On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:42:20 -0500, wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:10:40 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:25:20 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 3:28:42 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I know
>>>> > my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>> > she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>> > when we go out.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Hahahaaaa, it's hard getting my brother out of his overalls.
>>>
>>>Crowbar, then stand the overalls up in the corner.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>Out here hardly anyone wears slacks. It's work jeans, regular jeans
>>and dress-up jeans.
>>Janet US
>
>Dress-up jeans... would be Sunday go to church denims?

yes, wasn't I clear about dress-up?

"Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/18/2017 6:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc.
>>>>>> Hallmark
>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>
>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>
>>
>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs
>> you hypocritical nutcase.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> The guy has gone right round the bend!


He's on his second or third trip around it!

Cheri

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:03:34 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:42:20 -0500, wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:10:40 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:25:20 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 3:28:42 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I know
>>>>> > my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>> > she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>> > when we go out.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> Hahahaaaa, it's hard getting my brother out of his overalls.
>>>>
>>>>Crowbar, then stand the overalls up in the corner.
>>>>
>>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>Out here hardly anyone wears slacks. It's work jeans, regular jeans
>>>and dress-up jeans.
>>>Janet US
>>
>>Dress-up jeans... would be Sunday go to church denims?
>
>yes, wasn't I clear about dress-up?

Nope... not all denims are jeans denim... one can purchase clothing of
dress denim... I have a denim suit made of material that's not
suitable for jeans, I have cargo pants likewise, Dockers®.

wrote:
>
> You wre never in the military or you would know Khaki.

Nope. Never in the military. They had their chance to get me
during the draft lottery of 1972 but I got a high number and they
were ending it anyway. I moved to Va.Beach instead of Nam that
summer.

That said, I have had some old khaki pants but just never knew
how to spell it. Spelling looks like some foreign spelling to
me....like maybe from India or somewhere.

"Casa del Sol naciente" wrote in message
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On 12/18/2017 8:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 4:53:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>
>>> Out here hardly anyone wears slacks. It's work jeans, regular jeans
>>> and dress-up jeans.
>>
>> About the same for me here. White painting clothes for work.
>> Jeans and decent shirts for home and store. I even have old and
>> new jeans....old for just around the house, then switch to newer
>> jeans to shop or go to the doctor, dentist, etc. Whatever.
>>
>> I would like to buy a couple of pairs of ...(the popular tan
>> pants...aka cackie LOL! I don't know how to spell that and the
>> darn spell checker isn't helping either). Y'all know what I mean
>> though.
>>
>> BTW, just how the hell DO you spell that anyway? All it takes is
>> one proper answer then I'll know. I could use a bit of education
>> here.
>
> "Khaki"
>

Now the prounciation...

Kah-key?

Or Kacki?

==

Kah-key

--
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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> Dumbass "Gary" wrote:
> BTW, just how the hell DO you spell that anyway? All it takes is
> one proper answer then I'll know. I could use a bit of education
> here.
>
> ==
>
> Khaki

You win, first answer and I checked it.
Gee thanks, O! :-D

==

<g>

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In article >,
says...
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 4:53:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> > >
> > > Out here hardly anyone wears slacks. It's work jeans, regular jeans
> > > and dress-up jeans.
> >
> > About the same for me here. White painting clothes for work.
> > Jeans and decent shirts for home and store. I even have old and
> > new jeans....old for just around the house, then switch to newer
> > jeans to shop or go to the doctor, dentist, etc. Whatever.
> >
> > I would like to buy a couple of pairs of ...(the popular tan
> > pants...aka cackie LOL! I don't know how to spell that and the
> > darn spell checker isn't helping either). Y'all know what I mean
> > though.
> >
> > BTW, just how the hell DO you spell that anyway? All it takes is
> > one proper answer then I'll know. I could use a bit of education
> > here.
>
> "Khaki"

In grubby Gary's case, "cackie pants" is probably the right word.

Janet UK

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc. Hallmark
>>>>>ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>>>>>things
>>>>>like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>Christmas
>>>>>rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>> when we go out.
>>>
>>>
>>>I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>
>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>
>
>I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
>hypocritical nutcase.

So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.

