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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:21:05 -0400, Dave Smith
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> I don't remember either of them recounted stories about their children
> or spouses that left the rest of us with the impression that they were
> total losers.


True.


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On 10/2/2014 6:58 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:23:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Well, I don't often see anyone mentioning children who are currently at
>> home.

>
> Tara has kids at home, I think Tert does too. There are probably
> others.
>
>

At home, not at home. What does it matter? The fact is most people
don't drag their children into every single post.

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Julie Bove wrote:
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
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>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I have a feeling that I will be the odd one out here but, do you
>>> ever have to change the way you are cooking things? I do simply
>>> because of our varying schedules. There were years when I needed
>>> to have a quick meal so we often ate things like pasta, or I would
>>> do a lot of the prep work ahead of time, like cutting up veggies. I
>>> could also rely on some frozen foods like potato products and
>>> fish sticks although we really don't eat those things often.
>>>
>>> But then things changed and we needed an instant meal because we
>>> were dragging ourselves home late. Sometimes during that time
>>> period, we ate out because it was just quicker to get the food in
>>> us than to drive all the way home. I used the Crock-Pots a lot
>>> during that time and we ate a lot of soups and stews.
>>>
>>> But now? We are all on totally different schedules. I have no
>>> problem ever getting my own meals. As I'm sure you all know, I am
>>> happy to eat a bean taco or burrito or even just a plate of assorted
>>> veggies. I can throw those things together in a hurry. But husband
>>> and daughter are coming and going at all hours of the day so trying
>>> to plan a hot meal that will be ready when they need to eat is often
>>> impossible. Once in a while I can actually time it right.
>>>
>>> So... Now I am looking for recipes so that I can make things that
>>> reheat well. That way I can cook things ahead of time and they can
>>> just nuke stuff if I am not here.
>>>
>>> But it is presenting a problem in using up some of the stuff that I
>>> used to make. Like frozen potatoes and fish sticks. I have some to
>>> use up but I need to find a day when at least one of them will be
>>> here for me to fix them fresh. Well, obviously not exactly fresh as
>>> they are frozen foods. But stuff like that does not reheat well.
>>>
>>> Anyway... Do you find that you have to keep changing your game plan
>>> when it comes to meals?

>>
>> We rarely eat together and we eat lots of leftovers because it's
>> faster to warm up something that's already been cooked than it is to
>> cook it the first time. I work, albeit at home, through what is
>> most people's normal dinner time because I give private music
>> lessons for a living. My typical day goes from 3:30 to 9:00 PM with
>> a break most of the time when I don't have a student or my wife is
>> teaching a lesson. E.g, if you steam vegetables like broccoli and
>> cauliflower (hope I
>> spelled them both correctly but I suspect not) and make a cheese
>> sauce for them, as long as you keep them separate and store them
>> that way, they store fine for a few days in the refrigerator and you
>> can warm them up separately, then combine and eat and, at least in
>> my opinion, they taste fine. Likewise, we find the hamburgers,
>> sausages, even the lowly hot dog
>> all store fine in the refrigerator and reheat well enough. We'll
>> cook up ground beef and save it that way, to be combined optionally
>> with tomato sauce and turned into a Sloppy Joe.
>>
>> Typically, we reheat in the microwave and add a bit of water and/or
>> oil and/or seasoning when reheating.
>>
>> I don't think food that started out in life as prepared and frozen
>> reheats as well - it wasn't as good to start with so it will be that
>> much less good as a leftover. I think we get by with leftovers a
>> lot because we start with as much that's fresh and homemade as we
>> can. We'll grill vegetables and then save them - they are also still
>> good tasting a few days later. Likewise, when we make carmelized
>> onions, we make much more than we need and store the rest.
>>
>> If I was starting with leftover frozen food, like fishsticks, I'd
>> reheat by sauteeing them in oil with garlic - would give them more
>> flavor than simply reheating them in the microwave. I've done this
>> one, actually. Likewise, sometimes, if we have leftover sausage, we
>> turn it into a stir-fry by cutting it up and sauteeing it in oil and
>> seasonings - more surface area to get browne, and we have a rice
>> cooker which is almost as easy as reheating leftovers, so we'll make
>> some rice, or use leftover rice if we have it, and toss the into the
>> skillet, seasonng with some sort of salty, soy sauce or similar plus
>> rice wine vinegar, salt and pepper. Comes out great and everyone
>> here likes it. It's sort of reheating and sort of a new dish based
>> on leftovers. We use these glass containers we buy at the grocery
>> store with
>> plastic lids that snap into place. They seem to do a good job at
>> keeping food fresh, much better than old-fastioned tupperware or
>> similar, they're reusable, and both the container and the lid can go
>> in the dishwasher. -S-

>
> I am hoping to be able to do the fishsticks tonight although at
> present nobody is home but me and not sure when they will be. Need
> to use up the coleslaw.


Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
ear, but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
fishsticks if you are willing to try a few things.

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:50:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
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> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
> ear, but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
> fishsticks if you are willing to try a few things.


Gotta say that reheating a slice of pizza in the cast iron pan was
somebody's stroke of genius. No reason why that technique wouldn't
work for other things too.


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> On 10/2/2014 6:58 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:23:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I don't often see anyone mentioning children who are currently at
>>> home.

>>
>> Tara has kids at home, I think Tert does too. There are probably
>> others.
>>
>>

> At home, not at home. What does it matter? The fact is most people don't
> drag their children into every single post.


And neither do I!



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> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear,
> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over fishsticks
> if you are willing to try a few things.


Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.

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> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:50:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
>> ear, but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
>> fishsticks if you are willing to try a few things.

>
> Gotta say that reheating a slice of pizza in the cast iron pan was
> somebody's stroke of genius. No reason why that technique wouldn't
> work for other things too.


Maybe but I don't use cast iron.

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
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>
>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear,
>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over fishsticks
>> if you are willing to try a few things.

>
>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.


Who cares, let the spoiled brat eat cold shit.
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:25:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
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>> On 10/1/2014 5:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Julie, stop and think. Those frozen foods you need to be used up, can
>>>> all be prepared according
>>>> to directions, refrigerated, and then zapped to reheat whenever your
>>>> family wants to eat. I guess that
>>>> thIs is a concept that is difficult for you.
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried to microwave French Fries? Tater Tots? Thought
>>> not. While I suppose you can do it, nobody will want to eat the end
>>> results.

>>
>> Have you ever tried to reheat using the oven? or stovetop? or toaster
>> oven? You *don't* have to use the microwave to reheat stuff. What on
>> earth did we all do before microwaves?

>
>I grew up with reheated in the oven food. Dries it out and it's no good.
>No way would I reheat frozen fishsticks once in the oven and then reheat
>them a second time.


Fishsticks suck no matter how served... should be ashamed to mention
fishsticks.
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 10/2/2014 3:22 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2014 5:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever tried to microwave French Fries? Tater Tots? Thought
>>>> not. While I suppose you can do it, nobody will want to eat the end
>>>> results.
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried to reheat using the oven? or stovetop? or toaster
>>> oven? You *don't* have to use the microwave to reheat stuff. What on
>>> earth did we all do before microwaves?
>>>

>> Indeed! And it's been said before, her daughter is old enough to prepare
>> her own meals. It's time for her to move beyond the scrambled egg. I
>> don't care if she doesn't like to cook. If she wants to eat, she'll
>> figure something out.

>
>You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make her
>make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two jobs. If
>she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.


Just wait'll your daughter gets knocked up by some no account loser,
then you'll cease bringing her into the conversations.


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On 10/2/2014 10:15 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear,
>>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over fishsticks
>>> if you are willing to try a few things.

>>
>> Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.

>
> Who cares, let the spoiled brat eat cold shit.
>

Neither one of them (husband or daughter) can be bothered figuring out
how to cook, much less reheat food.

Jill
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On 10/2/2014 9:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/2/2014 6:58 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:23:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I don't often see anyone mentioning children who are currently at
>>>> home.
>>>
>>> Tara has kids at home, I think Tert does too. There are probably
>>> others.
>>>
>>>

>> At home, not at home. What does it matter? The fact is most people
>> don't drag their children into every single post.

>
> And neither do I!

! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ! <<---------------------

What a bunch of crock!! This is just another fine example how the
bovine lies and exaggerates.

"It" uses _nearly every thread_ to mention its pitiable spouse and their
even more pitiable issue. There are just too many samples to cite in
RFC and other poor newsgroups subjected to its idiotic presence and
fabricated scenarios!

