I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
€œYou are not allowed to post€� message. I have to re-subscribe to the
newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
It's not the provider.
Has anyone else had this problem?

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> It's not the provider.
> Has anyone else had this problem?

Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.

And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
hear me.

--
Bruce

On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
provider.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:42 -0700, graham > wrote:

>I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>“You are not allowed to post” message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>It's not the provider.
>
>Has anyone else had this problem?

Never heard of that one, but not a lot surprises me with T-Bird.
Maybe consider using a proper newsreader? The times I've tried any
Mozilla based email client for Usenet, well, it invariably gets messy.

On 11/03/2016 1:18 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:42 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> €œYou are not allowed to post€� message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>>
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Never heard of that one, but not a lot surprises me with T-Bird.
> Maybe consider using a proper newsreader? The times I've tried any
> Mozilla based email client for Usenet, well, it invariably gets messy.
>
As I replied to JK, the problem arose when I changed providers. I never
had any problems with Outlook Express, of blessed memory:-)

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> >> It's not the provider.
> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> >Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> hear me.
>
> --
> Bruce

I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:27:50 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 1:18 PM, Je�us wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:42 -0700, graham > wrote:
> >
> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> >> €œYou are not allowed to post€� message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> >> It's not the provider.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > Never heard of that one, but not a lot surprises me with T-Bird.
> > Maybe consider using a proper newsreader? The times I've tried any
> > Mozilla based email client for Usenet, well, it invariably gets messy.
> >
> As I replied to JK, the problem arose when I changed providers. I never
> had any problems with Outlook Express, of blessed memory:-)

There's so much buried configuration crap in any newsreader or faux newsreader program like Tnunderbird that you probably have to go deep into it's configuration to find what's not set correctly with/to your new provider. All it takes is one little mis-configuration to screw things up for you.

John Kuthe...

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>hear me.

He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> >>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> >>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> >>> It's not the provider.
> >>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>
> >>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away..
> >
> >And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> >hear me.
>
> He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?

Which means I understand how computers work, but that does not mean that I know how to tell YOU how to make YOUR computer work! Important difference!!

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:26:52 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 11/03/2016 1:18 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:42 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> “You are not allowed to post” message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Never heard of that one, but not a lot surprises me with T-Bird.
>> Maybe consider using a proper newsreader? The times I've tried any
>> Mozilla based email client for Usenet, well, it invariably gets messy.
>>
>As I replied to JK, the problem arose when I changed providers. I never
>had any problems with Outlook Express, of blessed memory:-)

Well that suggests a possible configuration problem and not a provider
problem. Who was your old provider and who is the new one?

Wait a minute... Are you trying to use aioe by any chance?

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> >> It's not the provider.
>> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >
>> >Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>> hear me.
>
>I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)

And you cannot resolve this big 'problem', Mr 'computer engineer'?
A search will reveal somewhere to download a free version of Agent...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:53:56 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> >>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> >>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> >>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> >>> It's not the provider.
>> >>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >>
>> >>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>> >
>> >And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>> >hear me.
>>
>> He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?
>
>Which means I understand how computers work, but that does not mean that I know how to tell YOU how to make YOUR computer work! Important difference!!

Oh, I see. LOL.

The definition of the term is apparently as flexible and open ended as
is your definition of a kill file

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:51:58 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>
>>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>>hear me.
>
>He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?

And a registered nurse? We must be dealing with the new Leonardo da
Vinci.

--
Bruce

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> >> It's not the provider.
>> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >
>> >Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>> hear me.
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>
>I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)

It takes 5 minutes to download Free Agent or another free news reader.
Hardly a reason to switch to Google Groups if you hate POS software so
much

--
Bruce

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:10:11 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>
>>I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)
>
>It takes 5 minutes to download Free Agent or another free news reader.
>Hardly a reason to switch to Google Groups if you hate POS software so
>much

And to think of all those CHINESE Google investors he's supporting!

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:08:48 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:51:58 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program,
>>>>and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>
>>>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>>>hear me.
>>
>>He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?
>
>And a registered nurse? We must be dealing with the new Leonardo da
>Vinci.

Yes, he's a true renaissance man

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> > I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> > "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> > newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> > It's not the provider.
> > Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...

John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
====

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:35:23 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> > I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> > "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> > newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> > It's not the provider.
>> > Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>====

He might be full of baloney - but not on the question of Tbird being a
good Usenet client. It's quite crappy for that task, actually.

On 3/11/2016 3:15 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>

>>
> I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
> provider.

You say it is not the provider and you changed. How can you be sure?
Could be a configuration error.