On 12/18/2017 12:48 PM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> You wre never in the military or you would know Khaki.
>
> Nope. Never in the military. They had their chance to get me
> during the draft lottery of 1972 but I got a high number and they
> were ending it anyway. I moved to Va.Beach instead of Nam that
> summer.
>
> That said, I have had some old khaki pants but just never knew
> how to spell it. Spelling looks like some foreign spelling to
> me....like maybe from India or somewhere.
>


Not far off according to Wikipedia
Khaki is a loanword from Hindustani (Urdu or Hindi) ख़ाकी/خاکی
'soil-colored', which in turn comes from Persian خاک [xɒ�k] khâk 'soil'
+ ی- (adjectival ending); it came into English via the British Indian
Army.[3]

On 12/18/2017 10:35 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 12/18/2017 6:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc.
>>>>>>> Hallmark
>>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived,
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>>
>>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot
>>> dogs you hypocritical nutcase.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> The guy has gone right round the bend!
>
>
> He's on his second or third trip around it!
>
> Cheri


Ah ha!

NASCAR then...

;-)

On 12/18/2017 10:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Casa del Sol naciente"Â* wrote in message
> news >
> On 12/18/2017 8:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 4:53:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Out here hardly anyone wears slacks.Â* It's work jeans, regular jeans
>>>> and dress-up jeans.
>>>
>>> About the same for me here. White painting clothes for work.
>>> Jeans and decent shirts for home and store. I even have old and
>>> new jeans....old for just around the house, then switch to newer
>>> jeans to shop or go to the doctor, dentist, etc. Whatever.
>>>
>>> I would like to buy a couple of pairs of ...(the popular tan
>>> pants...akaÂ* cackie LOL! I don't know how to spell that and the
>>> darn spell checker isn't helping either). Y'all know what I mean
>>> though.
>>>
>>> BTW, just how the hell DO you spell that anyway? All it takes is
>>> one proper answer then I'll know. I could use a bit of education
>>> here.Â*
>>
>> "Khaki"
>>
>
> Now the prounciation...
>
> Kah-key?
>
> Or Kacki?
>
> ==
>
> Kah-key
>

OK, I agree with you.

But most Americans say it the other way.

Or even both!

"Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/18/2017 10:35 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 12/18/2017 6:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc.
>>>>>>>> Hallmark
>>>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived,
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs
>>>> you hypocritical nutcase.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> The guy has gone right round the bend!
>>
>>
>> He's on his second or third trip around it!
>>
>> Cheri
>
>
> Ah ha!
>
> NASCAR then...
>
> ;-)


You can't be decent to the *Richard Edward* without him coming back with a
snotty remark, so around the bend he goes again.

Cheri

"Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
news
> On 12/18/2017 10:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>> Now the prounciation...
>>
>> Kah-key?
>>
>> Or Kacki?
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Kah-key
>>
>
> OK, I agree with you.
>
> But most Americans say it the other way.
>
> Or even both!


I've only ever heard it as Kacki.

Cheri

On 2017-12-18 9:10 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:25:20 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

>> Crowbar, then stand the overalls up in the corner.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Out here hardly anyone wears slacks. It's work jeans, regular jeans
> and dress-up jeans.

They are usually all the same jeans, but they go through the sequence.
They start off as dress-up jeans. After a while they become the regular
jeans, and when they start showing wear and tear they become work jeans.

On 12/18/2017 12:09 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 12/18/2017 10:35 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On 12/18/2017 6:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc.
>>>>>>>>> Hallmark
>>>>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some
>>>>>>>>> cookies and
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with
>>>>>>>>> the Christmas
>>>>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already
>>>>>>>> arrived, will
>>>>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn
>>>>>>>> outfits
>>>>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot
>>>>> dogs you hypocritical nutcase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> The guy has gone right round the bend!
>>>
>>>
>>> He's on his second or third trip around it!
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>>
>> Ah ha!
>>
>> NASCAR then...
>>
>> ;-)
>
>
> You can't be decent to the *Richard Edward* without him coming back with
> a snotty remark, so around the bend he goes again.
>
> Cheri

:-)))

On 12/18/2017 12:11 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 12/18/2017 10:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>> Now the prounciation...
>>>
>>> Kah-key?
>>>
>>> Or Kacki?
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Kah-key
>>>
>>
>> OK, I agree with you.
>>
>> But most Americans say it the other way.
>>
>> Or even both!
>
>
> I've only ever heard it as Kacki.
>
> Cheri


See there!

I's confused again.

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:40:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc. Hallmark
> >>>>>ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
> >>>>>things
> >>>>>like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
> >>>>>Christmas
> >>>>>rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheri
> >>>>
> >>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
> >>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
> >>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
> >>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
> >>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
> >>>> when we go out.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
> >>
> >> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
> >
> >
> >I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
> >hypocritical nutcase.
>
> So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
> mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.

