On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 07:20:06 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>In article >, The
>Greatest! says...
>>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> > In article >, Brooklyn1
>> > says...
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 06:50:14 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Nancy2 wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Bruce, +1.
>> > > >> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
>> > > >> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
>> > > >> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
>> > > >> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
>> > >
>> > > Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
>> > > ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
>> > > Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
>> > > asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
>> > > the eyes than all other first ladys.
>> >
>> > But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
>> > that make her?
>>
>>
>> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things, a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to *stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or washerwoman until her end days...???
>
>Of course I wouldn't want my daughter to marry a schmuck like that.

Who would want their daughter to marry an impoverished putz like
you... and you're obviously an ugli putz because no one here has ever
seen you... I can't imagine some good looking faggot would want you...
you'd be lucky to be with some homely transvestite freak.

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 07:20:06 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >, The
> >Greatest! says...
> >>
> >> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a
Donald rather than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your
daughter to have nice things, a life sans monetary stress...???
Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to *stay* beautiful - as
Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or washerwoman
until her end days...???
> >
> >Of course I wouldn't want my daughter to marry a schmuck like that.
>
> Who would want their daughter to marry an impoverished putz like
> you... and you're obviously an ugli putz because no one here has ever
> seen you... I can't imagine some good looking faggot would want you...
> you'd be lucky to be with some homely transvestite freak.

LOL, have another drink, Shelly.

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:10:35 PM UTC-5, The Greatest! wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>
> > In article >, Brooklyn1
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 06:50:14 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Nancy2 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Bruce, +1.
> > > >> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
> > > >> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
> > > >> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
> > > >> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
> > >
> > > Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
> > > ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
> > > Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
> > > asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
> > > the eyes than all other first ladys.
> >
> > But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
> > that make her?
>
>
> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things, a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to *stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or washerwoman until her end days...???

Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.

There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
rather than depend on some man.

Cindy Hamilton

I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.

N.

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> including me,

That's probably the case for every First Lady.

Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:

The White House Historical Association
The permanent White House staff:
<http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
The Office of the Chief of Protocol

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:35:45 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
>As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
>apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.
>
>N.

OMG - after reading that I googled it
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...u-statues.html

Not a place where you would come in, kick off your shoes and relax!
How ostentatious and god awful. Typical though.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>> including me,
>
>That's probably the case for every First Lady.
>
>Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>
>The White House Historical Association
>The permanent White House staff:
><http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Do we know if Melania can read ?

On 2016-11-11 8:35 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> why I said I hope she is a fast learner.

What's there to know that most Americans have not learned from movies
and television? The land was founded by people who looking for
religious freedom, though the first permanent colony was established by
an extremist sect as religious colony. They invaded Canada in 1812 to
annex it to the US and won the war even though they failed in their
aims. The won WWI almost single-handed, even though they spent only
about 6 months fighting in a war that had been going on for four years
and then saved Europe from having to speak German after sitting that
war out for more than two years.

Outsiders sometimes know more about the real history than the people who
live there.


Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
> As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
> apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.
>
> N.
>

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:01:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> >> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> >> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> >> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> >> including me,
> >
> >That's probably the case for every First Lady.
> >
> >Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
> >
> >The White House Historical Association
> >The permanent White House staff:
> ><http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
> >The Office of the Chief of Protocol
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> Do we know if Melania can read ?

She went to university for a year. Since she allegedly speaks
six languages, she's probably literate in English.

It's not as if she's some moronic American who can barely speak
and read English.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:10:33 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-11 8:35 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> > in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> > why I said I hope she is a fast learner.
>
> What's there to know that most Americans have not learned from movies
> and television? The land was founded by people who looking for
> religious freedom, though the first permanent colony was established by
> an extremist sect as religious colony.

They were looking for the freedom to be assholes. Very American.
(Although not exclusively American, as is demonstrated by a quick
survey of Usenet.)