On 3/11/2016 3:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

T=bird portable works just fine for me. I see no reason to change.

On 2016-03-11 2:56 PM, graham wrote:
> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> €œYou are not allowed to post€� message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> It's not the provider.
> Has anyone else had this problem?

I use Thunderbird and have not had that problem. I have a worse one with
Windows Live Mail. If someone sends me an email and uses the same
subject header it shows up in the inbox highlighted as if it is new mail
but it is the old one, and I cannot delete it. It happens only on my
deck top. It works fine on my laptop. When using the desk top and I see
it happening I switch to my browser and go to OutLook.

On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:

>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> ====
>


I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups. Once in a while I
see something really idiotic posted and am surprised that it has not
been cross posted.

John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> > >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep
> > getting a >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to
> > re-subscribe to the >> newsgroup each time before the message
> > posts. Damned annoying!!!!!! >> It's not the provider.
> > >> Has anyone else had this problem?
> > >
> > > Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's
> > > also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does
> > > not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet
> > > newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
> >
> > And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> > hear me.
> >
> > --
> > Bruce
>
> I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did
> a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another
> real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...

Try Xananews. Works well and free.

--

On 3/11/2016 2:56 PM, graham wrote:
> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> €œYou are not allowed to post€� message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> It's not the provider.
> Has anyone else had this problem?

Make sure under server settings you have selected 'Authentication is
required'. Oh, and it helps if you know your password.

Jill

On 3/11/2016 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> ====
>
I'm surprised he doesn't claim it's CHINESE!

Jill

On 11/03/2016 3:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 3:15 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>
>
>>>
>> I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
>> provider.
>
> You say it is not the provider and you changed. How can you be sure?
> Could be a configuration error.

It seems to be a configuration error but I have gone through everything
and can't find one.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>> ====
>
>I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.

So in fact you have had problems.

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:16:00 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:08:48 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:51:58 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>>>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program,
>>>>>and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>>
>>>>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>>>>hear me.
>>>
>>>He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?
>>
>>And a registered nurse? We must be dealing with the new Leonardo da
>>Vinci.
>
>Yes, he's a true renaissance man

Yes, a homo universalis.

--
Bruce

On 11/03/2016 4:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:42 -0700, graham wrote:
>
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> ´You are not allowed to post¡ message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> "You are not allowed to post" is a server error message. Was that the
> COMPLETE error message? Was there a number before it - Perhaps "441"?
>
> -sw
>
No!

On 3/11/2016 6:03 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>>> ====
>>
>> I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>> way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.
>
> So in fact you have had problems.
>
The problem is not with Thunderbird, it's problems with idiotic
cross-posting trolls. There is likely a way to filter that somewhere in
the setting up of message filters. Me, I try to pay attention and
simply delete the other groups when I see something has been
cross-posted. Then I k/f the troll who started it.

As for Graham's problem, he needs to check under settings/server
settings. Make sure "Always Request Authentication" is selected. I was
getting that same error (Not allowed to post). While trouble-shooting I
had deselected that option and it gave me that same error.

Then again, I was also having issues with the news server which is why I
was fiddling around with the Thunderbird settings in the first place.

Jill

On 3/11/2016 4:48 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 3:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 3/11/2016 3:15 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>> I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
>>> provider.
>>
>> You say it is not the provider and you changed. How can you be sure?
>> Could be a configuration error.
>
> It seems to be a configuration error but I have gone through everything
> and can't find one.

Perhaps it could be a setting in your AV client? It might be due to a
setting in the OS 'firewall' but likely not. Worth looking maybe? I
like Tbird for both and email and usenet client; I've been using it for
years with nary any problems.

Sky

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 18:54:38 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/11/2016 6:03 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>>>> ====
>>>
>>> I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>>> way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.
>>
>> So in fact you have had problems.
>>
>The problem is not with Thunderbird, it's problems with idiotic
>cross-posting trolls.

Well, that's some interesting logic. That's like not blaming your
anti-virus proggie for failing to detect a well known virus

>There is likely a way to filter that somewhere in
>the setting up of message filters. Me, I try to pay attention and
>simply delete the other groups when I see something has been
>cross-posted. Then I k/f the troll who started it.

Would be easier to use a real newsreader that will k/f the troll
across all NGs with one or two clicks.

>As for Graham's problem, he needs to check under settings/server
>settings. Make sure "Always Request Authentication" is selected. I was
>getting that same error (Not allowed to post). While trouble-shooting I
>had deselected that option and it gave me that same error.

