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Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks.
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel
> wrote: > >Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. Cut and add carrots, celery, onion. Toss in a bay leaf or two. Once the meat falls off the bone you can pick it out. Salt and pepper. When the carrots are cooked through you can add some noodles. It will be even better tomorrow. |
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Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel > > wrote: > >> >> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > Cut and add carrots, celery, onion. Toss in a bay leaf or two. Once > the meat falls off the bone you can pick it out. Salt and pepper. > When the carrots are cooked through you can add some noodles. > > It will be even better tomorrow. Plus potatoes, parsley. I keep noodles separate. Greg |
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On 3/16/2013 7:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel > > wrote: > >> >> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > Cut and add carrots, celery, onion. Toss in a bay leaf or two. Once > the meat falls off the bone you can pick it out. Salt and pepper. > When the carrots are cooked through you can add some noodles. > > It will be even better tomorrow. > I have never found *smoked* turkey to make good leftover anything (other than maybe a sandwich). I tried creamed turkey, turky pot pie, turky tetrazzini. Even after simmering I could still taste the smoke in the meat. Jill |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 3/16/2013 7:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >>> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. >> >> Cut and add carrots, celery, onion. Toss in a bay leaf or two. Once >> the meat falls off the bone you can pick it out. Salt and pepper. >> When the carrots are cooked through you can add some noodles. >> >> It will be even better tomorrow. >> > I have never found *smoked* turkey to make good leftover anything (other > than maybe a sandwich). I tried creamed turkey, turky pot pie, turky > tetrazzini. Even after simmering I could still taste the smoke in the > meat. > so why is that a problem? I just had a cup of smoked turkey broth to start my day. |
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On 3/17/2013 11:14 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 3/16/2013 7:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>>> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >>>> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. >>> >>> Cut and add carrots, celery, onion. Toss in a bay leaf or two. Once >>> the meat falls off the bone you can pick it out. Salt and pepper. >>> When the carrots are cooked through you can add some noodles. >>> >>> It will be even better tomorrow. >>> >> I have never found *smoked* turkey to make good leftover anything (other >> than maybe a sandwich). I tried creamed turkey, turky pot pie, turky >> tetrazzini. Even after simmering I could still taste the smoke in the >> meat. >> > > > so why is that a problem? I just had a cup of smoked turkey broth to start > my day. > > The problem is it didn't taste good. It was fine for just a turkey dinner but not for anything else. The smoked turkey overwhelmed it. Jill |
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jmcquown > wrote:
-snip- >> >The problem is it didn't taste good. It was fine for just a turkey >dinner but not for anything else. The smoked turkey overwhelmed it. I buy smoked turkey wings/necks/drumsticks for soup. I occasionally smoke a turkey breast- but haven't ever felt the urge to smoke a whole turkey. Jim |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > I have never found *smoked* turkey to make good leftover anything (other > than maybe a sandwich). I tried creamed turkey, turky pot pie, turky > tetrazzini. Even after simmering I could still taste the smoke in the meat. I bought "Liquid Smoke" once years ago. I think the ingredients were only hickory smoke and water. I used half the recommended amount on a steak and it was very overpowering and nasty. I never used it again and eventually threw the bottle in the trash. G. |
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On 3/17/2013 11:26 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >> >> I have never found *smoked* turkey to make good leftover anything (other >> than maybe a sandwich). I tried creamed turkey, turky pot pie, turky >> tetrazzini. Even after simmering I could still taste the smoke in the meat. > > I bought "Liquid Smoke" once years ago. I think the ingredients were only > hickory smoke and water. I used half the recommended amount on a steak and > it was very overpowering and nasty. I never used it again and eventually > threw the bottle in the trash. > > G. > My mother used to use Colgin's Liquid Smoke. For what, I don't know. I have a bottle of "Kitchen Bouquet Browning and Seasoning Sauce" in the cupboard. I have no idea how old it is. I'm saving it for when recipes from the 1960's come back in style. ![]() Jill |
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:39:22 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: > On 3/17/2013 11:26 AM, Gary wrote: > > jmcquown wrote: > >> > > > > I bought "Liquid Smoke" once years ago. I think the ingredients were only > > hickory smoke and water. I used half the recommended amount on a steak and > > it was very overpowering and nasty. I never used it again and eventually > > threw the bottle in the trash. > > > > G. > > > My mother used to use Colgin's Liquid Smoke. For what, I don't know. I > have a bottle of "Kitchen Bouquet Browning and Seasoning Sauce" in the > cupboard. I have no idea how old it is. I'm saving it for when recipes > from the 1960's come back in style. ![]() > Kitchen Bouquet is good for making a sauce that's too blonde darker. Seasoning, it's not. Maggi is one I tried, but it didn't cut the mustard for me. I prefer real (Chinese) soy sauce or Worcestershire, Maggi has a weird and weak "wannabe" flavor I just couldn't get used to. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > I bought "Liquid Smoke" once years ago. I think the ingredients were only > > hickory smoke and water. I used half the recommended amount on a steak and > > it was very overpowering and nasty. I never used it again and eventually > > threw the bottle in the trash. > My mother used to use Colgin's Liquid Smoke. For what, I don't know. I > have a bottle of "Kitchen Bouquet Browning and Seasoning Sauce" in the > cupboard. I have no idea how old it is. I'm saving it for when recipes > from the 1960's come back in style. ![]() But you got a charge from hearing about an ingredient somebody didn't like. Admit it. BTW, Garrrry, you probably used too much of LS. I shake in just a few drops when I make a sauce. I have learned through experience that if something has a strong taste, I should use it sparingly so as not to overpower the other flavors in the dish. You won't find common sense cooking like that in your Good Book. |
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:26:53 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> I bought "Liquid Smoke" once years ago. I think the ingredients were only > hickory smoke and water. I used half the recommended amount on a steak and > it was very overpowering and nasty. I never used it again and eventually > threw the bottle in the trash. Liquid smoke is best used by the drop and I use it whenever I want to evoke outside cooking... but I cringe every time I see a recipe using it in fractions of a cup. Even a tablespoon would be too much given the non-commercial amounts I make when I cook. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mar 17, 7:45*am, sf > wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:26:53 -0500, Gary > wrote: > > I bought "Liquid Smoke" once years ago. *I think the ingredients were only > > hickory smoke and water. I used half the recommended amount on a steak and > > it was very overpowering and nasty. *I never used it again and eventually > > threw the bottle in the trash. > > Liquid smoke is best used by the drop and I use it whenever I want to > evoke outside cooking... but I cringe every time I see a recipe using > it in fractions of a cup. *Even a tablespoon would be too much given > the non-commercial amounts I make when I cook. > > -- > Food is an important part of a balanced diet. I like to mix canned tuna and mayo with a couple of drops of liquid smoke and use that as a spread on crackers. Tasty! |
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel
> wrote: > >Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. For a smoked turkey carcass, I would use the broth for bean, lentil or split pea soup. Cook the carcass, drain, pick the meat off of the bones. Taste the meat. If it is almost tasteless because all the flavor has gone into the broth, share it with the dogs and cats. Otherwise, set aside to add to the soup later. Dice an onion , some celery, some carrot and add to the broth along with (depending upon how much broth you have), about one pound of whatever legume you have decided to use, salt and pepper and maybe a bit of garlic.. Simmer until everything is tender, check for salt. Eat. Janet US |
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 03:37:50 +0000, bigwheel
> wrote: > >Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. I forgot to mention for you to either skim the fat off of the hot broth or refrigerate the broth overnight and lift the solid disk of fat off in the morning and discard. Janet US |
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bigwheel wrote:
> > Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey > carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been > simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. Simmer your carcass for at least 12 hours to extract all the goodies. Then cool it off, skim off the hardened fat the next morning and proceed to make soup using your killer broth for the base. The last batch I made is my bestest ever. G. |
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On Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:07:47 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> bigwheel wrote: > > > > > > Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey > > > carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been > > > simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > > > Simmer your carcass for at least 12 hours to extract all the goodies. Then > > cool it off, skim off the hardened fat the next morning and proceed to make > > soup using your killer broth for the base. The last batch I made is my > > bestest ever. > > > > G. Smoked turkey is an abomination. There has never been a need for smoking turkey IMHO. Artificial smoke is particularly obnoxious and should be banned. |
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On 3/17/2013 11:50 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:07:47 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote: >> bigwheel wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >> >>> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >> >>> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. >> >> >> >> Simmer your carcass for at least 12 hours to extract all the goodies. Then >> >> cool it off, skim off the hardened fat the next morning and proceed to make >> >> soup using your killer broth for the base. The last batch I made is my >> >> bestest ever. >> >> >> >> G. > > Smoked turkey is an abomination. There has never been a need for smoking > turkey IMHO. Artificial smoke is particularly obnoxious and should be > banned. > That's why I said I couldn't make a darn thing that tasted good out of the leftover smoked turkey. (Granted, it was years ago my brother smoked the turkey, and a funny story.) Smoked turkey just doesn't work well in other dishes. YMMV. I won't say there was *never* a need for smoking turkey. Shooting a wild turkeys to provide food over a harsh winter when living on the frontier... but the last time I checked, it's 2013. Jill |