Not just her, doofus. Most people in the Western world.

Calves and piglets are cute, and that wouldn't stop me from
eating them.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/18/2017 1:39 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:40:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc. Hallmark
>>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
>>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>>
>>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
>>> hypocritical nutcase.
>>
>> So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
>> mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.
>
> Not just her, doofus. Most people in the Western world.
>
> Calves and piglets are cute, and that wouldn't stop me from
> eating them.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

These too:

http://files.mom.me/photos/2012/05/2...1337785358.jpg

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:40:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc. Hallmark
>> >>>>>ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>> >>>>>things
>> >>>>>like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>> >>>>>Christmas
>> >>>>>rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Cheri
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>> >>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
>> >>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>> >>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>> >>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>> >>>> when we go out.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>> >>
>> >> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>> >
>> >
>> >I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
>> >hypocritical nutcase.
>>
>> So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
>> mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.
>
>Not just her, doofus. Most people in the Western world.

Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 3:52:18 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:40:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> .. .
> >> >> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc. Hallmark
> >> >>>>>ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
> >> >>>>>things
> >> >>>>>like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
> >> >>>>>Christmas
> >> >>>>>rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Cheri
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
> >> >>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
> >> >>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
> >> >>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
> >> >>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
> >> >>>> when we go out.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
> >> >>
> >> >> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
> >> >hypocritical nutcase.
> >>
> >> So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
> >> mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.
> >
> >Not just her, doofus. Most people in the Western world.
>
> Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
> collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.

Eating meat promotes toxic masculinity:

<http://video.foxnews.com/v/5684306140001/?playlist_id=4607808626001#sp=show-clips>

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:29:53 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 3:52:18 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:40:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> .. .
>> >> >> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
>> >> >hypocritical nutcase.
>> >>
>> >> So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
>> >> mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.
>> >
>> >Not just her, doofus. Most people in the Western world.
>>
>> Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
>> collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.
>
>Eating meat promotes toxic masculinity:
>
><http://video.foxnews.com/v/5684306140001/?playlist_id=4607808626001#sp=show-clips>

Would that explain why Cheri's so aggressive?

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:35:23 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Casa del Sol naciente" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 12/18/2017 6:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc.
>>>>>>> Hallmark
>>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
>>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>>
>>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs
>>> you hypocritical nutcase.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> The guy has gone right round the bend!
>
>He's on his second or third trip around it!
>
>Cheri

Via the Cheap China Coolie Express.

On 12/18/2017 2:29 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 3:52:18 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:40:17 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:50:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:00:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 10:09:11 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mine too, money for the kids, grandkids, great grandkids etc. Hallmark
>>>>>>>>> ornaments as well, that's pretty much it. I do make some cookies and
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> like that, but this year, not too many. I am burned out with the
>>>>>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>>>>> rush and have decided not to get so involved this year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I gifted two local animal shelters with cash.
>>>>>>>> I bought my wife a new golf bag... she picked... already arrived, will
>>>>>>>> be sitting idle til spring. I don't have anyone else to gift. I know
>>>>>>>> my wife will be gifting me a couple pairs of nice pants and shirts,
>>>>>>>> she really doesn't like me wearing my everyday farmer's barn outfits
>>>>>>>> when we go out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I give to our animal rescue group during the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then you eat a dead animal the same day. Schizo much?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't eat the shelter animals John, and I certainly don't shoot dogs you
>>>>> hypocritical nutcase.
>>>>
>>>> So you find some animals cute and cuddly and others you eat. That's
>>>> mentally ill behaviour. I don't shoot dogs either, by the way.
>>>
>>> Not just her, doofus. Most people in the Western world.
>>
>> Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
>> collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.
>
> Eating meat promotes toxic masculinity:
>
> <http://video.foxnews.com/v/5684306140001/?playlist_id=4607808626001#sp=show-clips>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


You saw what we did to Mastodons...and then the Buffalo...

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 17:43:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-12-18 3:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
>> Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
>> collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.
>
>For some reason, we are supposed to apologize for it. We had nothing to
>do with it. We did not own or trade slaves. Slavery was never much of an
>institution here. As soon as it became an issue the government of the
>time acted to get rid of it. I live in a country that is 150 years old,
>and slavery had been abolished long before it became an independent
>country. Yet, I still hear people talking about the effects of 500
>years of slavery. It was an institution in another country by people
>more than 150 years ago. Apologies from people today for the actions of
>other people 6 generations ago aren't anywhere near the apology of the
>people who committed those wrongs.

