On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:34:52 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
> > and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
> > variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
> > the stalk.
>
> Variety definitely applies but corn is at its best when fresh picked.
> The longer it's been off the stalk, it loses moisture and constantly
> gets dryer.
> Your grandfather had a garden, he probably used the corn that he
> picked quickly.
>
He did. That's why I can say that I didn't think there was a
difference then and still don't think there's a flavor difference
between fresh picked to pot in less than 10 minutes and corn that was
picked the day before. These days, grocery store corn is so fresh,
it's absolutely wonderful and you know it has to be at least two days
old. The noticeable difference in flavor is between commercially
processed corn and our own home frozen. I buy commercial frozen corn,
but the corn I freeze myself tastes like I just cut it off the cob.
No idea what they do to corn that I don't, but that's where the big
flavor difference is. Unlike you, I "roast" my corn before I cut it
off the cob (because I like it charred) - so mine is more cooked than
yours is going into the freezer.

Incidentally, last week I read in a canning group I belong to that the
consensus among them is home canned corn loses the fresh flavor home
frozen somehow manages to retain.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:55:41 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:18:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
>> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.
>
>I'm very serious. BTDT have the t-shirt to prove it.

I'm sorry
Janet US

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:38:11 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> People have their corn preferences. It annoys the pants off me to see
> people peeling back the husks on corn to make sure it is all yellow, as
> if they know how to judge corn.

All yellow? I look for developed kernels all the way to the tip and
back in the day, I'd do the fingernail test to see how juicy the
kernels were. But I just grope corn cobs these days because I don't
worry about how fresh it is anymore. I want well developed kernels
(which you can feel, you don't need to peel). I can tell if there's
an undeveloped tip or not just by feel too, but these days I don't
care. I just snap off the undeveloped part because the rest of it is
fine. Bugs and other nasties are not given any consideration because
corn is so beautiful these days. Better living through chemicals!

> I think it is much better when it is
> light. The end buts that they expose dry out, and corn that has been
> ripped open is not suitable for grilling, which is my preferred method.

That's where foil comes in handy. Take some outer leaves to cover up
the hole and wrap it in foil. Twist the ends or not depending on
personal preference.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-24 10:12 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> It annoys the pants off me to see
>> people peeling back the husks on corn to make sure it is all yellow, as
>> if they know how to judge corn. I think it is much better when it is
>> light. The end buts that they expose dry out, and corn that has been
>> ripped open is not suitable for grilling, which is my preferred method.
>
> This practice stems from looking to see if the top of the corn has
> been eaten by worms. This was a problem in the old days. New corn
> varieties have been bred to have tighter tops so that insect eggs
> don't get laid inside the husk. Peeling the top back also shows
> whether the cob is fully developed.


Worms? I have never heard that before. I have only known people to do it
to make sure of the development. I just grope the tops to make sure
that it is skinny at the top, indicating that it is not fully developed,
so it will be light and tender.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:58:15 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:39:50 -0700, sf > wrote:
> snip
> >
> >I absolutely LOVE blueberries. Raspberries too. I'm glad when they
> >are cheap and plentiful. OTOH, you can ignore them. More for me.
>
> I had an interesting salad last night. Baby spinach, raspberries and
> goat cheese. Don't know about the dressing -- something very mildly
> sweet.

I had a great salad the other day that was kind of the same ole same
ole (not complaining because I wanted it) - red pears, gorgonzola and
candied pecans on a bed of mixed greens... but the salad dressing was
to die for. It was made with sherry vinegar, rice vinegar (I forgot
to ask if it was plain or spiced), roasted garlic and shallots (which
I think were roasted too) and regular olive oil (not EVOO) plus a
bunch of other stuff. I didn't see any chunks, so it must have been
whizzed and strained. OMG, so good! I need to work on replicating
that recipe to some slight degree.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:34:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> At least you know it is not farm fresh. Cherries develop stuff like
> that a few days after picking. They are a very perishable fruit.
>

I don't harbor any ideas that it's "farm fresh", but even farm fresh
baskets contain over ripe fruit. I'm not going to eat it all in a
day, so even if it was purchased directly from the farm, it will still
age at home under less than ideal conditions.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-24 10:55 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:18:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
>> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.
>
> I'm very serious. BTDT have the t-shirt to prove it.
>


Yeah. I guess you are. I still find it hard to believe. I have had a lot
of corn fresh out of the garden. I have had a lot of corn that has been
freshly picked, and I have had corn that is a day or more older and
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that fresh picked corn is
sweeter, tastier and more tender. Perhaps, like many people, you are
being careful to get the bright yellow, over sized, over developed cobs
that are IMO inferior. I opt for the younger skinnier cobs with light
coloured kernels.

On 2014-07-24 11:23 AM, sf wrote:

>> People have their corn preferences. It annoys the pants off me to see
>> people peeling back the husks on corn to make sure it is all yellow, as
>> if they know how to judge corn.
>
> All yellow? I look for developed kernels all the way to the tip and
> back in the day, I'd do the fingernail test to see how juicy the
> kernels were. But I just grope corn cobs these days because I don't
> worry about how fresh it is anymore. I want well developed kernels
> (which you can feel, you don't need to peel).

Well okay then. That helps to explain your preferences. You are opting
for the lesser cobs. That's okay. It leaves the better tastier more
tender cobs for people like me.


e
> That's where foil comes in handy. Take some outer leaves to cover up
> the hole and wrap it in foil. Twist the ends or not depending on
> personal preference.

Should not be necessary. There is no good reason to open and discard
half the corn in the bin. If you have to open it you probably don't know
who to choose corn anyway. I prefer to have the husk on because I grill
it over direct heat until the husk is charred.

On 2014-07-24 11:32 AM, sf wrote:

> I don't harbor any ideas that it's "farm fresh", but even farm fresh
> baskets contain over ripe fruit. I'm not going to eat it all in a
> day, so even if it was purchased directly from the farm, it will still
> age at home under less than ideal conditions.
>

I buy it a cob or two at a time. I ride over to the fruit and vegetable
stand on my bicycle, then come home and throw it on the grill. I guess
I made the mistake of assuming that when we were talking about the
difference between freshly picked corn and stuff that had been sitting
around for a few days that it meant you were eating it. I have to
concede that if you buy it fresh picked but don't eat it for a few days
it is pretty much the same as getting it a few days old.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:06:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-07-24 10:55 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:18:47 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
>>> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.
>>
>> I'm very serious. BTDT have the t-shirt to prove it.
>>
>
>
>Yeah. I guess you are. I still find it hard to believe. I have had a lot
>of corn fresh out of the garden. I have had a lot of corn that has been
>freshly picked, and I have had corn that is a day or more older and
>there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that fresh picked corn is
>sweeter, tastier and more tender. Perhaps, like many people, you are
>being careful to get the bright yellow, over sized, over developed cobs
>that are IMO inferior. I opt for the younger skinnier cobs with light
>coloured kernels.

Not everyone prefers the taste that you do. I grow my own and I don't
pick until the kernels are round, plump and yellow. The skinny cobs
with light colored kernels are weak tasting IMO
Janet US

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:10:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-07-24 11:23 AM, sf wrote:
>
>>> People have their corn preferences. It annoys the pants off me to see
>>> people peeling back the husks on corn to make sure it is all yellow, as
>>> if they know how to judge corn.
>>
>> All yellow? I look for developed kernels all the way to the tip and
>> back in the day, I'd do the fingernail test to see how juicy the
>> kernels were. But I just grope corn cobs these days because I don't
>> worry about how fresh it is anymore. I want well developed kernels
>> (which you can feel, you don't need to peel).
>
>Well okay then. That helps to explain your preferences. You are opting
>for the lesser cobs. That's okay. It leaves the better tastier more
>tender cobs for people like me.
>
>
> e
>> That's where foil comes in handy. Take some outer leaves to cover up
>> the hole and wrap it in foil. Twist the ends or not depending on
>> personal preference.
>
>Should not be necessary. There is no good reason to open and discard
>half the corn in the bin. If you have to open it you probably don't know
>who to choose corn anyway. I prefer to have the husk on because I grill
>it over direct heat until the husk is charred.