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 08:50:37 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote: > Smoked turkey is an abomination. There has never been a need for smoking > turkey IMHO. <shrug> I like it and used to make it for Thanksgiving when I had a charcoal Weber. Jill's right though. It's not good for much else although I enjoy it in sandwiches too. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mar 15, 5:37*pm, bigwheel >
wrote: > Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey > carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been > simmering for a good bit. *What is the next step? Thanks. > > -- > bigwheel We make jook, http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ |
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dsi1 wrote:
> > On Mar 15, 5:37 pm, bigwheel > > wrote: > > Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey > > carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been > > simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > We make jook, > > http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ I'm sure that tastes good but looks more like what the baby threw up. heheh What is Hawaiian Salt? Are you folks holding out on the rest of us? G. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:15:56 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > > On Mar 15, 5:37 pm, bigwheel > > > wrote: > > > Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey > > > carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been > > > simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > > > We make jook, > > > > http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ > > I'm sure that tastes good but looks more like what the baby threw up. heheh It's pretty darned good when made by ABCs (American Born Chinese), but I've had it in China and the old fashioned way is pretty bad. > What is Hawaiian Salt? Are you folks holding out on the rest of us? Where have you been Gary? They are not only surrounded by ocean, they will sell you sea salt in various colors too! http://www.hawaiisalt.com/welcome.htm http://www.nohbetter.com/index.php?m...&products_id=7 -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 3/18/2013 12:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: >> >> On Mar 15, 5:37 pm, bigwheel > >> wrote: >>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >>> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. >> >> We make jook, >> >> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ > > I'm sure that tastes good but looks more like what the baby threw up. heheh > What is Hawaiian Salt? Are you folks holding out on the rest of us? That's not a very appealing picture. The jook that I make looks a lot nicer. It used to be one of the few things that my mother-in-law would eat. My jook was turkey or chicken based with a prominent ginger taste. If you scorch the bottom of the pan, you get a wonderful taste - or you can just add some MSG. Essentially Hawaiian salt is just big granules of salt. I wouldn't use that in cooking unless I was seasoning a steak and wanted some crunch. > > G. > |
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dsi1 wrote:
>Gary wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >>> bigwheel wrote: >>> >>>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>>> carcasses. >>> >>> We make jook, >>> >>> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ >> >> I'm sure that tastes good but looks more like what the baby threw up. heheh > >That's not a very appealing picture. For something called "jook" it looks jook fine... with those lumps I bet it hurt spurting out. hehe >The jook that I make looks a lot nicer. Mayhaps folks would believe had you shown us yours. |
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On 3/18/2013 9:39 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: >> Gary wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> bigwheel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>>>> carcasses. >>>> >>>> We make jook, >>>> >>>> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ >>> >>> I'm sure that tastes good but looks more like what the baby threw up. heheh >> >> That's not a very appealing picture. > > For something called "jook" it looks jook fine... with those lumps I > bet it hurt spurting out. hehe > >> The jook that I make looks a lot nicer. > > Mayhaps folks would believe had you shown us yours. I'm sorry, since I'm not a liar, I don't feel the slightest need to provide photographic evidence. That's your bag, not mine. If you've ever made this soup or any other kind of chicken soup you'd already know that soup doesn't look anything like it does in the picture. Obviously, that's a fake prop photo for illustration purposes - sort of like the smutty food photos you try to pass off... > |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:51:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Mar 15, 5:37*pm, bigwheel > >wrote: >> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >> simmering for a good bit. *What is the next step? Thanks. >> >> -- >> bigwheel > >We make jook, > >http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ My wife just nudged me from the great beyond-- she wants some of that! Turkey- rice- and *salted turnip*! Never hear of it before-- but salt and turnip were 2 of her favorite foods. Here's a bit more about Chung choi for us mainlanders who aren't familiar with it- http://recipes.wikia.com/wiki/Chung_choy I might have seen the flat leaves labeled as mustard in the Asian supermarket. I'll be making some of this-- I just started thawing the turkey. I can't believe I've never browned the turkey bones before making stock-- As soon as I read that, I slapped myself in the head-- Of course you brown them! Jim |
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On 3/18/2013 1:12 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:51:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > wrote: > >> On Mar 15, 5:37 pm, bigwheel > >> wrote: >>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >>> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> bigwheel >> >> We make jook, >> >> http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2006/11...n-theres-jook/ > > My wife just nudged me from the great beyond-- she wants some of that! > Turkey- rice- and *salted turnip*! Never hear of it before-- but > salt and turnip were 2 of her favorite foods. I never make it with salted turnip but evidently lots of folks do. I slice ginger as thinly as I can and add it to the soup. No need to peel. It's good food for sick folks as well as those that are fit. If comfort food is food that takes up back in time to our childhood, this stuff probably takes us back as far as you can go. > > Here's a bit more about Chung choi for us mainlanders who aren't > familiar with it- > http://recipes.wikia.com/wiki/Chung_choy > > I might have seen the flat leaves labeled as mustard in the Asian > supermarket. > > I'll be making some of this-- I just started thawing the turkey. > > I can't believe I've never browned the turkey bones before making > stock-- As soon as I read that, I slapped myself in the head-- Of > course you brown them! I've never browned turkey bones either but that could work. I scorched the soup once and those parts were tasty. > > Jim > |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:30:26 -1000, dsi1
> wrote: > I never make it with salted turnip but evidently lots of folks do. I > slice ginger as thinly as I can and add it to the soup. No need to peel. > It's good food for sick folks as well as those that are fit. Ginger is SO good in simple chicken & rice soup... the fast kind where you just simmer raw chicken in water until done, shred and add it back to the broth with some precooked rice (mine isn't thick, like jook). Chopped green onion makes it pretty, but isn't absolutely necessary. I didn't realize my kids even liked it until DD told me recently that she craves "Mom's chicken and rice soup" when she's not feeling well. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 3/18/2013 11:25 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:30:26 -1000, dsi1 > > wrote: > >> I never make it with salted turnip but evidently lots of folks do. I >> slice ginger as thinly as I can and add it to the soup. No need to peel. >> It's good food for sick folks as well as those that are fit. > > Ginger is SO good in simple chicken & rice soup... the fast kind where > you just simmer raw chicken in water until done, shred and add it back > to the broth with some precooked rice (mine isn't thick, like jook). > Chopped green onion makes it pretty, but isn't absolutely necessary. > I didn't realize my kids even liked it until DD told me recently that > she craves "Mom's chicken and rice soup" when she's not feeling well. > I never liked jook when I was growing up - it seemed kind strange. I started making it for my mother-in-law and then found it to be kind of tasty. Laying some slices of Chinese roast pork would probably give it some extra appeal. The important thing to remember is that you have to use Japanese style short grain rice to make this dish. If you're making American style rice soup, long grain would be fine. |
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bigwheel,
Jook is the term for Chinese rice porridge soup, also known as Congee. Jook comes in a number of variations, from plain, to chicken, beef, turkey, even frog jook. I wouldn't doubt they sell rat and dog Jook somewhere in China. I don't know what websites you're looking at, but most popular dishes in Hawaii do not have SPAM in it. If you're interested in Jook, you might also be interested in Tinola, a Filipino soup made with Chicken and its stock, lots of ginger, green papaya and leaves called Malungay. Easy to prepare, Tinola is a very comforting and delicious soup, great for colds. Think of it as the asian version of Chicken Noodle Soup. Same for Jook. Here's how Tinola looks... http://tastyislandhawaii.com/images1...l_spoonful.jpg Grindz of the Day: Tatsuo’s, Chef Hardy’s Veal Burger, McD’s Saimin & Filipino Faves | The Tasty Island First time posting here. Aloha, Pomai The Tasty Island | Honolulu Food Blog Quote:
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"jay" > wrote in message
... > In article >, > bigwheel > wrote: > >> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > Sorry I'm late to the party but THROW it away! I highly respect > utilizing all parts of a good product but draw the line at the turkey > carcass and the string they tie it up with. For me it's garbage. When I > first read this I thought is said "diseased." > > jay Not! Cheri |
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jay wrote:
> > In article >, > bigwheel > wrote: > > > Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey > > carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been > > simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. > > Sorry I'm late to the party but THROW it away! I highly respect > utilizing all parts of a good product but draw the line at the turkey > carcass and the string they tie it up with. For me it's garbage. When I > first read this I thought is said "diseased." Each to his own but not using a turkey carcass for stock/broth is a sad waste, imo. It's a great base for vegetable soup. G. |
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On 3/18/2013 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
> jay wrote: >> >> In article >, >> bigwheel > wrote: >> >>> Ok..I hear about all the yankees making soup out of deceased turkey >>> carcasses...and I happen to have a left over smoked version. It been >>> simmering for a good bit. What is the next step? Thanks. >> >> Sorry I'm late to the party but THROW it away! I highly respect >> utilizing all parts of a good product but draw the line at the turkey >> carcass and the string they tie it up with. For me it's garbage. When I >> first read this I thought is said "diseased." > > Each to his own but not using a turkey carcass for stock/broth is a sad > waste, imo. It's a great base for vegetable soup. > > G. > But not "vegetarian" soup. ![]() I still say smoked turkey doesn't taste good when you try to use it for anything (other than sandwiches) after the main meal. BTDT. It didn't work. Jill |
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