Not that this has anything to do with what I said, but I agree with
you.

On 2017-12-18 3:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

> Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
> collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.

For some reason, we are supposed to apologize for it. We had nothing to
do with it. We did not own or trade slaves. Slavery was never much of an
institution here. As soon as it became an issue the government of the
time acted to get rid of it. I live in a country that is 150 years old,
and slavery had been abolished long before it became an independent
country. Yet, I still hear people talking about the effects of 500
years of slavery. It was an institution in another country by people
more than 150 years ago. Apologies from people today for the actions of
other people 6 generations ago aren't anywhere near the apology of the
people who committed those wrongs.

On 12/18/2017 5:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-12-18 3:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:39:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
>> Yes it's collective, dingleberry. Just like people used to
>> collectively think that slavery was ok. Now we know it was wrong.
>
> For some reason, we are supposed to apologize for it. We had nothing to
> do with it. We did not own or trade slaves. Slavery was never much of an
> institution here. As soon as it became an issue the government of the
> time acted to get rid of it. I live in a country that is 150 years old,
> and slavery had been abolished long before it became an independent
> country.Â* Yet, I still hear people talking about the effects of 500
> years of slavery. It was an institution in another country by people
> more than 150 years ago. Apologies from people today for the actions of
> other people 6 generations ago aren't anywhere near the apology of the
> people who committed those wrongs.
>
>
Not only that, when it comes to the US, not everyone thought it was
"okay". My family arrived here in 1679-80. They never owned slaves nor
did they condone slavery. Perhaps it was because they were supposed to
be indentured servants themselves.

I live in an area largely populated by decendents of former slaves. The
blacks I know (quite a few) don't expect me to apologize for anything.

Jill

On 12/17/2017 10:01 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> My shopping list is pretty minimal, I give cash to the kids and some
> doodad or another to my sibs.Â* This year it's a trunk pop up bag as
> they keep admiring mine.
>
> Not even sure I'll make cookies this year.Â* nancy
>
My neighbor gifted me with a delicious small homemade loaf of banana nut
bread. Very tasty! At the same time she asked if she could "borrow" a
stick of butter. (Good thing I keep a stock of butter in the freezer,
she never seems to have any!) When she rang the bell she had the
wrapped banana bread in one hand and a measuring cup in the other. Oh,
do you have any sugar? Yes, and no. I gave her (yet another) stick of
butter. Sorry, no sugar. I only buy small quantities of sugar and
that's for the hummingbird feeder.

It was really good banana nut bread! Probably made using the other
stick of butter she'd "borrowed".

Jill

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> I only buy small quantities of sugar and
> that's for the hummingbird feeder.
>
>
Last week my Kroger had 4 pound bags of sugar on sale for 99¢ and I really
didn't need it but it was a good bargain. I think it was part of a buy 4
or 5 items in a list and each item is only 99¢. Anyway, I sealed that
unopened bag in very large Food Saver bag so whenever I'm ready for it,
it won't be hard as a rock.

Another use for the Food Saver!

wrote:
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> I only buy small quantities of sugar and
>> that's for the hummingbird feeder.
>>
>>
> Last week my Kroger had 4 pound bags of sugar on sale for 99¢ and I really
> didn't need it but it was a good bargain. I think it was part of a buy 4
> or 5 items in a list and each item is only 99¢. Anyway, I sealed that
> unopened bag in very large Food Saver bag so whenever I'm ready for it,
> it won't be hard as a rock.
>
> Another use for the Food Saver!
>
Joan, don't you have to add the cost of the food saver bags
to the 99 cents to evaluate how good the sugar savings are?
Penfart actually has a point here about the cost of the bags
(and equipment), of course he consumes food in such massive
quantities that he probably doesn't have to bother storing
much

I sort of wanted a food saver, but the cost of the bags is
pretty high, at least when I last looked (admittedly, some
years ago). The other negative is finding a place to keep
the tool, then having to drag it out all the time. A lot of
my nifty appliances go unused because of this. The last time
I used the george foreman grill, God was still wearing short
pants I guess I'm just lazy as hell.

On the sugar ... I use very little sugar. A 4 lb bag lasts
at least a year, or two. For many years, I have a glass
canister (with rubber seal) which I fill about once per
year, and keep the rest of the bag in a cheap 1 gallon twist
tie bag, and it never develops more that a few lumps (easily
crushed). I'm not in the desert either, in fact very humid
here, but not as bad as further south.

Brown sugar is also stored the same way, but it does not
keep as well as regular white cane sugar.

