Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.

https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg

I actually don't mind the idea of "Swedish meatballs" but I think of
them more as an appetizer than a main dish.

I love Beef Stroganoff. That was one of the few dishes my mother made
when I was a child that she excelled at cooking. She used very good
beef. It was cut into very thin strips. I do believe it was tenderloin.

Seafood newburg? Sure, why not? I have some large scallop shells for
baking this creamy eafood dish. Given to me buy a neighbor. Seafood
Newburg may be served over pattie shells, rice or noodles. Me, I'd just
use a fork and eat it out of the shell.

Chicken Kiev can be fun but the cold herbed butter in the chicken will
eventually be hot and squirt out when you cut into the chicken. LOL
Still quite delicious. Lots of garlic and herbs in the chilled butter,
as I recall.

Mid Century? Sure. No reason it can't still be tasty!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.
>
> https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg
>
> I actually don't mind the idea of "Swedish meatballs" but I think of them
> more as an appetizer than a main dish.
>
> I love Beef Stroganoff. That was one of the few dishes my mother made
> when I was a child that she excelled at cooking. She used very good beef.
> It was cut into very thin strips. I do believe it was tenderloin.
>
> Seafood newburg? Sure, why not? I have some large scallop shells for
> baking this creamy eafood dish. Given to me buy a neighbor. Seafood
> Newburg may be served over pattie shells, rice or noodles. Me, I'd just
> use a fork and eat it out of the shell.
>
> Chicken Kiev can be fun but the cold herbed butter in the chicken will
> eventually be hot and squirt out when you cut into the chicken. LOL Still
> quite delicious. Lots of garlic and herbs in the chilled butter, as I
> recall.
>
> Mid Century? Sure. No reason it can't still be tasty!
>
> Jill

"White Castle"? That's funny.

On 6/20/2018 6:28 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:14:31 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.
>>
>> https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg
>
> Wagu? That's the new breed of Chinese cow that are fed melamine.
>
> None of those dishes are "mid-century". Most are early 1900's with
> a few 1800's.
>
> -sw
>
They didn't say "which" century. LOL

Jill

On 6/22/2018 12:38 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:40:57 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2018 6:28 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:14:31 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.
>>>>
>>>> https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg
>>>
>>> Wagu? That's the new breed of Chinese cow that are fed melamine.
>>>
>>> None of those dishes are "mid-century". Most are early 1900's with
>>> a few 1800's.
>>>
>> They didn't say "which" century. LOL
>
> Early 1900's and late 1800's are still not mid-century.
>
> -sw
>


What do they mean by "mid-century"? That is when these dishes were
first concocted? Of course not. All of these dishes would be pretty
standard fare in the mid 20th century.

You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
mocking Dataw.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>> mocking Dataw.
>
> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?

AS bad sounding one.

On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>> mocking Dataw.
>
> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>
> -sw
>

probably some cultural misappropriation. likely racist, too.

On 6/24/2018 1:08 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>> mocking Dataw.
>>
>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> probably some cultural misappropriation.Â* likely racist, too.

Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
in the 1500s. It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

On 6/23/2018 11:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>> mocking Dataw.
>
> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>
> -sw
>
The original name of the island was Datha.

Jill

On 6/24/2018 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/24/2018 1:08 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>>> mocking Dataw.
>>>
>>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>>
>> probably some cultural misappropriation.Â* likely racist, too.
>
> Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
> dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
> Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
> in the 1500s.Â* It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

Yes, Ed. The original name of this island was Datha. These islands
were inhabited by Native Americans well before any other country (first
it was the Spanish, then the English) decided to claim and colonize it.

The area is still abundant when it comes to game and seafood. Much of
the local restaurants use freshly caught seafood. Shrimp season just
officially opened in the area. Also blue crab.

Jill

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:40:44 PM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>
> What do they mean by "mid-century"? That is when these dishes were
> first concocted? Of course not. All of these dishes would be pretty
> standard fare in the mid 20th century.
>
> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
> mocking Dataw.

The term "mid-century cuisine" is confusing to these gentle readers. It's a weird way of saying 1950's American food. Mostly people like to make fun of the menu of this Dataw place but the bland midWestern fare is probably well suited to the old folks that live at the enclave.

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 20:44:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>> mocking Dataw.
>>
>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>
>AS bad sounding one.

Not nearly as bad sounding as that ******** where you live.
http://discoverdataw.com/7_history.php

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
> wrote:

> Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
> dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
> Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
> in the 1500s. It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

And I thought Dataw meant "the shooters marble". It is good to know the
"real definition". Thanks Ed!

leo

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 3:36:27 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:40:44 PM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >
> >
> > What do they mean by "mid-century"? That is when these dishes were
> > first concocted? Of course not. All of these dishes would be pretty
> > standard fare in the mid 20th century.
> >
> > You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
> > mocking Dataw.
>
> The term "mid-century cuisine" is confusing to these gentle readers. It's a weird way of saying 1950's American food. Mostly people like to make fun of the menu of this Dataw place but the bland midWestern fare is probably well suited to the old folks that live at the enclave.

