On 2014-07-23 10:41 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Last time I was there I bought two boxes of strawberries as they changed the
>> assortment of fruits in their fruit bowl to mainly things that won't get
>> eaten here. The strawberries were no good. The ones that are technically
>> edible are very sour. And one box was loaded with mildewed ones right in
>> the middle. Of course you could not tell this because the ones on the
>> outside all looked good.
>
> Couldn't care less. I don't hate strawberries (I'll eat them if
> someone else does the work of preparing them), but I don't love them
> the way I love blueberries.
>



I like strawberries. The imported stuff is better quality and cheaper
than it used to be. As much as they have improved, they still don't
compare with the freshly picked local berries. Given a choice of fresh
strawberries, raspberries or blueberries, that would be the order of
preference for me.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:13:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> The "Hungry Man" dinners have one that's chicken with honey bourbon
> sauce and it's to die for. I'd like to recreate that taste.

If you ever figure out a version you like, please tell me.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:32:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I like strawberries. The imported stuff is better quality and cheaper
> than it used to be. As much as they have improved, they still don't
> compare with the freshly picked local berries. Given a choice of fresh
> strawberries, raspberries or blueberries, that would be the order of
> preference for me.

I don't give a second thought "imported", unless you mean from a
different county.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-23 12:29 PM, janet wrote:

> Smaller households could buy one between friends and divvy it up between them.
> But for a large family, its by far the cheapest way to buy long-life veg ...farms
> here sell potatoes and carrots for £3 a sack, straight off the farm, unwashed.
>

I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99

On 7/23/2014 10:42 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:12:51 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>> The rest of us thank you. You've been designated the shopper to be
>> the bad produce recipient so that the rest of us get the good stuff.
>> Good job!
>
> Honestly!
>
Thank goodness my Costco isn't a hand-me-down location so I could
get a container of beautiful cherries there this morning.

nancy

On 2014-07-23 12:47 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:32:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I like strawberries. The imported stuff is better quality and cheaper
>> than it used to be. As much as they have improved, they still don't
>> compare with the freshly picked local berries. Given a choice of fresh
>> strawberries, raspberries or blueberries, that would be the order of
>> preference for me.
>
> I don't give a second thought "imported", unless you mean from a
> different county.
>

I was talking about those that come from another country but I suppose
the real issue is the distant they travel. I can go down the street or
around the corner and get strawberries, raspberries, blueberries,
cherries and peaches that have just come in from the field. The
strawberries from Florida and California and Florida have been in a
truck for at least two days.

I have to admit that the local ones have to be used up within a 2-3 days
or they start to go a little off. I am sure we all know that whatever
it is they do to those other ones to make them keep a little longer does
not enhance their flavour.

sf wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:13:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > The "Hungry Man" dinners have one that's chicken with honey bourbon
> > sauce and it's to die for. I'd like to recreate that taste.
>
> If you ever figure out a version you like, please tell me.

I keep planning to but still have never started. I always have honey
but I need to buy some bourbon. Guess I'll google some recipes and
then try to pick and choose the ingredients. No doubt, I'll try many
versions before I hit on a good one. That Hungry Man sauce is pretty
much my target taste. I love it.

G.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:04:20 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-07-23 12:29 PM, janet wrote:
>
> > Smaller households could buy one between friends and divvy it up between them.
> > But for a large family, its by far the cheapest way to buy long-life veg ...farms
> > here sell potatoes and carrots for £3 a sack, straight off the farm, unwashed.
> >
>
> I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
> say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
> sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
> larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
> about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
> vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99

I look at it as a prime example of the cost of packaging. Yet another
reason why I prefer to buy mine by the pound, unpackaged.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:05:11 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> On 7/23/2014 10:42 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:12:51 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> The rest of us thank you. You've been designated the shopper to be
> >> the bad produce recipient so that the rest of us get the good stuff.
> >> Good job!
> >
> > Honestly!
> >
> Thank goodness my Costco isn't a hand-me-down location so I could
> get a container of beautiful cherries there this morning.
>
I often wonder after reading some of her spoiled (Costco) and
old/wilted (Trader Joe's) stories. She's on the West Coast just
outside Seattle where travel time between harvest and retail sale is
short, so how does that happen?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:05:11 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 7/23/2014 10:42 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:12:51 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> The rest of us thank you. You've been designated the shopper to be
>>> the bad produce recipient so that the rest of us get the good stuff.
>>> Good job!
>>
>> Honestly!
>>
>Thank goodness my Costco isn't a hand-me-down location so I could
>get a container of beautiful cherries there this morning.
>
>nancy


I just finished my bing cherry lunch - appetizer, main, side dish and
dessert. Yum. Burp.