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 10/2/2014 6:58 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:23:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I don't often see anyone mentioning children who are currently at
>>>> home.
>>>
>>> Tara has kids at home, I think Tert does too. There are probably
>>> others.
>>>
>>>

>> At home, not at home. What does it matter? The fact is most people don't
>> drag their children into every single post.

>
>And neither do I!


Is this some sort of test?
If you can lie about that then you'd lie about anything.
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
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>
>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear,
>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over fishsticks
>> if you are willing to try a few things.

>
>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.


If he had any sense at all, he'll probably get takeaway and tell you
he worked back late.
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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:25:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
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>>> On 10/1/2014 5:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, stop and think. Those frozen foods you need to be used up, can
>>>>> all be prepared according
>>>>> to directions, refrigerated, and then zapped to reheat whenever your
>>>>> family wants to eat. I guess that
>>>>> thIs is a concept that is difficult for you.
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever tried to microwave French Fries? Tater Tots? Thought
>>>> not. While I suppose you can do it, nobody will want to eat the end
>>>> results.
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried to reheat using the oven? or stovetop? or toaster
>>> oven? You *don't* have to use the microwave to reheat stuff. What on
>>> earth did we all do before microwaves?

>>
>>I grew up with reheated in the oven food. Dries it out and it's no good.
>>No way would I reheat frozen fishsticks once in the oven and then reheat
>>them a second time.

>
> Fishsticks suck no matter how served... should be ashamed to mention
> fishsticks.


I rarely buy them. And there will be no more for a year or three.



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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
>>> ear,
>>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
>>> fishsticks
>>> if you are willing to try a few things.

>>
>>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.

>
> Who cares, let the spoiled brat eat cold shit.


Apparently he already ate. So... I'm just going to toss it all in the
fridge and if he wants to eat tomorrow, he can have that or the man pleasing
chicken. He can get them himself. Heated or not, I don't care.

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:51:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>>>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
>>>> ear,
>>>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
>>>> fishsticks
>>>> if you are willing to try a few things.
>>>
>>>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.

>>
>> Who cares, let the spoiled brat eat cold shit.

>
>Apparently he already ate. So... I'm just going to toss it all in the
>fridge and if he wants to eat tomorrow, he can have that or the man pleasing
>chicken. He can get them himself. Heated or not, I don't care.


Of course you don't care, what else can you say when your husband is
out with some ho.
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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:51:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>>>>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
>>>>> ear,
>>>>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
>>>>> fishsticks
>>>>> if you are willing to try a few things.
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.
>>>
>>> Who cares, let the spoiled brat eat cold shit.

>>
>>Apparently he already ate. So... I'm just going to toss it all in the
>>fridge and if he wants to eat tomorrow, he can have that or the man
>>pleasing
>>chicken. He can get them himself. Heated or not, I don't care.

>
> Of course you don't care, what else can you say when your husband is
> out with some ho.


Ah, he was out with you then? And I don't have to worry about the fish
sticks. They are all gone. He said the cats did it.

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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:13:16 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2014-10-02 5:09 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>>> Come on guys. I am trying to hard, and all this ammunition keeps coming
>>> this way.

>>
>> How about you and I open a controversial thread since we are being so
>> good? I'll go first if you like

>
>
>A couple months ago I tried some Lindt chili chocolate. I had had a hot
>chocolate drink laced with cayenne a few years ago and was impressed.
>This chili chocolate bar was pretty good. A couple days ago I was in a
>Home Sense store and saw Lindt Wasabi chocolate bars on sale, about half
>price. . The clerk said she had tried it and liked it. I can see why
>they were on sale. I don't imagine they will be restocking them, and I
>won't be buying any in the future.


I like the chili chocolate as long as it is good chocolate. I've
never tried wasabi chocolate but it doesn't sound right. I'm sure
there will be many different chocolate flavors to try in the next few
months. It seems they show up around the holiday season. I have to
stay away from those flat chocolates that are filled with caramel. .
..I can't stop. What I really don't care for is salted caramel. I
just don't see it.
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:29:14 -0500, Sky >
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>On 10/2/2014 9:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 10/2/2014 6:58 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:23:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I don't often see anyone mentioning children who are currently at
>>>>> home.
>>>>
>>>> Tara has kids at home, I think Tert does too. There are probably
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> At home, not at home. What does it matter? The fact is most people
>>> don't drag their children into every single post.