> They invaded Canada in 1812 to
> annex it to the US and won the war even though they failed in their
> aims.

Were there any movies about the War of 1812? (quick google)
A few. I've seen Buccaneer (1958), but that takes place in
Louisiana.

> The won WWI almost single-handed, even though they spent only
> about 6 months fighting in a war that had been going on for four years
> and then saved Europe from having to speak German after sitting that
> war out for more than two years.

You're welcome. In honor of Veteran's Day, I'm watching Band of
Brothers, in order to increase my knowledge of world history.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2016-11-11 9:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:01:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>>>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>>>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>>>> including me,
>>>
>>> That's probably the case for every First Lady.
>>>
>>> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>>>
>>> The White House Historical Association
>>> The permanent White House staff:
>>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>>> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>
> She went to university for a year.

That would make her a drop out.

>Since she allegedly speaks
> six languages, she's probably literate in English.

That is typical of Europeans.


> It's not as if she's some moronic American who can barely speak
> and read English.

Ouch.

On 2016-11-11 9:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:10:33 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-11-11 8:35 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner.
>>
>> What's there to know that most Americans have not learned from movies
>> and television? The land was founded by people who looking for
>> religious freedom, though the first permanent colony was established by
>> an extremist sect as religious colony.
>
> They were looking for the freedom to be assholes. Very American.
> (Although not exclusively American, as is demonstrated by a quick
> survey of Usenet.)
>
>> They invaded Canada in 1812 to
>> annex it to the US and won the war even though they failed in their
>> aims.
>
> Were there any movies about the War of 1812? (quick google)
> A few. I've seen Buccaneer (1958), but that takes place in
> Louisiana.
>
>> The won WWI almost single-handed, even though they spent only
>> about 6 months fighting in a war that had been going on for four years
>> and then saved Europe from having to speak German after sitting that
>> war out for more than two years.
>
> You're welcome. In honor of Veteran's Day, I'm watching Band of
> Brothers, in order to increase my knowledge of world history.
>

It is a good story. I am curious about the ending and who got to
Hitler's Eagle's Nest first. BoB says it was the 101st, but other
sources say the French got their first.

On 11/11/2016 9:01 AM, wrote:

>> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>>
>> The White House Historical Association
>> The permanent White House staff:
>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>

Why are you showing your ignorance with such a comment? She speaks
multiple languages and probably will be better than previous first
ladies when socializing with foreign dignitaries.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:10:35 PM UTC-5, The Greatest! wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > In article >, Brooklyn1
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 06:50:14 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Bruce, +1.
> > > > >> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
> > > > >> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
> > > > >> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
> > > > >> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!
> > > >
> > > > Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
> > > > ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
> > > > Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
> > > > asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
> > > > the eyes than all other first ladys.
> > >
> > > But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
> > > that make her?
> >
> >
> > What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things, a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to *stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or washerwoman until her end days...???
>
> Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.
>
> There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
> a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
> First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
> professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
> rather than depend on some man.


Yup, Cindy, women can find a great career in STEM. I'm in workforce development and a number of women have found GREAT careers in skilled manufacturing trades. A local agency has a welding program for women, those grads are snapped right up (always multiple offers)...good money and bennies right out the gate.

http://www.jane-addams.org/programs/...-job-training/

"Women in Manufacturing Program (WMP) €” A 32 week, 240 hour welding program that is designed for working female heads of households. The curriculum and certifications are the same as the Welding Fast Track but the program and wrap around support services are customized to meet the needs of this demographic. Classes are held part-time on a case-by-case schedule, as determined by work schedule..."


Interestingly, one of my social worker pals, works for a homeless services agency, transitioned from a civil engineering career, she was specifically a bridge engineer! I asked, "Why on earth did you leave engineering!?", she replied, 'I like helping people..." [!!!]