I hope you guys get good sealers. When I was looking years
ago, I read that some were much more effective than others.

On 2017-12-23 5:17 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> I only buy small quantities of sugar and
>>> that's for the hummingbird feeder.
>>>
>>>
>> Last week my Kroger had 4 pound bags of sugar on sale for 99¢ and I
>> really
>> didn't need it but it was a good bargain.Â* I think it was part of a buy 4
>> or 5 items in a list and each item is only 99¢.Â* Anyway, I sealed that
>> unopened bag in very large Food Saver bag so whenever I'm ready for it,
>> it won't be hard as a rock.
>>
>> Another use for the Food Saver!
>>
> Joan, don't you have to add the cost of the food saver bags to the 99
> cents to evaluate how good the sugar savings are? Penfart actually has a
> point here about the cost of the bags (and equipment), of course he
> consumes food in such massive quantities that he probably doesn't have
> to bother storing much
>
> I sort of wanted a food saver, but the cost of the bags is pretty high,
> at least when I last looked (admittedly, some years ago). The other
> negative is finding a place to keep the tool, then having to drag it out
> all the time. A lot of my nifty appliances go unused because of this.
> The last time I used the george foreman grill, God was still wearing
> short pants I guess I'm just lazy as hell.
>
> On the sugar ... I use very little sugar. A 4 lb bag lasts at least a
> year, or two. For many years, I have a glass canister (with rubber seal)
> which I fill about once per year, and keep the rest of the bag in a
> cheap 1 gallon twist tie bag, and it never develops more that a few
> lumps (easily crushed). I'm not in the desert either, in fact very humid
> here, but not as bad as further south.
>
> Brown sugar is also stored the same way, but it does not keep as well as
> regular white cane sugar.
>
> I hope you guys get good sealers. When I was looking years ago, I read
> that some were much more effective than others.
>
>

On 2017-12-23 5:17 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> I only buy small quantities of sugar and
>>> that's for the hummingbird feeder.
>>>
>>>
>> Last week my Kroger had 4 pound bags of sugar on sale for 99¢ and I
>> really
>> didn't need it but it was a good bargain.Â* I think it was part of a buy 4
>> or 5 items in a list and each item is only 99¢.Â* Anyway, I sealed that
>> unopened bag in very large Food Saver bag so whenever I'm ready for it,
>> it won't be hard as a rock.
>>
>> Another use for the Food Saver!
>>
> Joan, don't you have to add the cost of the food saver bags to the 99
> cents to evaluate how good the sugar savings are? Penfart actually has a
> point here about the cost of the bags (and equipment), of course he
> consumes food in such massive quantities that he probably doesn't have
> to bother storing much

When I got a Food Saver I had a rude surprise when I got a new roll of
material. Holy crap it was expensive. That machine died after
considerable use and was replaced by a new model that I got on sale for
a good price and it included a lot of extra bags and rolls. IIRC there
were 6 boxes of material.

There are some good deals out there when you buy in bulk. I love
tenderloin steaks and they usually cost $10-12 apiece. Every once in a
while there are deals on beef tenderloins. A couple years ago I picked
one up fora tad under $50 and got 16 steaks out of it. Last year I got
one for $60 and got 14 steaks and a roast that I got two nights out of.
The FoodSaver was well used there. I often see economy packs of
chicken that offer great savings. he 40-50 cents that it costs for FS
material is still a winner for me.





> The last time I used the george foreman grill, God was still wearing
> short pants I guess I'm just lazy as hell.

No George Foreman, but I have a Cuisinart version and should probably
use it more.


> Brown sugar is also stored the same way, but it does not keep as well as
> regular white cane sugar.
Not needed for brown sugar. The next time you pull the heel off a loaf
of bread throw it in your brown sugar canister. It will keep it soft for
years.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-12-23 5:17 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I only buy small quantities of sugar and
>>>> that's for the hummingbird feeder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Last week my Kroger had 4 pound bags of sugar on sale for 99¢ and I
>>> really
>>> didn't need it but it was a good bargain. I think it was part of a
>>> buy 4
>>> or 5 items in a list and each item is only 99¢. Anyway, I sealed that
>>> unopened bag in very large Food Saver bag so whenever I'm ready for it,
>>> it won't be hard as a rock.
>>>
>>> Another use for the Food Saver!
>>>
>> Joan, don't you have to add the cost of the food saver bags to the 99
>> cents to evaluate how good the sugar savings are? Penfart actually has
>> a point here about the cost of the bags (and equipment), of course he
>> consumes food in such massive quantities that he probably doesn't have
>> to bother storing much
>
> When I got a Food Saver I had a rude surprise when I got a new roll of
> material. Holy crap it was expensive. That machine died after
> considerable use and was replaced by a new model that I got on sale for
> a good price and it included a lot of extra bags and rolls. IIRC there
> were 6 boxes of material.
>
> There are some good deals out there when you buy in bulk. I love
> tenderloin steaks and they usually cost $10-12 apiece. Every once in a
> while there are deals on beef tenderloins. A couple years ago I picked
> one up fora tad under $50 and got 16 steaks out of it. Last year I got
> one for $60 and got 14 steaks and a roast that I got two nights out of.
> The FoodSaver was well used there. I often see economy packs of
> chicken that offer great savings. he 40-50 cents that it costs for FS
> material is still a winner for me.
>

Yep, I bet it is very worthwhile for freezing very expensive stuff, like
those good cuts of beef, when you find really good deals like that.
You're making me hungry now, dammit.

I'm old and I don't get out much these days, so I rarely run across good
food sales. It was years ago when I wanted a foodsaver gizmo.

I reckon some of these machines must be like ink jet printers ... They
sell you the printer for peanuts, but the ink cost an arm and both legs.
I knew a lady several years back that resorted to buying really cheap
printers, just threw them away when the ink ran out, and got a new printer.

On 2017-12-23 6:24 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> There are some good deals out there when you buy in bulk. I love
>> tenderloin steaks and they usually cost $10-12 apiece. Every once in a
>> while there are deals on beef tenderloins.Â* A couple years ago I picked
>> one up fora tad underÂ* $50 and got 16 steaks out of it. Last year I got
>> one for $60 and got 14 steaks and a roast that I got two nights out of.
>> Â* The FoodSaver was well used there.Â* I often see economy packs of
>> chicken that offer great savings.Â* he 40-50 cents that it costs for FS
>> material is still a winner for me.
>>
>
> Yep, I bet it is very worthwhile for freezing very expensive stuff, like
> those good cuts of beef, when you find really good deals like that.
> You're making me hungry now, dammit.
>
> I'm old and I don't get out much these days, so I rarely run across good
> food sales. It was years ago when I wanted a foodsaver gizmo.
>
> I reckon some of these machines must be like ink jet printers ... They
> sell you the printer for peanuts, but the ink cost an arm and both legs.
> I knew a lady several years back that resorted to buying really cheap
> printers, just threw them away when the ink ran out, and got a new printer.
>
>


I had the same thought. I have to say that my first FS was a gift and
the material was very expensive. The replacement machine game with a lot
of extra bags and rolls of material.

Years ago my wife bought be a laser printer for Christmas. Within a
month I went shopping for a replacement toner cartridge and was
astounded at the cost... $85 at the time... compared to the $30 per
month I was spending on ink cartridges. However, it was about 3 years
before I had to use it. Years later I had a problem with the printer.
I took it too a computer store for repairs. It was going to be about
$150 for parts... plus labour. The guy pointed out that my toner
cartridge was almost empty. They had new laser printers on sale for $214.

On 2017-12-23 4:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-12-23 6:24 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> There are some good deals out there when you buy in bulk. I love
>>> tenderloin steaks and they usually cost $10-12 apiece. Every once in a
>>> while there are deals on beef tenderloins.Â* A couple years ago I picked
>>> one up fora tad underÂ* $50 and got 16 steaks out of it. Last year I got
>>> one for $60 and got 14 steaks and a roast that I got two nights out of.
>>> Â* The FoodSaver was well used there.Â* I often see economy packs of
>>> chicken that offer great savings.Â* he 40-50 cents that it costs for FS
>>> material is still a winner for me.
>>>
>>
>> Yep, I bet it is very worthwhile for freezing very expensive stuff,
>> like those good cuts of beef, when you find really good deals like
>> that. You're making me hungry now, dammit.
>>
>> I'm old and I don't get out much these days, so I rarely run across
>> good food sales. It was years ago when I wanted a foodsaver gizmo.
>>
>> I reckon some of these machines must be like ink jet printers ... They
>> sell you the printer for peanuts, but the ink cost an arm and both
>> legs. I knew a lady several years back that resorted to buying really
>> cheap printers, just threw them away when the ink ran out, and got a
>> new printer.
>>
>>
>
>
> I had the same thought. I have to say that my first FS was a gift and
> the material was very expensive. The replacement machine game with a lot
> of extra bags and rolls of material.
>
> Years ago my wife bought be a laser printer for Christmas. Within a
> month I went shopping for aÂ* replacement toner cartridge and was
> astounded at the cost... $85 at the time... compared to the $30 per
> month I was spending on ink cartridges.Â* However, it was about 3 years
> before I had to use it.Â* Years later I had a problem with the printer. I
> took it too a computer store for repairs.Â* It was going to beÂ* about
> $150 for parts... plus labour. The guy pointed out that my toner
> cartridge was almost empty. They had new laser printers on sale for $214.