>>
>> And neither do I!

>! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ! <<---------------------
>
>What a bunch of crock!! This is just another fine example how the
>bovine lies and exaggerates.
>
>"It" uses _nearly every thread_ to mention its pitiable spouse and their
>even more pitiable issue. There are just too many samples to cite in
>RFC and other poor newsgroups subjected to its idiotic presence and
>fabricated scenarios!


Only a few hours later and we have the 'I'm making a hope chest!'
post, which is all about... guess what?


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>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>>>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's
>>>> ear,
>>>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over
>>>> fishsticks
>>>> if you are willing to try a few things.
>>>
>>>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.

>>
>> Who cares, let the spoiled brat eat cold shit.

>
>Apparently he already ate. So... I'm just going to toss it all in the
>fridge and if he wants to eat tomorrow, he can have that or the man pleasing
>chicken. He can get them himself. Heated or not, I don't care.


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On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 12:41:20 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 19:07:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> Well, if you do, try reheating them in a frying pan with olive oil and
>>> some seasoning. They say you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear,
>>> but I do think you can do a lot with leftovers, even left over fishsticks
>>> if you are willing to try a few things.

>>
>>Hopefully husband will be home soon as the food is hot now.

>
>If he had any sense at all, he'll probably get takeaway and tell you
>he worked back late.

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On 10/3/2014 4:04 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:29:14 -0500, Sky >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2014 9:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 10/2/2014 6:58 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:23:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I don't often see anyone mentioning children who are currently at
>>>>>> home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tara has kids at home, I think Tert does too. There are probably
>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> At home, not at home. What does it matter? The fact is most people
>>>> don't drag their children into every single post.
>>>
>>> And neither do I!

>> ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ! <<---------------------
>>
>> What a bunch of crock!! This is just another fine example how the
>> bovine lies and exaggerates.
>>
>> "It" uses _nearly every thread_ to mention its pitiable spouse and their
>> even more pitiable issue. There are just too many samples to cite in
>> RFC and other poor newsgroups subjected to its idiotic presence and
>> fabricated scenarios!

>
> Only a few hours later and we have the 'I'm making a hope chest!'
> post, which is all about... guess what?
>


Yeah - sad thing is, its issue is hopeless to get anything worthwhile
from its maternal parent! So sad . . . poor thing!

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On 10/2/2014 10:22 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 15:26:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 10/2/2014 3:22 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2014 5:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever tried to microwave French Fries? Tater Tots? Thought
>>>>> not. While I suppose you can do it, nobody will want to eat the end
>>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever tried to reheat using the oven? or stovetop? or toaster
>>>> oven? You *don't* have to use the microwave to reheat stuff. What on
>>>> earth did we all do before microwaves?
>>>>
>>> Indeed! And it's been said before, her daughter is old enough to prepare
>>> her own meals. It's time for her to move beyond the scrambled egg. I
>>> don't care if she doesn't like to cook. If she wants to eat, she'll
>>> figure something out.

>>
>> You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make her
>> make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two jobs. If
>> she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.

>

The fact that I don't have kids doesn't have a thing to do with it. I
was able to cook for myself by the time I was 16. I could certainly do
more than scramble eggs or turn on the oven and heat up some frozen
french fries. Microwaves at that time weren't good for much more than
boiling water.

When my grandfather died my mom was out of town for a week. I was about
the same age as her daughter, nearly 16. I came home from school and
cooked dinner for my dad, my brother and myself. I managed to do my
homework, too. That was back in the day when no one had computers. All
the assignments were from *books* <gasp> and the homework was hand written.

> Just wait'll your daughter gets knocked up by some no account loser,
> then you'll cease bringing her into the conversations.
>

Oh pulleeeeze, Sheldon! That would just be more grist for the mill.

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> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 07:51:17 -0400, jmcquown >
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>>>> You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make
>>>> her
>>>> make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two
>>>> jobs. If
>>>> she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.
>>>

>>The fact that I don't have kids doesn't have a thing to do with it.

>
> It does in fact have much to do with it - anybody who has not had kids
> doesn't have a clue what it is like to have them, raise them, watch
> them. I say that from a vantage point, mother of three, grandmother
> of five, greatgrandmother of four.


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>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 07:51:17 -0400, jmcquown >
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>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make
>>>>> her
>>>>> make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two
>>>>> jobs. If
>>>>> she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.
>>>>
>>>The fact that I don't have kids doesn't have a thing to do with it.

>>
>> It does in fact have much to do with it - anybody who has not had kids
>> doesn't have a clue what it is like to have them, raise them, watch
>> them. I say that from a vantage point, mother of three, grandmother
>> of five, greatgrandmother of four.

>
> +1


+2, experts on child rearing they are not but it doesn't stop them from
knowing it all, just ask them. :-)

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> I say that from a vantage point, mother of three, grandmother of five, greatgrandmother of four.


Grandfather of 1 and still younger than the 55 year old pan JB threw out.
I would say being older than that pan make JB old, not young as claimed.
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"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 10/2/2014 3:22 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2014 5:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever tried to microwave French Fries? Tater Tots? Thought
>>>> not. While I suppose you can do it, nobody will want to eat the end
>>>> results.
>>>
>>> Have you ever tried to reheat using the oven? or stovetop? or toaster
>>> oven? You *don't* have to use the microwave to reheat stuff. What on
>>> earth did we all do before microwaves?
>>>

>> Indeed! And it's been said before, her daughter is old enough to
>> prepare > her own meals. It's time for her to move beyond the scrambled
>> egg. I > don't care if she doesn't like to cook. If she wants to eat,
>> she'll > figure something out.

>
> You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make her
> make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two jobs.
> If she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.


It's not ridiculous at all. Do you still wipe her butt too? Perhaps it's
time for Angela to scale back on all that "dancing" she does.
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:04:07 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 07:51:17 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make her
>> >>> make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two jobs. If
>> >>> she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.
>> >>
>> >The fact that I don't have kids doesn't have a thing to do with it.

>>
>> It does in fact have much to do with it - anybody who has not had kids
>> doesn't have a clue what it is like to have them, raise them, watch
>> them.

>
> Pure crap. I can think of numerous childless people whose lives were
>devoted to the expert and loving raising, watching and responsibility
>for other peoples children; as extended family, paid houseparents,
>foster parents, teachers.
>
> Very often those childless people were far better at every aspect of
>raising kids, than the childrens' feckless, reckless and selfish natural
>parents.
>
> Janet UK


How about the flip side? Parents who have their children taken away
because the children get no food and the inside of the home is covered
in animal feces and urine puddles plus drugs and guns. Kids taken
away because of child abuse, either physical or sexual? Expelling a
creature from your body doesn't make you any more knowledgeable after
the event than you were before. Personally, I think mother and
daughter sleeping in the same bedroom while the husband sleeps
elsewhere is odd.
Janet US
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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Janet" > wrote in message
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>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 07:51:17 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You don't have kids Jill. You don't know. I am *not* going to make
>>> >>> her
>>> >>> make her own dinner during the school year. She has a line on two
>>> >>> jobs. If
>>> >>> she gets one, she'll have even less time at home.
>>> >>
>>> >The fact that I don't have kids doesn't have a thing to do with it.
>>>
>>> It does in fact have much to do with it - anybody who has not had kids
>>> doesn't have a clue what it is like to have them, raise them, watch
>>> them.

>>
>> Pure crap. I can think of numerous childless people whose lives were
>> devoted to the expert and loving raising, watching and responsibility
>> for other peoples children; as extended family, paid houseparents,
>> foster parents, teachers.
>>
>> Very often those childless people were far better at every aspect of
>> raising kids, than the childrens' feckless, reckless and selfish natural
>> parents.
>>
>> Janet UK

>
> Part time parenting is not the same as 24/7 for life.
>
> Cheri


Raising kids 24/7 (for life? You already don't understand about raising
kids!) often leads to burn out and "taking the easy way". A person with or
without kids who is fresh can see the situation differently and see that
sometimes things are not being done for the best, simply due to fatigue
factor. And, let's not forget - we were all kids at some point, so know how
kids think and some of the things that work and don't work.

"you don't have kids, so you can have no valid opinion" is pure rubbish.
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