"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:27:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:17:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood can do?
>>>>I
>>>>do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>
>>>>John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>
>>>>I know what low levels can do. Oh the pain!
>>>
>>> snip
>>> then you already know that you should cut back on your consumption of
>>> cola.
>>> "A handful of published reports describe individuals with severe
>>> hypokalemia related to chronic extreme consumption (4-10 l/day) of
>>> colas.[9] The hypokalemia is thought to be from the combination of the
>>> diuretic effect of caffeine[10] and copious fluid intake, although it
>>> may also be related to diarrhea caused by heavy fructose
>>> ingestion.[11][12] A physiological response to hypercapnia, blood
>>> potassium (as well as calcium) helps offset acidosis, which is
>>> consistent with chronic, extreme consumption of carbonated beverages."
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Good thing I don't drink the stuff, huh!? I drink diet Coke. And you do
>>know that hyper means too much. Right? I had too little. And it wasn't
>>related to diet Coke. It was related to a medical condition. I also do
>>not
>>have acidosis. In fact I tend to run very alkaline and yes, I have been
>>tested.
>
> you do know that cola is a generic reference to Coke, Pepsi? It
> doesn't matter if it is diet or not, cola is cola. And that
> hypokalemia means low?
> "Hypokalemia or hypokalaemia, also hypopotassemia or hypopotassaemia,
> refers to the condition in which the concentration of potassium in the
> blood is low. The Greek prefix hypo- means "under"; kal- refers to
> kalium, the Neo-Latin for potassium, and -emia means "condition of the
> blood" in Greek"
> so you have a medical condition in which your potassium level is low
> but you will continue an extreme consumption of cola that wastes
> bodily potassium.
> Janet US

Oh and... I looked on the can because I could have sworn that Diet Coke had
potassium *in* it and whoa! It does. Lookie he

http://www.dietandfitnesstoday.com/p...um-in-coke.php

And please don't try to tell me which foods are high in potassium. I
already know. Like I said... I have studied this stuff.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:28:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:25:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news:aqpbebt24obsbhdpnds7u7k9a9ek9jga3q@4ax. com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please quit your medical advice. I neither agree with you or John,
>>>>>>> but I find your disparagement of his professional knowledge
>>>>>>> offensive.
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I for one don't care what you think and he is not only flat out wrong
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>this but also saying offensive things about females suffering from a
>>>>>>medical
>>>>>>condition in another thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was not addressing you.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>>I didn't say that you were. But here's how the Internet works. Anyone
>>>>can
>>>>respond to anyone.
>>>
>>> Ahhhh. . .you were sticking your oar in just to participate. That
>>> explains a lot.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> That seems to be what everyone here does. Why should I be any different?
>
> Indeed and that is how it works. But not you. You have to do as you are
> told by the elite.

Yep.

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:27:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:17:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood can do?
> >>>>I
> >>>>do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
> >>>>
> >>>>John Kuthe...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>---
> >>>>
> >>>>I know what low levels can do. Oh the pain!
> >>>
> >>> snip
> >>> then you already know that you should cut back on your consumption of
> >>> cola.
> >>> "A handful of published reports describe individuals with severe
> >>> hypokalemia related to chronic extreme consumption (4-10 l/day) of
> >>> colas.[9] The hypokalemia is thought to be from the combination of the
> >>> diuretic effect of caffeine[10] and copious fluid intake, although it
> >>> may also be related to diarrhea caused by heavy fructose
> >>> ingestion.[11][12] A physiological response to hypercapnia, blood
> >>> potassium (as well as calcium) helps offset acidosis, which is
> >>> consistent with chronic, extreme consumption of carbonated beverages."
> >>> Janet US
> >>
> >>Good thing I don't drink the stuff, huh!? I drink diet Coke. And you do
> >>know that hyper means too much. Right? I had too little. And it wasn't
> >>related to diet Coke. It was related to a medical condition. I also do
> >>not
> >>have acidosis. In fact I tend to run very alkaline and yes, I have been
> >>tested.
> >
> > you do know that cola is a generic reference to Coke, Pepsi? It
> > doesn't matter if it is diet or not, cola is cola. And that
> > hypokalemia means low?
> > "Hypokalemia or hypokalaemia, also hypopotassemia or hypopotassaemia,
> > refers to the condition in which the concentration of potassium in the
> > blood is low. The Greek prefix hypo- means "under"; kal- refers to
> > kalium, the Neo-Latin for potassium, and -emia means "condition of the
> > blood" in Greek"
> > so you have a medical condition in which your potassium level is low
> > but you will continue an extreme consumption of cola that wastes
> > bodily potassium.
> > Janet US
>
> No. I do not currently have a medical condition in which my potassium is
> low. I also don't have an extreme consumption of cola.
>
> I had low potassium upon diagnosis of type 2 diabetes. I am pretty sure
> that you do not want to know the symptoms I was having upon diagnosis. They
> were pretty graphic. And they were likely what led to the low potassium.
> Had nothing to do with cola.
>
> I was just at the Endo. earlier. And no, he is not a quack. He said that
> my current problems relate to being on too low a dose of thyroid med.
> Although on range on paper, I am having symptoms. And I am very close to
> the upper range of TSH which indicates hypo.
>
> I don't need medical advice from you. I see enough Drs. And my dad took
> Latin. I heard enough of that at home.