Confusing to you, perhaps. You suffer from tunnel vision as badly as
any "old folks that live at the enclave".

I googled "Hawaii hotel menu 1950s", and it was every bit as bland as
the menu currently under discussion. Those dishes were very common
in hotel cuisine throughout the U.S. at that time.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 12:19:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Confusing to you, perhaps. You suffer from tunnel vision as badly as
> any "old folks that live at the enclave".
>
> I googled "Hawaii hotel menu 1950s", and it was every bit as bland as
> the menu currently under discussion. Those dishes were very common
> in hotel cuisine throughout the U.S. at that time.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

My guess is that this food service caters to a mostly elderly population of retired white folks and not the population at large. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

The meals/menus prepared at the restaurant/country club is pretty bland. That's on purpose and entirely appropriate. I've been around the dining rooms of enough retirement communities to know this. I don't understand how the menus of 1950's Waikiki hotels bears any relevance to my post. Please illuminate me on this.

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 12:19:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Confusing to you, perhaps. You suffer from tunnel vision as badly as
> > any "old folks that live at the enclave".
> >
> > I googled "Hawaii hotel menu 1950s", and it was every bit as bland as
> > the menu currently under discussion. Those dishes were very common
> > in hotel cuisine throughout the U.S. at that time.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> My guess is that this food service caters to a mostly elderly population of retired white folks and not the population at large. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
>
> The meals/menus prepared at the restaurant/country club is pretty bland. That's on purpose and entirely appropriate. I've been around the dining rooms of enough retirement communities to know this. I don't understand how the menus of 1950's Waikiki hotels bears any relevance to my post. Please illuminate me on this.

Similar vintage (mid-Century). Similarly bland.

Honestly, though, I can't think of anything blander than a plate
lunch. Loco Moco, chicken katsu (anything katsu, really), and
TWO starches.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 9:08:57 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Similar vintage (mid-Century). Similarly bland.
>
> Honestly, though, I can't think of anything blander than a plate
> lunch. Loco Moco, chicken katsu (anything katsu, really), and
> TWO starches.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

The Waikiki hotels back in the 50's catered mostly to haole tourists and that's what those people ate. Waikiki hotels still tend to serve bland food. That's not much of a problem. Just step out of the hotel and hit the streets.

The plates you mention are pretty bland. Their main purpose is to load up the diner with carbs so they can go surfing, or go build a hotel, or work that second job. It is a simple matter of form following function.

Last night I had some lemongrass chicken and garlic shrimp splashed with some Sriracha and chili paste. My son had a pork chop layered with chili paste. I thought that was pretty outrageous but that's kids for you. Whether or not one chooses to eat blandly is a personal matter. I'd rather not myself..

On 6/25/2018 12:51 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 14:20:44 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/23/2018 11:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>>> mocking Dataw.
>>>
>>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>>
>> The original name of the island was Datha.
>
> And Datha was a native Cofitachequi paramount chief of the area near
> Frogmore and established around 1300.
>
Yep! I don't know why the marketing nuts changed the name of the island
to Dataw. Maybe they thought no one could pronounce Datha. <shrug>

As for Frogmore, according to Wikipedia: "John Grayson, an early owner,
named it Frogmore after his ancestral home in England." (Frogmore - the
one in England - is where Prince Harry and his bride held their wedding
reception.)

Frogmore Plantation still exists:

http://www.nationalregister.sc.gov/b...7051/index.htm

> I also just learned what tabby and shell middens are - the Beaufort
> area having a huge supply of the later to make the former.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sams_P...ex_Tabby_Ruins
>
> -sw
>
Tabby was very common in construction back in the day. There was (still
is) an abundance of oyster shells, why not make use of them?

The ruins of the Sams Plantation are interesting.

Jill

On 6/24/2018 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/24/2018 1:08 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>>> mocking Dataw.
>>>
>>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>>
>> probably some cultural misappropriation.Â* likely racist, too.
>
> Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
> dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
> Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
> in the 1500s.Â* It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

There's still abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

There's nothing racist about the name Dataw. The original name of this
island was Datha, after an Indian (excuse me, Native American) tribal
chief over 700 years ago. When it was decided to develop the island in
the 1980's it was renamed Dataw. Perhaps in the native tongue that was
how it was pronounced. The change in spelling could be purely phonetic.

My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries. I know
for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
McKewen. We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
has a way of being changed as time goes on.

