Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
proclamations to the same.

Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.

I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
oven fer about 20-30 mins.

If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
tossed the rest.

I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
for that problem.

nb

On 4/29/2018 10:51 AM, notbob wrote:
> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
> Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
> same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
> half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.

It's amazing, you cut them in half and still it's a meal for 2.
And not two wimpy eaters, either.

> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.

Dehydrated chicken, yum.

> I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
> have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
> for that problem.

There's probably a lot of that kind of thing going on in Colorado these
days. Heh. Just kidding. The legal system hasn't managed to stop
that particular cure anywhere.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 10:51 AM, notbob wrote:
> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
> Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
> same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
> half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.


When it comes to chicken breast there is a fine line between cooked and
overcooked. You went way over that line.
>
> I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
> have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
> for that problem.

Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
there are plans for another.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
> There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
> there are plans for another.

It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.

Gary wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
> > There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
> > there are plans for another.
>
> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.


Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.

Colorado has been flooded with huge numbers of homeless, they can move to CO and get a Medicaid scrip for free pot, I mean, what is not to lose?

So, another lovely place is on the road to ruin...

<shaking head>


--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 08:55:03 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
>> > There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
>> > there are plans for another.
>>
>> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
>> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
>> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
>> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
>> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.
>
>
>Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.

Legalise pot and focus your resources on the hard drugs. That's the
way to go. Countries that are many years ahead of the US have proven
that. Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
the land of the not so free.

On 2018-04-29 3:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 08:55:03 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> > wrote:
>
>> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.
>
> Legalise pot and focus your resources on the hard drugs. That's the
> way to go. Countries that are many years ahead of the US have proven
> that. Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
> the land of the not so free.

I went to university in the early 70s. Just about everyone smoked pot.
Most of them went on to successful careers. I know doctors and lawyers
who smoked pot. It is not a gateway drug, but having it available only
from dealers puts pot smokers into a criminal subculture where they are
more likely to encounter harder drugs. Keep it legal and let the black
market implode.

I am not sure our provincial government is tackling the black market.
They apparently set the price at $10 per gram, and of course they
figured they should add a special tax, along with the harmonized
provincial and federal sales tax. They originally planned to have only
a few stores. The closest to me was going to be in Hamilton, so it would
be about an hour drive each way and then the prices would be about the
same as it would be from a dealer. If I were interested in smoking pot I
could save the two hours of driving and half a tank of gas and get it
from the local dealer.

There are already lots of people I know who have prescriptions for it
and order it online and get it delivered.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
> the land of the not so free.

My only disagee is I think alcohol is worse than pot as far as
how messed up you can get. But the USA banned alcohol almost 100
years ago and all they did was create an entire new criminal
class. Once legalized, most of the illegal gangster stuff died
out. My mom went back to being a little girl again. Same
should be with pot. It's a baby drug, imo. No worse than having a
few beers.

In the early 1990's, there was a small article in my newspaper.
Some guy right here in Virginia Beach was stopped and he had 2.5
ounces of pot on him. That amount not only got him charged for
possession but also with "intent to sell." He was sentenced to
30 years in the state prison for being some evil drug dealer.

Virginia also has/had a no parole policy.
That poor fellow might even still be in prison. unbelievable.

On 4/29/2018 11:55 AM, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:

>
> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.

I do know of one person that smokes and was able to stop a couple of
prescription drugs, but, I'm sure many abuse the ability to get it.

I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
gateway personalities and addictive tendencies. If not marijuana, it
would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
problems of overdose.


>
> Colorado has been flooded with huge numbers of homeless, they can move to CO and get a Medicaid scrip for free pot, I mean, what is not to lose?
>
> So, another lovely place is on the road to ruin...
>
> <shaking head>

I can see that happening

On 2018-04-29 5:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 11:55 AM, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:
>
>>
>> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot.Â* As
>> for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot
>> "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway"
>> drug.
>
> I do know of one person that smokes and was able to stop a couple of
> prescription drugs, but, I'm sure many abuse the ability to get it.
>
> I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
> gateway personalities and addictive tendencies.Â* If not marijuana, it
> would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
> problems of overdose.
>

>
Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?

On 2018-04-29 11:44 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
>> There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
>> there are plans for another.
>
> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.

There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young. Based on
what I smell when I am driving around by motorcycle or out bicycling, I
would say that lots of people are already driving around stoned. I don't
imagine that legalization is going to make it any more of a problem.

If this was happening 30-40 years ago I would have been lined up at the
doors on opening day of the pot shops, but I have no interest in it
now. The last thing I need right now is to take up a form of smoking, or
getting a case of the munchies.

On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.

It's been my observation that people should worry more about
people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
for a joint and winding up with a record.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.


Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk. A couple says ago I
was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
see that he was looking at a hand held device.
>
> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.

That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:57:09 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>for a joint and winding up with a record.

And the guy who throws you in jail then goes home and hits the
bourbon.

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news
On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.

It's been my observation that people should worry more about
people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
for a joint and winding up with a record.

nancy

==

Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
one you will be in real trouble.

On 4/29/2018 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
I've been seeing ads for Ford vehicles with "parental controls". It's a
separate clicker gadget. The ads feature teens complaining to their
parents that their cell phones go straight to voicemail when they're in
the car. The music can't be cranked up [to the point you can't hear
emergency vehicles]. The car won't go over x MPH. Sounds like a good
use for technology. It may be geared towards parents but there have
been plenty of times when I wished I could just point and click at a car
to turn the *blasting* music down or shut off their cell phones.

> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
I see no point in throwing the Average Joe in prison for, say, 5 years,
for nothing more than the possession of a couple of joints.

Jill

On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> If this was happening 30-40 years ago I would have been lined up at the
> doors on opening day of the pot shops,Â* but I have no interest in it
> now. The last thing I need right now is to take up a form of smoking, or
> getting a case of the munchies.

You never heard of pot brownies or muffins? Seems like that would take
care of the munchies problem at the same time.

Jill

notbob wrote:

> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
> Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
> same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
> half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.
>
> I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
> have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
> for that problem.


Pot legalization has started Colorado down the path of ultimately becoming a Kalifornia - style ********...


--
Best
Greg

On 29 Apr 2018 14:51:08 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
>done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
>mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
>proclamations to the same.
>
>Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
>same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
>half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
>I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
>oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
>to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
>oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
>If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
>I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
>breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
>Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
>tossed the rest.
>
>I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
>have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
>for that problem.
>
>nb

Sorry to smiles but...

On 29 Apr 2018 14:51:08 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
>done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
>mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
>proclamations to the same.
>
>Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
>same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
>half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
>I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
>oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
>to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
>oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
>If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
>I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
>breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
>Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
>tossed the rest.
>
>I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
>have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
>for that problem.
>
>nb

Much better to slice them bazooms into cutlets, season, and gently pan
fry... did that with boneless pork chops this morning, will be for
dinner with pasta... at the same time also fried some Eyetalian
saw-seege. Variety is the spice of life.

On 4/29/2018 10:51 AM, notbob wrote:
> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
Yep!

> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
I'd have just finished it in the skillet. Only takes a few minutes.

> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.
>
Ooops, nb!

Jill