Hypo / Hyper originate from Greek, not Latin.
Too bad you didn't take Geography.

Janet UK

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 3:17:54 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
An awful lot of deletion...but necessary.
>
> They even make certain diabetes medicines that are supposed to allow you to
> eat more carbs. But they only work with certain types of carbs. I was put
> on one in addition to my other two diabetes meds when that Dr. didn't know
> what to do with me. That med was Starlix and it didn't do a danged thing
> for me. He had me taking it with each meal. Another is Precose. From what
> I have heard, people who use that one sometimes use it only when they want
> to eat more carbs. I am not sure how commonly it is prescribed now. But I
> think it is not as common as it was when they first came out with it.
====
Julie, it would seem that you know more than your dieticians and your endocrinologists, so why do you even go to them?
I do believe that you do ask for trouble when you become the expert and don't heed the advice
of those with years of study and practice.
=====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 3:17:54 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> An awful lot of deletion...but necessary.
>>
>> They even make certain diabetes medicines that are supposed to allow you
>> to
>> eat more carbs. But they only work with certain types of carbs. I was
>> put
>> on one in addition to my other two diabetes meds when that Dr. didn't
>> know
>> what to do with me. That med was Starlix and it didn't do a danged thing
>> for me. He had me taking it with each meal. Another is Precose. From
>> what
>> I have heard, people who use that one sometimes use it only when they
>> want
>> to eat more carbs. I am not sure how commonly it is prescribed now. But
>> I
>> think it is not as common as it was when they first came out with it.
> ====
> Julie, it would seem that you know more than your dieticians and your
> endocrinologists, so why do you even go to them?
> I do believe that you do ask for trouble when you become the expert and
> don't heed the advice
> of those with years of study and practice.
> =====

Stuff it, Roy.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:11:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Janet B" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:28:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:25:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
> om...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Please quit your medical advice. I neither agree with you or John,
> >>>>>> but I find your disparagement of his professional knowledge
> >>>>>> offensive.
> >>>>>> Janet US
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I for one don't care what you think and he is not only flat out wrong
> >>>>>on
> >>>>>this but also saying offensive things about females suffering from a
> >>>>>medical
> >>>>>condition in another thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was not addressing you.
> >>>> Janet US
> >>>
> >>>I didn't say that you were. But here's how the Internet works. Anyone
> >>>can
> >>>respond to anyone.
> >>
> >> Ahhhh. . .you were sticking your oar in just to participate. That
> >> explains a lot.
> >> Janet US
> >
> > That seems to be what everyone here does. Why should I be any different?
>
> Indeed and that is how it works. But not you. You have to do as you are
> told by the elite.

Inserting her 2 cents into the conversation is one thing, acting as if
she was the one Janet B was actually talking to is yet another, and
that's how Julie ****es everyone off.

--

sf

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 3:17:54 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> An awful lot of deletion...but necessary.
>>>
>>> They even make certain diabetes medicines that are supposed to allow you
>>> to
>>> eat more carbs. But they only work with certain types of carbs. I was
>>> put
>>> on one in addition to my other two diabetes meds when that Dr. didn't
>>> know
>>> what to do with me. That med was Starlix and it didn't do a danged
>>> thing
>>> for me. He had me taking it with each meal. Another is Precose. From
>>> what
>>> I have heard, people who use that one sometimes use it only when they
>>> want
>>> to eat more carbs. I am not sure how commonly it is prescribed now.
>>> But I
>>> think it is not as common as it was when they first came out with it.
>> ====
>> Julie, it would seem that you know more than your dieticians and your
>> endocrinologists, so why do you even go to them?
>> I do believe that you do ask for trouble when you become the expert and
>> don't heed the advice
>> of those with years of study and practice.
>> =====
>
> Stuff it, Roy.

I'm sure you do know more about *your* diabetes than the docs and dieticians
do Julie, since you are the one testing after fasting, meals, snacks etc.
daily not them, so you know what works for you, they are there to advise you
like my doc says but they can't be there 24/7, so I agree with you...stuff
it Roy!

Cheri

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 2:28:51 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Roy" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 3:17:54 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> An awful lot of deletion...but necessary.
> >>>
> >>> They even make certain diabetes medicines that are supposed to allow you
> >>> to
> >>> eat more carbs. But they only work with certain types of carbs. I was
> >>> put
> >>> on one in addition to my other two diabetes meds when that Dr. didn't
> >>> know
> >>> what to do with me. That med was Starlix and it didn't do a danged
> >>> thing
> >>> for me. He had me taking it with each meal. Another is Precose. From
> >>> what
> >>> I have heard, people who use that one sometimes use it only when they
> >>> want
> >>> to eat more carbs. I am not sure how commonly it is prescribed now.
> >>> But I
> >>> think it is not as common as it was when they first came out with it.
> >> ====
> >> Julie, it would seem that you know more than your dieticians and your
> >> endocrinologists, so why do you even go to them?
> >> I do believe that you do ask for trouble when you become the expert and
> >> don't heed the advice
> >> of those with years of study and practice.
> >> =====
> >
> > Stuff it, Roy.
>
> I'm sure you do know more about *your* diabetes than the docs and dieticians
> do Julie, since you are the one testing after fasting, meals, snacks etc.
> daily not them, so you know what works for you, they are there to advise you
> like my doc says but they can't be there 24/7, so I agree with you...stuff
> it Roy!
>
> Cheri

