jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 11/29/2014 1:59 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:30:41 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > >
> > > > I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night.
> > >
> > > You said you were having a brined and stuffed pork roast for
> > > Thanksgiving.
> > >
> > > Gee, yet another lie from Paul.
> > >
> >>> Safe to eat?
> > >
> > > Definitely eat the ham.
> > >
> > > -sw
> >
> > So he changed his mind.
> >
> He changed his mind but then orgot and left the ham sitting out for
> hours. Carol, are you always the champion for people who don't have
> many clues?
>
> Jill

Jill, either get a life or learn to quote something I said if you want
a reply. The only think I see is to make a crockpot of the ham.

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On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for about
> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is twice
> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
> left. Safe to eat?
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> http://www.avast.com

So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I bought a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband left the fridge door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and I want to know what to do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep it and eat it cold? Or chuck it? Thanks

On 12/6/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for about
>> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is twice
>> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
>> left. Safe to eat?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> http://www.avast.com
>
> So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I bought a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband left the fridge door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and I want to know what to do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep it and eat it cold? Or chuck it? Thanks
>

Paul has not been heard from for a couple of years bt we don't know if
the ham killed him or not.

The fridge was probably still cool. The ham is also cured so it is not
going to spoil like raw meat. I'd cook and eat it like nothing happened.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 12/6/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for
>> about
>> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is
>> twice
>> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
>> left. Safe to eat?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> http://www.avast.com
>
> So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I
> bought a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband left
> the fridge door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and I want to
> know what to do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep it
> and eat it cold? Or chuck it? Thanks
>

Paul has not been heard from for a couple of years bt we don't know if
the ham killed him or not.

The fridge was probably still cool. The ham is also cured so it is not
going to spoil like raw meat. I'd cook and eat it like nothing happened.
===

Even if it is 3 years old????

Spot the date)



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On 12/6/2017 10:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 12/6/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night.Â* It was on the counter for
>>> about
>>> 10 hours.Â* It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is
>>> twice
>>> cooked.Â* I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
>>> left.Â* Safe to eat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> http://www.avast.com
>>
>> So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I
>> bought a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband
>> left the fridge door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and
>> I want to know what to do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas
>> day? Keep it and eat it cold? Or chuck it? Thanks
>>
>
> Paul has not been heard from for a couple of years bt we don't know if
> the ham killed him or not.
>
> The fridge was probably still cool.Â* The ham is also cured so it is not
> going to spoil like raw meat.Â* I'd cook and eat it like nothing happened.
> ===
>
> Even if it is 3 years old????
>
> Spot the date)
>
>
>
Yes, spot the date of the post the gmail user is replying to. The ham
isn't 3 years old but the post reply is.

Jill

> wrote in message
...
On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for
> about
> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is
> twice
> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
> left. Safe to eat?
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> http://www.avast.com

So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I bought
a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband left the fridge
door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and I want to know what to
do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep it and eat it cold?
Or chuck it? Thanks

---

I think Paul died from eating it. Haven't seen any posts from him in awhile.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/6/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for
>>> about
>>> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is
>>> twice
>>> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
>>> left. Safe to eat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> http://www.avast.com
>>
>> So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I
>> bought a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband left
>> the fridge door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and I want
>> to know what to do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep
>> it and eat it cold? Or chuck it? Thanks
>>
>
> Paul has not been heard from for a couple of years bt we don't know if the
> ham killed him or not.
>
> The fridge was probably still cool. The ham is also cured so it is not
> going to spoil like raw meat. I'd cook and eat it like nothing happened.

I am voting that it killed him. It's a good story line and I'm sticking with
it.

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 10:36:21 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/6/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 4:30:48 AM UTC+13, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> >> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for about
> >> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is twice
> >> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
> >> left. Safe to eat?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> >> http://www.avast.com
> >
> > So, what happened? Did you eat it? And were you OK? Asking because I bought a $100 ham yesterday and put it in the fridge but my husband left the fridge door open - it has been 25 degrees C here today - and I want to know what to do with the ham. Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep it and eat it cold? Or chuck it? Thanks
> >
>
> Paul has not been heard from for a couple of years bt we don't know if
> the ham killed him or not.
>
> The fridge was probably still cool. The ham is also cured so it is not
> going to spoil like raw meat. I'd cook and eat it like nothing happened.

:-) Wise Words, Ed! Wise Words!! :-)

Namaste!

John Kuthe...

On Saturday, November 29, 2014 at 10:30:48 AM UTC-5, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> I left my Thanksgiving ham out last night. It was on the counter for about
> 10 hours. It was a fully cooked ham, then roasted per usual so it is twice
> cooked. I hate to toss it because it was a quality ham and I have a lot
> left. Safe to eat?
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> http://www.avast.com

yea but you might die.

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:01:13 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

> Keep it and roast it on Xmas day? Keep it and eat it cold?

Either would be safe. Ham is already cured with salt & sugar; both prevent
bacterial growth. If you are not sure, roast it again as you suggested.
That way, even if there was a small amount of bacterial growth while it
warmed-up the one time the fridge was open, roasting will kill that off.

Note: If you ever have meat that has obviously become spoiled
(discolouration, fetid odour, liquidized putrefication), complete cooking
will kill all bacteria BUT DOES NOT make it safe. In such a case, anerobic
bacteria will have created dangerous toxins that cannot be neutralized by
any amount of cooking. This is not the case with a ham warmed-up for a day.

jmcquown wrote:

>>
> Yes, spot the date of the post the gmail user is replying to. The ham
> isn't 3 years old but the post reply is.
>
> Jill


Or server date is wrong.

Sincerely,

A. H. Carter

On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 8:54:28 PM UTC-6, A. H. Carter wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>
> > Yes, spot the date of the post the gmail user is replying to. The ham
> > isn't 3 years old but the post reply is.
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> Or server date is wrong.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> A. H. Carter
>
>
Nope, server date is indeed correct.

wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 8:54:28 PM UTC-6, A. H. Carter wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, spot the date of the post the gmail user is replying to. The ham
>>> isn't 3 years old but the post reply is.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Or server date is wrong.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> A. H. Carter
>>
>>
> Nope, server date is indeed correct.


Anyway, the safety of the ham would probably be okay, how much salt was
used in the curing?

I've eaten pizza that I left out overnight.

Years ago, Nat. Geo. had an article about China and some beds consisting
of sides of salted ham. Darned if I can find it.

Sincerely,

A. H. Carter