The cartridge that comes with the printer is NOT full size so it soon
runs out.
I have a HP laser printer that cost me just over $100 a few years ago.
The drum and toner cartridge are a combined unit and now cost about
$90!! My wide carriage inkjet printer is more expensive to run but with
retirement looming, it won't get much use in future.

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:43:52 -0700, graham > wrote:

>
>On 2017-12-23 4:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-12-23 6:24 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> There are some good deals out there when you buy in bulk. I love
>>>> tenderloin steaks and they usually cost $10-12 apiece. Every once in a
>>>> while there are deals on beef tenderloins.* A couple years ago I picked
>>>> one up fora tad under* $50 and got 16 steaks out of it. Last year I got
>>>> one for $60 and got 14 steaks and a roast that I got two nights out of.
>>>> * The FoodSaver was well used there.* I often see economy packs of
>>>> chicken that offer great savings.* he 40-50 cents that it costs for FS
>>>> material is still a winner for me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep, I bet it is very worthwhile for freezing very expensive stuff,
>>> like those good cuts of beef, when you find really good deals like
>>> that. You're making me hungry now, dammit.
>>>
>>> I'm old and I don't get out much these days, so I rarely run across
>>> good food sales. It was years ago when I wanted a foodsaver gizmo.
>>>
>>> I reckon some of these machines must be like ink jet printers ... They
>>> sell you the printer for peanuts, but the ink cost an arm and both
>>> legs. I knew a lady several years back that resorted to buying really
>>> cheap printers, just threw them away when the ink ran out, and got a
>>> new printer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I had the same thought. I have to say that my first FS was a gift and
>> the material was very expensive. The replacement machine game with a lot
>> of extra bags and rolls of material.
>>
>> Years ago my wife bought be a laser printer for Christmas. Within a
>> month I went shopping for a* replacement toner cartridge and was
>> astounded at the cost... $85 at the time... compared to the $30 per
>> month I was spending on ink cartridges.* However, it was about 3 years
>> before I had to use it.* Years later I had a problem with the printer. I
>> took it too a computer store for repairs.* It was going to be* about
>> $150 for parts... plus labour. The guy pointed out that my toner
>> cartridge was almost empty. They had new laser printers on sale for $214.
>
>The cartridge that comes with the printer is NOT full size so it soon
>runs out.
>I have a HP laser printer that cost me just over $100 a few years ago.
>The drum and toner cartridge are a combined unit and now cost about
>$90!! My wide carriage inkjet printer is more expensive to run but with
>retirement looming, it won't get much use in future.

I seem to remember seeing somewhere that if you calculated the cost of
printer ink in barrel quantities, all same oil, the printer ink costs
more than double! Last time I bought a printer I thought I was being
canny when I asked the guy which printer has the least costly
cartridges. I bought that one - was an HP - but as I found out
subsequently, the cartridges were half the size of the ones I had to
buy previously. Ya just cain't win the battle, much less the war!!

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 4:17:08 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > Last week my Kroger had 4 pound bags of sugar on sale for 99¢ and I really
> > didn't need it but it was a good bargain. I think it was part of a buy 4
> > or 5 items in a list and each item is only 99¢. Anyway, I sealed that
> > unopened bag in very large Food Saver bag so whenever I'm ready for it,
> > it won't be hard as a rock.
> >
> > Another use for the Food Saver!
> >
> Joan, don't you have to add the cost of the food saver bags
> to the 99 cents to evaluate how good the sugar savings are?
> Penfart actually has a point here about the cost of the bags
> (and equipment), of course he consumes food in such massive
> quantities that he probably doesn't have to bother storing
> much
>
>
I get a box 2-20 foot rolls at Bed, Bath, & Beyond for $19.99
and use one of their $5 off coupons. You make your own bags
with the Food Saver and you make them EXTRA long than what you
are sealing. You can reuse these bags until you've got nothing
left to use. So, no, I didn't figure in the cost of the bag as
it's one that has been used numerous times and will be used
again and again.