Knowing is one thing, interpreting the results of tests differently than that of the "specialists" is another. Julie likes to go to what many refer to as QUACK sites for information. That is dangerous.
====

On 3/12/2016 11:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> Which is still loaded with salt! Most all processed foods are.
>> Restaurant foods too! Salt is very cheap and makes people go
>> "YUM!", much like sugar!
>
> And speaking of salt, I'm about out so I bought a canister of salt
> today. Just regular old container of salt.
>
> The Morton was 89 cents for 28oz. I bought the same exact thing
> labeled "Essential Everyday" for 49 cents.
>
Do you buy iodized salt? I have wondered if a normal diet contains
enough iodine to not need that in salt anymore but I really don't know.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:11:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:28:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:25:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Please quit your medical advice. I neither agree with you or
>> >>>>>> John,
>> >>>>>> but I find your disparagement of his professional knowledge
>> >>>>>> offensive.
>> >>>>>> Janet US
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I for one don't care what you think and he is not only flat out
>> >>>>>wrong
>> >>>>>on
>> >>>>>this but also saying offensive things about females suffering from a
>> >>>>>medical
>> >>>>>condition in another thread.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was not addressing you.
>> >>>> Janet US
>> >>>
>> >>>I didn't say that you were. But here's how the Internet works.
>> >>>Anyone
>> >>>can
>> >>>respond to anyone.
>> >>
>> >> Ahhhh. . .you were sticking your oar in just to participate. That
>> >> explains a lot.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> > That seems to be what everyone here does. Why should I be any
>> > different?
>>
>> Indeed and that is how it works. But not you. You have to do as you are
>> told by the elite.
>
> Inserting her 2 cents into the conversation is one thing, acting as if
> she was the one Janet B was actually talking to is yet another, and
> that's how Julie ****es everyone off.

And yet, I didn't do that.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
=>> Stuff it, Roy.
>
> I'm sure you do know more about *your* diabetes than the docs and
> dieticians do Julie, since you are the one testing after fasting, meals,
> snacks etc. daily not them, so you know what works for you, they are there
> to advise you like my doc says but they can't be there 24/7, so I agree
> with you...stuff it Roy!
>
> Cheri

Yep.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 2:28:51 PM UTC-6, Cheri wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Roy" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 3:17:54 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> An awful lot of deletion...but necessary.
>> >>>
>> >>> They even make certain diabetes medicines that are supposed to allow
>> >>> you
>> >>> to
>> >>> eat more carbs. But they only work with certain types of carbs. I
>> >>> was
>> >>> put
>> >>> on one in addition to my other two diabetes meds when that Dr. didn't
>> >>> know
>> >>> what to do with me. That med was Starlix and it didn't do a danged
>> >>> thing
>> >>> for me. He had me taking it with each meal. Another is Precose.
>> >>> From
>> >>> what
>> >>> I have heard, people who use that one sometimes use it only when they
>> >>> want
>> >>> to eat more carbs. I am not sure how commonly it is prescribed now.
>> >>> But I
>> >>> think it is not as common as it was when they first came out with it.
>> >> ====
>> >> Julie, it would seem that you know more than your dieticians and your
>> >> endocrinologists, so why do you even go to them?
>> >> I do believe that you do ask for trouble when you become the expert
>> >> and
>> >> don't heed the advice
>> >> of those with years of study and practice.
>> >> =====
>> >
>> > Stuff it, Roy.
>>
>> I'm sure you do know more about *your* diabetes than the docs and
>> dieticians
>> do Julie, since you are the one testing after fasting, meals, snacks etc.
>> daily not them, so you know what works for you, they are there to advise
>> you
>> like my doc says but they can't be there 24/7, so I agree with
>> you...stuff
>> it Roy!
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Knowing is one thing, interpreting the results of tests differently than
> that of the "specialists" is another. Julie likes to go to what many refer
> to as QUACK sites for information. That is dangerous.
> ====

And when did I ever do that, Roy? I did catch things on my labs that they
didn't. And not just my labs but other people's. Dr. tells us that the
labs are all normal and I will point out, "Oh! Isn't that anemia?" Oh, yes
it is! And then we were told to take iron.

The Drs. and dieticians I have seen are well aware that I drink Diet Coke
and how much. Not one ever told me to stop or that it was causing a
problem. I have also been tested for acid/alkaline. I am always alkaline.
In fact this summer I did sicken myself by making myself too alkaline. I
bought a different brand of water thinking it was like Smart water which is
a water with electrolytes. But no. What I bought was alkaline water. I
had been drinking several bottles a day.

After I realized the problem, I limited myself to one bottle per day.

On 3/14/2016 12:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood can
>>> do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>
> Scary thought huh?
>
> Cheri

If John Kuthe actually is an RN it seems all he's done with the degree
is mention it here. I certainly wouldn't take medical advice from him.
Then again, I don't turn to RFC or anywhere online or usenet for
medical advice.

