used to push political agendas. They have also been used to finance the opulent lifestyles of their leaders... like Jimmy and Tammy Faye Bakker. I had to deal with a number of churches when I was working. I was surprised to learn that a lot of the new fundamentalist churches were corporations, usually numbered companies doing business as.... I don't mind cutting them slack on the legitimate good work that they do, but there need to be some rules about how the earn, use and invest their money to ensure that the "church" is not just a money making scheme taking advantage of people who are trying to be good. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:21:21 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: >> >>> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >>> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >>> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >>> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >>> >> >> But are they generalizations?* There are enough of them that I don't >> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. > >They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >the guts to tax them properly either. I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. |
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graham wrote:
>On 2018-07 Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>On 7/12/2018 Druce wrote: >> >>>>> I always have my suspicions about the ultra religious who are into >>>>> celibacy.* Child molestation is NOT celibacy... there's never been a religious leader, male and especially female, who hasn't/doesn't practice sexual molestation with children... as do many school teachers. >>>>>I consider sex to be a natural part of our lives, not >>>>> something dirty and perverse. Maybe if those people had a normal sex >>>>> lie >>>>> they would not have to suppress their sexuality to the point that it >>>>> becomes a perversion. >>>> >>>> They don't suppress their sex life!* Think of the fire and brimstone >>>> preachers caught with prostitutes etc. They are best at telling other >>>> people what they shouldn't do! >>> >>> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >>> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >>> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >>> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >>> >> >> But are they generalizations?* There are enough of them that I don't >> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. > >They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >the guts to tax them properly either. AMEN! And the synonym for 'preacher' is 'perjurer'. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:33:44 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2018-07-12 2:21 PM, graham wrote: >> On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: > >>> But are they generalizations?* There are enough of them that I don't >>> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >>> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. >> >> They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >> congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >> followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >> donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >> the guts to tax them properly either. > >I am not at all religious, but I can see giving churches a break on >taxes. The way I figure it is that they are publicly owned and operated >by the people. The offer space for community activities and public >support services. However, they have certainly been cases of abuse over >the years. They have been used to support and to enrich the already >powerful. They have been used to push political agendas. They have also >been used to finance the opulent lifestyles of their leaders... like >Jimmy and Tammy Faye Bakker. > >I had to deal with a number of churches when I was working. I was >surprised to learn that a lot of the new fundamentalist churches were >corporations, usually numbered companies doing business as.... >I don't mind cutting them slack on the legitimate good work that they >do, but there need to be some rules about how the earn, use and invest >their money to ensure that the "church" is not just a money making >scheme taking advantage of people who are trying to be good. I think they should be taxed, or when they sell the profit should be taxed. The RC church had a monastery, a convent and a school on what became a prime piece of commercial property in the early 80s. When they sold it, it went for millions. At that point they should have had to pay a levy for all the 'tax' less years. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:21:21 -0600, graham > wrote: > >>On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: >>> >>>> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >>>> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >>>> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >>>> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >>>> >>> >>> But are they generalizations?* There are enough of them that I don't >>> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >>> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. >> >>They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >>congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >>followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >>donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >>the guts to tax them properly either. > >I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a lot of the myths pretty funny. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:21:21 -0600, graham > wrote: >> >>>On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: >>>> >>>>> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >>>>> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >>>>> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >>>>> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >>>>> >>>> >>>> But are they generalizations?* There are enough of them that I don't >>>> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >>>> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. >>> >>>They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >>>congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >>>followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >>>donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >>>the guts to tax them properly either. >> >>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. > >One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. > >When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >lot of the myths pretty funny. The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:21:21 -0600, graham > wrote: >> >>>On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: >>>> >>>>> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >>>>> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >>>>> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >>>>> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >>>>> >>>> >>>> But are they generalizations?* There are enough of them that I don't >>>> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >>>> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. >>> >>>They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >>>congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >>>followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >>>donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >>>the guts to tax them properly either. >> >>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. > >One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. > >When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >lot of the myths pretty funny. Every religion without exception is a myth, and that is pretty sad that billions of the world's people faithfully swallow the big lies hook, line, and sinker. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >>> >>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >> >>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >> >>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>lot of the myths pretty funny. > >The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the name of religious beliefs. Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>wrote: > >>>> >>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>> >>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>> >>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >> >>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system > >Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >name of religious beliefs. > >Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our countries. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>> >>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>> >>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>> >>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >> >>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>name of religious beliefs. >> >>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. > >Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >countries. So is the Catholic church. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>> >>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>> >>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>> >>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>> >>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>name of religious beliefs. >>> >>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >> >>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>countries. > >So is the Catholic church. In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>> >>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>> >>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>> >>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >> >>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>name of religious beliefs. >> >>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. > >Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >countries. Yet another BOGUS belief. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:29:58 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>>> >>>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>>> >>>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>>> >>>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>>> >>>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>>name of religious beliefs. >>>> >>>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >>> >>>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>>countries. >> >>So is the Catholic church. > >In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the >Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. The Catholic church protecting pedophiles is what I'd call criminal. The Catholic church running work houses for unwed mothers in Ireland and taking away their babies or churches who run schools for Native American children to deny their heritage or fundie sects that try to "cure" homosexuality are all what I call criminal. And if you want me to add a whole bunch more to this, I can. There is no diff in the dipshits of COS than the dipshits of the Catholic church or the dipshits like Osteen or dipshits of any other religion, here or overseas. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:44:42 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:29:58 +1000, Druce > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>>>> >>>>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>>>> >>>>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>>>name of religious beliefs. >>>>> >>>>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >>>> >>>>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>>>countries. >>> >>>So is the Catholic church. >> >>In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the >>Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. > >The Catholic church protecting pedophiles is what I'd call criminal. > >The Catholic church running work houses for unwed mothers in Ireland >and taking away their babies or churches who run schools for Native >American children to deny their heritage or fundie sects that try to >"cure" homosexuality are all what I call criminal. > >And if you want me to add a whole bunch more to this, I can. There is >no diff in the dipshits of COS than the dipshits of the Catholic >church or the dipshits like Osteen or dipshits of any other religion, >here or overseas. You need a lot more information about the Church of Scientology than you have at the moment. |
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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 10:14:37 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > Every religion without exception is a myth, and that is pretty sad > that billions of the world's people faithfully swallow the big lies > hook, line, and sinker. Believing in something bigger than ourselves is built into our DNA. It is the byproduct of our awareness of self and the passing of time and the knowledge that one day we will die. People may bitch about religion but the alternative would be to live like animals in a savage wilderness. It is a great and wonderful gift that we have received. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:02:52 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 10:14:37 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote: >> >> Every religion without exception is a myth, and that is pretty sad >> that billions of the world's people faithfully swallow the big lies >> hook, line, and sinker. > >Believing in something bigger than ourselves is built into our DNA. It is the byproduct of our awareness of self and the passing of time and the knowledge that one day we will die. People may bitch about religion but the alternative would be to live like animals in a savage wilderness. It is a great and wonderful gift that we have received. Non-religious people behave a whole lot better than religious people. So you've got it all backward. What a surprise. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:29:58 +1000, Druce >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>>> >>>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>>> >>>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>>> >>>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>>> >>>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>>name of religious beliefs. >>>> >>>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >>> >>>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>>countries. >> >>So is the Catholic church. > >In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the >Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. Who gives a shit, you're all LYING *EVIL* DOUCHEBAGS... no different from any other religion. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:44:42 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:29:58 +1000, Druce > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>>>> >>>>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>>>> >>>>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>>>name of religious beliefs. >>>>> >>>>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >>>> >>>>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>>>countries. >>> >>>So is the Catholic church. >> >>In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the >>Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. > >The Catholic church protecting pedophiles is what I'd call criminal. > >The Catholic church running work houses for unwed mothers in Ireland >and taking away their babies or churches who run schools for Native >American children to deny their heritage or fundie sects that try to >"cure" homosexuality are all what I call criminal. > >And if you want me to add a whole bunch more to this, I can. There is >no diff in the dipshits of COS than the dipshits of the Catholic >church or the dipshits like Osteen or dipshits of any other religion, >here or overseas. Ditto +++ |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:34:21 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:26:06 -0400, wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:29:58 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>>>>> >>>>>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>>>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>>>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>>>>name of religious beliefs. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >>>>> >>>>>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>>>>countries. >>>> >>>>So is the Catholic church. >>> >>>In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the >>>Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. >> >>Who gives a shit, you're all LYING *EVIL* DOUCHEBAGS... no different >>from any other religion. > >Sheldon, if you are going to reply to something, please read and >follow so that you understand what is going on and don't make a dumb >comment Hey Janet if you think you can rationalise with him, or change his potty mouth after all this time and vodka, good luck with that |
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In article >, penmart01
@aol.com says... > Who gives a shit, you're all LYING *EVIL* DOUCHEBAGS... no different > from any other religion. > > You kikes are the worst of the bunch. https://imgur.com/a/UmggyIG LOL! |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:34:21 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:26:06 -0400, wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:29:58 +1000, Druce > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:22:45 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:21:10 +1000, Druce > >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:17:34 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 06:04:04 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>>>>>>>>Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >>>>>>>>resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >>>>>>>>bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >>>>>>>>lot of the myths pretty funny. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy >>>>>>>stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their >>>>>>>crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system >>>>>> >>>>>>Um...may I remind you of various religions' involvement with child >>>>>>molestation or money scams or what happened to the Rohingya in Myanmar >>>>>>over the past year or two or Isis or similar horrific dealings in the >>>>>>name of religious beliefs. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ain't no religion that has a monopoly on this. >>>>> >>>>>Terrible things happen in far away lands. Scientology is part of our >>>>>countries. >>>> >>>>So is the Catholic church. >>> >>>In the Catholic church, there are members commiting crimes. In the >>>Church of Scientology, the system is criminal. >> >>Who gives a shit, you're all LYING *EVIL* DOUCHEBAGS... no different >>from any other religion. > >Sheldon, if you are going to reply to something, please read and >follow so that you understand what is going on and don't make a dumb >comment. I've no doubt that you enjoy church for you're getting gang banged by the priests and sexually servicing the sisters since you were six years old. and still. Amd you'ree |
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Druce wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:40:13 -0400, Boron Elgar > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 05:31:02 +1000, Druce > >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:21:21 -0600, graham > wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-07-12 10:52 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>> On 7/12/2018 8:40 AM, Druce wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Such generalisations. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just >>>>>> like there are good Canadians and bad Canadians, good atheists and bad >>>>>> atheists, good women and bad women. I thought people were supposed to >>>>>> become wiser as they get older, not more narrow-minded. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But are they generalizations? There are enough of them that I don't >>>>> trust any of them but I'm sure there are some good people that don't >>>>> brag or tell others how to live their life while doing the opposite. >>>> >>>> They certainly appear to enjoy "bigly" the power they have over their >>>> congregations! A significant number live high off the hog whilst their >>>> followers are persuaded (usually with the threat of "dis-fellowship") to >>>> donate more and more of their hard-earned money. Washington doesn't have >>>> the guts to tax them properly either. >>> >>> I don't understand that governments don't go after Scientology harder. >>> Scientology makes all other religions look good. Well, almost. >> >> One can hardly criticize Thetans from the vantage of belief in a >> resurrected son of a god, advice from someone who listens to a burning >> bush or even thinks there is a Cosmic Turtle. >> >> When you start picking apart most of the world's major religions, a >> lot of the myths pretty funny. > > The problem with Scientology isn't so much that they belief in crazy > stuff, but that it's a criminal, sadistic organisation. And their > crimes aren't excesses, but part of their belief system. > L. Ron Hubbard was the jebus of scientology. A truly rotten, low down, narcissistic, SOB, just like our Popeye. The good thing about the scieno cult was that people who were not rich, were not pursued by the cult. |
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