Dave, you are getting corn with little flavor if you are picking out
skinny tips and light color.
Janet US

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to tell
>> if
>> there might be spoiled ones in the middle. When I bought the last bag of
>> onions there, I forgot that I wasn't going to buy onions from them again.
>> I
>> have yet to use them. So I don't know if they are good or not. They
>> look
>> good but then so did the one yellow one that was moldy inside.
>
> That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
> that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
> the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
> Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
> happened so much that it was mentioned here. That thing with the
> onions happens from time to time too. So one has a layer or two of
> yuck that has to be peeled off. Do it and get on with life or don't
> buy so many at any one time. You seem to over buy and then wonder why
> things go bad on you. A hot garage is not an ideal storage area for
> anything. It sounds like you need to shop daily and only buy what
> you'll eat that day, because you're not saving any money by throwing
> out as much food as you say you do.

I didn't overbuy and my garage isn't normally hot. The white onion that was
bad was purchased as a single onion. And there is *no* way that I would
shop daily. Do you have any idea how much that would cost me in gas? Or
how angry the people who live here would get if there were no food?

It was easy to do food when I lived alone. But when you live with other
people, there is no way of knowing what they will eat or how much of it.
Waste is inevitable. And no, we won't do the... You'll eat what is
available thing.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:47:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Last time I was there I bought two boxes of strawberries as they
>> >> changed
>> >> the
>> >> assortment of fruits in their fruit bowl to mainly things that won't
>> >> get
>> >> eaten here. The strawberries were no good. The ones that are
>> >> technically
>> >> edible are very sour. And one box was loaded with mildewed ones right
>> >> in
>> >> the middle. Of course you could not tell this because the ones on the
>> >> outside all looked good.
>> >
>> > Couldn't care less. I don't hate strawberries (I'll eat them if
>> > someone else does the work of preparing them), but I don't love them
>> > the way I love blueberries.
>> >
>> I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me. But
>> blueberries have to be the worst.
>
> That's your special problem, not ours, nor do we want to hear about it
> as if the fruit is to blame. You're just finding faults so you can
> complain.

I never said that it was. But... They did change the Costco fruit
assortment to contain blueberries and if I buy anything with blueberries in
it, I knlw no one here will eat any of it.
>
> The bag of cherries I bought had one over ripe and moldy cherry in it.
> I didn't complain about it here, I took it out and washed off the rest
> of the cherries. Will I buy cherries from the same store again? You
> bet I will and I won't be yammering about how bad I think their fruit
> is in rfc when the subtext is that I don't like any fruit so I'm going
> to find fault (no matter how small) in whatever I buy.

The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I could
see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
>
> --
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
>
>The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I could
>see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
snip

I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
Janet US

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:06:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-07-24 10:55 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:18:47 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
>>> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.
>>
>> I'm very serious. BTDT have the t-shirt to prove it.
>>
>
>
>Yeah. I guess you are. I still find it hard to believe. I have had a lot
>of corn fresh out of the garden. I have had a lot of corn that has been
>freshly picked, and I have had corn that is a day or more older and
>there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that fresh picked corn is
>sweeter, tastier and more tender. Perhaps, like many people, you are
>being careful to get the bright yellow, over sized, over developed cobs
>that are IMO inferior. I opt for the younger skinnier cobs with light
>coloured kernels.

I'm with you, Dave.

It gets starchy if it's left too long.

Doris

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:02:56 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to tell
>
> >> if
>
> >> there might be spoiled ones in the middle. When I bought the last bag of
>
> >> onions there, I forgot that I wasn't going to buy onions from them again.
>
> >> I
>
> >> have yet to use them. So I don't know if they are good or not. They
>
> >> look
>
> >> good but then so did the one yellow one that was moldy inside.
>
> >
>
> > That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
>
> > that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
>
> > the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
>
> > Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
>
> > happened so much that it was mentioned here. That thing with the
>
> > onions happens from time to time too. So one has a layer or two of
>
> > yuck that has to be peeled off. Do it and get on with life or don't
>
> > buy so many at any one time. You seem to over buy and then wonder why
>
> > things go bad on you. A hot garage is not an ideal storage area for
>
> > anything. It sounds like you need to shop daily and only buy what
>
> > you'll eat that day, because you're not saving any money by throwing
>
> > out as much food as you say you do.
>
>
>
> I didn't overbuy and my garage isn't normally hot. The white onion that was
>
> bad was purchased as a single onion. And there is *no* way that I would
>
> shop daily. Do you have any idea how much that would cost me in gas? Or
>
> how angry the people who live here would get if there were no food?
>
>
>
> It was easy to do food when I lived alone. But when you live with other
>
> people, there is no way of knowing what they will eat or how much of it.
>
> Waste is inevitable. And no, we won't do the... You'll eat what is
>
> available thing.

Nobody cares, fatback.

On 2014-07-24 3:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:06:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-24 10:55 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:18:47 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
>>>> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.
>>>
>>> I'm very serious. BTDT have the t-shirt to prove it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah. I guess you are. I still find it hard to believe. I have had a lot
>> of corn fresh out of the garden. I have had a lot of corn that has been
>> freshly picked, and I have had corn that is a day or more older and
>> there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that fresh picked corn is
>> sweeter, tastier and more tender. Perhaps, like many people, you are
>> being careful to get the bright yellow, over sized, over developed cobs
>> that are IMO inferior. I opt for the younger skinnier cobs with light
>> coloured kernels.
>
> Not everyone prefers the taste that you do. I grow my own and I don't
> pick until the kernels are round, plump and yellow. The skinny cobs
> with light colored kernels are weak tasting IMO

Okay, but you don't have to ruin the cob for the next person.
>

On 2014-07-24 3:04 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

>> Should not be necessary. There is no good reason to open and discard
>> half the corn in the bin. If you have to open it you probably don't know
>> who to choose corn anyway. I prefer to have the husk on because I grill
>> it over direct heat until the husk is charred.
>
> Dave, you are getting corn with little flavor if you are picking out
> skinny tips and light color.

No. I am getting wonderful, tender, sweet corn.

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:47:42 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Last time I was there I bought two boxes of strawberries as they changed
>
> >> the
>
> >> assortment of fruits in their fruit bowl to mainly things that won't get
>
> >> eaten here. The strawberries were no good. The ones that are
>
> >> technically
>
> >> edible are very sour. And one box was loaded with mildewed ones right in
>
> >> the middle. Of course you could not tell this because the ones on the
>
> >> outside all looked good.
>
> >
>
> > Couldn't care less. I don't hate strawberries (I'll eat them if
>
> > someone else does the work of preparing them), but I don't love them
>
> > the way I love blueberries.
>
> >
>
> I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me. But
>
> blueberries have to be the worst.

Julie...you must have the most weird taste buds in North America. NEVER have I heard anyone say that most fruit tastes "bad" until now. Are you sure that you have ANY taste buds?

===

On 2014-07-24 21:08, Roy wrote:

>> I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me.
>> But
>>
>> blueberries have to be the worst.
>
> Julie...you must have the most weird taste buds in North America.
> NEVER have I heard anyone say that most fruit tastes "bad" until now.
> Are you sure that you have ANY taste buds?
>

Are you new here? You could right volumes on the foods that one,some or
all of the Bove family don't like, hate, can't stand, can't eat, are
allergic to......

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-07-24 8:06 AM, sf wrote:
>> > I have never agreed with that corn thing. My grandfather had a garden
>> > and that was his mantra, but AFAIC the taste of corn depends on what
>> > variety it is (and if it's over cooked) - not how long it has been off
>> > the stalk.
>> >
>> I hope you aren't serious about that. Some varieties of corn are better
>> than others, but the sooner you cook it after picking the better it is.
>
> Definitely!
>
> I buy sweet white corn in season. I make a point to attend to it that
> same day. I cut it all off the cobs and freeze each cob's worth in
> baggies. No need to blanch..it's a worthless process for corn.
>
> Eating it months later, just microwave to hot. Fresh corn (and fresh
> frozen) does NOT need to be cooked, just heated.

Really fresh totally raw corn is the best.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> snip
>>
>>The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I
>>could
>>see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
> snip
>
> I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
> headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
> have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
> this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
> Janet US

Why should I? They're like that all the time. I'm not going to be the one
to report them. What would *I* get out of it?

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:47:42 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:12:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >> Last time I was there I bought two boxes of strawberries as they
>> >> changed
>>
>> >> the
>>
>> >> assortment of fruits in their fruit bowl to mainly things that won't
>> >> get
>>
>> >> eaten here. The strawberries were no good. The ones that are
>>
>> >> technically
>>
>> >> edible are very sour. And one box was loaded with mildewed ones right
>> >> in
>>
>> >> the middle. Of course you could not tell this because the ones on the
>>
>> >> outside all looked good.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Couldn't care less. I don't hate strawberries (I'll eat them if
>>
>> > someone else does the work of preparing them), but I don't love them
>>
>> > the way I love blueberries.
>>
>> >
>>
>> I don't love any kind of fruit. Most fruit tastes very bad to me. But
>>
>> blueberries have to be the worst.
>
> Julie...you must have the most weird taste buds in North America. NEVER
> have I heard anyone say that most fruit tastes "bad" until now. Are you
> sure that you have ANY taste buds?

Then you don't talk to many people. My daughter won't eat most fruit
either, or one of my friends. Even my husband is very picky as to what
fruit he will eat. I've spoken to countless people who don't like fruit.
Of course I have taste buds. To me, fruit usually tastes either sweet or
sour, two tastes that I don't care for. I do like some sweet foods but I am
really picky as to what those are. The sweetness of a carrot is perfect.
The sweetness of a sweet potato is not. I do like caramelized onions
though.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>>The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I
>>>could
>>>see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
>> snip
>>
>> I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
>> headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
>> have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
>> this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
>> Janet US
>
> Why should I? They're like that all the time. I'm not going to be the one
> to report them. What would *I* get out of it?

I was at Costcos in Sioux Falls, SD and Iowa City, IA and FWIW they are
much cleaner than the one in Southcenter

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>>The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I
>>>>could
>>>>see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
>>> snip
>>>
>>> I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
>>> headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
>>> have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
>>> this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> Why should I? They're like that all the time. I'm not going to be the
>> one
>> to report them. What would *I* get out of it?
>
> I was at Costcos in Sioux Falls, SD and Iowa City, IA and FWIW they are
> much cleaner than the one in Southcenter

I haven't been to that one. I normally go to either Woodinville, Everett or
Shoreline. Went to the one in Kirkland once and did not like it. It was
not particularly clean on the day we were there and it was much more mobbed
than the others. Have also been to the business center in Lynnwood and it
doesn't seem very clean. The ones we normally go to do seem clean.

On 7/24/2014 7:14 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to tell if
>> there might be spoiled ones in the middle. When I bought the last bag of
>> onions there, I forgot that I wasn't going to buy onions from them again. I
>> have yet to use them. So I don't know if they are good or not. They look
>> good but then so did the one yellow one that was moldy inside.
>
> That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
> that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
> the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
> Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
> happened so much that it was mentioned here. That thing with the
> onions happens from time to time too. So one has a layer or two of
> yuck that has to be peeled off. Do it and get on with life or don't
> buy so many at any one time. You seem to over buy and then wonder why
> things go bad on you. A hot garage is not an ideal storage area for
> anything. It sounds like you need to shop daily and only buy what
> you'll eat that day, because you're not saving any money by throwing
> out as much food as you say you do.

When I cook baked potatoes, I always cook one extra potato, just in case
one of them has a huge black whole in the middle. Most of the time they
are fine, so I will refrigerate that extra potato to include in
breakfast. I will make home fries by cutting the potato into cubes and
frying it with onions, or I will use the potato in breakfast tacos,
cooked the same way, I just have to add eggs and meat of some sort.

Becca

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I
>>>>> could
>>>>> see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
>>>> headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
>>>> have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
>>>> this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Why should I? They're like that all the time. I'm not going to be the
>>> one
>>> to report them. What would *I* get out of it?
>>
>> I was at Costcos in Sioux Falls, SD and Iowa City, IA and FWIW they are
>> much cleaner than the one in Southcenter
>
> I'm guessing the Chicago area Costcos must be so clean that I've never
> even considered their cleanliness when I'm there. They're all spotless.
>
> I can't even imagine a dirty Costco.

Check out the one in Stockton CA. I haven't been there in a very long time,
so they may have cleaned it up by now, but it was a mess.

Cheri

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:54:14 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

> On 7/24/2014 7:14 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to tell if
> >> there might be spoiled ones in the middle.
> >
> > That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
> > that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
> > the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
> > Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
> > happened so much that it was mentioned here.
>
> When I cook baked potatoes, I always cook one extra potato, just in case
> one of them has a huge black whole in the middle.

Is it still happening or are you gun shy? I haven't encountered it in
recent memory - but maybe I've just been lucky.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:51:46 -0500, barbie gee >
wrote:

> I can't even imagine a dirty Costco.

Me either.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:33:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> Check out the one in Stockton CA. I haven't been there in a very long time,
> so they may have cleaned it up by now, but it was a mess.

Stockton is a depressed area so maybe they don't hire enough people to
keep the shelves and floors neat. The K-Mart a few miles away from me
was a horrible place before they finally quit the lease on that
property. It was quite a stark contrast to the one in Corvallis,
Oregon (which I called "the Macy's of Corvallis) back when Mom was
still alive.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:54:14 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2014 7:14 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to
>> >> tell if
>> >> there might be spoiled ones in the middle.
>> >
>> > That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
>> > that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
>> > the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
>> > Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
>> > happened so much that it was mentioned here.
>>
>> When I cook baked potatoes, I always cook one extra potato, just in case
>> one of them has a huge black whole in the middle.
>
> Is it still happening or are you gun shy? I haven't encountered it in
> recent memory - but maybe I've just been lucky.

It hasn't happened to me, but I still do a couple extra because D loves
homefries.


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On 7/24/2014 7:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-07-24 3:04 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>>> Should not be necessary. There is no good reason to open and discard
>>> half the corn in the bin. If you have to open it you probably don't know
>>> who to choose corn anyway. I prefer to have the husk on because I grill
>>> it over direct heat until the husk is charred.
>>
>> Dave, you are getting corn with little flavor if you are picking out
>> skinny tips and light color.
>
> No. I am getting wonderful, tender, sweet corn.

We were getting the best corn, it was mixed in color, yellow and white,
but the last corn I bought, I did not care for at all, it was all yellow.

Becca

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I
>>>>> could
>>>>> see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
>>>> headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
>>>> have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
>>>> this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Why should I? They're like that all the time. I'm not going to be the
>>> one
>>> to report them. What would *I* get out of it?
>>
>> I was at Costcos in Sioux Falls, SD and Iowa City, IA and FWIW they are
>> much cleaner than the one in Southcenter
>
> I'm guessing the Chicago area Costcos must be so clean that I've never
> even considered their cleanliness when I'm there. They're all spotless.
>
> I can't even imagine a dirty Costco.

Ours had a nasty accident on the olive aisle today. Whatever was broken was
gone but there was what appeared to be Kalamatta brine all over the floor.
There was a guy going up and down with one of those big cleaning machines so
perhaps he eventually got to it.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
> crg.pbz...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:04:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cherries that I saw at Costco went beyond that. Not moldy that I
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> see but mushy and wrinkled. All of them.
>>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> I've told you before that you need to report this Costco to
>>>>> headquarters. Take pictures with your cell phone. That way you will
>>>>> have evidence of your claim. It won't take much of your time to do
>>>>> this. You won't even have to buy the produce.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> Why should I? They're like that all the time. I'm not going to be the
>>>> one
>>>> to report them. What would *I* get out of it?
>>>
>>> I was at Costcos in Sioux Falls, SD and Iowa City, IA and FWIW they are
>>> much cleaner than the one in Southcenter
>>
>> I'm guessing the Chicago area Costcos must be so clean that I've never
>> even considered their cleanliness when I'm there. They're all spotless.
>>
>> I can't even imagine a dirty Costco.
>
> Check out the one in Stockton CA. I haven't been there in a very long
> time, so they may have cleaned it up by now, but it was a mess.