I got them from Costco, of course, as I did the bananas, the
white-fleshed nectarines and the champagne grapes in the kitchen.

The champagne grapes are incredible. They usually come and go so
quickly, you blink and they are gone. I was pretty happy to find them
at $3.99 for a 3lb container.

Boron

On 2014-07-23 1:31 PM, sf wrote:

>> I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
>> say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
>> sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
>> larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
>> about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
>> vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99
>
> I look at it as a prime example of the cost of packaging. Yet another
> reason why I prefer to buy mine by the pound, unpackaged.


I view it more as a matter of marketing than a function of the cost of
packaging. There is not much difference in the cost per bag between the
2 lb and the 5 lb and plastic bags are cheap. They are probably being
bagged by machines, so we are not looking at doubling the labour costs.
Sure, the machine costs money but the are bother going through it.
Those 50 lb bags have to be a lot stronger and probably costs more than
25 2 pound bags.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
> say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
> sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
> larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
> about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
> vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99

50 lbs of carrots for $5.99 at a vegetable stand?

I don't think so.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:37:10 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

> The champagne grapes are incredible. They usually come and go so
> quickly, you blink and they are gone. I was pretty happy to find them
> at $3.99 for a 3lb container.

I wish I could find fresh currants at a price that I could make a pie
without securing a bank loan first.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:11:08 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
> > say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
> > sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
> > larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
> > about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
> > vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99
>
> 50 lbs of carrots for $5.99 at a vegetable stand?
>
> I don't think so.

Me either. IME, roadside stands are more expensive than the grocery
store, not cheaper. I never walk away from one marveling at all the
money I saved (or could have saved).

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-23 2:19 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:11:08 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
>>> say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
>>> sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
>>> larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
>>> about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
>>> vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99
>>
>> 50 lbs of carrots for $5.99 at a vegetable stand?
>>
>> I don't think so.
>
> Me either. IME, roadside stands are more expensive than the grocery
> store, not cheaper. I never walk away from one marveling at all the
> money I saved (or could have saved).
>

That is because you are in a city and getting the stands set up for the
city folks. The other day when I was in the grocery store the English
cucumbers were $1.29. The stand closest to us was selling them for $1,
and when I was out on my bicycle I went by two different places where
they were 2 for $1.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:18:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>>There is a little market in Lynnwood that appears to be Mexican based on
>>the
>>name, which now escapes me. I was always intrigued because outside, they
>>always have pallets containing huge sacks of onions.
>>
> snip
>
> It is not unusual to see 50 pound sacks of onions for sale in the
> area. Onions are grown here. Same with potatoes. No doubt your
> market had direct connection to the grower.
> Janet US

Could be.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> It is not unusual to see 50 pound sacks of onions for sale in the
>> area. Onions are grown here. Same with potatoes. No doubt your
>> market had direct connection to the grower.
>
> I would NEVER buy such a large amount of onions or potatoes. Most
> would go bad before I ever got to them.

Same here but could be useful for a restaurant.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:05:11 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 7/23/2014 10:42 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:12:51 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> The rest of us thank you. You've been designated the shopper to be
>> >> the bad produce recipient so that the rest of us get the good stuff.
>> >> Good job!
>> >
>> > Honestly!
>> >
>> Thank goodness my Costco isn't a hand-me-down location so I could
>> get a container of beautiful cherries there this morning.
>>
> I often wonder after reading some of her spoiled (Costco) and
> old/wilted (Trader Joe's) stories. She's on the West Coast just
> outside Seattle where travel time between harvest and retail sale is
> short, so how does that happen?
>
Costco has dates on a lot of their produce. Dates that they were packed on.
I am always surprised at how old some of that stuff is. Often it has been
packed for two weeks by the time I see it. One example is bell peppers.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:33:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-07-23 2:19 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:11:08 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
> >>> say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
> >>> sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
> >>> larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
> >>> about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
> >>> vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99
> >>
> >> 50 lbs of carrots for $5.99 at a vegetable stand?
> >>
> >> I don't think so.
> >
> > Me either. IME, roadside stands are more expensive than the grocery
> > store, not cheaper. I never walk away from one marveling at all the
> > money I saved (or could have saved).
> >
>
> That is because you are in a city and getting the stands set up for the
> city folks. The other day when I was in the grocery store the English
> cucumbers were $1.29. The stand closest to us was selling them for $1,
> and when I was out on my bicycle I went by two different places where
> they were 2 for $1.

I wasn't talking about any stand found inside the city.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:07:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >>
> >> It is not unusual to see 50 pound sacks of onions for sale in the
> >> area. Onions are grown here. Same with potatoes. No doubt your
> >> market had direct connection to the grower.
> >
> > I would NEVER buy such a large amount of onions or potatoes. Most
> > would go bad before I ever got to them.
>
> Same here but could be useful for a restaurant.

Why would a restaurant not have staples like that delivered? It's a
false economy because there is the cost of labor to send someone
shopping + gas and wear and tear on the vehicle. A market should be
opening up a 50lb sack of potatoes or onions to sell loose (by the
pound).

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:12:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:05:11 -0400, Nancy Young
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/23/2014 10:42 AM, sf wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:12:51 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The rest of us thank you. You've been designated the shopper to be
> >> >> the bad produce recipient so that the rest of us get the good stuff.
> >> >> Good job!
> >> >
> >> > Honestly!
> >> >
> >> Thank goodness my Costco isn't a hand-me-down location so I could
> >> get a container of beautiful cherries there this morning.
> >>
> > I often wonder after reading some of her spoiled (Costco) and
> > old/wilted (Trader Joe's) stories. She's on the West Coast just
> > outside Seattle where travel time between harvest and retail sale is
> > short, so how does that happen?
> >
> Costco has dates on a lot of their produce. Dates that they were packed on.
> I am always surprised at how old some of that stuff is. Often it has been
> packed for two weeks by the time I see it. One example is bell peppers.

Which begs the question about why you buy them and then complain.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know grocery stores and the other levels of the food business like to
>>>> say the have small mark ups on prices but you really have to wonder
>>>> sometimes when you see the price of small amounts of vegetables vs.
>>>> larger batches. For instance... a 2 lb bag of carrots around here is
>>>> about $2 but for a dollar more you can get 5 lb. At the local fruit and
>>>> vegetable stand I can get 50 lb for $5.99
>>>
>>> 50 lbs of carrots for $5.99 at a vegetable stand?
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>>
>> Me either. IME, roadside stands are more expensive than the grocery
>> store, not cheaper. I never walk away from one marveling at all the
>> money I saved (or could have saved).

I buy bulk carrots all the time for deer... best price I've seen in
the past five years has been 20 pound bags at $15... and these are
Canadian carrots.

>>>
>>> Me either. IME, roadside stands are more expensive than the grocery
>>> store, not cheaper. I never walk away from one marveling at all the
>>> money I saved (or could have saved).

Depends on the stand. I used to go to one in New Jersey that had the
best and freshest produce that was picked just hours or less ago.
People would wait for the tractor to come back from the corn field and
pay a premium over the corn picked earlier that day.

I don't look to save money, I look to get better quality.

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:42:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>
>
> >>> Me either. IME, roadside stands are more expensive than the grocery
>
> >>> store, not cheaper. I never walk away from one marveling at all the
>
> >>> money I saved (or could have saved).
>
>
>
> Depends on the stand. I used to go to one in New Jersey that had the
>
> best and freshest produce that was picked just hours or less ago.
>
> People would wait for the tractor to come back from the corn field and
>
> pay a premium over the corn picked earlier that day.
>
>
>
> I don't look to save money, I look to get better quality.



Absolutely me too!

Nellie

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:14:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:02:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Yikes! I hope this doesn't mean that we'll be seeing blueberries used
>> >> in
>> >> weird ways.
>> >
>> > Don't worry, they aren't cheap anymore. $3.99 pint as of today.
>>
>> Good!
> <snip>
>> He brought me back everything but bran, including two blueberry ones
>> which he ate when I said I wouldn't.
>>
>> But it turns out that he hates blueberries as much as I do.
>
> I absolutely LOVE blueberries. Raspberries too. I'm glad when they
> are cheap and plentiful. OTOH, you can ignore them. More for me.
>
I don't mind raspberries but wouldn't go out of my way for them.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Last time I was there I bought two boxes of strawberries as they changed
>> the
>> assortment of fruits in their fruit bowl to mainly things that won't get
>> eaten here. The strawberries were no good. The ones that are
>> technically
>> edible are very sour. And one box was loaded with mildewed ones right in
>> the middle. Of course you could not tell this because the ones on the
>> outside all looked good.
>
> Couldn't care less. I don't hate strawberries (I'll eat them if
> someone else does the work of preparing them), but I don't love them
> the way I love blueberries.
>
I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me. But
blueberries have to be the worst.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:07:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It is not unusual to see 50 pound sacks of onions for sale in the
>> >> area. Onions are grown here. Same with potatoes. No doubt your
>> >> market had direct connection to the grower.
>> >
>> > I would NEVER buy such a large amount of onions or potatoes. Most
>> > would go bad before I ever got to them.
>>
>> Same here but could be useful for a restaurant.
>
> Why would a restaurant not have staples like that delivered? It's a
> false economy because there is the cost of labor to send someone
> shopping + gas and wear and tear on the vehicle. A market should be
> opening up a 50lb sack of potatoes or onions to sell loose (by the
> pound).
>
I have seen on some of those food shows where the restaurant owners buy
certain things from the market. But I suppose there could be places other
than restaurants where they might need a huge amount of things at a time.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:12:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:05:11 -0400, Nancy Young
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 7/23/2014 10:42 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:12:51 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The rest of us thank you. You've been designated the shopper to be
>> >> >> the bad produce recipient so that the rest of us get the good
>> >> >> stuff.
>> >> >> Good job!
>> >> >
>> >> > Honestly!
>> >> >
>> >> Thank goodness my Costco isn't a hand-me-down location so I could
>> >> get a container of beautiful cherries there this morning.
>> >>
>> > I often wonder after reading some of her spoiled (Costco) and
>> > old/wilted (Trader Joe's) stories. She's on the West Coast just
>> > outside Seattle where travel time between harvest and retail sale is
>> > short, so how does that happen?
>> >
>> Costco has dates on a lot of their produce. Dates that they were packed
>> on.
>> I am always surprised at how old some of that stuff is. Often it has
>> been
>> packed for two weeks by the time I see it. One example is bell peppers.
>
> Which begs the question about why you buy them and then complain.
>
I didn't buy the peppers.

I didn't buy the cherries. Just said that they were obviously spoiled. I
would never buy something that was obviously spoiled.

The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to tell if
there might be spoiled ones in the middle. When I bought the last bag of
onions there, I forgot that I wasn't going to buy onions from them again. I
have yet to use them. So I don't know if they are good or not. They look
good but then so did the one yellow one that was moldy inside.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:42:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > Depends on the stand. I used to go to one in New Jersey that had the
> >
> > best and freshest produce that was picked just hours or less ago.
> >
> > People would wait for the tractor to come back from the corn field and
> >
> > pay a premium over the corn picked earlier that day.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't look to save money, I look to get better quality.
>
>
>
> Absolutely me too!
>
I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
the stalk.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to tell if
> there might be spoiled ones in the middle. When I bought the last bag of
> onions there, I forgot that I wasn't going to buy onions from them again. I
> have yet to use them. So I don't know if they are good or not. They look
> good but then so did the one yellow one that was moldy inside.

That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
happened so much that it was mentioned here. That thing with the
onions happens from time to time too. So one has a layer or two of
yuck that has to be peeled off. Do it and get on with life or don't
buy so many at any one time. You seem to over buy and then wonder why
things go bad on you. A hot garage is not an ideal storage area for
anything. It sounds like you need to shop daily and only buy what
you'll eat that day, because you're not saving any money by throwing
out as much food as you say you do.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-24 8:06 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:42:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Depends on the stand. I used to go to one in New Jersey that had the
>>>
>>> best and freshest produce that was picked just hours or less ago.
>>>
>>> People would wait for the tractor to come back from the corn field and
>>>
>>> pay a premium over the corn picked earlier that day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't look to save money, I look to get better quality.
>>
>>
>>
>> Absolutely me too!
>>
> I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
> and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
> variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
> the stalk.
>
I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:47:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Last time I was there I bought two boxes of strawberries as they changed
> >> the
> >> assortment of fruits in their fruit bowl to mainly things that won't get
> >> eaten here. The strawberries were no good. The ones that are
> >> technically
> >> edible are very sour. And one box was loaded with mildewed ones right in
> >> the middle. Of course you could not tell this because the ones on the
> >> outside all looked good.
> >
> > Couldn't care less. I don't hate strawberries (I'll eat them if
> > someone else does the work of preparing them), but I don't love them
> > the way I love blueberries.
> >
> I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me. But
> blueberries have to be the worst.

That's your special problem, not ours, nor do we want to hear about it
as if the fruit is to blame. You're just finding faults so you can
complain.

The bag of cherries I bought had one over ripe and moldy cherry in it.
I didn't complain about it here, I took it out and washed off the rest
of the cherries. Will I buy cherries from the same store again? You
bet I will and I won't be yammering about how bad I think their fruit
is in rfc when the subtext is that I don't like any fruit so I'm going
to find fault (no matter how small) in whatever I buy.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-24 8:21 AM, sf wrote:

>> I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me. But
>> blueberries have to be the worst.
>
> That's your special problem, not ours, nor do we want to hear about it
> as if the fruit is to blame. You're just finding faults so you can
> complain.

No guff. That is her MO.
>
> The bag of cherries I bought had one over ripe and moldy cherry in it.
> I didn't complain about it here, I took it out and washed off the rest
> of the cherries. Will I buy cherries from the same store again?

At least you know it is not farm fresh. Cherries develop stuff like
that a few days after picking. They are a very perishable fruit.



You
> bet I will and I won't be yammering about how bad I think their fruit
> is in rfc when the subtext is that I don't like any fruit so I'm going
> to find fault (no matter how small) in whatever I buy.
>

sf wrote:
>
> I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
> and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
> variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
> the stalk.

Variety definitely applies but corn is at its best when fresh picked.
The longer it's been off the stalk, it loses moisture and constantly
gets dryer.
Your grandfather had a garden, he probably used the corn that he
picked quickly.

G.

On 2014-07-24 8:34 AM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
>> and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
>> variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
>> the stalk.
>
> Variety definitely applies but corn is at its best when fresh picked.
> The longer it's been off the stalk, it loses moisture and constantly
> gets dryer.
> Your grandfather had a garden, he probably used the corn that he
> picked quickly.
>
>


People have their corn preferences. It annoys the pants off me to see
people peeling back the husks on corn to make sure it is all yellow, as
if they know how to judge corn. I think it is much better when it is
light. The end buts that they expose dry out, and corn that has been
ripped open is not suitable for grilling, which is my preferred method.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2014-07-24 8:06 AM, sf wrote:
> > I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
> > and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
> > variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
> > the stalk.
> >
> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.

Definitely!

I buy sweet white corn in season. I make a point to attend to it that
same day. I cut it all off the cobs and freeze each cob's worth in
baggies. No need to blanch..it's a worthless process for corn.

Eating it months later, just microwave to hot. Fresh corn (and fresh
frozen) does NOT need to be cooked, just heated.

G.

Gary wrote:
>sf wrote:
>>
>> I have never agreed with that corn thing.

That's because you're a fat assed illiterate imbecile who is incapable
of the most basic research.

>> My grandfather had a garden
>> and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
>> variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
>> the stalk.

Wrong!
Obviously gramps had a far higher IQ than your ignorant fat ass.

>Variety definitely applies but corn is at its best when fresh picked.
>The longer it's been off the stalk, it loses moisture and constantly
>gets dryer.

Has little to do with drying... from the moment sweet corn is picked
its sugar begins to convert to starch. Even if not eaten right away
it's best to cook sweet corn as close to harvest as possible, cooking
stops the conversion from sugar to starch... it's easy to reheat corn
although it's good eaten cold too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_corn
http://www.nytimes.com/video/dining/...ice-cream.html

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:39:50 -0700, sf > wrote:
snip
>
>I absolutely LOVE blueberries. Raspberries too. I'm glad when they
>are cheap and plentiful. OTOH, you can ignore them. More for me.

I had an interesting salad last night. Baby spinach, raspberries and
goat cheese. Don't know about the dressing -- something very mildly
sweet.
Janet US

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:38:11 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

snip
It annoys the pants off me to see
>people peeling back the husks on corn to make sure it is all yellow, as
>if they know how to judge corn. I think it is much better when it is
>light. The end buts that they expose dry out, and corn that has been
>ripped open is not suitable for grilling, which is my preferred method.

This practice stems from looking to see if the top of the corn has
been eaten by worms. This was a problem in the old days. New corn
varieties have been bred to have tighter tops so that insect eggs
don't get laid inside the husk. Peeling the top back also shows
whether the cob is fully developed.
Janet US

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:18:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.

I'm very serious. BTDT have the t-shirt to prove it.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.