He had some minor success making and shipping a few boxes of homemade
chocolate covered cherries a couple of years ago. Kudos for that. But
that doesn't make him a professional choclatier, either.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/14/2016 12:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood can
>>>> do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>
>> Scary thought huh?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> If John Kuthe actually is an RN it seems all he's done with the degree is
> mention it here. I certainly wouldn't take medical advice from him. Then
> again, I don't turn to RFC or anywhere online or usenet for medical
> advice.
>
> He had some minor success making and shipping a few boxes of homemade
> chocolate covered cherries a couple of years ago. Kudos for that. But
> that doesn't make him a professional choclatier, either.
>
> Jill

When he sticks with candy making etc., he's interesting, but I wouldn't let
him anywhere near me or mine medically in reality.

Cheri

John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-6, MisterDiddyWahDiddy
> wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 11:16:32 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> > > On 3/13/2016 11:55 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >> We are ALL salt sensitive, DUH!! One of the three main
> > > electolytes in >> our bodies and bloodstream! Normally an excess
> > > of dietary salt causes >> one to be very thirsty for water, which
> > > is how our bodies flush out >> the excess salt/sodium. Of course
> > > an excess of salt also plays a >> large role in high blood
> > > pressure and a host of other maladies.
> > > > >
> > > >> John Kuthe...
> > > > >
> > > >> ---
> > > > >
> > > >> Nonsense. My friend is salt sensitive. I am not. In fact,
> > > very few >> people are sensitive in terms of high BP.
> > > >
> > > > It's become a rote diagnosis these days. USA teachings for
> > > > medical people are all about salt being evil.
> > >
> > > I don't know about USA medical people being taught salt is evil.
> > > I like salt. I don't salt food before tasting it but I've always
> > > liked salt. I do know I never had a doctor tell me to lower my
> > > salt intake. Conversely, I never had one tell me to increase it.
> > >
> > > There's always some fearmonger out there with some "study"
> > > yelling about salt = high blood pressure. What about
> > > cholesterol? Remember when eggs were bad for you? Oh wait, no
> > > they're not. Flip flop "science".
> > >
> > > I don't pay much attention to these reports. I eat whatever I
> > > like, whenever I like, always in moderation.
> > >
> > > Oh, and Kuthe seems to think drinking water is a bad thing. I
> > > drink water every day, even if I haven't eaten anything salty.
> > >
> > Kuthe is an insecure narcissist who wants to be respected, and all
> > he has are his "degrees" and his chocolate covered cherries.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > --Bryan
>
> No Bryan, I'm not narcissistic, I'm well controlled Bipolar Disorder.
> You and Frumpf are raging uncontrolled Narcissistic Personality
> Disorder. I'm sorry you have no college degrees, but with your
> inability to stick with something it does not surprise me either.
> Same reason you have none of the Chocolate Covered Cherries which I
> sent you my recipe and you have continued to FAIL to produce!! (and
> any moment Bryan will come back visciously and speciously rebutting
> my true comments with somethinhg about his infantile afccess to
> female body parts!) Yes I have college degrees AND my Chocolate
> Covered Cherries! :-)
>
>
> > > On 3/13/2016 11:55 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Oh, and Kuthe seems to think drinking water is a bad thing. I
> > > drink water every day, even if I haven't eaten anything salty.
>
> Can't find your original post "cshenk", but yes water has an LD50 of
> about 6 gallons, irrespectove of your salt intake. Did you know that?
> So drinking a lot of water too fast can certainly lead to a specific
> problem caled "water toxicity" and I know precisely how it can kill
> because I have a BSN in nursing. Do you?
>
> John Kuthe...

John, I realy do not care for your degree. Normal people know the
basics as well as you might seem to know.

I really do think you get silly when you use the fanciest words you
know to express things instead of common english. No one hre CARES
what you mean by LD50 but I did translate the hypertension codes you
used for the rest since you were all about sounding fancy (HTM) instead
of helping understand the issue.

Carol

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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >"Janet B" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > Please quit your medical advice. I neither agree with you or
> > > John, but I find your disparagement of his professional knowledge
> > > offensive. Janet US
> >
> > I for one don't care what you think and he is not only flat out
> > wrong on this but also saying offensive things about females
> > suffering from a medical condition in another thread.
> >
> > Some of the worst medical advise has been given to me by a nurse.
> > And some of the best. For instance, when I was diagnosed with
> > possible gestational diabetes, a nurse told me that diabetics need
> > to eat a lot of soup, and fruit. She even suggested that I pack a
> > picnic lunch of cream cheese and cucumber sandwiches to take to the
> > beach because cream cheese was high in protein and needed no
> > refrigeration. I told her the last time I checked, it was high in
> > fat and did need refrigeration..
>
> When Himself was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes we were sent to the
> dietician. I was horrified. All high carb low fat nonsense.
>
> I feed him my own cooked food and he never has any problems with his
> blood sugar,

Good on you!

My issue is that true diet is not taught to the general degree medical
'professionals' though a dietician should have a better knowledge that
than a nurse or doctor (because it is a specialty they would have a lot
of extra knowledge in).

