If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
failure?

TIA

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On 30 Sep 2014 13:59:38 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>
> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
> failure?
>
Sorry, I don't have one. Are you thinking about using it for the
convect setting? If you have an instant read thermometer, you can
cross check with that. It would probably best to do it that way
anyway, then you'll know how far off the sensor is (if it is) and you
can adjust your time or temperature to compensate.



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sf > wrote in
:

> On 30 Sep 2014 13:59:38 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
>>
>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried
>> the convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful
>> but I am reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive
>> food. Success or failure?
>>
> Sorry, I don't have one. Are you thinking about using it for the
> convect setting? If you have an instant read thermometer, you can
> cross check with that. It would probably best to do it that way
> anyway, then you'll know how far off the sensor is (if it is) and you
> can adjust your time or temperature to compensate.
>
>
>

I'm not sure we are on the same wavelength.

This is a feature of the convection oven utilization. You put something
in the oven and it figures out how long to cook it and at what
temperature. Works for several different meals - casserole, frozen vegs,
fresh vegs, frozen pizza, fish/seafood, etc. Sounds quite clever.
Wondering if it really works.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:59:38 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
>
> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
>
> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
>
> failure?
>

My advice is that you should damn the torpedoes and boldly go where no man has gone before. Columbus didn't ask for advice on how to find a new spice route. Well, maybe he did but, well... you know.

>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> --
>
> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
>
> when something closes the door from the inside.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:59:38 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
>>
>> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
>>
>> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
>>
>> failure?
>>
>
> My advice is that you should damn the torpedoes and boldly go where no man
> has gone before. Columbus didn't ask for advice on how to find a new spice
> route. Well, maybe he did but, well... you know.

Otherwise known as 'suck it and see' )

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On 9/30/2014 9:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:59:38 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
>>>
>>> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but
>>> I am
>>>
>>> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
>>>
>>> failure?
>>>
>>
>> My advice is that you should damn the torpedoes and boldly go where no
>> man
>> has gone before. Columbus didn't ask for advice on how to find a new
>> spice
>> route. Well, maybe he did but, well... you know.
>
> Otherwise known as 'suck it and see' )
>

This would be correct but I had some extra words laying around that
needed to be used up before they expired. So that's how that went... It
ain't easy coming up with a paragraph that contain the words "torpedoes"
and "Columbus."


HE > i > u

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/30/2014 9:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:59:38 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
>>>>
>>>> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but
>>>> I am
>>>>
>>>> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> failure?
>>>>
>>>
>>> My advice is that you should damn the torpedoes and boldly go where no
>>> man
>>> has gone before. Columbus didn't ask for advice on how to find a new
>>> spice
>>> route. Well, maybe he did but, well... you know.
>>
>> Otherwise known as 'suck it and see' )
>>
>
> This would be correct but I had some extra words laying around that needed
> to be used up before they expired. So that's how that went... It ain't
> easy coming up with a paragraph that contain the words "torpedoes" and
> "Columbus."

Hmmm good point old chap!

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On 30 Sep 2014 13:59:38 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>
>If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
>convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
>reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
>failure?
>
>TIA

Um, test it out with inexpensive food! duh
Bake a box cake.
Mac n' cheese caserole.
Roast a $3 chicken.
If really ascared to spend bake one spud.
There's definitely something wrong with you... there are plenty of
inexpensive dishes for running tests... me, I'd do a baked ziti.

On 9/30/2014 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm good point old chap!
>

Ha ha, are you sure you're from Scotland?

On 30 Sep 2014 18:11:28 GMT, KenK > wrote:

> sf > wrote in
> :
>
> > On 30 Sep 2014 13:59:38 GMT, KenK > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried
> >> the convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful
> >> but I am reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive
> >> food. Success or failure?
> >>
> > Sorry, I don't have one. Are you thinking about using it for the
> > convect setting? If you have an instant read thermometer, you can
> > cross check with that. It would probably best to do it that way
> > anyway, then you'll know how far off the sensor is (if it is) and you
> > can adjust your time or temperature to compensate.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I'm not sure we are on the same wavelength.
>
> This is a feature of the convection oven utilization. You put something
> in the oven and it figures out how long to cook it and at what
> temperature. Works for several different meals - casserole, frozen vegs,
> fresh vegs, frozen pizza, fish/seafood, etc. Sounds quite clever.
> Wondering if it really works.

The way to check if it really works is with a thermometer of your own.


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Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:08:01 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 9/30/2014 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hmmm good point old chap!
> >
>
> Ha ha, are you sure you're from Scotland?

She's from Yorkshire, currently living in Scotland.


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KenK > wrote:
> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
> failure?
>
> TIA


I have an elite. As far as I know only microwave have humidity sensor. I
might read the manual when I get a chance.

I used to have a norelco microwave from the 70s, had a sensor probe to
stick in food. There was a jack for the probe inside.

Greg

KenK > wrote:
> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
> failure?
>
> TIA


Must be a lot of elite owners with all the posts.

