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I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the link!
I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at OSP/Brylane Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order it, the link was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also ordered this: http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any more. I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed to reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the microwave, the container I use gets too hot. I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a rounded shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other things too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out my smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I would if I were to make the same meal. |
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On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the link! > I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at OSP/Brylane > Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order it, the link > was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also ordered this: > > http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 > > So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It > occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any more. > I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed to > reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I > rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the > microwave, the container I use gets too hot. > > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like > they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two > Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a rounded > shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old > Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other things > too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out my > smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. > > Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I > realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot > but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I > would if I were to make the same meal. > > I've got lots of expensive pans I haven't used for years. A cheap 1-qt Revere pan and a cheap iron skillet with a silicone cover (fries and bakes) would handle almost everything. (I've even melted the copper on the pan, but when I've overheated it, a couple of hammer taps will get it to sit flat.) If I overheat the skillet, I can season it with linseed oil. When my microwave failed, I decided I was better off without one. Now my cheap 6-qt aluminum pressure cooker has become my favorite. Because it can take advantage of a full-size burner and the aluminum spreads the heat well, it will heat a given amount of food faster than most pans, with no stirring. The pressure ensures that everything gets hot and minimizes the heat and humidity in the kitchen. For some purposes there's no need to come up to full temperature. It's light and easy to clean. Unlike a microwave, my pans don't have timers. For that, I have a digital beeper on the side of the refrigerator. |
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![]() "j Burns" > wrote in message ... > On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the >> link! >> I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at >> OSP/Brylane >> Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order it, the >> link >> was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also ordered >> this: >> >> http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 >> >> So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It >> occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any >> more. >> I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed >> to >> reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I >> rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the >> microwave, the container I use gets too hot. >> >> I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware >> like >> they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two >> Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a >> rounded >> shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old >> Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other >> things >> too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out >> my >> smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. >> >> Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I >> realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot >> but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I >> would if I were to make the same meal. >> >> > I've got lots of expensive pans I haven't used for years. A cheap 1-qt > Revere pan and a cheap iron skillet with a silicone cover (fries and > bakes) would handle almost everything. (I've even melted the copper on > the pan, but when I've overheated it, a couple of hammer taps will get it > to sit flat.) If I overheat the skillet, I can season it with linseed > oil. When my microwave failed, I decided I was better off without one. > > Now my cheap 6-qt aluminum pressure cooker has become my favorite. Because > it can take advantage of a full-size burner and the aluminum spreads the > heat well, it will heat a given amount of food faster than most pans, with > no stirring. The pressure ensures that everything gets hot and minimizes > the heat and humidity in the kitchen. For some purposes there's no need > to come up to full temperature. It's light and easy to clean. > > Unlike a microwave, my pans don't have timers. For that, I have a digital > beeper on the side of the refrigerator. Hmmm... They were showing a pressure cooker on HSN the other day. It did look tempting but I'm just not sure I would get enough use out of it to justify the space it would take up. |
