Until recently, I didn't know there were bad ones. I used to make them as a
child out of Bisquick. Got the recipe from a cookbook that my mom had. I
didn't know any better.

Locally, I can get Surita which seem very good to me but there are issues.
One was that the bags they come in did not seal properly. More than once, I
lost the tortillas to the floor, even though after the first time, I checked
the bags well. I did write to them and they corrected this. The other
issues are... One store than sells them, keeps them on the shelf. They
need to be refrigerated or they go moldy. The other store that sells them,
often sells badly expired ones. So getting good, fresh ones can be tough.

I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad. Really
doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.

Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99 cents
at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts of
three. Never did get a whole one.

Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
little doughy.

Normally I buy a corn/what blend. I think they are from La Tortilla
factory.

And yes, I know I could make my own but that makes no sense for me to do so.
We never eat a dozen at a time and usually when I do use them it is 1-3 at a
time.

So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?

Havent ever got a good one from the store and very few Mexican Restaurants have any that are worth a flip either. Now I have heard a rumor of some good ones which can found in the frozen food section but aint never tried em or recall the brand right now. They are very easy to make at home with a bread machine on the dough setting. Flour..salt..grease and water is all it takes.

"bigwheel" > wrote in message
...

> Havent ever got a good one from the store and very few Mexican
> Restaurants have any that are worth a flip either. Now I have heard a
> rumor of some good ones which can found in the frozen food section but
> aint never tried em or recall the brand right now. They are very easy
> to make at home with a bread machine on the dough setting.
> Flour..salt..grease and water is all it takes.

Not in my bread machine. It only makes loaves of bread. And once started,
it's locked until the bread is baked. No way to just knead a dough and take
it out. But... I think it wouldn't be worth the time to try to make the
dough to make one measly tortilla at a time.

I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen. The
only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then you have
to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen state.

Never heard of a bread machine like you got. Maybe you could just unplug it and dump out the raw dough before it started cooking itself? Sure you could do the same thing with a KA Mixer with a dough hook. Anything to try to save all the hand kneading by the cute mamacita. I use 3 cups flour which makes about 12 pretty good sized torts. Thanks for the heads up on the frozen models. Knew there was likely some reason I had not bought any of those.

"bigwheel" > wrote in message
...
>
> 'Julie Bove[_2_ Wrote:
>> ;1859563']"bigwheel" wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> -
>> Havent ever got a good one from the store and very few Mexican
>> Restaurants have any that are worth a flip either. Now I have heard a
>> rumor of some good ones which can found in the frozen food section but
>> aint never tried em or recall the brand right now. They are very easy
>> to make at home with a bread machine on the dough setting.
>> Flour..salt..grease and water is all it takes.-
>>
>> Not in my bread machine. It only makes loaves of bread. And once
>> started,
>> it's locked until the bread is baked. No way to just knead a dough and
>> take
>> it out. But... I think it wouldn't be worth the time to try to make
>> the
>> dough to make one measly tortilla at a time.
>>
>> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
>> The
>> only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then you
>> have
>> to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen state.
>
> Never heard of a bread machine like you got. Maybe you could just unplug
> it and dump out the raw dough before it started cooking itself? Sure you
> could do the same thing with a KA Mixer with a dough hook. Anything to
> try to save all the hand kneading by the cute mamacita. I use 3 cups
> flour which makes about 12 pretty good sized torts. Thanks for the heads
> up on the frozen models. Knew there was likely some reason I had not
> bought any of those.

Unplugging it won't help. It won't unplug when unlocked. It's old and it
was cheap. And I don't have a KA mixer. I do have a Bosch. But I prefer
to mix by hand for most things.

Ok well knead it by hand. You could grow up to be famous.

On 8/24/2013 2:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
> The only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then
> you have to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen
> state.

Not so.

You can use a butter knife to get between them and lever off what you wish.

We buy fresh in bulk, freeze, and re-use later.

In that method you can also put a sheet of wax paper between them and
pack 4-6 at a time in a ziplock to freeze.

They reheat brilliantly when thawed by passing them over an open gas flame.

"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/24/2013 2:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
>> The only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then
>> you have to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen
>> state.
>
> Not so.
>
> You can use a butter knife to get between them and lever off what you
> wish.

The frozen ones we have tried will break if you try that.
>
> We buy fresh in bulk, freeze, and re-use later.
>
> In that method you can also put a sheet of wax paper between them and pack
> 4-6 at a time in a ziplock to freeze.
>
If you have the freezer space. Which we do not.

> They reheat brilliantly when thawed by passing them over an open gas
> flame.

Don't have that either.

On 8/27/2013 3:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "casa contenta" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/24/2013 2:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
>>> The only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then
>>> you have to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen
>>> state.
>>
>> Not so.
>>
>> You can use a butter knife to get between them and lever off what you
>> wish.
>
> The frozen ones we have tried will break if you try that.

Indeed, they don't sell those here, too much fresh available.

>>
>> We buy fresh in bulk, freeze, and re-use later.
>>
>> In that method you can also put a sheet of wax paper between them and
>> pack 4-6 at a time in a ziplock to freeze.
>>
> If you have the freezer space. Which we do not.

I recall you mentioning a freezer outage before.

>
>> They reheat brilliantly when thawed by passing them over an open gas
>> flame.
>
> Don't have that either.

Gas grill does the trick also.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?

Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
>
> G.

Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans. They
were fine but I can get cheaper.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>>
>> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
>>
>> G.
>
> Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans. They
> were fine but I can get cheaper.

But do you want good or do you want cheap? <g>


--
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:16:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
> >>
> >> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
> >>
> >> G.
> >
> > Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans. They
> > were fine but I can get cheaper.
>
> But do you want good or do you want cheap? <g>
>
That was my first reaction too and she knows where cheap gets her.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
> >>
> >> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
> >>
> >> G.
> >
> > Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans. They
> > were fine but I can get cheaper.
>
> But do you want good or do you want cheap? <g>

She said she wanted good. I like that brand and they *are* cheaper
than most with all of their products.

G.

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:15:14 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
>
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> > >
>
> > > "Gary" > wrote in message
>
> > > ...
>
> > >> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
>
> > >>
>
> > >> G.
>
> > >
>
> > > Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans. They
>
> > > were fine but I can get cheaper.
>
> >
>
> > But do you want good or do you want cheap? <g>
>
>
>
> She said she wanted good. I like that brand and they *are* cheaper
>
> than most with all of their products.
>
Carlita is a SuperValu brand, some of which are really good.
The Java Delight Sumatra coffee is really nice, and relatively inexpensive.
The Culinary Circle frozen pizzas are a pretty good knockoff of Palermo's.
The Whole Care Pet clumping cat litter is every bit as good as any name
brand, and when I saw this idiot in line at the grocery store with the name brand stuff, I told him that. He said that he was just getting what his
wife told him to get. I hope those two don't reproduce, and further filthy
up the gene pool like Julie did.
>
> G.

--Bryan O|O

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>>>
>>> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
>>>
>>> G.
>>
>> Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans.
>> They were fine but I can get cheaper.
>
> But do you want good or do you want cheap? <g>

I'd prefer both.

On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
> I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad. Really
> doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
> ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.

Cook's Country is fill with white people who probably don't know how
to heat a tortilla properly. It's not going to be any good if you
heat it in the microwave.
>
> Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99 cents
> at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
> together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts of
> three. Never did get a whole one.
>
> Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
> problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
> little doughy.

How do you warm your tortillas?
>
> Normally I buy a corn/what blend. I think they are from La Tortilla
> factory.

Corn/wheat blend? Not a fan.
>
> And yes, I know I could make my own but that makes no sense for me to do so.
> We never eat a dozen at a time and usually when I do use them it is 1-3 at a
> time.
>
> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?

I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/24/2013 9:12 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>> I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad. Really
>> doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
>> ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.
>
> Cook's Country is fill with white people who probably don't know how
> to heat a tortilla properly. It's not going to be any good if you
> heat it in the microwave.
>>
>> Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99 cents
>> at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
>> together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts of
>> three. Never did get a whole one.
>>
>> Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
>> problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
>> little doughy.
>
> How do you warm your tortillas?
>>
>> Normally I buy a corn/what blend. I think they are from La Tortilla
>> factory.
>
> Corn/wheat blend? Not a fan.
>>
>> And yes, I know I could make my own but that makes no sense for me to do so.
>> We never eat a dozen at a time and usually when I do use them it is 1-3 at a
>> time.
>>
>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
> brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
> Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
> if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
> Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
> blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
> don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
> with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
> corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
>

I prefer corn tortillas but I usually soften them by hanging them from
the wires of an oven at 350F for about a minute.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>> I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad.
>> Really
>> doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
>> ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.
>
> Cook's Country is fill with white people who probably don't know how
> to heat a tortilla properly. It's not going to be any good if you
> heat it in the microwave.
>>
>> Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99
>> cents
>> at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
>> together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts
>> of
>> three. Never did get a whole one.
>>
>> Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
>> problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
>> little doughy.
>
> How do you warm your tortillas?

Microwave.
>>
>> Normally I buy a corn/what blend. I think they are from La Tortilla
>> factory.
>
> Corn/wheat blend? Not a fan.
>>
>> And yes, I know I could make my own but that makes no sense for me to do
>> so.
>> We never eat a dozen at a time and usually when I do use them it is 1-3
>> at a
>> time.
>>
>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
> brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
> Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
> if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
> Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
> blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
> don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
> with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
> corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.

Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:12:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad.
> >> Really
> >> doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
> >> ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.
> >
> > Cook's Country is fill with white people who probably don't know how
> > to heat a tortilla properly. It's not going to be any good if you
> > heat it in the microwave.
> >>
> >> Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99
> >> cents
> >> at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
> >> together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts
> >> of
> >> three. Never did get a whole one.
> >>
> >> Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
> >> problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
> >> little doughy.
> >
> > How do you warm your tortillas?
>
> Microwave.
> >>

That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.
> >>
> >> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
> >
> > I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
> > brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
> > Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
> > if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
> > Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
> > blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
> > don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
> > with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
> > corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
>
> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.

So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
tortilla properly.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.

Don't have such a pan and it's a fine way to warm them up for bean tacos.
>> >>
>> >> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>> >
>> > I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
>> > brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
>> > Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
>> > if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
>> > Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
>> > blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
>> > don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
>> > with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
>> > corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
>>
>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
> So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
> tortilla properly.

They said they were doughy and that's what I don't want.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:40:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.
>
> Don't have such a pan and it's a fine way to warm them up for bean tacos.
> >> >>
> >> >> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
> >> >
> >> > I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
> >> > brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
> >> > Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
> >> > if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
> >> > Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
> >> > blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
> >> > don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
> >> > with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
> >> > corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
> >>
> >> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
> >
> > So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
> > tortilla properly.
>
> They said they were doughy and that's what I don't want.

Let's recap: you heat tortillas in the microwave and rely on the word
of some TV talking head about what tortilla is "doughy". Why ask here
then? You obviously want miracles from the cheap cr*p you buy at
Walmart and Super Target and don't want to hear anything that
contradicts it what you heard on ATK.

Conclusion: You're wasting our time again.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/24/2013 1:51 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:12:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad.
>>>> Really
>>>> doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
>>>> ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.
>>>
>>> Cook's Country is fill with white people who probably don't know how
>>> to heat a tortilla properly. It's not going to be any good if you
>>> heat it in the microwave.
>>>>
>>>> Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99
>>>> cents
>>>> at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
>>>> together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts
>>>> of
>>>> three. Never did get a whole one.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
>>>> problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
>>>> little doughy.
>>>
>>> How do you warm your tortillas?
>>
>> Microwave.
>>>>
>
> That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.

Now that's my second favorite method, after using an open gas burner.

The little char from an open flame is magical.

>>>>
>>>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>>>
>>> I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
>>> brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
>>> Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
>>> if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
>>> Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
>>> blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
>>> don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
>>> with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
>>> corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
>>
>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
> So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
> tortilla properly.
>
They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!

That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.

The Mission Carb Balance is the only small low carb tortillas I can get
here. We get the whole wheat ones. The other low carb ones are too big.

We don't eat them often, bit I will put them in the mold and use them
for a taco salad or for chicken enchiladas. I will make myself a
quesadilla with them on occasion.

I buy the tiny corn ones for fish tacos.

I thought you were diabetic, Julie? How can you justify all the carbs
in a flour tortilla?
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
> The Mission Carb Balance is the only small low carb tortillas I can get
> here. We get the whole wheat ones. The other low carb ones are too big.
>
> We don't eat them often, bit I will put them in the mold and use them for
> a taco salad or for chicken enchiladas. I will make myself a quesadilla
> with them on occasion.
>
> I buy the tiny corn ones for fish tacos.
>
> I thought you were diabetic, Julie? How can you justify all the carbs in
> a flour tortilla?

Is that the mold that makes the taco salad shells? I was tempted to buy one
but Angela didn't want me to.

Yes, I am diabetic. Small tortillas aren't overly high in carbs. And I
don't/can't eat low carb. I have to eat enough carbs or my BG soars up into
the 300's. But I also have to make sure not to eat too many carbs or it
will soar too high too.

I am also an atypical diabetic and foods that work well for me might not
work for most. Like white rice and floury things. Because I have
gastroparesis, I have to limit my diet to easily digested foods. Things
will too much fat or fiber stay in my stomach too long and raise my BG.
Oddly though, beans are fine for me.

> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
>
I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand as the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all white.

> wrote in message
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>
>> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>>
>>
> I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand as
> the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all
> white.

Thanks! I checked the fridge last night and what I have in whole wheat is
Old El Paso. Not sure where I got them and the package isn't open so we
haven't tried them yet.

On 8/25/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>>
>>
> I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand as the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all white.
>
All their food products are eastern seaboard primarily.

That can be a problem out west.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:10:34 -0700, The Other Guy
> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:12:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
> All the talk of tortillas made me crave a quesadilla,
> so bought a pack of Mission flour tortillas today and
> MADE some. And they were FINE, just as good as ever.
>
> So ATK can BITE me!!
>
You get the last word.

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All I know is.....I buy the ones in the fridge section vs. the ones on the dry aisle shelves. I figure they have fewer preservatives. I like the ziplock bag and they last for weeks if not months in my crisper drawer. I like the jumbo size - they make for easier folding or rolling. I think the last I bought were made in Miami....or Texas....or.......somewhere....

I knew of a tortilleria set for a movie and they never removed the signage. For ages, ppl were banging on the door of an empty building, trying to get the product or a job maybe. So much for Hollywood cleaning up after themselves. I often wonder about those burning cars careening off cliffs.

On 8/25/2013 8:15 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> All I know is.....I buy the ones in the fridge section vs. the ones on the dry aisle shelves. I figure they have fewer preservatives.
I like the ziplock bag and they last for weeks if not months in my
crisper drawer.

Uh, what? Fewer preservatives, therefor they last for months?! That
doesn't make much sense.

Please stop using Google Groups. There is no line wrapping and replying
to your posts really sucks.

Jill

On 8/23/2013 7:52 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?

The ones that come fresh-made straight from a local tortilleria!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> Good ones are the raw ones you buy in the refrigerated section. You
> cook them in a hot pan for 30-45 seconds on each side. They are thin,
> not doughy, and are much better than any pre-cooked and bagged
> tortillas from the bread aisle.
>
> Costco used to have a version, but now they are selling chapati or
> roti flatbread which look very similar, but I have not tried them.

Ah. Have seen raw but can't remember where. Will look for them. Had a
flat bread sample and it was good but we'd never eat that many.

On 2013-08-24, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> Good ones are the raw ones you buy in the refrigerated section. You
> cook them in a hot pan for 30-45 seconds on each side. They are thin,
> not doughy, and are much better than any pre-cooked and bagged
> tortillas from the bread aisle.

Yer all wrong. Bad are the those labeled "no trans fats". Why? Cuz
they use vegetable oil or something equally lame healthy ingredient.
Good one's are those made with real manteca (lard). Almost impossible
to find, anymore.

Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
the like.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
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> On 2013-08-24, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>>
>> Good ones are the raw ones you buy in the refrigerated section. You
>> cook them in a hot pan for 30-45 seconds on each side. They are thin,
>> not doughy, and are much better than any pre-cooked and bagged
>> tortillas from the bread aisle.
>
> Yer all wrong. Bad are the those labeled "no trans fats". Why? Cuz
> they use vegetable oil or something equally lame healthy ingredient.
> Good one's are those made with real manteca (lard). Almost impossible
> to find, anymore.
>
> Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
> a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
> being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
> matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
> used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
> the like.
>
> nb

As I said... Would make no sense to try to make just one.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2013-08-24, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
> >>
> >> Good ones are the raw ones you buy in the refrigerated section. You
> >> cook them in a hot pan for 30-45 seconds on each side. They are thin,
> >> not doughy, and are much better than any pre-cooked and bagged
> >> tortillas from the bread aisle.
> >
> > Yer all wrong. Bad are the those labeled "no trans fats". Why? Cuz
> > they use vegetable oil or something equally lame healthy ingredient.
> > Good one's are those made with real manteca (lard). Almost impossible
> > to find, anymore.
> >
> > Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
> > a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
> > being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
> > matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
> > used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
> > the like.
> >
> > nb
>
> As I said... Would make no sense to try to make just one.

This puzzles me. You're happy to have a package of cooked, store bought
tortillas that you don't love the flavor of in your fridge waiting until
you want to eat one. But you don't want to make delicious ones and have
them sitting in your fridge until you want to eat one.

You know, you can refrigerate home made good ones, right?

While I will eat store corn tortillas, I cannot abide the store flour
ones. I've tried a bunch of brands and they are just not the same.
Mostly they have sugar in them and are just so oddly sweet.

marcella

"Marcella Peek" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2013-08-24, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>> >>
>> >> Good ones are the raw ones you buy in the refrigerated section. You
>> >> cook them in a hot pan for 30-45 seconds on each side. They are thin,
>> >> not doughy, and are much better than any pre-cooked and bagged
>> >> tortillas from the bread aisle.
>> >
>> > Yer all wrong. Bad are the those labeled "no trans fats". Why? Cuz
>> > they use vegetable oil or something equally lame healthy ingredient.
>> > Good one's are those made with real manteca (lard). Almost impossible
>> > to find, anymore.
>> >
>> > Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
>> > a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
>> > being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
>> > matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
>> > used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
>> > the like.
>> >
>> > nb
>>
>> As I said... Would make no sense to try to make just one.
>
> This puzzles me. You're happy to have a package of cooked, store bought
> tortillas that you don't love the flavor of in your fridge waiting until
> you want to eat one. But you don't want to make delicious ones and have
> them sitting in your fridge until you want to eat one.
>
> You know, you can refrigerate home made good ones, right?

I know but they won't be fresh and won't be as good. There is nothing wrong
with the flavor of the tortillas I buy. I never said anything about the
flavor.
>
> While I will eat store corn tortillas, I cannot abide the store flour
> ones. I've tried a bunch of brands and they are just not the same.
> Mostly they have sugar in them and are just so oddly sweet.

I have not noticed any sweet ones.

On 2013-08-24, Marcella Peek > wrote:
> This puzzles me. You're happy to have a package of cooked, store bought
> tortillas that you don't love the flavor of in your fridge waiting until
> you want to eat one. But you don't want to make delicious ones and have
> them sitting in your fridge until you want to eat one.

Simple time/distance. Caring for my mom, I'm lucky to get any cooking
done at all.

If life wasn't fun enough, what with my mom taking off her diaper,
peeing the bed, sleeping and rolling around in it, then putting the
diaper back on (sometime inside out) when she woke up, this morning
she added a new twist. Sometime during the night, she did her usual
remove diap/pee bed routine, then, not wanting to sleep in the wet
puddle, she found a pair of scissors and cut out the offending wet
spot from the sheet. Brand new fitted sheet with a 3 ft sqr hole cut
out from the middle. If it wasn't so frustrating, it woulda been
hilarious. Unfortunately, hilarity and cooking time are in painfully
short supply, these days. 8|

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-08-24, Marcella Peek > wrote:
>> This puzzles me. You're happy to have a package of cooked, store bought
>> tortillas that you don't love the flavor of in your fridge waiting until
>> you want to eat one. But you don't want to make delicious ones and have
>> them sitting in your fridge until you want to eat one.
>
> Simple time/distance. Caring for my mom, I'm lucky to get any cooking
> done at all.
>
> If life wasn't fun enough, what with my mom taking off her diaper,
> peeing the bed, sleeping and rolling around in it, then putting the
> diaper back on (sometime inside out) when she woke up, this morning
> she added a new twist. Sometime during the night, she did her usual
> remove diap/pee bed routine, then, not wanting to sleep in the wet
> puddle, she found a pair of scissors and cut out the offending wet
> spot from the sheet. Brand new fitted sheet with a 3 ft sqr hole cut
> out from the middle. If it wasn't so frustrating, it woulda been
> hilarious. Unfortunately, hilarity and cooking time are in painfully
> short supply, these days. 8|

Oh Did you not find a place in a home for her? So hard on you

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