I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
€œYou are not allowed to post€� message. I have to re-subscribe to the
newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
It's not the provider.
Has anyone else had this problem?

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> It's not the provider.
> Has anyone else had this problem?

Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.

And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
hear me.

--
Bruce

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> >> It's not the provider.
> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> >Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> hear me.
>
> --
> Bruce

I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> >> It's not the provider.
>> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >
>> >Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>> hear me.
>
>I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)

And you cannot resolve this big 'problem', Mr 'computer engineer'?
A search will reveal somewhere to download a free version of Agent...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> >> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> >> It's not the provider.
>> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >
>> >Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>> hear me.
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>
>I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)

It takes 5 minutes to download Free Agent or another free news reader.
Hardly a reason to switch to Google Groups if you hate POS software so
much

--
Bruce

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:10:11 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>
>>I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)
>
>It takes 5 minutes to download Free Agent or another free news reader.
>Hardly a reason to switch to Google Groups if you hate POS software so
>much

And to think of all those CHINESE Google investors he's supporting!

On 12/03/2016 8:10 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:37:36 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>
>>> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>>> hear me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce
>>
>> I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)
>
> It takes 5 minutes to download Free Agent or another free news reader.
> Hardly a reason to switch to Google Groups if you hate POS software so
> much
>
Or better, download the full version of Agent and actually pay for it if
it's so good!

--

Xeno

John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:15:27 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> > >> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep
> > getting a >> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to
> > re-subscribe to the >> newsgroup each time before the message
> > posts. Damned annoying!!!!!! >> It's not the provider.
> > >> Has anyone else had this problem?
> > >
> > > Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's
> > > also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does
> > > not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet
> > > newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
> >
> > And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> > hear me.
> >
> > --
> > Bruce
>
> I lost my last free versoin of Free Agent newsreader last time I did
> a wipe/reload of my WinXP computer, and have not yet gotten another
> real Usenet Newsreader program. Suffer! ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...

Try Xananews. Works well and free.

--

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>hear me.

He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> >>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> >>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> >>> It's not the provider.
> >>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>
> >>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away..
> >
> >And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> >hear me.
>
> He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?

Which means I understand how computers work, but that does not mean that I know how to tell YOU how to make YOUR computer work! Important difference!!

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:53:56 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> >>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> >>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> >>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> >>> It's not the provider.
>> >>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >>
>> >>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>> >
>> >And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>> >hear me.
>>
>> He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?
>
>Which means I understand how computers work, but that does not mean that I know how to tell YOU how to make YOUR computer work! Important difference!!

Oh, I see. LOL.

The definition of the term is apparently as flexible and open ended as
is your definition of a kill file

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:51:58 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>
>>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>>hear me.
>
>He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?

And a registered nurse? We must be dealing with the new Leonardo da
Vinci.

--
Bruce

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:08:48 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:51:58 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>>>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program,
>>>>and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>
>>>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
>>>hear me.
>>
>>He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?
>
>And a registered nurse? We must be dealing with the new Leonardo da
>Vinci.

Yes, he's a true renaissance man

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 3:08:54 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:51:58 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:15:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> >>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> >>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> >>>> It's not the provider.
> >>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>
> >>>Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
> >>
> >>And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> >>hear me.
> >
> >He's a 'computer engineer', don't you know?
>
> And a registered nurse? We must be dealing with the new Leonardo da
> Vinci.
>
> --
> Bruce

I'm an RN now, yes. Third career in life, you?

John Kuthe...

On 3/11/2016 12:15 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:08:26 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> And you use Google Groups. I'm laughing so hard you must be able to
> hear me.
>

John is a total asshole and fulla shit to boot.
LOL

On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
provider.

On 3/11/2016 3:15 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>

>>
> I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
> provider.

You say it is not the provider and you changed. How can you be sure?
Could be a configuration error.

On 11/03/2016 3:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/11/2016 3:15 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>
>
>>>
>> I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
>> provider.
>
> You say it is not the provider and you changed. How can you be sure?
> Could be a configuration error.

It seems to be a configuration error but I have gone through everything
and can't find one.

On 3/11/2016 4:48 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 3:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 3/11/2016 3:15 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2016 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>>>> It's not the provider.
>>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>> I had no problems with Thunderbird until I had to change the service
>>> provider.
>>
>> You say it is not the provider and you changed. How can you be sure?
>> Could be a configuration error.
>
> It seems to be a configuration error but I have gone through everything
> and can't find one.

Perhaps it could be a setting in your AV client? It might be due to a
setting in the OS 'firewall' but likely not. Worth looking maybe? I
like Tbird for both and email and usenet client; I've been using it for
years with nary any problems.

Sky

================================
Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
================================

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> > I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> > "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> > newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> > It's not the provider.
> > Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...