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On 7/25/13 11:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Hmmm... They were showing a pressure cooker on HSN the other day. It did > look tempting but I'm just not sure I would get enough use out of it to > justify the space it would take up. It looks as if you'd pay $34 with shipping. Amazon will send it to you for under $27. HSN says the manufacturer's warranty is 1 month. The Presto warranty is 12 years. Thanks for reminding me about shelf space. It's high time for me to put most of that expensive stuff in boxes and get it out of the kitchen. Then I can put my pressure cooker on a different shelf every day! I'll keep my 5-quart and my 11-quart pots in the kitchen. For stained shirts and kitchen towels, simmering with sodium percarbonate works great! |
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![]() "j Burns" > wrote in message ... > On 7/25/13 11:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> Hmmm... They were showing a pressure cooker on HSN the other day. It >> did >> look tempting but I'm just not sure I would get enough use out of it to >> justify the space it would take up. > > It looks as if you'd pay $34 with shipping. Amazon will send it to you > for under $27. HSN says the manufacturer's warranty is 1 month. The > Presto warranty is 12 years. > > Thanks for reminding me about shelf space. It's high time for me to put > most of that expensive stuff in boxes and get it out of the kitchen. Then > I can put my pressure cooker on a different shelf every day! > > I'll keep my 5-quart and my 11-quart pots in the kitchen. For stained > shirts and kitchen towels, simmering with sodium percarbonate works great! The one I saw on HSN was $99 I think. I also think it was electric but I could be wrong on that. I was only half paying attention. |
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On 7/27/13 1:46 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "j Burns" > wrote in message > ... >> On 7/25/13 11:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> Hmmm... They were showing a pressure cooker on HSN the other day. It >>> did >>> look tempting but I'm just not sure I would get enough use out of it to >>> justify the space it would take up. >> >> It looks as if you'd pay $34 with shipping. Amazon will send it to you >> for under $27. HSN says the manufacturer's warranty is 1 month. The >> Presto warranty is 12 years. >> >> Thanks for reminding me about shelf space. It's high time for me to put >> most of that expensive stuff in boxes and get it out of the kitchen. Then >> I can put my pressure cooker on a different shelf every day! >> >> I'll keep my 5-quart and my 11-quart pots in the kitchen. For stained >> shirts and kitchen towels, simmering with sodium percarbonate works great! > > The one I saw on HSN was $99 I think. I also think it was electric but I > could be wrong on that. I was only half paying attention. > > I, too, would worry about the space an electric cooker would take... and the cost, and the shorter warranty, and the reduced versatility. I can put my cooker in the refrigerator, which makes it easy to put away and reheat leftovers. Pressure cooking is quick, and the valve regulates the temperature. I don't see any need for a control panel or a heating element. |
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On 7/25/2013 5:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the link! > I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at OSP/Brylane > Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order it, the link > was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also ordered this: > > http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 > > So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It > occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any more. > I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed to > reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I > rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the > microwave, the container I use gets too hot. > > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like > they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two > Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a rounded > shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old > Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other things > too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out my > smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. > > Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I > realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot > but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I > would if I were to make the same meal. > > That's a wonderful Dutch oven, good buying call. |
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![]() "casa bona" > wrote in message ... > On 7/25/2013 5:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the >> link! >> I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at >> OSP/Brylane >> Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order it, the >> link >> was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also ordered >> this: >> >> http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 >> >> So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It >> occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any >> more. >> I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed >> to >> reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I >> rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the >> microwave, the container I use gets too hot. >> >> I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware >> like >> they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two >> Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a >> rounded >> shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old >> Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other >> things >> too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out >> my >> smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. >> >> Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I >> realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot >> but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I >> would if I were to make the same meal. >> >> > That's a wonderful Dutch oven, good buying call. Thanks! |
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On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like > they used to.... More like they never did. Revereware has always been cheap, thin steel. I still have a box of my mom's Revereware pots and pans from the 1950's... -- Larry |
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:48:22 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:
> On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > > > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like > > they used to.... > > More like they never did. Revereware has always been cheap, thin steel. > I still have a box of my mom's Revereware pots and pans from the 1950's... > I hated my mother's Revereware too and am always mystified when it's discussed as if it's something wonderful. Her Revereware is 100% of the reason why I came to so late the modern ss party. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:50:34 -0700, sf > wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:48:22 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote: > >> On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like >> > they used to.... >> >> More like they never did. Revereware has always been cheap, thin steel. >> I still have a box of my mom's Revereware pots and pans from the 1950's... >> >I hated my mother's Revereware too and am always mystified when it's >discussed as if it's something wonderful. Her Revereware is 100% of >the reason why I came to so late the modern ss party. Going back 40 to 50 years, Reverware and Farberware were two of the biggest selling brands of cookware. We bought Farberware when we got married in 1966. The pans were pretty crappy, thin, hard to use properly. They are long gone. The pots, however, are still in good condition and are used on a regular basis. You don't need fancy twelve ply exotic metals to heat up a can of soup or boil potatoes. While I'd never touch the pans again, the pots are good quality and have held up well for many years now. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:50:34 -0700, sf > wrote: > >>On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:48:22 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote: >> >>> On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make >>> > Revereware like >>> > they used to.... >>> >>> More like they never did. Revereware has always been cheap, thin steel. >>> I still have a box of my mom's Revereware pots and pans from the >>> 1950's... >>> >>I hated my mother's Revereware too and am always mystified when it's >>discussed as if it's something wonderful. Her Revereware is 100% of >>the reason why I came to so late the modern ss party. > > > Going back 40 to 50 years, Reverware and Farberware were two of the > biggest selling brands of cookware. We bought Farberware when we got > married in 1966. The pans were pretty crappy, thin, hard to use > properly. They are long gone. The pots, however, are still in good > condition and are used on a regular basis. You don't need fancy > twelve ply exotic metals to heat up a can of soup or boil potatoes. > > While I'd never touch the pans again, the pots are good quality and > have held up well for many years now. I don't mind mine at all. I have bought several different odd pans or sets of pans over the years and hated them all. Granted they weren't expensive pans. But they did have issues. The enamel ones chipped. And things would stick in them because they didn't seem to heat evenly. And I had one non-stick pan that I just never liked. The lid of it fell apart right away too. Could be why it was on clearance. It had been part of a display set of discontinued items. I bought it to have an extra pan. Nope. But by far the worst pan ever was the Visions! I'd gotten my free one when they first came out with them. Literally everything stuck to that pan. I swear you could heat a can of green beans and they'd stick. So I was rather shocked when my mom whipped out an old Visions pan and told me to make something in it. I can't remember now what it was. Maybe mac and cheese from a box. I protested much about that but she pulled an attitude so I tried to proceed. For as much kitchen stuff as she did have, she didn't have much in the way of usable pots and pans. Another of her pans that I hated was the lightweight aluminum pasta pot with the draining insert. I do not like to cook that way and I freaking hated that pan! Anyway... The Visions pan did not want to come to the boil. We waited next to forever on it. Then of course the food stuck, just like I said it would and no amount of scrubbing by her (I refused to do it) would get the food out. Into the trash it went. I just can't believe she kept it for all these years. I'm pretty sure those things came out in the late 70's or early 80's. Now that I think about it, another useless pot was the As Seen On TV pasta pot. The one where you were supposed to be able to drain the pasta through the lid. Totally useless piece of crap. I was gifted with one. Why do all these ads imply that we have severe trouble cooking and draining our pasta? Neither pasta nor rice have ever been a problem for me. Well except for those Soba noodles. But... The first time I tried to use that thing, the lid stuck on it. I could not remove it, nor could my husband. We even used tools! All we managed to do was remove the little knob on the lid. And I couldn't even get the water to drain out! So I had to waste not only the pan but the pasta. |
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 03:33:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >So I was rather shocked when my mom whipped out an old Visions pan and told >me to make something in it. I can't remember now what it was. Maybe mac >and cheese from a box. I protested much about that but she pulled an >attitude so I tried to proceed. For as much kitchen stuff as she did have, >she didn't have much in the way of usable pots and pans. Another of her >pans that I hated was the lightweight aluminum pasta pot with the draining >insert. I do not like to cook that way and I freaking hated that pan! >Anyway... The Visions pan did not want to come to the boil. We waited next >to forever on it. Then of course the food stuck, just like I said it would >and no amount of scrubbing by her (I refused to do it) would get the food >out. Into the trash it went. I just can't believe she kept it for all >these years. I'm pretty sure those things came out in the late 70's or >early 80's. My daughter had some Vision pots. When she moved cross country she gave them to us. First use was to boil potatoes. The Vision pot went into the trash with potato burned on to it. Horrid stuff. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:50:34 -0700, sf > wrote: > >>On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:48:22 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote: >> >>> On 7/25/13 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like >>> > they used to.... >>> >>> More like they never did. Revereware has always been cheap, thin steel. >>> I still have a box of my mom's Revereware pots and pans from the 1950's... >>> >>I hated my mother's Revereware too and am always mystified when it's >>discussed as if it's something wonderful. Her Revereware is 100% of >>the reason why I came to so late the modern ss party. > > >Going back 40 to 50 years, Reverware and Farberware were two of the >biggest selling brands of cookware. We bought Farberware when we got >married in 1966. The pans were pretty crappy, thin, hard to use >properly. They are long gone. The pots, however, are still in good >condition and are used on a regular basis. You don't need fancy >twelve ply exotic metals to heat up a can of soup or boil potatoes. > >While I'd never touch the pans again, the pots are good quality and >have held up well for many years now. You're talking about the old style Farberware Classic cookware, they still cook fine but the new ones cook far better. The new Classic Farberware pans with impact bonded ss bottoms over heavy aluminum cores are fabulous, in sets and open stock at very reasonable prices... I treated myself to some new ones to replace my old style Farberware... I'd not consider buying any other. This is a good buy for yoose small quantity folks: http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Cla...ref=pd_sim_k_2 This has been my favorite forever: http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Cla...ware+pan+12%22 No All-Crap comes close to this, does All_Crap even make large cookwa http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Cla...tainless+steel This 6 qt has become one of my favorites, great for frying without spatter, frys four large pork chops: http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Cla...ef=pd_sim_k_10 |
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On Friday, July 26, 2013 8:06:27 PM UTC+10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > You don't need fancy > twelve ply exotic metals to heat up a can of soup or boil potatoes. We got some 5 ply (stainless steel, aluminium alloy, aluminium, aluminium alloy, stainless steel) pots recently, set of 4 for about $550. Korean. Unlike most, the 5-ply constructions goes right up the sides, and the lids are 5-ply as well. Scanpan have a similar set for about the same price (when on sale), but with glass lids. Also seen similar Korean ones, but with thin (no multi-ply) lids. The lids seal well, and they're very good for cooking slowly. Good pilaf pots. Somewhat like a Dutch oven (as used for cooking on a fire, with coals on the lid) on the stovetop. Better than cast iron, and much lighter. But for boiling pasta or noodles, or making quick soup, a generic cheap pot works well enough. |
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:15:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the link! >I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at OSP/Brylane >Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order it, the link >was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also ordered this: > >http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 > >So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It >occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any more. >I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed to >reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I >rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the >microwave, the container I use gets too hot. > >I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware like >they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two >Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a rounded >shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old >Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other things >too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out my >smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. > >Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I >realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot >but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I >would if I were to make the same meal. I have a microwave, and it is used mainly for the following: - making oatmeal for breakfast - re-heating leftovers - defrosting meat My set of pots has a steamer, and I use that just about every day. It's quite big, so I can put in 3-4 different types of vegetables to steam at the same time. I use my smallest pans for boiled eggs. I boil eggs at least three times a week. Also, my husband will warm up soup in the small pan. Doris > |
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Le Creuset Can't go wrong. "Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... >I just ordered a metal, deep lasagna pan. Thank you Sheldon for the link! >I did not get the one you posted at Amazon but the deeper one at >OSP/Brylane Home. The link for it showed below but when I tried to order >it, the link was no longer valid. I did however track it down and I also >ordered this: > > http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/4Ot...3&StyleNo=0385 > > So I should be set for a while at least with pots and pans. But... It > occurred to me just now that I rarely use any of my smaller pans any more. > I guess my microwave has replaced those things! Used to be if I needed to > reheat a leftover, I would use the oven or the top of the stove. Now I > rarely reheat leftovers this way. Perhaps soup because if done in the > microwave, the container I use gets too hot. > > I do have a large Revereware Dutch Oven but they do not make Revereware > like they used to. Hopefully this will work better. Mostly I use my two > Circulon pans, one being like a deep skillet and the other more of a > rounded shape but still like a skillet, my Rachael Ray pasta pot or my old > Revereware pan that I pop popcorn in. I tend to use that for other things > too. Rice, heating a can of soup, etc. I think I have only pulled out my > smaller pans maybe a few times since I moved here. > > Do you find that you use your pans less now, if you have a microwave? I > realize that not all people here do have them. My mom doesn't cook a lot > but when she does, she seems to use a lot of pans. Perhaps more than I > would if I were to make the same meal. > |
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![]() "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message ... > Two words > > Le Creuset > > Can't go wrong. Too expensive. |
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![]() "Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... > > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message > ... >> Two words >> >> Le Creuset >> >> Can't go wrong. > > Too expensive. Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good cookware you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. |
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![]() "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message ... > > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Two words >>> >>> Le Creuset >>> >>> Can't go wrong. >> >> Too expensive. > > > Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good > cookware you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. I did look but saw nothing of the size I need in my price range. Would have to pay over $100 for that and don't see any deals. Plus to get that size, it would likely be super heavy. I used to have two pieces. One was a tiny skillet. Never really used that. The other was a casserole for one and I think I did get rid of that. Neither was a color I would have chosen. Orange. They were a present from an ex. I did love the casserole when I was single and took it to work a lot. People always wanted to see what I put in it. One thing was a doctored frozen burrito. Bean and cheese. Those were hard to find. I won't eat TVP and most frozen burritos contain there. I would smother it (sf will just love this) in some kind of tomato sauce. Sometimes I would buy enchilada sauce, sometimes make it, or if in a hurry then just canned tomato sauce, canned tomatoes or even a whole mess of raw tomatoes, perhaps with just a dab of canned tomato sauce. Then strips of green pepper and white onion and a lot of cheese. Oh my was that good! And because I added so much stuff to it, it kinda looked like I made it myself. Over time, the white inside of the casserole had gray marks on it, probably from a fork. Just like my ancient Corningware blue flower casserole now does. I'm sure it was still usable but I have far less use for a single casserole these days. If could find and afford to get 4-6 of those, I probably would. I just don't tend to shop at any places that sell the stuff and never think to look for it online. Would be nice if I could find it somewhere in like...a deeply discounted discontinued color but I never seem to. In the meantime I bought some in a similar shape (but cheap imports) at Christmas Tree shop but they turned out not to be large enough. Then I bought some little green ones (I think they are Le Creuset but maybe just a really good imitation) that are vintage from Ebay. I am a lousy judge of size and can not tell most of the time by looking at the measurements how big something will actually be. Which could be why I just bought something akin to a suitcase for my new purse. It is Laurel Burch and it is Fabric so it won't be heavy. But still, when I saw the measurements, I assumed it was about the same size as the extra large bag that I have. Oops! And they did have a warning that the bags could be larger than we thought they were. Anyway... These baking dishes turned out to be super flat. Not really sure what they would be good for except perhaps for baked apples and really when I do those, I usually do them in a larger dish. I suppose they would be good for apple dumplings but I haven't made those in years. |
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![]() "The Other Guy" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > > wrote: > >>Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good >>cookware >>you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. > > Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? > > IF I was 20 years old, maybe. > I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! > > There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings > there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star > ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. The funny thing is, when I was 20 years old, I couldn't afford to buy much of anything. I would imagine many of us were in the same boat. I didn't even have Reverware then and much of what I had in my kitchen was purchased at K Mart or Woolworths during the dollar day sales. I had some hideous soup mugs in bright green, yellow and orange that got a lot of use for things other than soup! Because I didn't have much more to use. I did however splurge on things like Airbake cookie sheets, some really good Springform pans and all kinds of chocolate/candy making and cake decorating supplies. That was what I was known for in those days. My baking and candy making. And IMO, you just can't bake good cookies on a $1.00 cookie sheet. I do have cheap cookie sheets now. I consider them almost disposable. I mainly use them under things that might drip. Or I cover them with release foil to bake fries or other things. But I would never bake cookies on them. I also find that at age 54, even though I can afford to buy some things for the kitchen, I can't feasibly use them. Such as a lot of cast iron things because they are just too darned heavy. I had to take back that giant cast iron casserole that I was gifted. Partly because I had asked for a pasta pot and had no need for a giant casserole and the gift giver had no clue that they bought the right thing because they do not cook. Oh... You can't boil pasta in a casserole? But partly because I couldn't lift the thing even when empty! When we returned it to the store, it took Angela and I both to get it out of the van, into the cart and then up onto the service desk. I can't imagine trying to get something like that in and out of the oven because it would be even more heavy with food in it! And unwieldy when hot! The first time I bought a Circulon pan, I kicked myself all the way until it came and I first used it. And then I was hooked! But I just couldn't believe that I had spent so much for one pan. I think it was $54. I grew up in a house where aside from the Revereware (which I know many here don't like), we only had cheap stuff in the kitchen. Melamine dishes until I was a teen or close to being one. My parents lived in fear that we would break the dishes. Plastic cookie jar. Dime store cookie sheets. Those hideous non-stick skillets that used to go on sale for maybe $2-3. A rolling pin that was missing a handle. Never did figure out why it was missing but I loved to show it to visitors and tell them that my mom hit my dad over the head with it and knocked in clear off. No ladle. My mom would use one of the melamine coffee cups to dip up soup and stew. Then several times over the years she has bought me a ladle for Christmas or birthday or some such thing. She seems to have had pretty bad memory loss for quite some time now. Never seems to remember that not only do I already have plenty of ladles, but she has already bought me some. Each time she gives one to me, she tells me, "That's one thing I always wanted. A ladle!" I never did figure that one out. We went to the dime store all the time and surely they must have sold ladles there! My first one came with a set of tools that I got a K Mart. 50 cents for the whole set. In those days we really could get good bargains there. I think the set originally sold for $3 but for some reason it wound up on the clearance aisle and I got it on a blue light special. There was a rack for hanging on the wall, a spoon, ladle, spaghetti server and a pancake turner. Over the years the rack broke, and the other pieces went the way of the wind, but I still have that ladle. Then I got flatware as a wedding gift and it came with a ladle. I have small ladles from the dollar store for sauces and dressings and the like. And then I have the odd ceramic ladle that came with the ceramic soup tureen that I was gifted. I am just waiting for the day that I can use that! I can't imagine when that day might be. Seeing as how I am the only soup lover in this house and could not be bothered to put the soup in a tureen to serve myself out of. But... Who in the world thought that a ceramic ladle would be a good idea? I can just imagine it getting broken into the soup. Anyway... I could not believe how much better the quality of my food was in that Circulon pan and I've since ordered two more. I also bought some Khun Rikhon boil over stopper lids that were a tad pricey and today I saw that Collections Etc. now has their version for $9.99. So these days I can afford to spend more for things in the kitchen. But I do have my limits. I might possibly spend $300 (might but probably not) for a whole set of pots and pans. But... I have also discovered over the years that things come in those sets that I will never or rarely ever use. So while I can buy some pricier things now than when I could when younger, I am also more inclined to want to pare down what I have in my kitchen. My mom just had a garage sale. I was totally shocked at how much kitchen stuff she had! And finally she had a ladle! Someone gifted her with a set of tools that hung on the wall. But she had several can openers, many sets of tongs, several still in the packages, tons of casseroles and mixing bowls, several sets of dishes. Dozens of vases! I just don't want the day to come when I am too old and feeble to want to go through all that stuff to get rid of it. I am paring it down now. I kept one large vase, one medium vase and one little bud vase. If I ever need anything more than that, I can use canning jars. Heh! And unless it is a really expensive or hard to find item, I am getting rid of it now, unless it is something I currently use. I did keep my Springform pan and my Bundt pan only because when I needed them, I had a heck of a time finding them. Found Springform pans in one store all missing the bottoms! I did come close to getting rid of those but after thinking about it for a minute, decided that perhaps I should keep them for a while longer. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
> > I also find that at age 54, even though I can afford to buy some things for > the kitchen, I can't feasibly use them. Such as a lot of cast iron things > because they are just too darned heavy. Don't feel bad. I'm a big strong guy and I rarely use my cast iron pans. The heavy weight annoys me. I mostly use my large set of Revereware pots and pans. Many people put them down as cheap and worthless but if you learn to cook with them, they are great and no problems. I would NEVER consider replacing my Revereware with other cookware. I have a few other *better* pieces and I rarely use them. G. |
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 01:59:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > And unless it is a really expensive or hard to find > item, I am getting rid of it now, unless it is something I currently use. I > did keep my Springform pan and my Bundt pan only because when I needed them, > I had a heck of a time finding them. Found Springform pans in one store all > missing the bottoms! I did come close to getting rid of those but after > thinking about it for a minute, decided that perhaps I should keep them for > a while longer. I think we go through phases in cooking. I made lots of cheesecakes, quiches, tarts etc for 20 years or so... haven't made them in maybe 10 years. Oh, once in a great while... but not as many as I use to. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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![]() "The Other Guy" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > > wrote: > >>Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good >>cookware >>you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. > > Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? > > IF I was 20 years old, maybe. > I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! > > There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings > there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star > ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. I have 3 Le Creuset pieces, 2 soup pots and a Dutch oven, which I paid maybe 300.00 total for and I use them often and they will outlive me so long as I don't drop them. Just love them. |
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On 7/26/2013 4:22 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message > ... >> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > >> wrote: >> >>> Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good >>> cookware >>> you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. >> >> Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? >> >> IF I was 20 years old, maybe. >> I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! >> >> There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings >> there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star >> ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. > > > I have 3 Le Creuset pieces, 2 soup pots and a Dutch oven, which I paid maybe > 300.00 total for and I use them often and they will outlive me so long as I > don't drop them. > > Just love them. > > > Ditto. |
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 03:22:24 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote: > >I have 3 Le Creuset pieces, 2 soup pots and a Dutch oven. WTF is a "soup pot"... I can cook soup in any pot, even a #10 tin. WTF is the difference between a soup pot and a dutch oven... Le Creuset doesn't even make an authentic dutch oven... actually they make no tradionally configured cookware... ALL *******IZATIONS... in other words; Very Overpriced Crapola... all they are marketing is *colors*: http://cookware.lecreuset.com/cookwa...0151_-1_20002? I don't believe you own any Le Creuset cookware, you're too much of a cheapo ******* and fact is you can't cook a lick... has anyone here ever seen anything you've cooked, of course not... do you know what a PPOS is (Phoney Piece Of Shit). |
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On 7/26/2013 12:40 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > > wrote: > >> Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good cookware >> you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. > > Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? > > IF I was 20 years old, maybe. > I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! > > There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings > there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star > ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. > > > > > > > > > > To reply by email, lose the Ks... > http://www.ebay.com/bhp/le-creuset-dutch-oven-new BRAND NEW LE CREUSET CAST IRON 4.5 QUART ROUND FRENCH DUTCH OVEN CASSIS NO RESVE BRAND NEW LE CREUSET CAST IRON 4.5 QUART ROUND FRENCH DUTCH OVEN CASSIS NO RESVE 8h 13m left $179.99 0 bids $235.00 Buy It Now |
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:40:21 -0700, The Other Guy
> wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > > wrote: > > >Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good cookware > >you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. > > Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? > > IF I was 20 years old, maybe. > I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! > > There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings > there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star > ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. > > I don't get it with things like dutch ovens. What's wrong with the old fashioned uncoated cast iron type we used to buy at the hardware store? The one I have was inherited through my mother from her mother... who know? Maybe it was my great grandmother's. I can guarantee you it didn't cost $300 and it's still in great shape. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:40:21 -0700, The Other Guy > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > >> wrote: >> >> >Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good >> >cookware >> >you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. >> >> Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? >> >> IF I was 20 years old, maybe. >> I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! >> >> There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings >> there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star >> ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. >> >> > I don't get it with things like dutch ovens. What's wrong with the > old fashioned uncoated cast iron type we used to buy at the hardware > store? The one I have was inherited through my mother from her > mother... who know? Maybe it was my great grandmother's. I can > guarantee you it didn't cost $300 and it's still in great shape. I have one of those, too - a 5 quart Lodge. Got it at an Army surplus store for 20 bucks back in 1981. I just love my Le Creuset because it never oxidizes and I can store the prepared food in it in the fridge. I use the Lodge from time to time for things like roasting chicken. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:40:21 -0700, The Other Guy > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:36:45 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" > >> wrote: >> >> >Not hardly. And they last forever. Probably the last really good >> >cookware >> >you can buy. You can get them a lot cheaper online. >> >> Nearly $300 for a 5 quart dutch oven on Amazon?? >> >> IF I was 20 years old, maybe. >> I'd HAVE to live 50 more years to make THAT worth buying!! >> >> There are nearly affordable alternatives with great ratings >> there as well, same size for $50, with over 1200 4 and 5 star >> ratings, vs about 200 3 or lower stars. >> >> > I don't get it with things like dutch ovens. What's wrong with the > old fashioned uncoated cast iron type we used to buy at the hardware > store? The one I have was inherited through my mother from her > mother... who know? Maybe it was my great grandmother's. I can > guarantee you it didn't cost $300 and it's still in great shape. I have never liked cast iron. I can never seem to season it right. |
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On 7/25/2013 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message > ... >> Two words >> >> Le Creuset >> >> Can't go wrong. > > Too expensive. > > Buy once, use for life. |
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Janet wrote:
> >IME many cooks won't be able to use their Le Creuset for life; with >advancing age of the cook they'll find full ones too heavy to lift >safely. Any large pot is heavy to lift when full, but it's not very often that full large pots are lifted, not until most contents are ladled out. However cast iron is too heavy empty... even young folks find them difficult to handle... a PIA to clean, one slip and they'll damage your sink. Even Le Creuset knows that their pots are too heavy, that's why they put their name on porcelainized steel stock pots. |
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![]() "Janet" > wrote in message t... > In article >, says... >> >> On 7/25/2013 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >> > ... >> >> Two words >> >> >> >> Le Creuset >> >> >> >> Can't go wrong. >> > >> > Too expensive. >> > >> > >> Buy once, use for life. > > IME many cooks won't be able to use their Le Creuset for life; with > advancing age of the cook they'll find full ones too heavy to lift > safely. > > I gave away the heaviest of mine and only use the smallest now. If I ever get to that point I'll install block and tackle systems in my kitchen. It's all in the leverage. |
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![]() "casa bona" > wrote in message ... > On 7/25/2013 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Two words >>> >>> Le Creuset >>> >>> Can't go wrong. >> >> Too expensive. >> >> > Buy once, use for life. But I am 54. How many more years will I be cooking? |
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On 7/26/2013 3:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message > ... >> On 7/25/2013 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> Two words >>>> >>>> Le Creuset >>>> >>>> Can't go wrong. >>> >>> Too expensive. >>> >>> >> Buy once, use for life. > > > But I am 54. How many more years will I be cooking? > > 50? Think positively. |
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On 7/26/2013 11:29 AM, casa bona wrote:
> On 7/25/2013 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Two words >>> >>> Le Creuset >>> >>> Can't go wrong. >> >> Too expensive. >> >> > Buy once, use for life. That is true, I like Le Creuset and I've had a full set of Saladmaster cookware for about 35 years. Nobody in the younger generation likes to cook, so I have no idea who I will leave it to. Becca |
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On 7/26/2013 4:03 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 7/26/2013 11:29 AM, casa bona wrote: >> On 7/25/2013 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> Two words >>>> >>>> Le Creuset >>>> >>>> Can't go wrong. >>> >>> Too expensive. >>> >>> >> Buy once, use for life. > > That is true, I like Le Creuset and I've had a full set of Saladmaster > cookware for about 35 years. Nobody in the younger generation likes to > cook, so I have no idea who I will leave it to. > > Becca Gee, that's a depressing insight. Do they even like to eat? |
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"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
> >Two words >Le Creuset >Can't go wrong. Another Neanderthal Gold's Gym wannabe. |
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