Jill

On 6/27/2018 2:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries. I know
> for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
> McKewen. We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
> has a way of being changed as time goes on.
>
Start doing genealogy, and you will see many variations in how names are
spelled. I went to school with a girl whose first and second cousins had
5 different spellings of the family name.
I've only met one other McQuown - I went to acting school with him, many
years ago. It seems to be one of the less common variations.

> On 6/27/2018 2:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries. I know
> for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
> McKewen. We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
> has a way of being changed as time goes on.

Hey, maybe you're related to Rod McKuen, I love his poetry.

Cheri

On 2018-06-27 11:38 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 6/27/2018 2:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries.Â* I know
>> for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
>> McKewen.Â* We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
>> has a way of being changed as time goes on.
>>
> Start doing genealogy, and you will see many variations in how names are
> spelled. I went to school with a girl whose first and second cousins had
> 5 different spellings of the family name.
> I've only met one other McQuown - I went to acting school with him, many
> years ago. It seems to be one of the less common variations.
>
An aunt was a resource in our village for people searching the B&D
records in the church. As she was familiar with the dialect and accent,
she could transliterate the phonetic spellings that the parsons had used
over the centuries.

On 6/28/2018 2:20 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-06-27 11:38 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 6/27/2018 2:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries. I know
>>> for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
>>> McKewen. We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
>>> has a way of being changed as time goes on.
>>>
>> Start doing genealogy, and you will see many variations in how names
>> are spelled. I went to school with a girl whose first and second
>> cousins had 5 different spellings of the family name.
>> I've only met one other McQuown - I went to acting school with him,
>> many years ago. It seems to be one of the less common variations.
>>
> An aunt was a resource in our village for people searching the B&D
> records in the church. As she was familiar with the dialect and accent,
> she could transliterate the phonetic spellings that the parsons had used
> over the centuries.

Some of those spellings can be amusing.
In the case of Jill's name, there can be even more confusion, as the
name was originally Gaelic.

In article >, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> Start doing genealogy, and you will see many variations in how names are
> spelled. I went to school with a girl whose first and second cousins had
> 5 different spellings of the family name.
> I've only met one other McQuown - I went to acting school with him, many
> years ago. It seems to be one of the less common variations.

I googled "spellings of Blaisdell". It lists fourteen and says there
are many more. I thought I was special.

leo

In article >, Sqwertz
> wrote:

> Are you related to Milburn Drysdale, the greedy bank president in
> Beverly Hills?

Uncle Drysdale lost his millions to Jethro. Luckily his son Don was a
fair to middling pitcher, so Milburn didn't die in poverty.

leo

On 6/28/2018 1:38 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 6/27/2018 2:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries.Â* I know
>> for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
>> McKewen.Â* We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
>> has a way of being changed as time goes on.
>>
> Start doing genealogy, and you will see many variations in how names are
> spelled. I went to school with a girl whose first and second cousins had
> 5 different spellings of the family name.
> I've only met one other McQuown - I went to acting school with him, many
> years ago. It seems to be one of the less common variations.
>
One of my great uncle's traced the paternal family history back to 1679
in Scotland (to the Battle of Bothwell Bridge.) He did this decades
before there were personal computers or ancestry sites online. (Heck, he
died before I was born.) From what I understand it took him over 20
years to piece the information together. He went through old church
records, land grants, deeds, birth/marriage/death certificates, old
letters and diaries in archives. Quite a feat!

Jill

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:20:23 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:

> An aunt was a resource in our village for people searching the B&D
> records in the church. As she was familiar with the dialect and accent,
> she could transliterate the phonetic spellings that the parsons had used
> over the centuries.

Genealogy is a big part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They probably have the biggest, most comprehensive, database of family connections on the planet. They've spent a lot of time and money collecting this data and have been doing so since the mid-eighties.

Family trees are getting very popular since it's become so easy peasy to get the info. My guess is that most of the internet genealogy services pay the Mormon Church a fee for using their data or these services are a part of the Mormon Church. My guess is that once they get the name of every single name of whoever has lived, Jesus will return back to mankind.

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:20:23 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:

> An aunt was a resource in our village for people searching the B&D
> records in the church. As she was familiar with the dialect and accent,
> she could transliterate the phonetic spellings that the parsons had used
> over the centuries.

Genealogy is a big part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They probably have the biggest, most comprehensive, database of family connections on the planet. They've spent a lot of time and money collecting this data and have been doing so since the mid-eighties.

Family trees are getting very popular since it's become so easy peasy to get the info. My guess is that most of the internet genealogy services pay the Mormon Church a fee for using their data or these services are a part of the Mormon Church. My guess is that once they get the name of every single name of whoever has lived, Jesus will return back to mankind.