Many don't realize this, but there is a CRYING need for skilled manufacturing and trades jobs, there is plenty of training out there for those so inclined. Thousands of those jobs here in Chicagoland are going begging, manufacturing and engineering firms would like to expand, they simply can't find the skilled workers they need...and now there are training programs specifically for women, they'd be smart to take advantage!

--
Best
Greg

On 11/11/2016 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>>
>>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>>
>> She went to university for a year.
>
> That would make her a drop out.

But still better educated that 35% of Americans.



>
>
>> It's not as if she's some moronic American who can barely speak
>> and read English.
>
> Ouch.

According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of
Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in
the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of
adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high
school graduates can't read.Sep 6, 2013

In Canada€¦ 42% of Canadian adults between the ages of 16 and 65 have low
literacy skills. 55% of working age adults in Canada are estimated to
have less than adequate health literacy skills. Shockingly, 88% of
adults over the age of 65 appear to be in this situation.

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
says...
>
> On 11/10/2016 9:12 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >, Ed Pawlowski
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 11/10/2016 8:23 PM, Bruce wrote:

> >>> I can imagine that, for blacks, it's a lot harder to be proud of
> >>> America. They're still second class citizens.
> >>>
> >> Tough as they have had it, they still have more opportunity in the
> >> US
> >> than their country of ancestry.
> >
> > It must still be hard to be proud of a country that treats you as 2nd
> > class. Not that the US is the only one where this is happening, of
> > course.
> >
> I don't think the "country" treats them second class but some of its
> citizens certainly do. It has gotten better but will still take
> generations to go away. How about those Aborigines?

I wonder what the average "black" income is vs the average "white"
income. Or education level. Or life expectancy. Or neighbourhood. Or...

Aborigines are doing no better.

Tert, Ivanka's lines are also carried at Macy's. They have announced they will continue to
carry hers, but are not going to carry Donald's, which they had already dropped. Ivanka
designs for different markets, I am sure. She is no dummy.

N.

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
says...
>
> On 11/11/2016 9:01 AM, wrote:
>
> >> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
> >>
> >> The White House Historical Association
> >> The permanent White House staff:
> >> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
> >> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Do we know if Melania can read ?
> >
>
> Why are you showing your ignorance with such a comment? She speaks
> multiple languages and probably will be better than previous first
> ladies when socializing with foreign dignitaries.

Trump has a face and a character only a mother can love. Why is Melania
with him then? And what does that make her?

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 11/11/2016 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
> >>
> >> She went to university for a year.
> >
> > That would make her a drop out.
>
> But still better educated that 35% of Americans.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >> It's not as if she's some moronic American who can barely speak
> >> and read English.
> >
> > Ouch.
>
> According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of
> Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in
> the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of
> adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high
> school graduates can't read.Sep 6, 2013
>
> In Canada€¦ 42% of Canadian adults between the ages of 16 and 65 have low
> literacy skills. 55% of working age adults in Canada are estimated to
> have less than adequate health literacy skills. Shockingly, 88% of
> adults over the age of 65 appear to be in this situation.


Thanks for this reminder, I am heavily involved in literacy advocacy (I'm a certified GED and ESL tutor), and these figures are simply staggering, in Chicago alone:

http://www.litworks.org/mission_and_history.html
€œNeed
Over 600,000 adults in the Chicago region cannot read or write well enough to meet the demands of todays economy or attain their own goals.
Half a million people in Chicago over the age of four cannot speak English well.
Nearly 25% of immigrants and refugees in Chicago have an 8th-grade education or below; among certain populations, as many as 45% have left school before the 9th grade€¦€�


EVERYTHING springs from literacy, it's as essential as oxygen...

And to everyone reading, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider devoting a bit of time to literacy volunteering, it is pleasant work, and the rewards - for both learner and teacher - are MANY...


--
Best
Greg

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 06:50:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:01:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>> >> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>> >> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>> >> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>> >> including me,
>> >
>> >That's probably the case for every First Lady.
>> >
>> >Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>> >
>> >The White House Historical Association
>> >The permanent White House staff:
>> ><http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>> >The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>
>She went to university for a year. Since she allegedly speaks
>six languages, she's probably literate in English.
>
>It's not as if she's some moronic American who can barely speak
>and read English.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Lol touché !

On 2016-11-11, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of
> Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in
> the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of
> adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high
> school graduates can't read.Sep 6, 2013

Are you trying to explain Trump's victory?

nb

On 11/11/2016 11:40 AM, Bruce wrote:


>
> Trump has a face and a character only a mother can love. Why is Melania
> with him then? And what does that make her?
>

Don't know or care. None of my business. Lots of "odd couples" in
life. Could be money, fame, even love.

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:59:58 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-11 9:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 9:01:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> >>>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> >>>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> >>>> including me,
> >>>
> >>> That's probably the case for every First Lady.
> >>>
> >>> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
> >>>
> >>> The White House Historical Association
> >>> The permanent White House staff:
> >>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
> >>> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> Do we know if Melania can read ?
> >
> > She went to university for a year.
>
> That would make her a drop out.

So is Bill Gates. So was I, for a while, until I went back
and finished my degree.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/11/2016 7:01 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>>> including me,
>>
>> That's probably the case for every First Lady.
>>
>> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>>
>> The White House Historical Association
>> The permanent White House staff:
>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>
To bring the thread back to food, there'll be a tart in the WH.

On 11/11/2016 11:49 AM, The Greatest! wrote:

> Thanks for this reminder, I am heavily involved in literacy advocacy (I'm a certified GED and ESL tutor), and these figures are simply staggering, in Chicago alone:
>
> http://www.litworks.org/mission_and_history.html
> €œNeed
> Over 600,000 adults in the Chicago region cannot read or write well enough to meet the demands of todays economy or attain their own goals.
> Half a million people in Chicago over the age of four cannot speak English well.
> Nearly 25% of immigrants and refugees in Chicago have an 8th-grade education or below; among certain populations, as many as 45% have left school before the 9th grade€¦€�
>
>
> EVERYTHING springs from literacy, it's as essential as oxygen...


If literacy increased the Chicago shootings would go down too. That is
a staggering number of people that have a difficult time applying for a
job and if working, mostly low paid jobs.

Many of these people are getting government handouts but with some
education can be solid taxpayers. Tough to break the cycle.

On 11/11/2016 11:37 AM, Bruce wrote:

>
> I wonder what the average "black" income is vs the average "white"
> income. Or education level. Or life expectancy. Or neighbourhood. Or...
>
> Aborigines are doing no better.
>

According to CNN
Take income. In 2014, the median household income for whites was $71,300
compared to $43,300 for blacks. But for college-educated whites, the
median household income was $106,600, significantly higher than the
$82,300 for households headed by college-educated blacks, the report found.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>The Greatest wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > >The Greatest wrote:
>> > > >Nancy2 wrote:
>> > > >> Bruce, +1.
>> > > >> Since when does Melania have any class? I hate to think what she could do
>> > > >> to the White House. Thankfully, she does have a stepdaughter, Ivanka, who
>> > > >> does have some class and can give her advice. We don't need a Slovenian
>> > > >> model in charge of one of America's greatest treasures.
>> > > >
>> > > >You are an anti - democratic classist...!!!

Bruthie is the classic loser who resents those with more than himself,
which means he resents most everyone.

>> > > Melania will add more class to the White House than all other first
>> > > ladys combined, she speaks six languages: her native Slovenian, and
>> > > Serbian, English, French, Italian and German... she'll be a great
>> > > asset at affairs with international dignataries. She's also easier on
>> > > the eyes than all other first ladys.
>> >
>> > But she clearly married President P. Grabber for his money. What does
>> > that make her?
>>
>> What...if she was *your* daughter wouldn't you want her to marry a Donald rather
>than some poor schmuckola...??? Wouldn't you want your daughter to have nice things,
>a life sans monetary stress...??? Wouldn't you want her to have the resources to
> stay* beautiful - as Melania is - and not have to slave as a pizza waitress or
>washerwoman until her end days...???
>
>Life is not about things. Beauty always fades.

Inner beauty doesn't fade and that's what's important. However
Melania will still be gorgeous when she's eighty.

>There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
>a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
>First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
>professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
>rather than depend on some man.

How bitter and unfullfilled you sound. You're as deaf, dumb, and
BLIND as all those pollsters who got it wrong, simply because none are
so blind as those who will not see... buncha biased *******s.
Along with being extremely attractive Melania is a very intelligent
woman who was doing fine on her own before she met The Donald and
would have done fine without becoming a Trump. But you sure sound
like the queen of sour grapes, obviously envious because you married a
nobody, if you are even married... with your extremely negative
attitude and closed mindedness no real man would associate with you.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
> a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
> First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
> professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
> rather than depend on some man.

I prodded my daughter into getting a good education. This way she would
never be dependant on any man. After that, I approve any man that she
chooses. If he's a good person, I don't care what he does for a living
or how much money he makes. If he's right for her, that's all I ever
wanted.

She does have the "backup" though if the marriage ever fails. I hope
not.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
> As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
> apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.
>
> N.

He won, Nancy2. Accept them and support them for now. At least honor the
office that he holds. He WILL be your next president. I'm sure his wife
will do fine. First Ladys are basically worthless anyway...really.

On 2016-11-11, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Many of these people are getting government handouts but with some
> education can be solid taxpayers. Tough to break the cycle.

Tough to tell the truth!

I've got plenty of edjumication. Worked all my life! Now retired.

I paid 44% of my income fer far too many yrs to have some clueless
politcal dork (or whomever!) tell me I'm not entitled. I'm getting
my own money back.

Finally!....

nb

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:01:51 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>>> including me,
>>
>>That's probably the case for every First Lady.
>>
>>Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>>
>>The White House Historical Association
>>The permanent White House staff:
>><http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>>The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>Do we know if Melania can read ?

I bet my bippee Melania reads at a level light years ahead of you,
dumb ****.

wrote:
>
> Do we know if Melania can read ?

Really? lol Don't be a sore loser like all the high school and
college kids causing trouble right now. The ones crossing the line and
breaking the law, catch all you can and put them in jail. Take away all
of the college kids federal loans and grants. Let them work for tuition
money next year.

IMO, the DNC should be highly embarrassed by all this nonsense. Nothing
but sore losers. Just shows how liberals are always so grim and won't
even accept the truth except for their version of it.

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth out on the streets these days, that's
for sure. LOL!

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:00:59 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:35:45 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>>I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>>in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>>why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>>including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
>>As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
>>apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.
>>
>>N.
>
>OMG - after reading that I googled it
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...u-statues.html
>
>Not a place where you would come in, kick off your shoes and relax!
>How ostentatious and god awful. Typical though.

Not everyone is desireous of living in your low rent district hovel.
I'm possitive Melania kicks off her shoes as does everyone who enters
her home, as do all Slovenians when entering a home because it's
customary and would be rude not to, and it's customary to supply
guests with slippers.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:35:31 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 11/11/2016 7:01 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>>>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>>>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>>>> including me,
>>>
>>> That's probably the case for every First Lady.
>>>
>>> Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
>>>
>>> The White House Historical Association
>>> The permanent White House staff:
>>> <http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
>>> The Office of the Chief of Protocol
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Do we know if Melania can read ?
>>
>To bring the thread back to food, there'll be a tart in the WH.

You'm gonna get it !

On 11/11/2016 1:05 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Not everyone is desireous of living in your low rent district hovel.
> I'm possitive Melania kicks off her shoes as does everyone who enters
> her home, as do all Slovenians when entering a home because it's
> customary and would be rude not to, and it's customary to supply
> guests with slippers.

You totally missed the point.

Jill

On 11/11/2016 12:57 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-11-11, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Many of these people are getting government handouts but with some
>> education can be solid taxpayers. Tough to break the cycle.
>
> Tough to tell the truth!
>
> I've got plenty of edjumication. Worked all my life! Now retired.
>
> I paid 44% of my income fer far too many yrs to have some clueless
> politcal dork (or whomever!) tell me I'm not entitled. I'm getting
> my own money back.
>
> Finally!....
>
> nb
>

SS? Medicare? Sure I'm getting mine too. I'm talking about the
non-working people that will be getting some of that with little or no
input.

On 11/11/2016 12:57 PM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
>> including me, and would have to do some studying in order to properly appreciate it.
>> As to the matter of taste: have you seen photos of the interior of Donald's NY
>> apartment? As overdone and garish as Versailles... No, maybe worse.
>>
>> N.
>
> He won, Nancy2. Accept them and support them for now. At least honor the
> office that he holds. He WILL be your next president. I'm sure his wife
> will do fine. First Ladys are basically worthless anyway...really.
>
I've been kind of sort of reading these threads and wondering why Nancy2
is so worried about her knowledge of White House history. Does it take
knowledge of a house to move into it? Face it, it's going to be her new
home for the next four years. I'm sure they won't give up the penthouse
and other places, dinna fret.

This thread seems to have something to do with a possibly gaudy
re-decorating scheme. Perhaps she won't like the china. She might make
the "west wing" look like a brothel. Who cares? Only the first family
goes into those rooms.

This is a very odd thread.

Historically, there's absolutely no reason why the incoming First Lady
*should* know anything about the history of the White House other than
this is where we live now.

Preferable? Of course. I know the White House was burned during the
War of 1812 and rebuilt. Is it important for the First Lady to know
that? I'm not so sure.

Jill
Jill

In article >, Ed Pawlowski
says...
>
> On 11/11/2016 11:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Trump has a face and a character only a mother can love. Why is Melania
> > with him then? And what does that make her?
> >
>
> Don't know or care. None of my business. Lots of "odd couples" in
> life. Could be money, fame, even love.

Your guesses went from excellent to poor

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> >There's middle ground, you know. She could marry an engineer,
> >a machinist, or a man in any of a host of other occupations.
> >First and foremost, I'd hope my daughter would become a
> >professional (engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc.) in her own right,
> >rather than depend on some man.
>
> How bitter and unfullfilled you sound. You're as deaf, dumb, and
> BLIND as all those pollsters who got it wrong, simply because none are
> so blind as those who will not see... buncha biased *******s.
> Along with being extremely attractive Melania is a very intelligent
> woman who was doing fine on her own before she met The Donald and
> would have done fine without becoming a Trump. But you sure sound
> like the queen of sour grapes, obviously envious because you married a
> nobody, if you are even married... with your extremely negative
> attitude and closed mindedness no real man would associate with you.

Cindy says something completely reasonable and you react like a mental
patient.

In article >, Brooklyn1
says...
>
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:01:51 -0400, wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>> I was speaking specifically of the. White. House. I said it earlier. Does she know any
> >>> in-depth history of the national historic landmark in which she will be living? That is
> >>> why I said I hope she is a fast learner. Most of us don't have that kind of knowledge,
> >>> including me,
> >>
> >>That's probably the case for every First Lady.
> >>
> >>Here are some resources available to the President-elect and his wife:
> >>
> >>The White House Historical Association
> >>The permanent White House staff:
> >><http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/white-house-staff-on-edge-2016-presidential-race>
> >>The Office of the Chief of Protocol
> >>
> >>Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >Do we know if Melania can read ?
>
> I bet my bippee Melania reads at a level light years ahead of you,
> dumb ****.

It's funny to see a xenophobic bigot like you defend her so
passionately, just because she looks good