You're probably right if the server he is having problems with is
eternal-september. But he hasn't stated clearly which server is
causing him problems. aioe has in the past week had major server
problems - but then RFC is on their ban list, so that's academic I
guess.

Roy wrote:
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program.

Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html

By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:24:40 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> >
> > Thunderbird is an email clinet program.
>
> Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
> http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html
>
> By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.

I'm sure you know all about limp-wristed seeing as how you were used to an all male environment for years. Probably got to pick who you wanted for the "night shift". Ahahahahahahahaha.
I didn't choose my name but it was my father's name...what was yours?...some Pollack from the old-country?
=====

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:51:48 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:24:40 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>> >
>> > Thunderbird is an email clinet program.
>>
>> Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
>> http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html
>>
>> By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.
>
>I'm sure you know all about limp-wristed seeing as how you were used to an all male environment for years. Probably got to pick who you wanted for the "night shift". Ahahahahahahahaha.
>I didn't choose my name but it was my father's name...what was yours?...some Pollack from the old-country?

So you've been your daddie's anal boy, ROY!

On 2016-03-11 6:03 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:

>>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>>> ====
>>
>> I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>> way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.
>
> So in fact you have had problems.
>


Not really. I is nothing insurmountable. I just filter the sender or
topic. Being cross posted to a number of groups is usually a pretty
good indication that it is going to be something weird.

On 3/11/2016 7:51 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:24:40 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>>
>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program.
>>
>> Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
>> http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html
>>
>> By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.
>
> I'm sure you know all about limp-wristed seeing as how you were used
to an all male environment for years. Probably got to pick who you
wanted for the "night shift". Ahahahahahahahaha.
> I didn't choose my name but it was my father's name...what was
yours?...some Pollack from the old-country?
> =====
>

Yeah, sheldon seems to be 'very, very ' insecure when it comes to
anyone's right to be "any one" if the definition does not fit his
defined niches??! Too funny and "oh bless his heart"!! Just what the
heck is sheldon afraid of ?? poor guy!. As if anyone would want to bug
the guy, and he sure seems to bug back! <G>

Sky

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Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
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On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-7, Sky wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 7:51 PM, Roy wrote:
> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:24:40 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> Roy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program.
> >>
> >> Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
> >> http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html
> >>
> >> By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.
> >
> > I'm sure you know all about limp-wristed seeing as how you were used
> to an all male environment for years. Probably got to pick who you
> wanted for the "night shift". Ahahahahahahahaha.
> > I didn't choose my name but it was my father's name...what was
> yours?...some Pollack from the old-country?
> > =====
> >
>
> Yeah, sheldon seems to be 'very, very ' insecure when it comes to
> anyone's right to be "any one" if the definition does not fit his
> defined niches??! Too funny and "oh bless his heart"!! Just what the
> heck is sheldon afraid of ?? poor guy!. As if anyone would want to bug
> the guy, and he sure seems to bug back! <G>
>
> Sky
====
"Brooklyn Baby" likes to insult people just to get a reaction. It is like a defensive action so as no one ever gets close to him in any way. He doesn't want many friends and makes sure that the ones he allows are there by his standards (inclusiveness). I really don't give a flying fig what he says anymore...assholes like him really don't matter in the grand scheme of life.
There are lots of good and sensible people on this forum...we should just concentrate on them.
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:59:36 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-7, Sky wrote:
>> On 3/11/2016 7:51 PM, Roy wrote:
>> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:24:40 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
>> >> http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html
>> >>
>> >> By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.
>> >
>> > I'm sure you know all about limp-wristed seeing as how you were used
>> to an all male environment for years. Probably got to pick who you
>> wanted for the "night shift". Ahahahahahahahaha.
>> > I didn't choose my name but it was my father's name...what was
>> yours?...some Pollack from the old-country?
>> > =====
>> >
>>
>> Yeah, sheldon seems to be 'very, very ' insecure when it comes to
>> anyone's right to be "any one" if the definition does not fit his
>> defined niches??! Too funny and "oh bless his heart"!! Just what the
>> heck is sheldon afraid of ?? poor guy!. As if anyone would want to bug
>> the guy, and he sure seems to bug back! <G>
>>
>"Brooklyn Baby" likes to insult people just to get a reaction. It is like a defensive action so as no one ever gets close to him in any way. He doesn't want many friends and makes sure that the ones he allows are there by his standards (inclusiveness). I really don't give a flying fig what he says anymore...assholes like him really don't matter in the grand scheme of life.
>There are lots of good and sensible people on this forum...we should just concentrate on them.
>====

Thank you.

--
Bruce