As others have stated here, you can also buy these rolls on eBay,
much longer than what I buy at BB&B for a substantial savings.
>
> I sort of wanted a food saver, but the cost of the bags is
> pretty high, at least when I last looked (admittedly, some
> years ago). The other negative is finding a place to keep
> the tool, then having to drag it out all the time. A lot of
> my nifty appliances go unused because of this. The last time
> I used the george foreman grill, God was still wearing short
> pants I guess I'm just lazy as hell.
>
See my comments about buying them at BB&B (coupon) and also on
eBay.

I wish I had the counter space to leave mine out all the time,
but not in this 95 year old house. Mine resides in one of those
very large Rubbermaid/Sterlite drawers along with bunches of
washed bags of all sizes. The vacuum hose for jars is also kept
there. I do have some of the Food Saver canisters and a few weeks
ago I vacuum sealed shelled walnuts in two of those containers.

> On the sugar ... I use very little sugar. A 4 lb bag lasts
> at least a year, or two. For many years, I have a glass
> canister (with rubber seal) which I fill about once per
> year, and keep the rest of the bag in a cheap 1 gallon twist
> tie bag, and it never develops more that a few lumps (easily
> crushed). I'm not in the desert either, in fact very humid
> here, but not as bad as further south.
>
I don't consume much white sugar. This year I didn't make any
Christmas cookies but if I had I'd be getting into this new bag
of sugar within a few weeks.
>
> Brown sugar is also stored the same way, but it does not
> keep as well as regular white cane sugar.
>
One of the Food Saver canisters would work well here but admit
that I keep my brown sugar in a flat Tupperware container. It
never gets hard stored there. No need for a slice of bread or
one of those clay disks meant for keeping it soft, either.
>
> I hope you guys get good sealers. When I was looking years
> ago, I read that some were much more effective than others.
>
I've had mine about 7 years and so far so good! I did learn to
not lock the lid when not in use.

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 5:36:30 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Years ago my wife bought be a laser printer for Christmas. Within a
> month I went shopping for a replacement toner cartridge and was
> astounded at the cost... $85 at the time... compared to the $30 per
> month I was spending on ink cartridges. However, it was about 3 years
> before I had to use it. Years later I had a problem with the printer.
> I took it too a computer store for repairs. It was going to be about
> $150 for parts... plus labour. The guy pointed out that my toner
> cartridge was almost empty. They had new laser printers on sale for $214.
>
>
Dave, I buy my ink cartridges on eBay. I buy 'out-of-date' refills
and have had no trouble with them at all.

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:55:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> When I got a Food Saver I had a rude surprise when I got a new roll of
> material. Holy crap it was expensive. That machine died after
> considerable use and was replaced by a new model that I got on sale for
> a good price and it included a lot of extra bags and rolls. IIRC there
> were 6 boxes of material.
>

That's a most wonderful marketing tradition. King Camp Gillette must have been besides himself when he realized the the money was in selling his blades rather than razor blade handles. You can try using a straw to suck out of Ziploc bags. What's needed is a device that does just that. OTOH, I suppose that doesn't make much sense from a marketing POV.

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:36:30 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Years ago my wife bought be a laser printer for Christmas. Within a
> month I went shopping for a replacement toner cartridge and was
> astounded at the cost... $85 at the time... compared to the $30 per
> month I was spending on ink cartridges. However, it was about 3 years
> before I had to use it. Years later I had a problem with the printer.
> I took it too a computer store for repairs. It was going to be about
> $150 for parts... plus labour. The guy pointed out that my toner
> cartridge was almost empty. They had new laser printers on sale for $214.

Thanks to the wonderful world of the internet, I've learned how to reset the counter gear on my Brother toner cartridge. I've also ordered a bottle of toner. That was less than 8 bucks. It's all so very perfect...

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:58:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:36:30 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Years ago my wife bought be a laser printer for Christmas. Within a
>> month I went shopping for a replacement toner cartridge and was
>> astounded at the cost... $85 at the time... compared to the $30 per
>> month I was spending on ink cartridges. However, it was about 3 years
>> before I had to use it. Years later I had a problem with the printer.
>> I took it too a computer store for repairs. It was going to be about
>> $150 for parts... plus labour. The guy pointed out that my toner
>> cartridge was almost empty. They had new laser printers on sale for $214.
>
>Thanks to the wonderful world of the internet, I've learned how to reset the counter gear on my Brother toner cartridge. I've also ordered a bottle of toner. That was less than 8 bucks. It's all so very perfect...

What, you don't use Google Cloud Print? Heretic!