Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.

https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg

I actually don't mind the idea of "Swedish meatballs" but I think of
them more as an appetizer than a main dish.

I love Beef Stroganoff. That was one of the few dishes my mother made
when I was a child that she excelled at cooking. She used very good
beef. It was cut into very thin strips. I do believe it was tenderloin.

Seafood newburg? Sure, why not? I have some large scallop shells for
baking this creamy eafood dish. Given to me buy a neighbor. Seafood
Newburg may be served over pattie shells, rice or noodles. Me, I'd just
use a fork and eat it out of the shell.

Chicken Kiev can be fun but the cold herbed butter in the chicken will
eventually be hot and squirt out when you cut into the chicken. LOL
Still quite delicious. Lots of garlic and herbs in the chilled butter,
as I recall.

Mid Century? Sure. No reason it can't still be tasty!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.
>
> https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg
>
> I actually don't mind the idea of "Swedish meatballs" but I think of them
> more as an appetizer than a main dish.
>
> I love Beef Stroganoff. That was one of the few dishes my mother made
> when I was a child that she excelled at cooking. She used very good beef.
> It was cut into very thin strips. I do believe it was tenderloin.
>
> Seafood newburg? Sure, why not? I have some large scallop shells for
> baking this creamy eafood dish. Given to me buy a neighbor. Seafood
> Newburg may be served over pattie shells, rice or noodles. Me, I'd just
> use a fork and eat it out of the shell.
>
> Chicken Kiev can be fun but the cold herbed butter in the chicken will
> eventually be hot and squirt out when you cut into the chicken. LOL Still
> quite delicious. Lots of garlic and herbs in the chilled butter, as I
> recall.
>
> Mid Century? Sure. No reason it can't still be tasty!
>
> Jill

"White Castle"? That's funny.

On 6/20/2018 6:28 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:14:31 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.
>>
>> https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg
>
> Wagu? That's the new breed of Chinese cow that are fed melamine.
>
> None of those dishes are "mid-century". Most are early 1900's with
> a few 1800's.
>
> -sw
>
They didn't say "which" century. LOL

Jill

On 6/22/2018 12:38 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:40:57 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2018 6:28 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:14:31 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh how fun! Let's see what they consider Mid Century.
>>>>
>>>> https://s22.postimg.cc/ib885d6dd/midcentury.jpg
>>>
>>> Wagu? That's the new breed of Chinese cow that are fed melamine.
>>>
>>> None of those dishes are "mid-century". Most are early 1900's with
>>> a few 1800's.
>>>
>> They didn't say "which" century. LOL
>
> Early 1900's and late 1800's are still not mid-century.
>
> -sw
>


What do they mean by "mid-century"? That is when these dishes were
first concocted? Of course not. All of these dishes would be pretty
standard fare in the mid 20th century.

You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
mocking Dataw.

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:40:44 PM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>
> What do they mean by "mid-century"? That is when these dishes were
> first concocted? Of course not. All of these dishes would be pretty
> standard fare in the mid 20th century.
>
> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
> mocking Dataw.

The term "mid-century cuisine" is confusing to these gentle readers. It's a weird way of saying 1950's American food. Mostly people like to make fun of the menu of this Dataw place but the bland midWestern fare is probably well suited to the old folks that live at the enclave.

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 3:36:27 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:40:44 PM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >
> >
> > What do they mean by "mid-century"? That is when these dishes were
> > first concocted? Of course not. All of these dishes would be pretty
> > standard fare in the mid 20th century.
> >
> > You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
> > mocking Dataw.
>
> The term "mid-century cuisine" is confusing to these gentle readers. It's a weird way of saying 1950's American food. Mostly people like to make fun of the menu of this Dataw place but the bland midWestern fare is probably well suited to the old folks that live at the enclave.

Confusing to you, perhaps. You suffer from tunnel vision as badly as
any "old folks that live at the enclave".