We went to one in the Bay Area. Can't remember where and it was years ago.
Madhouse! Horrid lines and crazy busy everywhere. I can't even remember if
it was clean or not because there were so many people to make your way
around, you couldn't see much else. Then we lost my dad in there. We
wandered for two hours trying to find him. It was very annoying. They said
they didn't have a PA system and couldn't page him.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:33:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> Check out the one in Stockton CA. I haven't been there in a very long
>> time,
>> so they may have cleaned it up by now, but it was a mess.
>
> Stockton is a depressed area so maybe they don't hire enough people to
> keep the shelves and floors neat. The K-Mart a few miles away from me
> was a horrible place before they finally quit the lease on that
> property. It was quite a stark contrast to the one in Corvallis,
> Oregon (which I called "the Macy's of Corvallis) back when Mom was
> still alive.

The K Mart in Oakland was hideous. Not only filthy and cluttered but had
bums all over the parking lot begging for money.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:54:14 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2014 7:14 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> The way that they pack the onions and potatoes makes it difficult to
>> >> tell if
>> >> there might be spoiled ones in the middle.
>> >
>> > That happens from time to time. I remember in the recent past years
>> > that potatoes had some sort of a blight where they would look fine on
>> > the outside and I'd cut one open to see a black spot in the middle.
>> > Sometimes the black spot would be a big, rotted, moldy hole. It
>> > happened so much that it was mentioned here.
>>
>> When I cook baked potatoes, I always cook one extra potato, just in case
>> one of them has a huge black whole in the middle.
>
> Is it still happening or are you gun shy? I haven't encountered it in
> recent memory - but maybe I've just been lucky.
>
I haven't had it recently. I have had a weird thing with both potatoes and
onions where there is peel on the inside. But when I bake potatoes, I
always make extra. I don't bake potatoes very often. But leftovers always
get eaten. That was one thing I had Angela make a lot of when I was stuck
on the couch. Put enough toppings on them and you've got a meal. Salad on
the side.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> We went to one in the Bay Area. Can't remember where and it was years ago.
> Madhouse! Horrid lines and crazy busy everywhere. I can't even remember if
> it was clean or not because there were so many people to make your way
> around, you couldn't see much else. Then we lost my dad in there. We
> wandered for two hours trying to find him. It was very annoying.

LMAO!

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:19:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I haven't had it recently. I have had a weird thing with both potatoes and
> onions where there is peel on the inside. But when I bake potatoes, I
> always make extra. I don't bake potatoes very often. But leftovers always
> get eaten. That was one thing I had Angela make a lot of when I was stuck
> on the couch. Put enough toppings on them and you've got a meal. Salad on
> the side.

I rarely make more than will be eaten in one meal. What on earth do
people do with one extra potato? We don't make a meal out of a potato
- ever.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 2014-07-26 12:13 PM, sf wrote:

>
> I rarely make more than will be eaten in one meal. What on earth do
> people do with one extra potato? We don't make a meal out of a potato
> - ever.

One leftover potato would work for us. I rarely eat a whole one. My wife
sometimes boils an extra one and then makes home fries with it the next day.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> We went to one in the Bay Area. Can't remember where and it was years
>> ago.
>> Madhouse! Horrid lines and crazy busy everywhere. I can't even remember
>> if
>> it was clean or not because there were so many people to make your way
>> around, you couldn't see much else. Then we lost my dad in there. We
>> wandered for two hours trying to find him. It was very annoying.
>
> LMAO!

He was eating the free samples. And there were tons on that day.