No one in their right mind thinks high-carb for the average diabetic.
What you want are foods that 'time delay' breakdown yet a healthy
balance. Complex carbs, protiens, careful balance of the rest.

Gone are the rules of no sugars but a balance is needed.
Carol

--

Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:25:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Janet B" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >> Please quit your medical advice. I neither agree with you or John,
> >> but I find your disparagement of his professional knowledge
> offensive. >> Janet US
> >
> > I for one don't care what you think and he is not only flat out
> > wrong on this but also saying offensive things about females
> > suffering from a medical condition in another thread.
>
> I was not addressing you.
> Janet US

No, you were addressing me. I don't diss John's degree (I assume it is
real) but he obfuscates things needlessly when he wants to sound
important that that tends to negate his value.

--

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> >>> > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >>> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
> >>> > > > sensitive to salt.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Thanks,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
> salt >>> > > related.
> >>> >
> >>> > I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
> >>> > the optimist.
> >>> >
> >>> > > The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
> >>> > > have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
> >>> > > translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
> >>> >
> >>> > I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
> >>> > add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
> >>> >
> >>> > > It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
> >>> >
> >>> > Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> >>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
> > > >
> >>> --
> > >
> > > Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
> > > the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
> > > which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
> > > blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
> > > father not to do that!
> > >
> > > Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
> > > can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
> > healthy diet than Julie does.
>
> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
> sodium.

Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?



--

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/14/2016 12:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood can
>>>>> do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>
>>> Scary thought huh?
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> If John Kuthe actually is an RN it seems all he's done with the degree is
>> mention it here. I certainly wouldn't take medical advice from him. Then
>> again, I don't turn to RFC or anywhere online or usenet for medical
>> advice.
>>
>> He had some minor success making and shipping a few boxes of homemade
>> chocolate covered cherries a couple of years ago. Kudos for that. But
>> that doesn't make him a professional choclatier, either.
>>
>> Jill
>
> When he sticks with candy making etc., he's interesting, but I wouldn't
> let him anywhere near me or mine medically in reality.

Me either, considering some of the scary things he has posted.

My SIL is a nurse but she specialized in dialysis. She does know a lot
about diabetes because she herself had gestational, has a sister who also
had that and now has type 2 and a lot of her patients have it. But now, she
is not working with patients. She is going around teaching about how to
give dialysis and use a certain kind of machine. So while she is likely an
expert in stuff related to that, I wouldn't expect that she has kept up with
the latest news in regards to all other medical conditions.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>> >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > > >
>> >>> > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>> >>> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>> >>> > > > sensitive to salt.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Thanks,
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Cindy Hamilton
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>> salt >>> > > related.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>> >>> > the optimist.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>> >>> > > have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>> >>> > > translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>> >>> > add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> > > >
>> >>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>> > > >
>> >>> --
>> > >
>> > > Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>> > > the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>> > > which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>> > > blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>> > > father not to do that!
>> > >
>> > > Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>> > > can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>> > >
>> > > John Kuthe...
>> >
>> > John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
>> > healthy diet than Julie does.
>>
>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>> sodium.
>
> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?

I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med. Because
I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about taking my
med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only wanted to
know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes this.
He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I seen
those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the upper end
of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because people
without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a high
figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high thyroid).
And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather wide and
if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right dose of
med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you exactly but I
was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he upped my
dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to feel
better on a new dose.

Cheryl wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > The Morton was 89 cents for 28oz. I bought the same exact thing
> > labeled "Essential Everyday" for 49 cents.
> >
> Do you buy iodized salt? I have wondered if a normal diet contains
> enough iodine to not need that in salt anymore but I really don't know.

I really don't know either, Cheryl. I did some googling today though.
Sounds like if you eat a fairly healthy diet, you'll get enough
just from what you eat.

If you use a multi-vitamin, it will provide all you need.

Even the "experts" aren't sure from what I read today.

Here's one link I read, if you are interested.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-io...80G1OZ20120117

So anyway, I did buy iodized salt. I looked on the box and see that
just 1/2 teaspoon of this salt gives you 90% daily requirement.
I always use more than that.
Hell, I'll use at least that amount on a single baked potato.

Bottom line - sometimes I buy plain and sometimes iodized and
I've never had any issues. YMMV.

Hope your finger heals soon.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:57:54 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 3/12/2016 11:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >> Which is still loaded with salt! Most all processed foods are.
> >> Restaurant foods too! Salt is very cheap and makes people go
> >> "YUM!", much like sugar!
> >
> > And speaking of salt, I'm about out so I bought a canister of salt
> > today. Just regular old container of salt.
> >
> > The Morton was 89 cents for 28oz. I bought the same exact thing
> > labeled "Essential Everyday" for 49 cents.
> >
> Do you buy iodized salt? I have wondered if a normal diet contains
> enough iodine to not need that in salt anymore but I really don't know.

I always used iodized salt when my kids were kids for that reason. I
also used cast iron pans for to make sure there was enough iron in
their diet. Maybe it was a fallacy on my part, but everyone turned
out healthy. I use Kosher salt now because I like the larger grains.

