Is this just a new name for an old food idea?

On 2/10/2015 9:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>

Not sure, and it seems the term 'slider' has become especially popular
of late. Most sliders, it seems to me, are like 'tapas' - small foods.
Heh, it is just another example of "smaller portions/sizes" with
higher prices :/ For example, a White Castle "slider" (term used for a
long time) is relatively inexpensive, but order a similar item at a
non-fast-food, proper restaurant can take a toll on one's wallet, IME
White Castle (hamburger) sliders should be called "slimey sliders"
<g>, ugh!!!

Heck, just look at toilet paper, paper towels, ground coffee, and many
more products --- most have shrinking quantities (weights, portions,
etc.), yet their prices are either the same or slightly increased! Just
my personal observation(s).

Sky

On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>

Seems to me what we call sliders these days originated in places like
White Castle in the Northern US and later served at Krystal in the
South. Small burgers served on small buns. Now they are trendy and
cost a lot in restaurants. I have no idea why.

Jill

On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?

I thought it started with White Castles little burgers,
they slid right down.

That's the gist of the explanation I got, and at the
time I never heard of anyone else selling sliders. Not
even White Castle called them that, it was a nickname.

nancy

On 2015-02-11 03:56:42 +0000, Kalmia said:

> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?

I'm not sure when I first heard the term, but to me it means a
hamburger that you need at least three of to make a meal. Probably it
sounds better than skimp-burger!

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?

I either read or heard that it is because they are small enough to put the
whole thing in your mouth. I think the term originated somewhere on the
East coast. At least that's the first time I heard that term. White
Castles have been around for a long time and they're technically sliders.

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:28:55 PM UTC+10, Sky wrote:
>
> White Castle (hamburger) sliders should be called "slimey sliders"
> <g>, ugh!!!

From the Futurama movie, "Bender's Game":

Titanius Anglesmith: [...] We're but an hour's ride from Wipe Castle.
Greyfarn: Of course. Wipe Castle. And while we're there, we can get some of those greasy little dwarf burgers.
Gynecaladriel: Ooh! I love those. You can eat like eight of them without gaining any weight because of all the diarrhea.

"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-02-11 03:56:42 +0000, Kalmia said:
>
>> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>
> I'm not sure when I first heard the term, but to me it means a hamburger
> that you need at least three of to make a meal. Probably it sounds better
> than skimp-burger!

I like them for a snack. One or two is just perfect.

On 2/10/2015 11:13 PM, Timo wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:28:55 PM UTC+10, Sky wrote:
>>
>> White Castle (hamburger) sliders should be called "slimey sliders"
>> <g>, ugh!!!
>
> From the Futurama movie, "Bender's Game":
>
> Titanius Anglesmith: [...] We're but an hour's ride from Wipe Castle.
> Greyfarn: Of course. Wipe Castle. And while we're there, we can get some of those greasy little dwarf burgers.
> Gynecaladriel: Ooh! I love those. You can eat like eight of them without gaining any weight because of all the diarrhea.
>

Yikes <vbg!>. A very long time ago while in Indianapolis not too far
from the Speedway (er, perhaps 25-years ago?), there was/is a White
Castle. Since I'd never had a White Castle burger/slider before, I just
had to try a one. Nasty, nasty little things, and I never had another
again (whew!!).

White Castle "sliders" have been available in many grocery stores'
freezer sections now for quite a few years. There is now way I'd even
consider buying those slimey things unless I were paid a LOT of $$$$$
But that's just me, heh. A lot of folks must like those 'things' or
else many White Castle franchises (whatever) would've gone out of
business years ago.

Sky

On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:28:52 -0600, Sky >
wrote:

>On 2/10/2015 9:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>>
>
>Not sure, and it seems the term 'slider' has become especially popular
>of late. Most sliders, it seems to me, are like 'tapas' - small foods.
> Heh, it is just another example of "smaller portions/sizes" with
>higher prices :/ For example, a White Castle "slider" (term used for a
....

We called White Castles "shitburgers"!

The bread soaked up ALL the grease from the thin little hunk of meat,
whick has holes so it does not need tio be flipped to cook all the way
through! Thus they are greasy, hence the term "slider"!

John Kuthe...

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On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:34:40 PM UTC-8, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>
> I thought it started with White Castles little burgers,
> they slid right down.

Slide in and slide out.

>
> That's the gist of the explanation I got, and at the
> time I never heard of anyone else selling sliders. Not
> even White Castle called them that, it was a nickname.
>

White Castles typically were open 24 hours, so they got
a lot of inebriated patrons post-bar-closing, who blamed
their gastric distress the next morning on the burgers.

Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>
> I thought it started with White Castles little burgers,
> they slid right down.
>
> That's the gist of the explanation I got, and at the
> time I never heard of anyone else selling sliders. Not
> even White Castle called them that, it was a nickname.
>
> nancy

I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
order until I called them hamburgers. TF?

On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:56:42 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?

That name has been around for a long, long time.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:56:42 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>
> That name has been around for a long, long time.

Yes, it has.

On 2/10/2015 10:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>>
>
> Seems to me what we call sliders these days originated in places like
> White Castle in the Northern US and later served at Krystal in the
> South. Small burgers served on small buns. Now they are trendy and
> cost a lot in restaurants. I have no idea why.
>

Small size food is cute and more fun to eat, plus one serving means
you can indulge and still have room to try other foods.

On 2/10/2015 10:34 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>
> I thought it started with White Castles little burgers,
> they slid right down.
>
> That's the gist of the explanation I got, and at the
> time I never heard of anyone else selling sliders. Not
> even White Castle called them that, it was a nickname.

We always called them Gut Bombs.

On 2/11/2015 2:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>

The Dan Orr Project - Nights In White Castle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lekzEUfCto

Nights in White Castle
I'm drunk once again
Sliders I'm eatin'
With all of my drunken friends
The bars are all closed now
There's nowhere else left to go
What's in these wrapped burgers
I really don't want to know

'Cause I love them
Yes, I love them
Oh, how I love them

Nights in White Castle
Now it's a quarter to four
But I ain't goin' home now
'Cause I'm still lookin' to score
How I love these gut busters
With their little square buns
But I know I'll get heartburn
And a bad case of the runs

But I love them
Yes, I love them
Oh, how I love them
Ohhh...

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 4:56:45 AM UTC+1, Kalmia wrote:
> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?

There is a burger restaurant in Denmark that is trying to be an american diner style place. they have full sized burgers in various styles incl. lamb, like I've only seen in USA before, and they also have a plank of "sliders".. Never having heard that term I looked it up and it seems to be an old US Navy term from at least as old as WW2. Small greasy burgers "slide down" easily, thus being "sliders".

So it is an old term and an even older food, haha, but now it is "hip" too.

On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:

> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>

Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
out the door? How hungry were you? When I go to Starbucks I order a
small. I am not going to start redefining relative sizes to suit their
marketing gimmick and order a tall coffee or grande, and the latter may
be used in a French speaking area though it would be pronounced grand
not granday.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:56:52 -0800 (PST), Michael Nielsen
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 4:56:45 AM UTC+1, Kalmia wrote:
> > Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>
> There is a burger restaurant in Denmark that is trying to be an american diner style place. they have full sized burgers in various styles incl. lamb, like I've only seen in USA before, and they also have a plank of "sliders". Never having heard that term I looked it up and it seems to be an old US Navy term from at least as old as WW2. Small greasy burgers "slide down" easily, thus being "sliders".
>
> So it is an old term and an even older food, haha, but now it is "hip" too.

In modern times, the term slider is a euphemism for small burger (
figure it's a thick quarter pounder) or something that's served in a
small burger bun. Best of all, modern sliders aren't greasy.
http://www.womansday.com/food-recipe...-burgers-82210
http://foodnessgracious.com/2013/06/...lsamic-relish/

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 2/11/2015 12:13 AM, Timo wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:28:55 PM UTC+10, Sky wrote:
>>
>> White Castle (hamburger) sliders should be called "slimey sliders"
>> <g>, ugh!!!
>
> From the Futurama movie, "Bender's Game":
>
> Titanius Anglesmith: [...] We're but an hour's ride from Wipe Castle.
> Greyfarn: Of course. Wipe Castle. And while we're there, we can get some of those greasy little dwarf burgers.
> Gynecaladriel: Ooh! I love those. You can eat like eight of them without gaining any weight because of all the diarrhea.
>
(laugh) I was trying to be polite and not mention that
particular explanation.

nancy

Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
> On 2/10/2015 10:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> >> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
> >>
> >
> > Seems to me what we call sliders these days originated in places like
> > White Castle in the Northern US and later served at Krystal in the
> > South. Small burgers served on small buns. Now they are trendy and
> > cost a lot in restaurants. I have no idea why.
> >
>
> Small size food is cute and more fun to eat, plus one serving means
> you can indulge and still have room to try other foods.

If you like small servings, just look at the "serving size" on any
package of food. It's so silly small, just to make it seem low
calorie.

Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
> On 2/11/2015 2:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> > sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> > late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> > them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> > I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> > order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
> >
>
> The Dan Orr Project - Nights In White Castle
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lekzEUfCto
>
> Nights in White Castle
> I'm drunk once again
> Sliders I'm eatin'
> With all of my drunken friends
> The bars are all closed now
> There's nowhere else left to go
> What's in these wrapped burgers
> I really don't want to know
>
> 'Cause I love them
> Yes, I love them
> Oh, how I love them
>
> Nights in White Castle
> Now it's a quarter to four
> But I ain't goin' home now
> 'Cause I'm still lookin' to score
> How I love these gut busters
> With their little square buns
> But I know I'll get heartburn
> And a bad case of the runs
>
> But I love them
> Yes, I love them
> Oh, how I love them
> Ohhh...

Very funny. Moody Blues were a favorite band of mine.

On 2/11/2015 11:28 AM, sf wrote:

> In modern times, the term slider is a euphemism for small burger (
> figure it's a thick quarter pounder) or something that's served in a
> small burger bun.

Some places offer an assortment, you can get 3 or 4 and choose
from pot roast, pulled pork, etc. Looks yummy.

nancy

On 2/11/2015 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> I thought it started with White Castles little burgers,
>> they slid right down.

> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?

So she knew what you meant, it's not as if she thought you'd
be expecting fries by ordering sliders. Silly.

I never had a local White Castle until maybe 1983, it was a
big deal when they put one up near where I was living at the
time. I tried them once because I had to see what all the
fuss was about, right? Little square burger patties with holes.
They were okay, I guess, I don't remember them particularly,
good or bad.

nancy

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 3:30:05 AM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:

> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?

Good thing you didn't order a fish sandwich by its alternative name:
Aqua Rat

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>>
>
> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
> out the door? How hungry were you?

the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago

I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you

On 2/11/2015 10:58 AM, Gary wrote:

> If you like small servings, just look at the "serving size" on any
> package of food. It's so silly small, just to make it seem low
> calorie.
>

It works for me, because I'm focused on minimizing my intake of
processed foods. If I'm in the mood for some of that, all I really
need is enough to enjoy the taste of it, and then go back to the
healthier stuff on my plate. Same goes for meats - I love hamburgers,
but really, a four ounce portion of meat is a reasonable serving size.
Same goes for hot dogs - just one is sufficient. Problem is, when I'm
done with my one, everyone else is enjoying their second, or still
working on a single massive third- or half-pound burger. If I make two
sliders out of that single portion of meat, or cut the hot dog in
half, I'm doing more with my reasonable portion, without going to excess.

I know, it sounds silly. But it helps keep me from feeling deprived,
thus helps keep me on track for eating more healthily, and not to excess.

On 2/11/2015 1:09 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>>> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>>> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>>> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>>> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>>> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>>>
>>
>> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
>> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
>> out the door? How hungry were you?
>
> the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>
> I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>
When I first came to the US, in upper NY state, it used to amuse my
friends that I would not ask for apple pie "a la mode" and insisted on
saying "with ice cream". I never had any trouble from waiters about it.
On the other hand, I quickly found it necessary to pronounce "tomato"
American style if I really wanted some on a cafeteria hamburger.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> Very funny. Moody Blues were a favorite band of mine.

Yes, they're one of mine too. I really don't get tired of listening to them.

Cheri

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 11:28:49 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:



> In modern times, the term slider is a euphemism for small burger (
> figure it's a thick quarter pounder) or something that's served in a
> small burger bun. Best of all, modern sliders aren't greasy.
> http://www.womansday.com/food-recipe...-burgers-82210
> http://foodnessgracious.com/2013/06/...lsamic-relish/

Some of those womans day recipes look really good. Some of my fave recipes came from their pages. Thanks.

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 10:28:49 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:56:52 -0800 (PST), Michael Nielsen
> > wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 4:56:45 AM UTC+1, Kalmia wrote:
> > > Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
> >
> > There is a burger restaurant in Denmark that is trying to be an american diner style place. they have full sized burgers in various styles incl. lamb, like I've only seen in USA before, and they also have a plank of "sliders". Never having heard that term I looked it up and it seems to be an old US Navy term from at least as old as WW2. Small greasy burgers "slide down" easily, thus being "sliders".
> >
> > So it is an old term and an even older food, haha, but now it is "hip" too.
>
> In modern times, the term slider is a euphemism for small burger (
> figure it's a thick quarter pounder) or something that's served in a
> small burger bun. Best of all, modern sliders aren't greasy.
> http://www.womansday.com/food-recipe...-burgers-82210
> http://foodnessgracious.com/2013/06/...lsamic-relish/
>
> --
> A kitchen without a cook is just a room

Wait - what? I'm confused by "small burger" can be "thick quarter pounder".
Are you suggesting that the sliders served in your area are actually a
each a quarter pound of meat?

On 2/10/2015 9:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
>

AFAIK, "sliders" was a nickname for White Castle hamburgers. It was
popular with people from Chicago. It has something to do with how easy
they are to eat and how they exit the body after digestion. I first
heard the term from clients of mine from Chicago and they gave me the
interpretation.

In recent years it has become a term for mini hamburgers or other
small-sized dishes on a bun. I can't help but think of the original
definition, especially the "exit" part of it.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 1:54:53 PM UTC-8, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 9:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
> >
>
> AFAIK, "sliders" was a nickname for White Castle hamburgers. It was
> popular with people from Chicago. It has something to do with how easy
> they are to eat and how they exit the body after digestion. I first
> heard the term from clients of mine from Chicago and they gave me the
> interpretation.
>

The White Castles and their brethren* were pioneering. First, with their
glossy white tiles and endless stainless steel, they were meant to suggest
absolute purity of sanitation. No more the danger of food poisoning from
a "greasy spoon." The burgers are not only thin, to speed up cooking, but
there are holes in them, to allow steam to escape. (A White Castle is
essentially steamed, rather than fried.) The packaging is likewise hygienic.

(*My in-laws recall going to White Tower years ago, in Detroit.)

On 2015-02-11, Janet Wilder > wrote:

> AFAIK.....

Lordy! Doesn't anyone in the newsgroup use wikipedia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slider_(sandwich)

nb

On 2/11/2015 4:26 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-02-11, Janet Wilder > wrote:
>
>> AFAIK.....
>
> Lordy! Doesn't anyone in the newsgroup use wikipedia?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slider_(sandwich)
>

Hardees used to call theirs Slammers.

McD's burgers are now so small, if they sized the bun appropriately
they'd meet the definition of sliders.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:29:06 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 11:28:49 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
>
>
> > In modern times, the term slider is a euphemism for small burger (
> > figure it's a thick quarter pounder) or something that's served in a
> > small burger bun. Best of all, modern sliders aren't greasy.
> > http://www.womansday.com/food-recipe...-burgers-82210
> > http://foodnessgracious.com/2013/06/...lsamic-relish/
>
> Some of those womans day recipes look really good. Some of my fave recipes came from their pages. Thanks.
>
YW! I made lamb sliders (not the recipe above) a couple of weeks ago
and they were delicious. The white stuff you see is tzatziki.
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=...c#.VNvfTS6zmnA

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:24:05 -0800 (PST), Michelle
> wrote:

> Wait - what? I'm confused by "small burger" can be "thick quarter pounder".
> Are you suggesting that the sliders served in your area are actually a
> each a quarter pound of meat?

I don't order sliders, I make them and I've weighed them. They are a
quarter pound and they fit the slider bun perfectly. I posted a
picture to Kalmia in this thread if you want to see for yourself.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:54:48 -0600, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> On 2/10/2015 9:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
> >
>
> AFAIK, "sliders" was a nickname for White Castle hamburgers. It was
> popular with people from Chicago. It has something to do with how easy
> they are to eat and how they exit the body after digestion. I first
> heard the term from clients of mine from Chicago and they gave me the
> interpretation.
>
> In recent years it has become a term for mini hamburgers or other
> small-sized dishes on a bun. I can't help but think of the original
> definition, especially the "exit" part of it.

Those of us who have never eaten a White Castle burger will choose to
use the new definition of "slider".

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:30:05 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 2/10/2015 10:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> >> Is this just a new name for an old food idea?
> >
> > I thought it started with White Castles little burgers,
> > they slid right down.
> >
> > That's the gist of the explanation I got, and at the
> > time I never heard of anyone else selling sliders. Not
> > even White Castle called them that, it was a nickname.
> >
> > nancy
>
> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?

They rejected the name for years, but then began to embrace it. When
I was a kid, no one ordered "hamburgers" there. If you wanted one, you
ordered a "White Castle." A cheeseburger was called "cheeseburger," and
a fish sandwich was a "fish."

Example:
"Six White castles, extra pickle, three cheeseburgers, two fish, three
fries and three larges oranges for here."

"Oranges" were non-carbonated orange drinks. They don't have oranges
anymore, and over 20 years ago, they changed their fries from regular
thick cut to crinkle cut, reportedly because the crinkle cut ones reduced
oil spatter injuries to employees. The crinkle cut ones are not very good.
The old ones weren't great, but they were better.

--Bryan