I googled "Hawaii hotel menu 1950s", and it was every bit as bland as
the menu currently under discussion. Those dishes were very common
in hotel cuisine throughout the U.S. at that time.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 12:19:12 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Confusing to you, perhaps. You suffer from tunnel vision as badly as
> any "old folks that live at the enclave".
>
> I googled "Hawaii hotel menu 1950s", and it was every bit as bland as
> the menu currently under discussion. Those dishes were very common
> in hotel cuisine throughout the U.S. at that time.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

My guess is that this food service caters to a mostly elderly population of retired white folks and not the population at large. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

The meals/menus prepared at the restaurant/country club is pretty bland. That's on purpose and entirely appropriate. I've been around the dining rooms of enough retirement communities to know this. I don't understand how the menus of 1950's Waikiki hotels bears any relevance to my post. Please illuminate me on this.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>> mocking Dataw.
>
> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?

AS bad sounding one.

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 20:44:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>> mocking Dataw.
>>
>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>
>AS bad sounding one.

Not nearly as bad sounding as that ******** where you live.
http://discoverdataw.com/7_history.php

On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>> mocking Dataw.
>
> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>
> -sw
>

probably some cultural misappropriation. likely racist, too.

On 6/24/2018 1:08 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>> mocking Dataw.
>>
>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> probably some cultural misappropriation.Â* likely racist, too.

Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
in the 1500s. It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

On 6/24/2018 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/24/2018 1:08 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>>> mocking Dataw.
>>>
>>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>>
>> probably some cultural misappropriation.Â* likely racist, too.
>
> Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
> dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
> Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
> in the 1500s.Â* It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

Yes, Ed. The original name of this island was Datha. These islands
were inhabited by Native Americans well before any other country (first
it was the Spanish, then the English) decided to claim and colonize it.

The area is still abundant when it comes to game and seafood. Much of
the local restaurants use freshly caught seafood. Shrimp season just
officially opened in the area. Also blue crab.

Jill

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
> wrote:

> Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
> dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
> Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
> in the 1500s. It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

And I thought Dataw meant "the shooters marble". It is good to know the
"real definition". Thanks Ed!

leo

On 6/24/2018 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/24/2018 1:08 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 6/23/2018 8:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>>> mocking Dataw.
>>>
>>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>>
>> probably some cultural misappropriation.Â* likely racist, too.
>
> Dataw meaning is to catch or take something from and the definition of a
> dataw is a word that expresses action or a state of being.
> Indians lived on the island about 4500 years ago, the Spanish arriving
> in the 1500s.Â* It had abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

There's still abundant game to hunt and seafood to catch.

There's nothing racist about the name Dataw. The original name of this
island was Datha, after an Indian (excuse me, Native American) tribal
chief over 700 years ago. When it was decided to develop the island in
the 1980's it was renamed Dataw. Perhaps in the native tongue that was
how it was pronounced. The change in spelling could be purely phonetic.

My surname has been misspelled many times over the centuries. I know
for a fact I'm related to someone in the midwest who spells his name
McKewen. We've established common relatives but the spelling of names
has a way of being changed as time goes on.

Jill

On 6/23/2018 11:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>> mocking Dataw.
>
> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>
> -sw
>
The original name of the island was Datha.

Jill

On 6/25/2018 12:51 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 14:20:44 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/23/2018 11:29 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:40:41 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> You people really need to quit mocking Dataw just for the sake of
>>>> mocking Dataw.
>>>
>>> What the hell kind of name is "Dataw", anyway?
>>>
>> The original name of the island was Datha.
>
> And Datha was a native Cofitachequi paramount chief of the area near
> Frogmore and established around 1300.
>
Yep! I don't know why the marketing nuts changed the name of the island
to Dataw. Maybe they thought no one could pronounce Datha. <shrug>

As for Frogmore, according to Wikipedia: "John Grayson, an early owner,
named it Frogmore after his ancestral home in England." (Frogmore - the
one in England - is where Prince Harry and his bride held their wedding
reception.)

Frogmore Plantation still exists:

http://www.nationalregister.sc.gov/b...7051/index.htm

> I also just learned what tabby and shell middens are - the Beaufort
> area having a huge supply of the later to make the former.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sams_P...ex_Tabby_Ruins
>
> -sw
>
Tabby was very common in construction back in the day. There was (still
is) an abundance of oyster shells, why not make use of them?

The ruins of the Sams Plantation are interesting.

Jill