--

sf

On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 1:47:46 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:57:54 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
> > On 3/12/2016 11:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Which is still loaded with salt! Most all processed foods are.
> > >> Restaurant foods too! Salt is very cheap and makes people go
> > >> "YUM!", much like sugar!
> > >
> > > And speaking of salt, I'm about out so I bought a canister of salt
> > > today. Just regular old container of salt.
> > >
> > > The Morton was 89 cents for 28oz. I bought the same exact thing
> > > labeled "Essential Everyday" for 49 cents.
> > >
> > Do you buy iodized salt? I have wondered if a normal diet contains
> > enough iodine to not need that in salt anymore but I really don't know.
>
> I always used iodized salt when my kids were kids for that reason. I
> also used cast iron pans for to make sure there was enough iron in
> their diet. Maybe it was a fallacy on my part, but everyone turned
> out healthy. I use Kosher salt now because I like the larger grains.
>
> --
>
> sf

Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>
> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >
> >> > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> >> >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> > > >
> >> >>> > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >> >>> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
> >> >>> > > > wrote:
> >> >>> > > > > You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
> >> >>> > > > sensitive to salt.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Thanks,
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
> >> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
> >> salt >>> > > related.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
> >> >>> > the optimist.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
> >> >>> > > have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
> >> >>> > > translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
> >> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
> >> >>> > add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
> >> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
> >> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
> >> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> > > >
> >> >>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
> >> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
> >> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
> >> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
> >> > > >
> >> >>> --
> >> > >
> >> > > Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
> >> > > the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
> >> > > which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
> >> > > blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
> >> > > father not to do that!
> >> > >
> >> > > Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
> >> > > can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
> >> > >
> >> > > John Kuthe...
> >> >
> >> > John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
> >> > healthy diet than Julie does.
> >>
> >> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
> >> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
> >> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
> >> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
> >> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
> >> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
> >> sodium.
> >
> > Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>
> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med. Because
> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about taking my
> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only wanted to
> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes this.
> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I seen
> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the upper end
> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because people
> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a high
> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high thyroid).
> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather wide and
> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right dose of
> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you exactly but I
> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he upped my
> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to feel
> better on a new dose.

Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"? Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.
====

On 2016-03-16 6:17 PM, Roy wrote:

> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"? Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.

Her only real doctor is her shrink.

On 16/03/2016 4:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-03-16 6:17 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my
>> Endo"? Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such
>> a way.
>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it
>> wouldn't go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain
>> just that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your
>> rebuttal to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that.
>> If he were to hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream
>> your ass out, but good.
>
> Her only real doctor is her shrink.
>
>
That's a wrap!

On 3/16/2016 12:17 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to salt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>>>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>>>> salt >>> > > related.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>>>>>>>> the optimist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>>>>>>>>> have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>>>>>>>>> translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>>>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>>>>>>>> add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>>>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>>>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>>>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>>>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>>>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
>>>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>>>>>> the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>>>>>> which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>>>>>> blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>>>>>> father not to do that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>>>>>> can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>>> John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
>>>>> healthy diet than Julie does.
>>>>
>>>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
>>>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>>>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>>>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>>>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>>>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>>>> sodium.
>>>
>>> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>>
>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med. Because
>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about taking my
>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only wanted to
>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes this.
>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I seen
>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the upper end
>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because people
>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a high
>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high thyroid).
>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather wide and
>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right dose of
>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you exactly but I
>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he upped my
>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to feel
>> better on a new dose.
>
> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"? Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.
> ====
>

Well, she can call her doc anything she wants. Doctors get called
"dickheads" every day. She can blab pretty much anything and everything
about her relationship to her doc. OTOH, her doc can't do any of that,
he could get his ass sued if he did. Double standards? You bet!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > The Morton was 89 cents for 28oz. I bought the same exact thing
>> > labeled "Essential Everyday" for 49 cents.
>> >
>> Do you buy iodized salt? I have wondered if a normal diet contains
>> enough iodine to not need that in salt anymore but I really don't know.
>
> I really don't know either, Cheryl. I did some googling today though.
> Sounds like if you eat a fairly healthy diet, you'll get enough
> just from what you eat.
>
> If you use a multi-vitamin, it will provide all you need.
>
> Even the "experts" aren't sure from what I read today.
>
> Here's one link I read, if you are interested.
> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-io...80G1OZ20120117
>
> So anyway, I did buy iodized salt. I looked on the box and see that
> just 1/2 teaspoon of this salt gives you 90% daily requirement.
> I always use more than that.
> Hell, I'll use at least that amount on a single baked potato.
>
> Bottom line - sometimes I buy plain and sometimes iodized and
> I've never had any issues. YMMV.
>
> Hope your finger heals soon.

