The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.

The other thing that bugs me is that she is using what I would call a dry
rub and calling it a marinade. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I always thought
that a marinade was a liquid.

Who is right?

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
>The other thing that bugs me is that she is using what I would call a dry
>rub and calling it a marinade. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I always thought
>that a marinade was a liquid.
>
>Who is right?

Both wrong, it's mahr-in-Aid:
http://media.merriam-webster.com/sou...m/marina02.wav

What I find annoying is when people confuse marinade(noun) with
marinate(verb).

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>
> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>
> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>
> them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
>
>
>

No more annoying than your fragmented style of writing. A phrase or word. At a time. Followed with non sequiturs. And then maybe a comment. About stuff you can't recall. But think you do. And ....and....maybe you should take a lesson. On snipping.

I have never plonked anyone, but I'm approaching a first.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>>to
>>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>>
>>The other thing that bugs me is that she is using what I would call a dry
>>rub and calling it a marinade. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I always
>>thought
>>that a marinade was a liquid.
>>
>>Who is right?
>
> Both wrong, it's mahr-in-Aid:
> http://media.merriam-webster.com/sou...m/marina02.wav
>
> What I find annoying is when people confuse marinade(noun) with
> marinate(verb).

That too.

Me, too, Shel...how can they not hear/know the difference?

N.

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:27:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.

I've heard it pronounced the way Martha says it (mar-uh-nahd), and
Sara Moulton says it the same way. I've never heard mar-UH-neyd, which
you claim to be the correct pronunciation, but I have heard
MAR-uh-neyd. I think it's a regional thing, and I'm guessing that your
preferred pronunciation is a US thing.

How do you pronounce chiffonade? Or remoulade?

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:27:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>>to
>>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
> I've heard it pronounced the way Martha says it (mar-uh-nahd), and
> Sara Moulton says it the same way. I've never heard mar-UH-neyd, which
> you claim to be the correct pronunciation, but I have heard
> MAR-uh-neyd. I think it's a regional thing, and I'm guessing that your
> preferred pronunciation is a US thing.
>
> How do you pronounce chiffonade? Or remoulade?

I can't say that I've ever said "remoulade" or even know what it means.f
And I rarely use the word "chiffonade" I guess I would say shiff-uh-neyd.
But dictionary.com says that "nahd" is secondary.

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>
> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>
> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>
> them mar-UH-neyd.

Hey Bove, I doubt that they show the 'uh' as the accented syllable. Go back and look again.

"Doris Night" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:27:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according to
>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.

I've heard it pronounced the way Martha says it (mar-uh-nahd), and
Sara Moulton says it the same way. I've never heard mar-UH-neyd, which
you claim to be the correct pronunciation, but I have heard
MAR-uh-neyd. I think it's a regional thing, and I'm guessing that your
preferred pronunciation is a US thing.

How do you pronounce chiffonade? Or remoulade?

Doris

~~~~~~~
I pronounce it MAR-uh-neyd (grew up in Northeast Ohio, USA). Martha's
pronunciation sounds like it might be New England. I have never heard it
pronounced the way Julie claims is correct, so I checked a couple of the
online audio pronouncing dictionaries. Both of them used MAR-uh-neyd for
"American" pronunciation (although I think it's difficult to find one
"American" pronunciation for a great many words, given geographical
differences).

MaryL

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times
>> I
>>
>> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>
>> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>> to
>>
>> them mar-UH-neyd.
>
> Hey Bove, I doubt that they show the 'uh' as the accented syllable. Go
> back and look again.

Oops. Sorry. Either the first or the last.

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Doris Night" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:27:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>>to
>>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
> I've heard it pronounced the way Martha says it (mar-uh-nahd), and
> Sara Moulton says it the same way. I've never heard mar-UH-neyd, which
> you claim to be the correct pronunciation, but I have heard
> MAR-uh-neyd. I think it's a regional thing, and I'm guessing that your
> preferred pronunciation is a US thing.
>
> How do you pronounce chiffonade? Or remoulade?
>
> Doris
>
> ~~~~~~~
> I pronounce it MAR-uh-neyd (grew up in Northeast Ohio, USA). Martha's
> pronunciation sounds like it might be New England. I have never heard it
> pronounced the way Julie claims is correct, so I checked a couple of the
> online audio pronouncing dictionaries. Both of them used MAR-uh-neyd for
> "American" pronunciation (although I think it's difficult to find one
> "American" pronunciation for a great many words, given geographical
> differences).

Sorry. I put the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Should be the first or
the last.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:27:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times I
>>have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>>to
>>them mar-UH-neyd. And that is how I always said it.
>
> I've heard it pronounced the way Martha says it (mar-uh-nahd), and
> Sara Moulton says it the same way. I've never heard mar-UH-neyd, which
> you claim to be the correct pronunciation, but I have heard
> MAR-uh-neyd. I think it's a regional thing, and I'm guessing that your
> preferred pronunciation is a US thing.
>
> How do you pronounce chiffonade? Or remoulade?
>
Et Notre Dame aussi!
Graham

For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.

http://www.richardfisher.com

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times
>> I
>>
>> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>
>> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>> to
>>
>> them mar-UH-neyd.
>
> Hey Bove, I doubt that they show the 'uh' as the accented syllable. Go
> back and look again.

Hey Bove????? Ahhh such breeding and innate courtesy.

Ugly!

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"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made
> with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you
> sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>


+1

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
ones.

--
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On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:44:24 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person wrote:
>
> > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with
> > beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get
> > bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
> I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
> argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
> shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
> you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
> ones.

No need to give lots of examples. (Yes, we do have lots of shepherds who now
herd goats and cows, not to mention the cottages that herd lambs.) After all,
you are one of the most vociferous advocates of ignoring incorrect recipe
descriptions.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:05:04 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:44:24 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person wrote:
> >
> > > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made with
> > > beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you sure get
> > > bent out of shape over regional accents.
> >
> > I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
> > argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
> > shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
> > you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
> > ones.
>
> No need to give lots of examples. (Yes, we do have lots of shepherds who now
> herd goats and cows, not to mention the cottages that herd lambs.) After all,
> you are one of the most vociferous advocates of ignoring incorrect recipe
> descriptions.
>
Incorrect seems to be in the eye of the beholder and some of you
people are quite vociferous about being unable to think outside the
box.


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On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:01:59 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>
> Incorrect seems to be in the eye of the beholder and some of you
> people are quite vociferous about being unable to think outside the
> box.
>
>
Using the incorrect description is not thinking outside the box. It is lack of knowledge. Insisting that you are correct is lack of eduction. Continuing rigidly with the same ideas is pig hardheadedness.

Enough said.

http://www.richardfisher.com

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:01:59 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>>
>> Incorrect seems to be in the eye of the beholder and some of you
>> people are quite vociferous about being unable to think outside the
>> box.
>>
>>
> Using the incorrect description is not thinking outside the box. It is
> lack of knowledge. Insisting that you are correct is lack of eduction.
> Continuing rigidly with the same ideas is pig hardheadedness.
>
> Enough said.
>


not quite enough. If definitions wax and wane, communication becomes more
difficult.

On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
> made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
> pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.

My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.

On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:03:39 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.

Enough said. However, it's becoming really difficult to find genuine old fashioned ploughs for the traditional ploughman's lunch.

http://www.richardfisher.com

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Kalmia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times
>>> I
>>>
>>> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>>
>>> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>>> to
>>>
>>> them mar-UH-neyd.
>>
>> Hey Bove, I doubt that they show the 'uh' as the accented syllable. Go
>> back and look again.
>
> Hey Bove????? Ahhh such breeding and innate courtesy.
>
> Ugly!

I did type it wrong but still... Never heard anyone else say the last
syllable like that.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
>> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made
>> with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you
>> sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>>
> I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
> argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
> shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
> you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
> ones.

Actually, I make Shepard's pie with beef and I'm complaining about her
accent. She says it in such a superior way.

On 8/5/2013 6:24 PM, barbie gee wrote:
>

>
> I think that the "-nahd" crowd is trying to frenchie French it up, is all.
>
>




Gahd forbid you should pronounce a French word in the original style!

gloria p

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:22:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be made
> >> with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage pie you
> >> sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
> >>
> > I think you're lumping everyone together and trying to make an
> > argument where there is none. The group that says it's okay to make
> > shepherd's pie with beef (we say lamb is fine to use, if that's all
> > you've got) isn't complaining about her accent. We're the tolerant
> > ones.
>
> Actually, I make Shepard's pie with beef and I'm complaining about her
> accent. She says it in such a superior way.
>
It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
cah by Bahston Yahrd.

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On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:03:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
> > made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
> > pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>
> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.

Heaven's, Dave. You wouldn't know, you're Canadian!

Whoever it is that objects obviously also thinks there's only one
accent/dialect in the UK and everybody does everything *exactly* the
same way over there.

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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:03:39 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> > Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
> > and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
> > the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
> > only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
> > grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
>
> Enough said. However, it's becoming really difficult to find genuine old fashioned ploughs for the traditional ploughman's lunch.
>
As if anyone over here cares.

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sf wrote:
> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> cah by Bahston Yahrd.

I do know that after living on Cape Cod.

On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:

> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> cah by Bahston Yahrd.
>
Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
definitely _not_ the local accent.

In article >,
Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Kalmia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:27:45 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> The woman is driving me nuts with this! I can't tell you how many times
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> have heard her pronounce the word. She says it like mar-uh-NOD. I just
>>>>
>>>> looked at dictionary.com and that's not correct. It should be according
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> them mar-UH-neyd.
>>>
>>> Hey Bove, I doubt that they show the 'uh' as the accented syllable. Go
>>> back and look again.
>>
>> Hey Bove????? Ahhh such breeding and innate courtesy.
>>
>> Ugly!
>
>I did type it wrong but still... Never heard anyone else say the last
>syllable like that.

Not here in Michigan.

Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.

I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.

Cindy Hamilton
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:39:31 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
> > cah by Bahston Yahrd.
> >
> Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
> definitely _not_ the local accent.

So what? I have a "California accent" now and my sister sounds like
she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
a very distinctive regional accent.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...

>>I did type it wrong but still... Never heard anyone else say the last
>>syllable like that.
>
> Not here in Michigan.
>
> Christopher Kimball on America's Test Kitchen pronounces it mar-uh-NOD.
>
> I find it pretentious coming out of his mouth.

I suppose every place says it differently yes? We say Mar -in - ayd. How
do you say it?
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On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 22:50:49 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:03:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>> On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>> > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
>> > made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
>> > pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>>
>> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
>> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
>> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
>> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
>> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
>> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
>
>Heaven's, Dave. You wouldn't know, you're Canadian!
>
>Whoever it is that objects obviously also thinks there's only one
>accent/dialect in the UK and everybody does everything *exactly* the
>same way over there.

Let's see, there's an objection to how Martha Stewart pronounces
Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
(chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
Have I forgotten any?
Janet US

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:04:35 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 22:50:49 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:03:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> >> > For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
> >> > made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
> >> > pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
> >>
> >> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
> >> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
> >> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
> >> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
> >> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
> >> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
> >
> >Heaven's, Dave. You wouldn't know, you're Canadian!
> >
> >Whoever it is that objects obviously also thinks there's only one
> >accent/dialect in the UK and everybody does everything *exactly* the
> >same way over there.
>
> Let's see, there's an objection to how Martha Stewart pronounces
> Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
> (chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
> pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
> Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
> Have I forgotten any?

Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...

> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.

He speaks with a London accent He also has a 'short tongue' which makes
him kinda lisp a bit

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On 06/08/2013 1:50 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:03:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 05/08/2013 7:10 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>> For a group that thinks nothing in claiming shepherd's pie can be
>>> made with beef and refuses to acknowledge the ingredients of cottage
>>> pie you sure get bent out of shape over regional accents.
>>
>> My paternal grandmother was born and raised in England and she made
>> Shepherd's pie with beef. My maternal grandmother had mostly Scottish
>> and Irish ancestry and her Shepherds pie was made with beef. Apparently
>> the terms Shepherds Pie and Cottage pie are interchangeable ant it is
>> only recently that some people started differentiating it. But, I only
>> grew up Shepherds Pie (with beef) almost every week, so what would I know.
>
> Heaven's, Dave. You wouldn't know, you're Canadian!

?? I qualified it with reference to my English, Scottish and Irish
heritage, all of whom frequently cooked Shepherd's Pie, always made with
beef.

> Whoever it is that objects obviously also thinks there's only one
> accent/dialect in the UK and everybody does everything *exactly* the
> same way over there.

It is curious that most of those who insist that Shepherds Pie be made
with lamb live in the land where movie goers raved over the move
Brokeback Mountain and always refer to the central characters as
cowboys. In this neck of the woods, those guys would be called shepherds.

On 06/08/2013 10:17 AM, sf wrote:

>> Let's see, there's an objection to how Martha Stewart pronounces
>> Marinade. A previous objection to how Bobby Flay pronounces chipotle
>> (chi-po-t-ley), and an objection to how what's-his-name in California
>> pronounces cilantro (cil-lan-thro) Oh, and, frequent objections to
>> Giada de Laurentis using Italian pronunciation for Italian food items.
>> Have I forgotten any?
>
> Yes, my objection to Jamie Oliver's speech impediment. He sounds like
> he has a mouth full of marbles (which some here claim is a regional
> accent). It's like listening to fingernails on a blackboard (or
> worse, squeaking a balloon) to me. I can't hear his message because
> it's too hard to get past his mush mouthed enunciation.
>


If he ever gets into the chef Olympics maybe he should qualify for the
Special Olympics? I can handle is accent and his lisp. I used to have
trouble with his enthusiasm. He was would a little too tight for my
liking. He seems to have toned it down a bit.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
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> On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
>> cah by Bahston Yahrd.
>>
> Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
> definitely _not_ the local accent.

I don't know where her hometown is but she said it again on the show that I
just watched.

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:39:31 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2013 1:47 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>> > It's just some kind of Eastern regional accent. No biggie. Pahk the
>> > cah by Bahston Yahrd.
>> >
>> Martha Stewart? I've spent a lot of time in her hometown, and that's
>> definitely _not_ the local accent.
>
> So what? I have a "California accent" now and my sister sounds like
> she was born & raised where she lives in central Wisconsin, which has
> a very distinctive regional accent.

Uh... What is a California accent?