John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
====

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:35:23 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> > I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> > "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> > newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> > It's not the provider.
>> > Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>====

He might be full of baloney - but not on the question of Tbird being a
good Usenet client. It's quite crappy for that task, actually.

On 2016-03-11, Jeßus > wrote:

> He might be full of baloney - but not on the question of Tbird being a
> good Usenet client. It's quite crappy for that task, actually.

Here's some help:

<http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.htmlhttp://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html>

I've never tried Hamster, but it sounds interesting.

<http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html>

I had problems with newsreaders on Windows, also. I tried using 40tude,
on XP, but didn't like it. I think 40tude is no longer supported.

I tried several Linux based newsreaders on XP, like Pan and slrn and
emacs, but I never could get them to work, properly, so I stayed with
Linux and eventually converted completely.

Not gonna preach, jes saying.

My basic recommendation is: Agent

It looks like Agent is no longer completely free --now it's
"trialware"-- but from what I've read over the years, from a
gazillions users, it's well worth the fee ($30).

nb

On 13/03/2016 1:36 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-03-11, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> He might be full of baloney - but not on the question of Tbird being a
>> good Usenet client. It's quite crappy for that task, actually.
>
> Here's some help:
>
> <http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.htmlhttp://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html>
>
> I've never tried Hamster, but it sounds interesting.
>
> <http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html>
>
> I had problems with newsreaders on Windows, also. I tried using 40tude,
> on XP, but didn't like it. I think 40tude is no longer supported.
>
> I tried several Linux based newsreaders on XP, like Pan and slrn and
> emacs, but I never could get them to work, properly, so I stayed with
> Linux and eventually converted completely.
>
> Not gonna preach, jes saying.
>
> My basic recommendation is: Agent
>
> It looks like Agent is no longer completely free --now it's
> "trialware"-- but from what I've read over the years, from a
> gazillions users, it's well worth the fee ($30).
>
> nb
>
It sure is. I've been a registered user since before the 1.0 release and
have no complaints.

--

Xeno

On 12 Mar 2016 14:36:09 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2016-03-11, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> He might be full of baloney - but not on the question of Tbird being a
>> good Usenet client. It's quite crappy for that task, actually.
>
>Here's some help:
>
><http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.htmlhttp://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html>
>
>I've never tried Hamster, but it sounds interesting.
>
><http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html>
>
>I had problems with newsreaders on Windows, also. I tried using 40tude,
>on XP, but didn't like it. I think 40tude is no longer supported.
>
>I tried several Linux based newsreaders on XP, like Pan and slrn and
>emacs, but I never could get them to work, properly, so I stayed with
>Linux and eventually converted completely.
>
>Not gonna preach, jes saying.
>
>My basic recommendation is: Agent

Agreed.

>It looks like Agent is no longer completely free --now it's
>"trialware"-- but from what I've read over the years, from a
>gazillions users, it's well worth the fee ($30).

I think it is. I've used pretty much every newsreader for Windows and
most for Linux and I think Agent is the best all rounder out there.
There are more powerful readers such as X-News but Agent has the right
balance of sophistication and ease of use IMO.

If anyone wants an earlier version, especially the free versions to
try:
http://mirrors.easynews.com/agent/ft...agent/english/

On 3/12/2016 10:02 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Hamster is a news server proxy, not a reader that an end user would
> typically use.
>
> -sw
Your woman abuse is as grotesque, unprovoked, and ugly as anything
anyone in this medium has ever done.

You are a pathological woman-hater and a deeply disturbed and wounded
little man:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw

"OK, so it's your planet so I guess you get to define what all teens on
Planet Bove eat. We'll need to add this to the Planet Bove Wikipedia
entry: "Teenagers on Planet Bove only eat chicken strips, fries, and
baby carrots".

-sw

"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw


"Why do you even bother posting if that's all you have to say? We've
heard the same thing at least 2,000 times by now."

-sw


"Incredible. And you STILL don't shut up."

-sw

I thought you were here just to talk about cooking? You've only said
that at least 25 times, yet 95% of the flack you get is about
off-topic subjects.

-sw

Way to go, Julie! You beat her down into speechlessness.

-sw

I didn't think Julie was even capable of using the phone.

-sw

You seem to have a problem remembering things. Maybe you should have
written down the once you realized you liked it.

-sw

Wow. She catches on quick when her mind isn't clouded by irrational
spite.

-sw

Congratulations! Your post has been approved by Julie.

[High Five]

-sw

Yeah, I see tuna and cheddar on pizza every time I visit Planet Bove.

-sw

You can't rent this stuff at Red Box.

-sw

You tell him Julie!

<snort>

-sw

That wasn't your original argument. Your argument was that you
couldn't remember where you got them. Then when somebody tells you
how to solve that problem, you come up with a different argument to
explain why the proposed solution won't work.

Same 'ol song and dance.

-sw

<snip rest unread>

-sw

So WTF are you basing your unfounded theories on? Angela was about 3
years old and you had left grade school decades earlier. What would
have been your direct experience with the New York public school
system in the early 2000's?

-sw

What I'm trying to say is that Julie is full of shit again. It's
amazing how much time Julie spends describing her miserable fantasy
world.

-sw


Again, only in YOUR house.

-sw

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On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:

>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> ====
>


I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups. Once in a while I
see something really idiotic posted and am surprised that it has not
been cross posted.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>> ====
>
>I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.

So in fact you have had problems.

On 3/11/2016 6:03 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2016-03-11 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>>> ====
>>
>> I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>> way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.
>
> So in fact you have had problems.
>
The problem is not with Thunderbird, it's problems with idiotic
cross-posting trolls. There is likely a way to filter that somewhere in
the setting up of message filters. Me, I try to pay attention and
simply delete the other groups when I see something has been
cross-posted. Then I k/f the troll who started it.

As for Graham's problem, he needs to check under settings/server
settings. Make sure "Always Request Authentication" is selected. I was
getting that same error (Not allowed to post). While trouble-shooting I
had deselected that option and it gave me that same error.

Then again, I was also having issues with the news server which is why I
was fiddling around with the Thunderbird settings in the first place.

Jill

Roy wrote:
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program.

Nonsense... Thunderbird is the best of California's vinyards:
http://www.fermentedreviews.com/thun...alifornia.html

By the way, Roy is a limp wristed faggot name.

On 2016-03-11 6:03 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:

>>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>>> ====
>>
>> I have been using it for years without problems. I just wish there was a
>> way to filter our messages posted to multiple groups.
>
> So in fact you have had problems.
>


Not really. I is nothing insurmountable. I just filter the sender or
topic. Being cross posted to a number of groups is usually a pretty
good indication that it is going to be something weird.

On 3/11/2016 4:35 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> ====
>
I'm surprised he doesn't claim it's CHINESE!

Jill

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> > > I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
> > > "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
> > > newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
> > > It's not the provider.
> > > Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> ====

I DLed it and tried it for a while, Thunderbird does not know the difference between SMTP email and Usenet Newsgroups.

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:58:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> > > I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> > > "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> > > newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> > > It's not the provider.
>> > > Has anyone else had this problem?
>> >
>> > Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>> >
>> > John Kuthe...
>>
>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>> ====
>
>I DLed it and tried it for a while, Thunderbird does not know the difference between SMTP email and Usenet Newsgroups.

Of course it does. But why don't you just redownload Free Agent?

--
Bruce

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:58:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
>> >
>> > Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>> >
>>
>> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
>> ====
>
>I DLed it and tried it for a while, Thunderbird does not know the difference between SMTP email and Usenet Newsgroups.

LOL, a 'computer engineer' that says something like that.

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:58:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
> >> >
> >>
> >> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> >> ====
> >
> >I DLed it and tried it for a while, Thunderbird does not know the difference between SMTP email and Usenet Newsgroups.
>
> LOL, a 'computer engineer' that says something like that.

Well, both rely on ASCII text for their message contents, I'll give them that!! But other than that...

John Kuthe...

On 12/03/2016 8:35 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:08:30 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>>> It's not the provider.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> John, you are so full of baloney, its coming out of your ears. Thunderbird when set up properly is great...I've used it for years.
> ====
>
Agreed, never had any issues with Thunderbird in all the time I've been
using it.

--

Xeno

On 3/11/2016 3:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

T=bird portable works just fine for me. I see no reason to change.

On 3/11/2016 10:08 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>> "You are not allowed to post" message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>> newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>> It's not the provider.
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thunderbird is an email clinet program that tries to pretend it's also purports itself to be a Usenet newsreader program, and does not know the differences between SMTP email and Usenet newsgroups! POS software!! Run away.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

You're thinking that an integrated mail/newsgroup is the same as "don't
know the difference between." The advantages of this should be obvious -
the size of one program would be smaller than two programs. For me, it's
just spiffy since I don't have to switch between programs. It is most
convenient! It's also got an awesome set of filter if one is into that.
I filter my email but not Usenet.

OTOH, the disadvantages are equally obvious - most people aren't
interested in Usenet and this means that as a email program, it's
footprint might be on the large size.

OTOH, my guess is that in a short while, we'll all be using web-based
programs for mail and newsgroups - unless Google pulls the plug on
Google Groups.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:56:42 -0700, graham > wrote:

>I use Thunderbird for newsgroups. When I try to post, I keep getting a
>“You are not allowed to post” message. I have to re-subscribe to the
>newsgroup each time before the message posts. Damned annoying!!!!!!
>It's not the provider.
>
>Has anyone else had this problem?

Never heard of that one, but not a lot surprises me with T-Bird.
Maybe consider using a proper newsreader? The times I've tried any
Mozilla based email client for Usenet, well, it invariably gets messy.