Not all multiples contain iodine. I was surprised to see that the one I was
already taking did not.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>
> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >
> >> > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> >> >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> > > >
> >> >>> > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >> >>> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
> >> >>> > > > wrote:
> >> >>> > > > > You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
> >> >>> > > > sensitive to salt.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Thanks,
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
> >> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
> >> salt >>> > > related.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
> >> >>> > the optimist.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
> >> >>> > > have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
> >> >>> > > translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
> >> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
> >> >>> > add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
> >> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
> >> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
> >> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> > > >
> >> >>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
> >> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
> >> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
> >> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
> >> > > >
> >> >>> --
> >> > >
> >> > > Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
> >> > > the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
> >> > > which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
> >> > > blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
> >> > > father not to do that!
> >> > >
> >> > > Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
> >> > > can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
> >> > >
> >> > > John Kuthe...
> >> >
> >> > John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
> >> > healthy diet than Julie does.
> >>
> >> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
> >> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
> >> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
> >> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
> >> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
> >> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
> >> sodium.
> >
> > Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>
> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
> Because
> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about taking my
> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only wanted to
> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
> this.
> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I
> seen
> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the upper
> end
> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because people
> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
> high
> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
> thyroid).
> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather wide
> and
> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right dose
> of
> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you exactly but
> I
> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he upped my
> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to
> feel
> better on a new dose.

Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"?
Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't
go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just
that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal
to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to
hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.
====

He has a very good sense of humor. And I think he knows that most patients
do refer to their Endocrinologists as their Endo's. It's a commonly used
term on medical newsgroups and forums. I have also given him a high rating
online.

I don't know what your problem is. You seem to have issues and problems
with everything I post here. Would suck to be you. You seem like a very
unhappy person. Ima go forage now. Angela and I are all full of taqueria
goodies so we're not ready for dinner but husband likely is. Need to make
some freezer space.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 1:47:46 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:57:54 -0400, Cheryl >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/12/2016 11:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> > > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Which is still loaded with salt! Most all processed foods are.
> > > >> Restaurant foods too! Salt is very cheap and makes people go
> > > >> "YUM!", much like sugar!
> > > >
> > > > And speaking of salt, I'm about out so I bought a canister of salt
> > > > today. Just regular old container of salt.
> > > >
> > > > The Morton was 89 cents for 28oz. I bought the same exact thing
> > > > labeled "Essential Everyday" for 49 cents.
> > > >
> > > Do you buy iodized salt? I have wondered if a normal diet contains
> > > enough iodine to not need that in salt anymore but I really don't know.
> >
> > I always used iodized salt when my kids were kids for that reason. I
> > also used cast iron pans for to make sure there was enough iron in
> > their diet. Maybe it was a fallacy on my part, but everyone turned
> > out healthy. I use Kosher salt now because I like the larger grains.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)
>

I can do that and often do. We char our steaks on purpose.

--

sf

On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:03:45 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
....
> > Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)
> >
>
> I can do that and often do. We char our steaks on purpose.
>
> --
>
> sf

You DO realize I'm being stupidly facetious. There's carbon in everything you eat!

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:54:21 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:03:45 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > > wrote:
> ...
> > > Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)
> > >
> >
> > I can do that and often do. We char our steaks on purpose.
> >
> > --
> >
> > sf
>
> You DO realize I'm being stupidly facetious. There's carbon in everything you eat!
>

Are you going to wave some degree around now?

--

sf

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:40:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>> >> >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>> > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>> >> >>> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>> >> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >> >>> > > > > You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>> >> >>> > > >
>> >> >>> > > > Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>> >> >>> > > > sensitive to salt.
>> >> >>> > > >
>> >> >>> > > > Thanks,
>> >> >>> > > >
>> >> >>> > > > Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>> >> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>> >> salt >>> > > related.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>> >> >>> > the optimist.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > > The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>> >> >>> > > have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>> >> >>> > > translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>> >> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>> >> >>> > add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>> >> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > > It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>> >> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>> >> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>> >> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>> >> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
>> >> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>> --
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>> >> > > the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>> >> > > which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>> >> > > blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>> >> > > father not to do that!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>> >> > > can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > John Kuthe...
>> >> >
>> >> > John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
>> >> > healthy diet than Julie does.
>> >>
>> >> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
>> >> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>> >> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>> >> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>> >> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>> >> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>> >> sodium.
>> >
>> > Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>>
>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
>> Because
>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about taking my
>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only wanted to
>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
>> this.
>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I
>> seen
>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the upper
>> end
>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because people
>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
>> high
>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
>> thyroid).
>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather wide
>> and
>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right dose
>> of
>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you exactly but
>> I
>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he upped my
>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to
>> feel
>> better on a new dose.
>
>Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"?
>Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
>If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't
>go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just
>that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal
>to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to
>hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.
>====

Then he'd be her Procto. . .

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:54:21 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:03:45 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>...
>> > Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)
>> >
>>
>> I can do that and often do. We char our steaks on purpose.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
>You DO realize I'm being stupidly facetious. There's carbon in everything you eat!
>
>John Kuthe...

And burned meat is very unhealthy.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:21:19 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:54:21 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:03:45 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> > > wrote:
>> ...
>> > > Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)
>> > >
>> >
>> > I can do that and often do. We char our steaks on purpose.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > sf
>>
>> You DO realize I'm being stupidly facetious. There's carbon in everything you eat!
>>
>
>Are you going to wave some degree around now?

Don't need a degree, every fifth grader knows there's carbon in foods.

On 2016-03-16 10:03 PM, sf wrote:

>> Make sure also that you get enough carbon in your diet! Carbon is
>> an oft ignored mineral! Burnt BBQ is a good and delicious way to
>> insure a sufficient carbon intake! ;-)
>>
>
> I can do that and often do. We char our steaks on purpose.
>

The steaks are only charred because there is already carbon in it.
Organic matter, by definition, contains carbon.

On 3/16/2016 6:17 PM, Roy wrote:
> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"?

I doubt he'd care, Roy. I'm pretty sure he's not following what she
posts to RFC.

Jill

On 3/17/2016 9:25 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"?
>> Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't
>> go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just
>> that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal
>> to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to
>> hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.
>> ====
>
> Then he'd be her Procto. . .
>
Okay, that made me laugh!

Jill

On 3/16/2016 6:17 PM, Roy wrote:

>
> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"? Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't go over too well with his peers, I am sure.

Why? I know a doctor that referred to a cardiologist as "the heart guy"
Doctors are real people too. Had dinner with a couple of them last
night in fact. They are not as stuffy as you make them out to be.

On 3/17/2016 3:25 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:40:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:54:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> You a nurse too? I know about HTN and dietary salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please present some statistics on how many hypertensives are
>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive to salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just posted a link to where some of it started. See, the
>>>>> USA >>> > > doesnt really 'study' this, they just know a segment are
>>>>> salt >>> > > related.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really hoped Kuthe would do his own homework. Ah, well, ever
>>>>>>>>> the optimist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The actual testing Don and I had done validate that many will
>>>>>>>>>> have hypertension (HTN which John tried to be cute about not
>>>>>>>>>> translating). It also showed clearly that it is not
>>>>> 'universal' >>> > > which John probably does not know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I eat a metric boatload of salt, and my BP is fine. I probably
>>>>>>>>> add more salt to my morning oatmeal than some of the salt
>>>>> nannies >>> > eat in an entire day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's in the excerpt that it's safe to reduce salt for all of
>>>>> us >>> > > and that it was too expensive to conduct detailed studies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, sure. It wouldn't hurt me to reduce my salt intake, but
>>>>> it >>> > probably wouldn't do any good, either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exactly Cindy. Unless you have a condition that salt may be
>>>>> related >>> to, a normal salt diet is fine. If you do have a
>>>>> condition such as >>> hypertension (BP issues) then it doesnt harm to
>>>>> try a reduced salt >>> to see if it lessons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you switch to and eat a lot of "salt substitutes", namely
>>>>>>> the ones substituting Potassium Chloride for Sodium Chloride,
>>>>>>> which my father who had HTN did years ago, them when his MD ran a
>>>>>>> blood test and found his potassium levels very high, MD told my
>>>>>>> father not to do that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Know what high potassium ion (electrolyte) levels in your blood
>>>>>>> can do? I do, because I'm an RN and I know stuff like this!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John, you may tell us you are an RN but guess what, you know less on
>>>>>> healthy diet than Julie does.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have spent countless hours studying diet, starting with back when I
>>>>> became a vegetarian. I wanted to make sure that I was eating a
>>>>> balanced diet. And due to my various medical problems, I tend
>>>>> towards vitamin and mineral deficiencies which I always try to
>>>>> address first with diet, then supplements because that isn't enough.
>>>>> I've been having stiff knees so am eating more celery. Why? The
>>>>> sodium.
>>>>
>>>> Could be shrimp, shell on, might be a better solution?
>>>
>>> I would never eat shrimp. Just doesn't smell or look appealing. Endo.
>>> thinks it is because I am not on a high enough dose of thyroid med.
>>> Because
>>> I now have no thyroid at all, I have to be super careful about taking my
>>> med. The surgeon was rather treating me like someone that only wanted to
>>> know the simple stuff and that's not me. Thankfully my Endo. realizes
>>> this.
>>> He gave me a copy of the labs from the other Dr. I told him that had I
>>> seen
>>> those labs, I would have known that the TSH was off. I was at the upper
>>> end
>>> of the range. I won't get too much into the thyroid stuff because people
>>> without a thyroid problem likely won't care. But with thyroid labs, a
>>> high
>>> figure means hypo (low thyroid) and a low figure means hyper (high
>>> thyroid).
>>> And the labs are really just a piece of paper. The range is rather wide
>>> and
>>> if a person is still having symptoms then they are not on the right dose
>>> of
>>> med for them. I left the paper in the car so I can't tell you exactly but
>>> I
>>> was close to 5.0 and he said I need to be closer to 1.0. So he upped my
>>> dose a bit. I know from past experience that it can take a few days to
>>> feel
>>> better on a new dose.
>>
>> Julie, does your endocrinologist know that you refer to him as "my Endo"?
>> Not very good form to familiarize his profession status in such a way.
>> If I were to refer to my Thoracic surgeon as "my Thoracic guy", it wouldn't
>> go over too well with his peers, I am sure.
>> By the way, confidential consultations with your "Endo" should remain just
>> that...CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET. Relating his conclusions and your rebuttal
>> to them are not our business either...PLEASE remember that. If he were to
>> hear of your behaviour in this regard, he would ream your ass out, but good.
>> ====
>
> Then he'd be her Procto. . .
>
>
>

I don't know how those docs can stand being the butt of jokes every
single day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws