On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:40:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.
>
> Don't have such a pan and it's a fine way to warm them up for bean tacos.
> >> >>
> >> >> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
> >> >
> >> > I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
> >> > brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
> >> > Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
> >> > if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
> >> > Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
> >> > blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
> >> > don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
> >> > with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
> >> > corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
> >>
> >> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
> >
> > So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
> > tortilla properly.
>
> They said they were doughy and that's what I don't want.

Let's recap: you heat tortillas in the microwave and rely on the word
of some TV talking head about what tortilla is "doughy". Why ask here
then? You obviously want miracles from the cheap cr*p you buy at
Walmart and Super Target and don't want to hear anything that
contradicts it what you heard on ATK.

Conclusion: You're wasting our time again.

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On 2013-08-25, jmcquown > wrote:

> nb, I don't know if this will help but it's a thought. I bought baby
> monitors, similar to this:

I have something similar, Jill. It's a motion detector that beeps a
remote beeper, which I keep by my sleeping place, whenever Mom
taverses the hallway from her bedroom to the bathroom to wake me at
night.

Right now I'm planning out a streaming video surveillance system where
I can visually monitor Mom via an online live video feed to a small
tablet computer on the internet. Looks doable from a Raspberry Pi
single board computer (SBC) + camera wifi'd thru my home LAN. We'll
see.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-08-25, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> nb, I don't know if this will help but it's a thought. I bought baby
>> monitors, similar to this:
>
> I have something similar, Jill. It's a motion detector that beeps a
> remote beeper, which I keep by my sleeping place, whenever Mom
> taverses the hallway from her bedroom to the bathroom to wake me at
> night.
>
> Right now I'm planning out a streaming video surveillance system where
> I can visually monitor Mom via an online live video feed to a small
> tablet computer on the internet. Looks doable from a Raspberry Pi
> single board computer (SBC) + camera wifi'd thru my home LAN. We'll
> see.

One day I am going to designate you as saint!

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On 25/08/2013 12:52 PM, notbob wrote:

> I have something similar, Jill. It's a motion detector that beeps a
> remote beeper, which I keep by my sleeping place, whenever Mom
> taverses the hallway from her bedroom to the bathroom to wake me at
> night.
>
> Right now I'm planning out a streaming video surveillance system where
> I can visually monitor Mom via an online live video feed to a small
> tablet computer on the internet. Looks doable from a Raspberry Pi
> single board computer (SBC) + camera wifi'd thru my home LAN. We'll
> see.
>
I have just come back from talking with my neighbour. Her parents live
next door to them on the other side. Her father has been slipping for
the last year or two. He has had several heart attacks and is suffering
from dementia. It has been hell for them, and especially for her
mother. The father does not sleep and he gets up and wanders around,
sometimes falls and can't get up. He doesn't recognize people, not even
his own family. She put kiddie locks on the door to keep him in his
room. He frequently needs shots of sub lingual nitro spray but they
can't get him to open his mouth and lift his tongue.

On 25 Aug 2013 12:32:48 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2013-08-25, Ophelia > wrote:
>>
>>
>> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 24 Aug 2013 19:13:55 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>>If it wasn't so frustrating, it woulda been hilarious.
>>>
>>> No, I don't see how that could EVER be funny in any way,
>>> and I'm very sorry for you both, having to deal with this
>>> situation.
>>
>> Yes
>
>When life hands you lemons, you make lemona..... well, yer all cooks,
>you know.
>
>Like I said, Mom has rebounded, somewhat, since her stroke in Mar.
>She even gave a little laugh, yesterday. Also, I got a used electric
>golf cart to both allow me to do little local chores quicker and to
>take her out and around during the cool afternoons to get some air/sun
>and interact with neighbors. She loves riding in the cart. In the
>end, it beats the horizontal mambo all to Hell. Fri was her
>birthday. She's 86.
>
>nb

You gotta bake her a cake.

On 8/24/2013 6:46 AM, notbob wrote:

> Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
> a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
> being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
> matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
> used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
> the like.

I thought Koko posted about making homemade tortillas not too long ago,
but it might have been on FB. I thought with her method, it was made
with a batter, not a dough. I could be wrong...

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On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 18:47:25 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 8/24/2013 6:46 AM, notbob wrote:
>
> > Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
> > a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
> > being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
> > matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
> > used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
> > the like.
>
> I thought Koko posted about making homemade tortillas not too long ago,
> but it might have been on FB. I thought with her method, it was made
> with a batter, not a dough. I could be wrong...

Flour tortillas are rolled, not poured.

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"bigwheel" > wrote in message
...
>
> 'Julie Bove[_2_ Wrote:
>> ;1859563']"bigwheel" wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> -
>> Havent ever got a good one from the store and very few Mexican
>> Restaurants have any that are worth a flip either. Now I have heard a
>> rumor of some good ones which can found in the frozen food section but
>> aint never tried em or recall the brand right now. They are very easy
>> to make at home with a bread machine on the dough setting.
>> Flour..salt..grease and water is all it takes.-
>>
>> Not in my bread machine. It only makes loaves of bread. And once
>> started,
>> it's locked until the bread is baked. No way to just knead a dough and
>> take
>> it out. But... I think it wouldn't be worth the time to try to make
>> the
>> dough to make one measly tortilla at a time.
>>
>> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
>> The
>> only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then you
>> have
>> to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen state.
>
> Never heard of a bread machine like you got. Maybe you could just unplug
> it and dump out the raw dough before it started cooking itself? Sure you
> could do the same thing with a KA Mixer with a dough hook. Anything to
> try to save all the hand kneading by the cute mamacita. I use 3 cups
> flour which makes about 12 pretty good sized torts. Thanks for the heads
> up on the frozen models. Knew there was likely some reason I had not
> bought any of those.

Unplugging it won't help. It won't unplug when unlocked. It's old and it
was cheap. And I don't have a KA mixer. I do have a Bosch. But I prefer
to mix by hand for most things.

> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
>
I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand as the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all white.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:40:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.
>>
>> Don't have such a pan and it's a fine way to warm them up for bean tacos.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
>> >> > brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
>> >> > Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be
>> >> > fine
>> >> > if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
>> >> > Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
>> >> > blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but
>> >> > I
>> >> > don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
>> >> > with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla
>> >> > Factory
>> >> > corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
>> >>
>> >> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>> >
>> > So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
>> > tortilla properly.
>>
>> They said they were doughy and that's what I don't want.
>
> Let's recap: you heat tortillas in the microwave and rely on the word
> of some TV talking head about what tortilla is "doughy". Why ask here
> then? You obviously want miracles from the cheap cr*p you buy at
> Walmart and Super Target and don't want to hear anything that
> contradicts it what you heard on ATK.

I don't buy groceries at Walmart. Our Walmart doesn't have a full grocery.
When they first opened the the grocery section, we did buy a very few select
things. But they no longer carry those things. I might go to Walmart once
or twice a year. But not for groceries.

I do believe it when they said that the Mission tortillas were doughy
because I have since bought some others that were indeed doughy. And
someone else here (sw?) said that the Mission were no good.

We also don't have a Super Target and AFAIK I have never been in one. So
you don't know what you are talking about.

Also... Re-read my subject. It says: What makes a good flour tortilla. I
was not necessarily asking what brands were good. I was asking what people
here think are qualities of a good tortilla. Apparently for you and some
others, doughy is good. Although I suppose I wouldn't mind the doughy so
much if I were to eat it plain either as is or with butter or margarine, it
is not what I want for a burrito or soft taco.
>
> Conclusion: You're wasting our time again.

No. You are wasting *my* time. You didn't even answer the question. For
me? I don't want a tortilla that is overly thick. Neither do I want one
that is so thin that it rips. And I happen to love the wheat and corn ones
so you and I do not look for the same things in a tortilla just like we do
not look for the same things in a burrito.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 8/24/2013 6:46 AM, notbob wrote:
>
>> Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
>> a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
>> being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
>> matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
>> used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
>> the like.
>
> I thought Koko posted about making homemade tortillas not too long ago,
> but it might have been on FB. I thought with her method, it was made with
> a batter, not a dough. I could be wrong...

Interesting! As I said, I did make them many years ago with Bisquick. At
the time they seemed perfectly fine. I also made my own corn ones, grinding
canned, drained hominy to do so. A big PITA but again at the time, the end
results were good. In those days I don't even think we could buy tortillas
in the grocery store, or if they were available, I did not know of them. We
did get the hard taco shells from time to time. So I would try to recreate
the Mexican food I loved at home, using whatever ingredients we had in the
cupboard and amazingly I found recipes that contained those foods.

I did check on the ones I mentioned and I got the name wrong. It is Surito
and not Surita. Made by La Mexicano in Seattle. Very good!

http://www.lamexicana.com/LM/Home.html

There is also a place in Everett that makes fresh corn tortillas that are
excellent. I can't remember the name or where they are located but I was
told this by a restaurant owner. But since I am usually the only person in
the house who eats tortillas and I don't eat them every day, I doubt I could
use up the fresh ones before they went bad. I've been told that the corn
ones need to be purchased a couple of times a week but then the person who
told me this uses a ton more of them than I would. They might possibly do
other kinds of tortillas there. Not sure. This restaurant has a lot of
options, including low carb.

> wrote in message
...
>
>> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>>
>>
> I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand as
> the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all
> white.

Thanks! I checked the fridge last night and what I have in whole wheat is
Old El Paso. Not sure where I got them and the package isn't open so we
haven't tried them yet.

All I know is.....I buy the ones in the fridge section vs. the ones on the dry aisle shelves. I figure they have fewer preservatives. I like the ziplock bag and they last for weeks if not months in my crisper drawer. I like the jumbo size - they make for easier folding or rolling. I think the last I bought were made in Miami....or Texas....or.......somewhere....

I knew of a tortilleria set for a movie and they never removed the signage. For ages, ppl were banging on the door of an empty building, trying to get the product or a job maybe. So much for Hollywood cleaning up after themselves. I often wonder about those burning cars careening off cliffs.

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:11:14 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>
> On the plus side, she and her husband have a lot more free time since
>
> the mother died. She no longer has to cook and clean for a dozen guests
>
> every day. As far as she is concerned, it's good riddance to them.

Yeah, and I bet the mother left the pie split 14 ways too. No wonder sibs stop talking to each other after a parent goes. I've seen it happen countless times.

On 8/25/2013 1:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 25/08/2013 12:52 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>> I have something similar, Jill. It's a motion detector that beeps a
>> remote beeper, which I keep by my sleeping place, whenever Mom
>> taverses the hallway from her bedroom to the bathroom to wake me at
>> night.
>>
>> Right now I'm planning out a streaming video surveillance system where
>> I can visually monitor Mom via an online live video feed to a small
>> tablet computer on the internet. Looks doable from a Raspberry Pi
>> single board computer (SBC) + camera wifi'd thru my home LAN. We'll
>> see.
>>
> I have just come back from talking with my neighbour. Her parents live
> next door to them on the other side. Her father has been slipping for
> the last year or two. He has had several heart attacks and is suffering
> from dementia. It has been hell for them, and especially for her
> mother. The father does not sleep and he gets up and wanders around,
> sometimes falls and can't get up. He doesn't recognize people, not even
> his own family. She put kiddie locks on the door to keep him in his
> room. He frequently needs shots of sub lingual nitro spray but they
> can't get him to open his mouth and lift his tongue.
>
It's very sad. And every case is different. My father would gobble
Tylenol PM like it was candy. We had to hide it from him. (Oddly
enough it didn't make him sleepy; he still wandered around during the
night, but not outside, thank goodness!)

Before I came here for the long haul in 2008, I visited for a week at
the end of 2007. I had cooked dinner and we were eating. I mentioned I
was going back to Memphis the next day. He exclaimed, "Memphis! I have
a son in Memphis!" <sigh> "Yes, I know. He's my brother." Until that
visit my mother had not admitted to herself just how bad off he was.

Jill

On 8/25/2013 12:12 AM, The Other Guy wrote:

> On 24 Aug 2013 19:13:55 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> If it wasn't so frustrating, it woulda been hilarious.
>
> No, I don't see how that could EVER be funny in any way,
> and I'm very sorry for you both, having to deal with this
> situation.
>
Same here -- that has to be very hard physically and emotionally. Even
if she can't express it, I'm sure your mom is happy to have you to take
care of her.

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On 8/25/2013 8:15 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> All I know is.....I buy the ones in the fridge section vs. the ones on the dry aisle shelves. I figure they have fewer preservatives.
I like the ziplock bag and they last for weeks if not months in my
crisper drawer.

Uh, what? Fewer preservatives, therefor they last for months?! That
doesn't make much sense.

Please stop using Google Groups. There is no line wrapping and replying
to your posts really sucks.

Jill

Ok well knead it by hand. You could grow up to be famous.

On Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:19:57 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/25/2013 1:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 25/08/2013 12:52 PM, notbob wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> I have something similar, Jill. It's a motion detector that beeps a
>
> >> remote beeper, which I keep by my sleeping place, whenever Mom
>
> >> taverses the hallway from her bedroom to the bathroom to wake me at
>
> >> night.
>
> >>
>
> >> Right now I'm planning out a streaming video surveillance system where
>
> >> I can visually monitor Mom via an online live video feed to a small
>
> >> tablet computer on the internet. Looks doable from a Raspberry Pi
>
> >> single board computer (SBC) + camera wifi'd thru my home LAN. We'll
>
> >> see.
>
> >>
>
> > I have just come back from talking with my neighbour. Her parents live
>
> > next door to them on the other side. Her father has been slipping for
>
> > the last year or two. He has had several heart attacks and is suffering
>
> > from dementia. It has been hell for them, and especially for her
>
> > mother. The father does not sleep and he gets up and wanders around,
>
> > sometimes falls and can't get up. He doesn't recognize people, not even
>
> > his own family. She put kiddie locks on the door to keep him in his
>
> > room. He frequently needs shots of sub lingual nitro spray but they
>
> > can't get him to open his mouth and lift his tongue.
>
> >
>
> It's very sad. And every case is different. My father would gobble
>
> Tylenol PM like it was candy. We had to hide it from him. (Oddly
>
> enough it didn't make him sleepy; he still wandered around during the
>
> night, but not outside, thank goodness!)
>
>
>
> Before I came here for the long haul in 2008, I visited for a week at
>
> the end of 2007. I had cooked dinner and we were eating. I mentioned I
>
> was going back to Memphis the next day. He exclaimed, "Memphis! I have
>
> a son in Memphis!" <sigh> "Yes, I know. He's my brother." Until that
>
> visit my mother had not admitted to herself just how bad off he was.
>
No cognitively impaired person should ever be allowed access to a bottle of acetaminophen.
>
> Jill

--Bryan O|O

On 2013-08-25, Ophelia > wrote:

> One day I am going to designate you as saint!

Don't canonize me quite yet. I'm still jes a human and the anguish
and frustration of my charge too often reduces me to an angry
resentful mortal who is not above emotionally lashing out,
occasionally, much to my regret and dismay. I'm certainly no saint.
But, I thank you kindly, Ophelia. I don't get many atta'boy's
directed my way, these days.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-08-25, Ophelia > wrote:
>
>> One day I am going to designate you as saint!
>
> Don't canonize me quite yet. I'm still jes a human and the anguish
> and frustration of my charge too often reduces me to an angry
> resentful mortal who is not above emotionally lashing out,
> occasionally, much to my regret and dismay. I'm certainly no saint.
> But, I thank you kindly, Ophelia. I don't get many atta'boy's
> directed my way, these days.

Given the way you take care of your mother you deserve any Atta'boy's that
come your way!
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On Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:15:14 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
>
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> > >
>
> > > "Gary" > wrote in message
>
> > > ...
>
> > >> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Try Carlita brand. I like their tortillas (and their salsa)
>
> > >>
>
> > >> G.
>
> > >
>
> > > Is that the new Albertsons brand? If so, I tried the refried beans. They
>
> > > were fine but I can get cheaper.
>
> >
>
> > But do you want good or do you want cheap? <g>
>
>
>
> She said she wanted good. I like that brand and they *are* cheaper
>
> than most with all of their products.
>
Carlita is a SuperValu brand, some of which are really good.
The Java Delight Sumatra coffee is really nice, and relatively inexpensive.
The Culinary Circle frozen pizzas are a pretty good knockoff of Palermo's.
The Whole Care Pet clumping cat litter is every bit as good as any name
brand, and when I saw this idiot in line at the grocery store with the name brand stuff, I told him that. He said that he was just getting what his
wife told him to get. I hope those two don't reproduce, and further filthy
up the gene pool like Julie did.
>
> G.

--Bryan O|O

On 8/25/2013 4:57 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 18:47:25 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2013 6:46 AM, notbob wrote:
>>
>>> Make yer own. Only requires flour, salt, lard, water. Roll out with
>>> a 1-1/2" dowel. As for "doughy", real flour tortillas ARE doughy,
>>> being rolled out from a --duh-- "dough"! Also, if made properly, it
>>> matter not a wit whether they are thick or thin. Thin is handy when
>>> used as a wrap, thick when used as a scoop, with frijoles, stews, or
>>> the like.
>>
>> I thought Koko posted about making homemade tortillas not too long ago,
>> but it might have been on FB. I thought with her method, it was made
>> with a batter, not a dough. I could be wrong...
>
> Flour tortillas are rolled, not poured.
>

Lol, same with naan...

On 8/23/2013 7:52 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?

The ones that come fresh-made straight from a local tortilleria!

On 8/27/2013 4:43 AM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
> I hope those two don't reproduce, and further filthy
> up the gene pool like Julie did.


You're not a flint-strike's nicer than the last time I was here...

On 8/24/2013 2:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
> The only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then
> you have to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen
> state.

Not so.

You can use a butter knife to get between them and lever off what you wish.

We buy fresh in bulk, freeze, and re-use later.

In that method you can also put a sheet of wax paper between them and
pack 4-6 at a time in a ziplock to freeze.

They reheat brilliantly when thawed by passing them over an open gas flame.

On 8/24/2013 9:26 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> While I will eat store corn tortillas, I cannot abide the store flour
> ones. I've tried a bunch of brands and they are just not the same.
> Mostly they have sugar in them and are just so oddly sweet.
>
> marcella

Unless you're in the southwest it's tough to find a store brand worth
buying.

We have them here, but they're only local product packaged for the
supermarkets.

On 8/24/2013 1:51 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:12:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:52:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I saw on an Episode of Cooks Country that the Mission ones were bad.
>>>> Really
>>>> doughy. I have not bought those before but I have bought the whole wheat
>>>> ones which we are not thrilled with but they are edible.
>>>
>>> Cook's Country is fill with white people who probably don't know how
>>> to heat a tortilla properly. It's not going to be any good if you
>>> heat it in the microwave.
>>>>
>>>> Then a few weeks ago I bought some brand I had never heard of for 99
>>>> cents
>>>> at Winco. Horrible things! They were also doughy and they all stuck
>>>> together. I could not get one out. I could get three though. Or parts
>>>> of
>>>> three. Never did get a whole one.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought the Market Pantry kind from Target. First time, same bag
>>>> problem as the Surita. I tried them again and while okay they too are a
>>>> little doughy.
>>>
>>> How do you warm your tortillas?
>>
>> Microwave.
>>>>
>
> That's an awful way to warm them up. Do it in a dry cast iron pan.

Now that's my second favorite method, after using an open gas burner.

The little char from an open flame is magical.

>>>>
>>>> So... I know what bad ones are. But what are good ones?
>>>
>>> I don't grocery shop at Walmart or Super Target, so I don't buy off
>>> brands and AFAIC all the major brands at the grocery store are fine.
>>> Choose one from the tortilla display on the end cap and you'll be fine
>>> if you have a clue how to heat up tortillas properly. La Tortilla
>>> Factory makes very good flour tortillas, but I hate their corn/wheat
>>> blend. I like corn tortillas and I like (white) wheat tortillas but I
>>> don't like corn/wheat tortillas. There's absolutely nothing wrong
>>> with Mission brand either. At the moment, I have La Tortilla Factory
>>> corn and Calidad flour tortillas in my refrigerator.
>>
>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>
> So what? There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to heat a
> tortilla properly.
>
They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!

On 8/25/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>>
>>
> I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand as the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all white.
>
All their food products are eastern seaboard primarily.

That can be a problem out west.

"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/24/2013 2:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
>> The only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then
>> you have to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen
>> state.
>
> Not so.
>
> You can use a butter knife to get between them and lever off what you
> wish.

The frozen ones we have tried will break if you try that.
>
> We buy fresh in bulk, freeze, and re-use later.
>
> In that method you can also put a sheet of wax paper between them and pack
> 4-6 at a time in a ziplock to freeze.
>
If you have the freezer space. Which we do not.

> They reheat brilliantly when thawed by passing them over an open gas
> flame.

Don't have that either.

"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/25/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>>>
>>>
>> I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso brand
>> as the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were probably all
>> white.
>>
> All their food products are eastern seaboard primarily.
>
> That can be a problem out west.

I was mistaken. I thought that was what my whole wheat ones were. Nope.
They are Don Pancho. They're fine.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!

That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!
>
> That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
> really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.

I don't know of any here. There is one in Everett but I generally have no
need to get out that way.

On 8/27/2013 3:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "casa contenta" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/24/2013 2:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I have tried frozen tortillas but I dislike such things when frozen.
>>> The only way to really make them work is to defrost them all and then
>>> you have to use them all. You can't really take one out from the frozen
>>> state.
>>
>> Not so.
>>
>> You can use a butter knife to get between them and lever off what you
>> wish.
>
> The frozen ones we have tried will break if you try that.

Indeed, they don't sell those here, too much fresh available.

>>
>> We buy fresh in bulk, freeze, and re-use later.
>>
>> In that method you can also put a sheet of wax paper between them and
>> pack 4-6 at a time in a ziplock to freeze.
>>
> If you have the freezer space. Which we do not.

I recall you mentioning a freezer outage before.

>
>> They reheat brilliantly when thawed by passing them over an open gas
>> flame.
>
> Don't have that either.

Gas grill does the trick also.

On 8/27/2013 3:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "casa contenta" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/25/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/24/2013 2:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mission came out as the lowest ranking on America's Test Kitchen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I saw that episode and the audience taste panel chose Old El Paso
>>> brand as the best store bought flour tortilla. And yes, they were
>>> probably all white.
>>>
>> All their food products are eastern seaboard primarily.
>>
>> That can be a problem out west.
>
> I was mistaken. I thought that was what my whole wheat ones were.
> Nope. They are Don Pancho. They're fine.

That's another one we don't see here!

On 8/27/2013 5:38 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!
>
> That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
> really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.
>
If you've good Mexican restaurants many times they'll sell a lot of
things in bulk. Here you can get corn and flour tortillas, many salsas,
beans, rice - almost the entire meal!

"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...

> Gas grill does the trick also.

We don't grill.

"casa contenta" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/27/2013 5:38 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>>
>>> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!
>>
>> That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
>> really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.
>>
> If you've good Mexican restaurants many times they'll sell a lot of things
> in bulk. Here you can get corn and flour tortillas, many salsas, beans,
> rice - almost the entire meal!

I only know of one restaurant that sold tortillas and that was Chevy's. I
would not say that they were good and I don't recall their tortillas being
outstanding although they were made in house.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:46:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:

> On 8/27/2013 5:38 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> >
> >> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!
> >
> > That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
> > really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.
> >
> If you've good Mexican restaurants many times they'll sell a lot of
> things in bulk. Here you can get corn and flour tortillas, many salsas,
> beans, rice - almost the entire meal!

No restaurant makes their own tortillas around here. Chevy's had a
mechanical tortilla maker and I don't care what anyone says about
Chevy's - they made great tortillas.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:34:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "casa contenta" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 8/27/2013 5:38 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:30:26 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> >>
> >>> They can not even begin to compare to freshly made from a tortilleria!
> >>
> >> That's not an option for most people. We only have one in town, but
> >> really - all they produce on the premises is handmade.
> >>
> > If you've good Mexican restaurants many times they'll sell a lot of things
> > in bulk. Here you can get corn and flour tortillas, many salsas, beans,
> > rice - almost the entire meal!
>
> I only know of one restaurant that sold tortillas and that was Chevy's. I
> would not say that they were good and I don't recall their tortillas being
> outstanding although they were made in house.

You have to either be splitting hairs or not know what you're talking
about to dis their tortillas.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.