Greg

Sqwertz > wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2014 13:59:38 GMT, KenK wrote:
>
>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried the
>> convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful but I am
>> reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive food. Success or
>> failure?
>
> I have used Sears Kenmore microwaves exclusively all my life. The
> first two were convection microwaves and lasted my family and I almost
> 40 years. I've only ever used them as convection ovens maybe 4 times
> in those 40 years.
>
> The whole idea of a Microwave+Convection oven is bogus. The
> convection ovens are never actually rated for 300F+ oven temperatures
> (take the inside temperature!). And combining the two cooking methods
> totally bites. It's like microwaved sous vide. It doesn't work worth
> a shit, culinarly-speaking.
>
> Kenmore makes the best, most even heating microwaves on the market
> (along with high-end Panasonic), but the convection features only add
> to it's durability.
>
> Microwaves are for heating. Ovens are for roasting. Enjoy your
> Kenmore Elite as a microwave only, IMO. I'm heating up menudo in mine
> right now...
>
> -sw

I have yet found use for it's convection feature. If I needed two ovens, I
might use it.

Greg

On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 00:17:15 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> I'm heating up menudo in mine
> right now...
>
> -sw



> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:11:28 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
>
> This is a feature of the convection oven utilization. You put something
> in the oven and it figures out how long to cook it and at what
> temperature. Works for several different meals - casserole, frozen vegs,
> fresh vegs, frozen pizza, fish/seafood, etc. Sounds quite clever.
> Wondering if it really works.
>
I don't see how it can work adequately. It does not know the initial temperature of
the meat to you are roasting or its shape or the type of pan it is in.

What should work, although I've never used it, is a built in probe. This is a meat
thermometer that plugs into the oven and sends an alarm when the desired temperature
is reached.

http://www.richardfisher.com

gregz > wrote in

rg:

> KenK > wrote:
>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried
>> the convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful
>> but I am reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive
>> food. Success or failure?
>>
>> TIA
>
>
> I have an elite. As far as I know only microwave have humidity sensor.
> I might read the manual when I get a chance.
>
> I used to have a norelco microwave from the 70s, had a sensor probe to
> stick in food. There was a jack for the probe inside.
>
> Greg
>

My previous Kenmore had a probe too. Never tried it.


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You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

gregz > wrote in

rg:

> KenK > wrote:
>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried
>> the convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful
>> but I am reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive
>> food. Success or failure?
>>
>> TIA
>
>
> Must be a lot of elite owners with all the posts.
>
> Greg
>


But oddly it seems none have tried the sensor feature either. Guess I'm
not alone.

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when something closes the door from the inside.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/30/2014 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hmmm good point old chap!
>>
>
> Ha ha, are you sure you're from Scotland?

Well, I have lived and worked in Scotland for decades, but I am a Yorkshire
lass, born and bred ... so make of that what you will :-)

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On 10/1/2014 1:17 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> The whole idea of a Microwave+Convection oven is bogus. The
> convection ovens are never actually rated for 300F+ oven temperatures
> (take the inside temperature!). And combining the two cooking methods
> totally bites. It's like microwaved sous vide. It doesn't work worth
> a shit, culinarly-speaking.

We use ours at 350 to 400 with no problem. Rarely have we used the
combo though. Makes a good second oven when needed.

>
> Kenmore makes the best, most even heating microwaves on the market
> (along with high-end Panasonic), but the convection features only add
> to it's durability.
>

Kenmore buys the best from someone. Could even be Panasonic as they
make them under many brand names.


> Microwaves are for heating. Ovens are for roasting. Enjoy your
> Kenmore Elite as a microwave only, IMO. I'm heating up menudo in mine
> right now...

I'm baking muffins in mine.

On 10/1/2014 1:45 PM, KenK wrote:

>> KenK > wrote:
>>> If you have a Kenmore Elite MW/convection oven have you ever tried
>>> the convection oven's sensor feature? Sounds like it might be useful
>>> but I am reluctant to try it for fear of spoiling some expensive
>>> food. Success or failure?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>>
>> Must be a lot of elite owners with all the posts.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>
>
> But oddly it seems none have tried the sensor feature either. Guess I'm
> not alone.
>

I've used the sensor a couple of times for frozen veggies and reheating.
Works, but I also know that is need X minutes from experience. Faster
that reading the menu for what I'm cooking.

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:17:04 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:08:01 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 9/30/2014 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hmmm good point old chap!
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > Ha ha, are you sure you're from Scotland?
>
>
>
> She's from Yorkshire, currently living in Scotland.
>
>

Oh, I see. Well then, pip pip cherrio! :-)

>
>
>
> --
>
> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 8:47:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 9/30/2014 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Hmmm good point old chap!
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> > Ha ha, are you sure you're from Scotland?
>
>
>
> Well, I have lived and worked in Scotland for decades, but I am a Yorkshire
>
> lass, born and bred ... so make of that what you will :-)
>

My guess is that it makes you happy, contented, etc.

>
>
> --
>
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 8:47:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 9/30/2014 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Hmmm good point old chap!
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Ha ha, are you sure you're from Scotland?
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I have lived and worked in Scotland for decades, but I am a
>> Yorkshire
>>
>> lass, born and bred ... so make of that what you will :-)
>>
>
> My guess is that it makes you happy, contented, etc.

Your guess is correct and I am indeed happy and contented, etc We
spend a fair amount of time in North Yorkshire now - in fact I am posting
from that place at this moment <g>

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On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:15:24 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Most Elites are not convection, nor have the sensor features.
>
> -sw


> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw