Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of these
things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different meals.
And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat things that I'm
not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have to make another
meal.

But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony basmati
brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone wants
it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat butter.
Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. Said it was too
lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it! Husband said he didn't like
it because it was too buttery. Although he did eat every speck of it.
So... *sigh* One day I will make this just for me and use olive oil or
margarine instead of the butter. But I don't know when because I rarely eat
rice as a side dish. Usually only when made as a main dish.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:37:45 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Do you have problems like this?
>
> Not nearly as much as your family. Not even close!

Lucky you! Add in my extended family and I'm hosed. Numerous times, my SIL
had told me that there is no way my bro would eat anything that is on my
plate. He is a super picky eater but we are at opposite ends of the food
spectrum.

Perhaps this could explain why our diet was so limited when we ate at home.
Not that my brother or I or even anybody in the family liked all of the
meals that my mom fixed. We didn't.

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:37:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Found a recipe for lemony basmati
> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone wants
> it.

I'm interested. I don't like long grain rice, but it's easy enough to
switch it for the brown rice I do like. Thanks.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"> On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:37:45 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Do you have problems like this?
>


no, do you? if so, please tell us all about it. We have nothing better to
do.

On Jun 3, 8:37*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Do you have problems like this? *A few things come to mind immediately.
> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. *Yes, I can eat some of these
> things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different meals.

Corn, and broccoli. If I want to eat these things I have to buy them,
and even so my wife will just pick at the corn. To her it is not a
vegetable.

> But tonight? *I made a meal for them. *Found a recipe for lemony basmati
> brown rice that sounded divine! *And it was, IMO. *Will post if anyone wants
> it. *I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat butter.
> Yummmmmmy! *Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. *Said it was too
> lemony. *That's exactly what I loved about it! *Husband said he didn't like
> it because it was too buttery. *Although he did eat every speck of it.
> So... **sigh* *One day I will make this just for me and use olive oil or
> margarine instead of the butter. *But I don't know when because I rarely eat
> rice as a side dish. *Usually only when made as a main dish.

Maybe the rice was too sour for your daughter, and too greasy for your
husband. To me rice should be bland and fluffy.

"spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 3, 8:37 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
> these
> things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different meals.

Corn, and broccoli. If I want to eat these things I have to buy them,
and even so my wife will just pick at the corn. To her it is not a
vegetable.

> But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony basmati
> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone wants
> it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat butter.
> Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. Said it was too
> lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it! Husband said he didn't like
> it because it was too buttery. Although he did eat every speck of it.
> So... *sigh* One day I will make this just for me and use olive oil or
> margarine instead of the butter. But I don't know when because I rarely
> eat
> rice as a side dish. Usually only when made as a main dish.

Maybe the rice was too sour for your daughter, and too greasy for your
husband.

I think her daughter was too sour for the rice.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat things
> that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have to make
> another meal.

No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make it for
myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't eat it.

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat things
> that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have to make
> another meal.
>
> But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony basmati
> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone
> wants it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat
> butter. Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. Said it
> was too lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it! Husband said he
> didn't like it because it was too buttery. Although he did eat every
> speck of it. So... *sigh* One day I will make this just for me and use
> olive oil or margarine instead of the butter. But I don't know when
> because I rarely eat rice as a side dish. Usually only when made as a
> main dish.

We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing. Very much like
passive aggressive but by proxy. The proxy being food. Your family's food
issues are a genuine psychosis.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:37:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Found a recipe for lemony basmati
>> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone
>> wants
>> it.
>
> I'm interested. I don't like long grain rice, but it's easy enough to
> switch it for the brown rice I do like. Thanks.

Okay. Lemme go to the kitchen and get it...

This is for 4 servings and of course if you change the rice you may need to
change the amount of water and the cooking time.

1 cup brown basmati rice
1/2 teaspoon sea salt
1 tablespoon lemon juice
2 teaspoons finely grated fresh lemon rind
1 bay leaf
2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh parsley or 1 of dried
1 1/2 tablespoons butter or olive oil

Rinse rice well. Bring to boil 2 cups water, salt, lemon juice and rind,
bay leaf and parsley.

Add rice. Bring back to boil then lower heat and cover.

Simmer for 40 minutes or until water is absorbed.

Turn off heat and let sit for 5 minutes, covered.

Add butter or oil and mix gently with fork. Remove bay leaf.

spamtrap1888 wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:37 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind
>> immediately. Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I
>> can eat some of these things by myself but it does get annoying to
>> always make different meals.
>
> Corn, and broccoli. If I want to eat these things I have to buy them,
> and even so my wife will just pick at the corn. To her it is not a
> vegetable.

Well, corn is a grain. Actually daughter and I prefer it raw if it is
fresh. Soooo good! But the rest of the family won't touch it that way. I
made a wonderful raw corn salad for the 4th of July one year and they all
hated it except for Angela and I. My bro does love corn and it's one of the
few things in the vegetable world that he will eat. I'll eat it cooked but
not so fond of it. Prefer it to be a small amount in a soup or stew or as
popcorn!

As for the broccoli, we'll eat that raw too but not cooked. Husband will
eat it either way but loves it cooked. I hate the smell of it or asparagus
cooking. So he only gets it at home once in a while. I did the asparagus
tonight. Big Costco bag.

>> But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony
>> basmati brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post
>> if anyone wants it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can
>> not eat butter. Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat
>> it. Said it was too lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it!
>> Husband said he didn't like it because it was too buttery. Although
>> he did eat every speck of it. So... *sigh* One day I will make this
>> just for me and use olive oil or margarine instead of the butter.
>> But I don't know when because I rarely eat rice as a side dish.
>> Usually only when made as a main dish.
>
> Maybe the rice was too sour for your daughter, and too greasy for your
> husband. To me rice should be bland and fluffy.

But they won't eat bland brown rice. And they are getting tired of my
Mexican and Spanish rice which is why I tried this. Actually neither of
them likes the brown rice very much. Both will eat white but white is not
on daughter's diet.

She will eat the rice that my mom makes but to me it is horrible! She calls
it dry fried rice. She cooks brown rice. Then she puts it in a skillet
with no oil and cooks it until it is crunchy. No salt, nothing. No thank
you!

This stuff was light and fluffy. Not greasy. 1.2 tablespoons of butter
for a cup of rice. I do wish I had cooked it with olive oil and not butter.
Then I could eat it. Oddly enough the thing that my husband didn't eat much
of was the Mediteranian chicken sticks. I gave him 4. They're not big. He
ate 2. But ate all of his asparagus and rice. *shrugs*

Cheri wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make
> it for myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't
> eat it.

But some things I like, like Hominy only come in a big can here. I know
they are made in smaller cans but I can't find them. So I open the big can
to have it once and then what? Nobody will eat the rest. I don't
necessarily want to eat it every night. So I just do without.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make
>> it for myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't
>> eat it.
>
> But some things I like, like Hominy only come in a big can here. I know
> they are made in smaller cans but I can't find them. So I open the big
> can to have it once and then what? Nobody will eat the rest. I don't
> necessarily want to eat it every night. So I just do without.

Freeze it in portion sized ZipLock bags.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
>> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
>> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
>> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat
>> things that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have
>> to make another meal.
>>
>> But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony basmati
>> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone
>> wants it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat
>> butter. Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. Said it
>> was too lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it! Husband said he
>> didn't like it because it was too buttery. Although he did eat every
>> speck of it. So... *sigh* One day I will make this just for me and use
>> olive oil or margarine instead of the butter. But I don't know when
>> because I rarely eat rice as a side dish. Usually only when made as a
>> main dish.
>
> We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
> subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing. Very much
> like passive aggressive but by proxy. The proxy being food. Your
> family's food issues are a genuine psychosis.

That could be part of it. But there are also picky eaters in my family.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheri wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make
>>> it for myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't
>>> eat it.
>>
>> But some things I like, like Hominy only come in a big can here. I know
>> they are made in smaller cans but I can't find them. So I open the big
>> can to have it once and then what? Nobody will eat the rest. I don't
>> necessarily want to eat it every night. So I just do without.
>
> Freeze it in portion sized ZipLock bags.

Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe once
or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
>>> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
>>> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
>>> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat
>>> things that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have
>>> to make another meal.
>>>
>>> But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony basmati
>>> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone
>>> wants it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat
>>> butter. Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. Said it
>>> was too lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it! Husband said he
>>> didn't like it because it was too buttery. Although he did eat every
>>> speck of it. So... *sigh* One day I will make this just for me and use
>>> olive oil or margarine instead of the butter. But I don't know when
>>> because I rarely eat rice as a side dish. Usually only when made as a
>>> main dish.
>>
>> We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
>> subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing. Very much
>> like passive aggressive but by proxy. The proxy being food. Your
>> family's food issues are a genuine psychosis.
>
> That could be part of it. But there are also picky eaters in my family.


Johns Hopkins would love to interview your family. There are picky eaters,
and trust me I know many. Then there is the Bove clan. I am not picking on
you. But to think this is anything but a psychosis is just fooling
yourself.

I've been there. I make a damn fine tiramisu. I use fine French cognac and
it is divine. A regular at our eat-ins loved it *until* she detected I was
pleased and interested that she would like my tiramisu and actively tried to
ply her good graces with it. She never ate a bite again. Turned it away
like it was garbage from then on. When it became a reciprocation of
friendship she wanted nothing to do with it.

Same here. Preparing food for others is an act of love. What better tool
to use against someone than their own love?

It sucks, Jules. It sucks.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>> That could be part of it. But there are also picky eaters in my family.
>
>
> Johns Hopkins would love to interview your family. There are picky
> eaters, and trust me I know many. Then there is the Bove clan. I am not
> picking on you. But to think this is anything but a psychosis is just
> fooling yourself.

Bove is my married name. On that side of the family, I can easily tell you
what they will and won't eat. One SIL won't have mashed potatoes but will
eat any other form of potato. FIL was not a big meat eater. Hated fish.
Did not usually like beets but liked the way I made them and did eat them.
And had issues with the texture of onions. If I minced them up finely, he
had no issues. He just didn't like to find a big chunk of onion in
anything. And he would not eat rice because he said they didn't eat it
where he came from in Italy. MIL would eat anything! Other than that, the
main issues with some of them were medical. Namely gout and GERD. And MIL
has swallowing issues now so is on a special diet for that. But I was just
reading last night that they no longer recommend the gout diet because they
found that it did not help. Turns out that what you eat does not affect the
purine levels in the body. It is the body itself that pumps this stuff out.
Anyway... Extended family on that side are for the most part not picky
eaters at all.

My side of the family though... Extreme issues! Both parents. Brother and
his wife. Wife's family. Their son does seem to eat most things but is not
a sweets lover. But his fiance is a very picky eater.
>
> I've been there. I make a damn fine tiramisu. I use fine French cognac
> and it is divine. A regular at our eat-ins loved it *until* she detected
> I was pleased and interested that she would like my tiramisu and actively
> tried to ply her good graces with it. She never ate a bite again. Turned
> it away like it was garbage from then on. When it became a reciprocation
> of friendship she wanted nothing to do with it.

That's one food that I've never tried. I do have issues with food textures
and I believe that is a texture I would not like. Do not like creamy,
whipped type things. And very particular about sweets. Do not like most of
them and what I do like seems to be very random.
>
> Same here. Preparing food for others is an act of love. What better tool
> to use against someone than their own love?

That's what bugs me. I do try *very* hard to make things that they like and
will eat. And it feels like a waste of time when they don't like the food.
But I know with one person who shall remain nameless that it is totally a
control thing. Complained that there was too much dressing on the salad.
He couldn't eat it. Next time I put less. Still too much. He couldn't eat
it. Wanted it on the side. I put it on the side. He only ate a tiny bit
of the dressing. So the next time I only gave him a tiny bit. He didn't
eat all of that either. Then began complaining that there was salad. He
only wanted "real" food. So gave him a meal with no salad. "Where's my
salad!?" Then I was in a hurry and just put a tiny amount of dressing on
his salad. His complaint? Not enough dressing. He ate the dressing off of
it and didn't touch the salad.

I know this is a game to him because I watched him play it with his mom.
Would not eat the meal she fixed. So she'd fix him a sandwich. He wouldn't
want it. Would tell her to make another kind of sandwich. Didn't want
that. Repeat. He would do this until there were three sandwiches. Then
he'd beam! Got THREE sandwiches AND a plate of food to eat later!

I don't play that game. If you don't tell me what you want for dinner,
then you get what I fix. If you don't eat it, it gets tossed and I don't
fix you something else. Unless there was some sort of clear problem with
it. To the point where it was inedible to everyone. Then I would fix
something else.
>
> It sucks, Jules. It sucks.

It does. I don't understand why they do not desire to fix their own food.
But they don't. But I guess there are a lot of people like that out there.
I grew up in a house like that. Nobody liked to cook but me. And I have a
friend who would rather eat a yogurt or a bowl of cereal before she would
cook something. Granted I think we all feel like that at times. But most
of the time I do not. Actually my desire to cook outweighs the need for
food here.

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 01:40:52 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
>>>> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
>>>> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
>>>> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat
>>>> things that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have
>>>> to make another meal.
>>>>
>>>> But tonight? I made a meal for them. Found a recipe for lemony basmati
>>>> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone
>>>> wants it. I did try it before I put the butter in as I can not eat
>>>> butter. Yummmmmmy! Daughter took a bite and refused to eat it. Said it
>>>> was too lemony. That's exactly what I loved about it! Husband said he
>>>> didn't like it because it was too buttery. Although he did eat every
>>>> speck of it. So... *sigh* One day I will make this just for me and use
>>>> olive oil or margarine instead of the butter. But I don't know when
>>>> because I rarely eat rice as a side dish. Usually only when made as a
>>>> main dish.
>>>
>>> We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
>>> subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing. Very much
>>> like passive aggressive but by proxy. The proxy being food. Your
>>> family's food issues are a genuine psychosis.
>>
>> That could be part of it. But there are also picky eaters in my family.
>
>
>Johns Hopkins would love to interview your family. There are picky eaters,
>and trust me I know many. Then there is the Bove clan. I am not picking on
>you. But to think this is anything but a psychosis is just fooling
>yourself.
>
>I've been there. I make a damn fine tiramisu. I use fine French cognac and
>it is divine. A regular at our eat-ins loved it *until* she detected I was
>pleased and interested that she would like my tiramisu and actively tried to
>ply her good graces with it. She never ate a bite again. Turned it away
>like it was garbage from then on. When it became a reciprocation of
>friendship she wanted nothing to do with it.

How sad. I hope you don't dwell on it, it's her loss. Send me her
portion :-)

>
>Same here. Preparing food for others is an act of love. What better tool
>to use against someone than their own love?
>
>It sucks, Jules. It sucks.

I agree with the rest of your post, with an addition. This is the last
time I will say it because I am not going to pick on Julie, but I have
pointed out before that Julie indulges in the same passive aggresive
behaviour here by asking for suggestions/recipes and then shooting
them down one by one with the can't/won't mantra.

To Julie:

If he ate the Lemony Rice, feed it to him again. If his complaint was
too buttery, cut the butter back or omit it (I am assuming it was a
finishing ingredient).

I would like the recipe as you offered elsewhere in this thread.

JB


>
>

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
>> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
>> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
>> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat
>> things that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have
>> to make another meal.
>
> No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make it
> for myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't eat it.
>
> Cheri

and you don't post about it ad nauseum, so it truly is not a problem for
anyone else.

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> To Julie:
>
> If he ate the Lemony Rice, feed it to him again. If his complaint was
> too buttery, cut the butter back or omit it (I am assuming it was a
> finishing ingredient).
>
> I would like the recipe as you offered elsewhere in this thread.

I put it in a reply to sf. Won't make it again for him because daughter
won't eat it. And he doesn't have any dietary restrictions. He can eat
anything.

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 02:27:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>>> That could be part of it. But there are also picky eaters in my family.
>>
>>
>> Johns Hopkins would love to interview your family. There are picky
>> eaters, and trust me I know many. Then there is the Bove clan. I am not
>> picking on you. But to think this is anything but a psychosis is just
>> fooling yourself.
>
>Bove is my married name. On that side of the family, I can easily tell you
>what they will and won't eat. One SIL won't have mashed potatoes but will
>eat any other form of potato. FIL was not a big meat eater. Hated fish.
>Did not usually like beets but liked the way I made them and did eat them.
>And had issues with the texture of onions. If I minced them up finely, he
>had no issues. He just didn't like to find a big chunk of onion in
>anything. And he would not eat rice because he said they didn't eat it
>where he came from in Italy. MIL would eat anything! Other than that, the
>main issues with some of them were medical. Namely gout and GERD. And MIL
>has swallowing issues now so is on a special diet for that. But I was just
>reading last night that they no longer recommend the gout diet because they
>found that it did not help. Turns out that what you eat does not affect the
>purine levels in the body. It is the body itself that pumps this stuff out.
>Anyway... Extended family on that side are for the most part not picky
>eaters at all.
>
>My side of the family though... Extreme issues! Both parents. Brother and
>his wife. Wife's family. Their son does seem to eat most things but is not
>a sweets lover. But his fiance is a very picky eater.

Extreme food issues are not inherited, they are learned behaviours. It
seems to me that both you and your husband are apssing along these
behaviours to Angela. The extreme food pickiness and also the abuse
(see below). Angela is copying his lead WRT her behaviour in relation
to you and food.

>>
>> I've been there. I make a damn fine tiramisu. I use fine French cognac
>> and it is divine. A regular at our eat-ins loved it *until* she detected
>> I was pleased and interested that she would like my tiramisu and actively
>> tried to ply her good graces with it. She never ate a bite again. Turned
>> it away like it was garbage from then on. When it became a reciprocation
>> of friendship she wanted nothing to do with it.
>
>That's one food that I've never tried. I do have issues with food textures
>and I believe that is a texture I would not like. Do not like creamy,
>whipped type things. And very particular about sweets. Do not like most of
>them and what I do like seems to be very random.
>>
>> Same here. Preparing food for others is an act of love. What better tool
>> to use against someone than their own love?
>
>That's what bugs me. I do try *very* hard to make things that they like and
>will eat. And it feels like a waste of time when they don't like the food.
>But I know with one person who shall remain nameless that it is totally a
>control thing. Complained that there was too much dressing on the salad.
>He couldn't eat it. Next time I put less. Still too much. He couldn't eat
>it. Wanted it on the side. I put it on the side. He only ate a tiny bit
>of the dressing. So the next time I only gave him a tiny bit. He didn't
>eat all of that either. Then began complaining that there was salad. He
>only wanted "real" food. So gave him a meal with no salad. "Where's my
>salad!?" Then I was in a hurry and just put a tiny amount of dressing on
>his salad. His complaint? Not enough dressing. He ate the dressing off of
>it and didn't touch the salad.

I know you try hard, you are always posting about new things to feed
the ungrateful pair. This type of behaviour from your husband is
extremely controlling and to my mind abuse. Really and truly I think
you all need family counselling, to me your family looks dysfunctional
but you all seem to be co-dependent on this dysfunction. Nothing will
change unless you ALL can change, however I think that change will
have to start with you. You do have the right to tell them to STFU,
you know.


>
>I know this is a game to him because I watched him play it with his mom.
>Would not eat the meal she fixed. So she'd fix him a sandwich. He wouldn't
>want it. Would tell her to make another kind of sandwich. Didn't want
>that. Repeat. He would do this until there were three sandwiches. Then
>he'd beam! Got THREE sandwiches AND a plate of food to eat later!
>
>I don't play that game. If you don't tell me what you want for dinner,
>then you get what I fix. If you don't eat it, it gets tossed and I don't
>fix you something else. Unless there was some sort of clear problem with
>it. To the point where it was inedible to everyone. Then I would fix
>something else.

You are playing that game though, by the very amount of time you spend
obsessing about your and their food restrictions/dislikes. Look, I
sympathise with trying to please a crowd, we are a household of seven,
three that are plainer and pickier eaters than the others (to varying
degrees). Usually the person who cooks (there are four of us who cook,
aged 58, 51, 29 and 13) tries to cook something that everyone will eat
but sometimes not. Anyone that will not eat what is on offer can make
themselves a toasted sandwich or some version of eggs. We are always
well stocked with provisions.


>>
>> It sucks, Jules. It sucks.
>
>It does. I don't understand why they do not desire to fix their own food.
>But they don't. But I guess there are a lot of people like that out there.
>I grew up in a house like that. Nobody liked to cook but me. And I have a
>friend who would rather eat a yogurt or a bowl of cereal before she would
>cook something. Granted I think we all feel like that at times. But most
>of the time I do not. Actually my desire to cook outweighs the need for
>food here.

They are using that desire against you. Maybe you could direct that
desire into a different type of cooking. What about trying jams,
jellies, pickles, chutneys etc? It doesn't even matter if you don't
use them, give them away. It does not have to be expensive if you can
get free produce or even by making them in small amounts. The length
of time taken by these cooking activities can be very satisfying and
would give you an activity that is all about you, and not about them.

JB



>

On 04/06/2013 7:18 AM, JBurns wrote:

> I agree with the rest of your post, with an addition. This is the last
> time I will say it because I am not going to pick on Julie, but I have
> pointed out before that Julie indulges in the same passive aggresive
> behaviour here by asking for suggestions/recipes and then shooting
> them down one by one with the can't/won't mantra.
>

Don't worry about Bovine being picked on. She lives for the attention,
and she would rather have people say nasty things about her than not be
the centre of attention.

On 6/4/2013 9:19 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> Freeze it in portion sized ZipLock bags.
>>
>> Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe
>> once
>> or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>
> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't want
> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out
> with your problem by offering a solution.
>
I was going to suggest freezing the remaining hominy, too. But that
would be too easy. Besides, it might "expire" in the meantime.

Jill

On 04/06/2013 9:19 AM, barbie gee wrote:

>> Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe
>> once
>> or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>
> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't want
> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out
> with your problem by offering a solution.
>
>

Are you just learning that about Bovine? She will find a problem with
every solution offered.

On 6/4/2013 9:28 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
>>> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
>>> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
>>> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want!
>>
>
> I'm amazed at how everything is about "like" and "don't like", "can" and
> "can't", "will" and "won't". I can only imagine what these folks are
> like when out in company.
>
> We had a woman like that at work. We were at a lovely catered event for
> the holidays, and I had the misfortune of sitting next to her. She
> tried some food, which I applaud, but then gave us a play by play
> commentary of EVERYTHING on the buffet; "this is too salty", "ICK, I
> hate brie", "I would never eat stuffed grape leaves!". If you made the
> mistake of asking WHY she'd never eat stuffed grape leaves, you'd find
> she'd never actually tasted them, it was just the thought of them. I
> moved away from this tedious, self-centered, critiquing woman, and made
> a point to NEVER sit near her again at any party.
>
(applause) Good move on your part. I've been to a few "rubber chicken
dinners" at company functions. The table doesn't need a play-by-play of
what the person doesn't like. BTW, I've always wanted to try stuffed
grape leaves.

> Good manners dictate that you don't insult the cook when you're being
> served food, even if the cook is your mom or wife. I remember as a
> child, if mom did happen to make a mistake, pointing it out was the LAST
> thing I would think to do. Eat it, or don't, just stop complaining
> about it.
>
> sheeze.
>
But then what would we have to talk about? I admit I'm a picky
eater. I despise salads and most *raw* vegetables. I also prefer my
food to be hot (as in warm, rather than, say, a cold sandwich.) Do I
bitch about it? Not really. It's easy enough to avoid things I don't like.

Jill

In article >, says...

> We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
> subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing.

You've got it all back to front. Julie makes her family her whipping
boys; turning them into her excuse and justification for endless self-
obsession and martyrdom.


Janet UK

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:15:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:37:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Found a recipe for lemony basmati
> >> brown rice that sounded divine! And it was, IMO. Will post if anyone
> >> wants
> >> it.
> >
> > I'm interested. I don't like long grain rice, but it's easy enough to
> > switch it for the brown rice I do like. Thanks.
>
> Okay. Lemme go to the kitchen and get it...

It's simple and delicious looking. I won't follow the recipe and make
exact measurements, but I will definitely try it soon. I am used to
cooking with brown rice, so I know how much water to add and I use a
rice cooker, so I don't worry about timing, I just estimate how long I
have to get the rest of the meal ready. Thanks!
>
> This is for 4 servings and of course if you change the rice you may need to
> change the amount of water and the cooking time.
>
> 1 cup brown basmati rice
> 1/2 teaspoon sea salt
> 1 tablespoon lemon juice
> 2 teaspoons finely grated fresh lemon rind
> 1 bay leaf
> 2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh parsley or 1 of dried
> 1 1/2 tablespoons butter or olive oil
>
> Rinse rice well. Bring to boil 2 cups water, salt, lemon juice and rind,
> bay leaf and parsley.
>
> Add rice. Bring back to boil then lower heat and cover.
>
> Simmer for 40 minutes or until water is absorbed.
>
> Turn off heat and let sit for 5 minutes, covered.
>
> Add butter or oil and mix gently with fork. Remove bay leaf.
>


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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 04/06/2013 7:18 AM, JBurns wrote:
>
>> I agree with the rest of your post, with an addition. This is the last
>> time I will say it because I am not going to pick on Julie, but I have
>> pointed out before that Julie indulges in the same passive aggresive
>> behaviour here by asking for suggestions/recipes and then shooting
>> them down one by one with the can't/won't mantra.
>>
>
> Don't worry about Bovine being picked on. She lives for the attention, and
> she would rather have people say nasty things about her than not be the
> centre of attention.

Sounds more like you! Not heard many of your long boring stories about your
fat relative for a wee while and all the food you are forced to feed her,
although we have been hearing about the rest of the relatives you complain
about. It really is a bit rich you complaining about Julie! Pot, kettle,
black springs to mind.
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
news
> On 04/06/2013 9:19 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>
>>> Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe
>>> once
>>> or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>>
>> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't want
>> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out
>> with your problem by offering a solution.
>>
>>
>
> Are you just learning that about Bovine? She will find a problem with
> every solution offered.
>

As well as having a problem with a comment like yours. There is no end to
it.

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 02:27:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>>>> That could be part of it. But there are also picky eaters in my
>>>> family.
>>>
>>>
>>> Johns Hopkins would love to interview your family. There are picky
>>> eaters, and trust me I know many. Then there is the Bove clan. I am
>>> not
>>> picking on you. But to think this is anything but a psychosis is just
>>> fooling yourself.
>>
>>Bove is my married name. On that side of the family, I can easily tell
>>you
>>what they will and won't eat. One SIL won't have mashed potatoes but will
>>eat any other form of potato. FIL was not a big meat eater. Hated fish.
>>Did not usually like beets but liked the way I made them and did eat them.
>>And had issues with the texture of onions. If I minced them up finely, he
>>had no issues. He just didn't like to find a big chunk of onion in
>>anything. And he would not eat rice because he said they didn't eat it
>>where he came from in Italy.

ok, now this is just being silly. Italy is one of the largest rice
consumers on earth. And I have never met a real Italian that would not eat
anything and everything. If he is so removed from Italy that he won't eat
this or that, his comment that they didn't eat rice in his part of Italy
(hard to believe) is contraindicated. Not to mention any Italian mother
would slap a kid up side the head if he didn't eat what was put in front of
him.

Hmm, there seems to be some inconsistency in this story of Julie's. Anyone
ever notice?

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
news
> On 04/06/2013 9:19 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>
>>> Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe
>>> once
>>> or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>>
>> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't want
>> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out
>> with your problem by offering a solution.
>>
>>
>
> Are you just learning that about Bovine? She will find a problem with
> every solution offered.

lol you can't miss a chance to do someone down eh? Makes you feel big and
important does it? You remind me of someone else here, how I wonder who it
could be ... <g>

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On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:46:46 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
wrote:

>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
> >> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of
> >> these things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different
> >> meals. And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat
> >> things that I'm not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have
> >> to make another meal.
> >
> > No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make it
> > for myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't eat it.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> and you don't post about it ad nauseum, so it truly is not a problem for
> anyone else.
>
Then there's the quandary where your loved one *loves* a certain item
but can't eat it for whatever reason. It's not very nice to make it
just for yourself, IMO. That's mainly what I save for eating in a
restaurant or for those nights when we'd be eating leftovers anyway (I
sneak some shrimp in the kitchen while he's watching TV in the den) -
he's none the wiser and I satisfy a craving.

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"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
>> subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing.
>
> You've got it all back to front. Julie makes her family her whipping
> boys; turning them into her excuse and justification for endless self-
> obsession and martyrdom.
>
>

not to mention we never really know how much of what she says is actually
true. I bet her family eats just like the rest of us.

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 02:27:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I was just
> reading last night that they no longer recommend the gout diet because they
> found that it did not help. Turns out that what you eat does not affect the
> purine levels in the body. It is the body itself that pumps this stuff out.

Hubby has found his gout triggers and controls his gout through diet
by not eating what triggers it.

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On 6/4/2013 10:12 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2013 9:19 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>>
>>>> Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe
>>>> once
>>>> or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>>>
>>> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't want
>>> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out
>>> with your problem by offering a solution.
>>>
>
(snippage)

> lol you can't miss a chance to do someone down eh? Makes you feel big
> and important does it? You remind me of someone else here, how I wonder
> who it could be ... <g>
>
It's nice you want to champion her, but really... Julie appears to ask
for suggestions yet always has a reason never to follow them. Freezing
hominy is the least of it.

Jill

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:19:23 -0500, barbie gee >
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
> > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Cheri wrote:
> >>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> No, it's not a problem. If I like something that others don't, I make
> >>>> it for myself. If I don't like something that they request, I don't
> >>>> eat it.
> >>>
> >>> But some things I like, like Hominy only come in a big can here. I know
> >>> they are made in smaller cans but I can't find them. So I open the big
> >>> can to have it once and then what? Nobody will eat the rest. I don't
> >>> necessarily want to eat it every night. So I just do without.
> >>
> >> Freeze it in portion sized ZipLock bags.
> >
> > Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe once
> > or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>
> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't want
> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out with
> your problem by offering a solution.
>
From my own experience, I HAVE said words to that effect and gotten
answers anyway. People do what they want to do, say what they want to
say.

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On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:14:12 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
wrote:

>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >, says...
> >
> >> We've been down this road before. They do it to keep you on a leash and
> >> subservient to them. It is a mind game and you are losing.
> >
> > You've got it all back to front. Julie makes her family her whipping
> > boys; turning them into her excuse and justification for endless self-
> > obsession and martyrdom.
> >
> >
>
> not to mention we never really know how much of what she says is actually
> true. I bet her family eats just like the rest of us.
>

The latest revelation that has me scratching my head is that she says
she has to limit carbs, but rice and pasta are never side dishes -
they are always the main meal. What?

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Julie Bove wrote:
> Do you have problems like this? A few things come to mind immediately.
> Polenta, black beans, black eyed peas, hominy. Yes, I can eat some of these
> things by myself but it does get annoying to always make different meals.
> And sometimes I just want what I want! I will sometimes eat things that I'm
> not so fond of but that they like, just so I don't have to make another
> meal.

I like fried chicken livers (with white gravy to dunk them in.) It's
not a problem because it's not something I eat very often; when I get
stuck going to Cracker Barrel, or some fried chicken places that have
'em on the menu, I order them there. Maybe once a year.

Also I like spicy foods a lot hotter than my wife does. So I make them
just barely hot, and then add cayenne or jalapeños to my portion.

Bob

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
>>My side of the family though... Extreme issues! Both parents. Brother
>>and
>>his wife. Wife's family. Their son does seem to eat most things but is
>>not
>>a sweets lover. But his fiance is a very picky eater.
>
> Extreme food issues are not inherited, they are learned behaviours. It
> seems to me that both you and your husband are apssing along these
> behaviours to Angela. The extreme food pickiness and also the abuse
> (see below). Angela is copying his lead WRT her behaviour in relation
> to you and food.

Husband is not a picky eater. He just complains about everything at home.
I tell him he is allergic to happiness.
>
> I know you try hard, you are always posting about new things to feed
> the ungrateful pair. This type of behaviour from your husband is
> extremely controlling and to my mind abuse. Really and truly I think
> you all need family counselling, to me your family looks dysfunctional
> but you all seem to be co-dependent on this dysfunction. Nothing will
> change unless you ALL can change, however I think that change will
> have to start with you. You do have the right to tell them to STFU,
> you know.

Agree with you on that. As to the counseling, he won't go. She and I have
tried but they found nothing wrong with us and couldn't help.
>
> You are playing that game though, by the very amount of time you spend
> obsessing about your and their food restrictions/dislikes. Look, I
> sympathise with trying to please a crowd, we are a household of seven,
> three that are plainer and pickier eaters than the others (to varying
> degrees). Usually the person who cooks (there are four of us who cook,
> aged 58, 51, 29 and 13) tries to cook something that everyone will eat
> but sometimes not. Anyone that will not eat what is on offer can make
> themselves a toasted sandwich or some version of eggs. We are always
> well stocked with provisions.

"They" don't have food restrictions. Only my daughter does. She was put on
a certain diet by a Dr. and it has since been modified by a dietician. I am
trying to find something that fits those parameters and takes into account
her food intolerances but she doesn't like most of the foods that fit those
paramaters.

Part of my problem now is that my husband literally will eat most anything.
Doesn't mean that he won't complain bitterly about it and tell me how bad it
was. But he also wants stuff that lots of people would normally eat, like
potato chips and watermelon. And she's not supposed to eat those things.
But if they're here and she can, she will sneak them.

> They are using that desire against you. Maybe you could direct that
> desire into a different type of cooking. What about trying jams,
> jellies, pickles, chutneys etc? It doesn't even matter if you don't
> use them, give them away. It does not have to be expensive if you can
> get free produce or even by making them in small amounts. The length
> of time taken by these cooking activities can be very satisfying and

Nobody here would eat jams, jellies or chutneys and I don't know anyone else
who would either. Or pickles. I buy them once in a while. Takes forever
to eat one jar. I did pick berries one year and made jam. Nobody I know
will eat home canned stuff. Or really even jam for that matter. It's not
at all satisfying for me to waste all that time only to find out that nobody
wants it. Same went for my applesauce and pears that I canned. Daughter
eats applesauce and pears. Just not the ones I make. She likes the little
single serve thing.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
> ok, now this is just being silly. Italy is one of the largest rice
> consumers on earth. And I have never met a real Italian that would not eat
> anything and everything. If he is so removed from Italy that he won't eat
> this or that, his comment that they didn't eat rice in his part of Italy
> (hard to believe) is contraindicated. Not to mention any Italian mother
> would slap a kid up side the head if he didn't eat what was put in front
> of him.
>
> Hmm, there seems to be some inconsistency in this story of Julie's. Anyone
> ever notice?

Rice is not eaten throughout Italy. I'm no expert on Italy but I have seen
Italian cooking shows. Part of Italy eats Risotto. But it's not common on
the other part. I believe my husband's family is from Sicily but I won't
swear to that because they themselves don't seem to know for sure.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/4/2013 10:12 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/06/2013 9:19 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Nah. Would never go back and eat it. I only really want hominy maybe
>>>>> once
>>>>> or twice a year. I do have to watch the carbs.
>>>>
>>>> when you're asking a rhetorical question, to which you really don't
>>>> want
>>>> an answer, please note it, so we won't bother trying to help you out
>>>> with your problem by offering a solution.
>>>>
>>
> (snippage)
>
>> lol you can't miss a chance to do someone down eh? Makes you feel big
>> and important does it? You remind me of someone else here, how I wonder
>> who it could be ... <g>
>>
> It's nice you want to champion her, but really... Julie appears to ask for
> suggestions yet always has a reason never to follow them. Freezing hominy
> is the least of it.

I don't especially want to champion anybody, but I get really sick of the
nastiness. Julie is Julie and if you don't know what she is like by now
and you don't kf her then live with it! Hell nobody is forcing you to read
her posts. Or is it that some people just love to belittle others! I
suppose it makes them feel big and important and clever. Trust me, if there
is someone here doesn't know how to use their kf they are the ones needing
help.
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