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"Old fashioned" manners and dinner
"Cheri" > wrote in message ... > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> wrote: >>>>> Well, I guess I WILL post this here, if only to prove that I don't >>>>> really like uninvited mealtime guests. >>>>> >>>>> I thought I'd pass it on as an example of ridiculous, childish >>>>> writer-sensationalism. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.foodwoolf.com/2010/12/hungry-kids-in-us.html >>>>> >>>>> The author tells of being "hungry" at times in her childhood and >>>>> having, by her own admission, two neglectful parents (though oddly, >>>>> she doesn't actually say that she ever had fewer than three meals a >>>>> day). She came home from school one day at age 8 or 9, found nothing >>>>> for a SNACK for her and her little brother (and since her mother was >>>>> apparently sometimes at home at 3 p.m., that suggests she was a SAHM) >>>>> and after finding worms in the cereal (so maybe someone's buying too >>>>> MUCH food if it's rotting?), decided that she would go begging from >>>>> the house next door, since she's convinced the family is rich. She >>>>> describes the mother next door as a SAHM, despite her answering the >>>>> door in business clothes (what SAHM dresses like that? Clearly, >>>>> there's a lie in here somewhere). She doesn't seem to grasp that, now >>>>> that she's an ADULT, she should be more mad at her slovenly parents >>>>> than mad at the neighbor! >>>>> >>>>> Excerpts: >>>>> >>>>> .....As far as I was concerned, this idea of mine was going to be >>>>> easy. These people were sure to have more than enough food to spare. >>>>> They were going to thank me for taking all their extra cookies and >>>>> white bread off their hands. >>>>> >>>>> Once I got to the Drinkwater's front door, I rang the doorbell. I >>>>> recall waiting in silence as I daydreamed about the peanut butter and >>>>> Marshmallow fluff sandwiches I'd soon be eating........ >>>>> >>>>> "We're hungry," I said. "There's nothing in our house to eat." >>>>> >>>>> Mrs. Drinkwater said nothing for what felt like hours...... >>>>> >>>>> "Where is your mother?" she asked. >>>>> >>>>> "I don't know," I said...... >>>>> >>>>> "And your father? Where is he?" >>>>> >>>>> "He's at work," I said. >>>>> >>>>> She gripped the glass storm door. I couldn't understand why she kept >>>>> me outside on her snowy front step. I shifted my feet inside my >>>>> rubber boots. The fake fur had rubbed away and all I could feel were >>>>> my bare feet against rubber and snow. It was then I realized I had >>>>> made a very big mistake. I couldn't trust this woman for her help. >>>>> >>>>> I looked over my shoulder at my house. It seemed so far away from me >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> "I'm sorry to have bothered you," I said. >>>>> >>>>> "I will talk to your mother," Mrs. Drinkwater said. The click of the >>>>> knocker as the door closed was as loud as a yelled insult. >>>>> >>>>> ....I wish the story ended with Mrs. Drinkwater taking me aside and >>>>> giving me a little money. Or how a casserole miraculously appeared on >>>>> our front door the next day. But the real ending, was actually a >>>>> long, slow end that came in the form of many tears, more hungry days, >>>>> and lots of dealing with the neighbor's awkward looks....... >>>>> >>>>> (snip) >>>>> >>>>> I found the story at Bratfree. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/rea...2,89505,page=1 >>>>> >>>>> (Warning: Foul language ahead. If you'd rather skip the multiple >>>>> comments, I'll give some of the most relevant.) >>>>> >>>>> Miss Hannigan >>>>> Dec. 16, 2010 >>>>> This is clearly a one-sided tale. Allow me to put my Heartless Bitch >>>>> hat on. >>>>> You are Mrs. Drinkwater. You studied hard in school and take pride in >>>>> your house and do your best to provide for your children, whom you >>>>> could afford to have. A family moves in - they seem nice enough at >>>>> first, but you realize things arent well. You can hear their >>>>> screaming arguments every day through the window. The father works >>>>> late every night, but more than likely he's having a fling on the >>>>> side instead. Money is tight, and the landscaping suffers - was that >>>>> fast food garbage on the lawn all week? The kids are always dirty and >>>>> get into trouble at school too. >>>>> So when one of the neighbor's urchins shows up on your doorstep, it's >>>>> a slap in your face. How do these assholes afford a house in your >>>>> neighborhood, but still can't feed their damn dirty kids? It's not >>>>> your problem. You mentally note to call CPS and maybe bitch at the >>>>> mom - you've been looking for an excuse for a long time, and here it >>>>> is. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> navi8orgirl >>>>> Growing up Hungry......zzzzzzzzzz >>>>> December 16, 2010 >>>>> Ugh, I am on Team Drinkwater. Guess I am a heartless bitch too. I >>>>> decided to read the entire thing. "Trusted neighbor?" The woman >>>>> probably had no idea who this kid was because she never played with >>>>> her kids. >>>>> She probably stood there thinking, "They bought a house in an >>>>> affluent neighborhood and now it looks like shit which drags the >>>>> neighborhood down with it. They never paid us the time of day, their >>>>> kids were not friends with mine. And now their dirty kids show up on >>>>> my step begging for food?? While their mother is off getting >>>>> shitfaced someplace? I have to pay for these people with my taxes, >>>>> and I don't even get the benefit of a bigger tax credit." >>>>> repeat after me....if you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em. >>>>> >>>>> mulva >>>>> Growing up Hungry......zzzzzzzzzz >>>>> December 16, 2010 >>>>> Another Team Drinkwater here. Mrs. D knew damn well that if she fed >>>>> them once, they'd be over for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I never >>>>> expected anyone to give me anything in my life and I've never felt >>>>> entitled to other people's food. I'll bet the LW is one of those >>>>> jerks who steals food off of other people's plates in restaurants and >>>>> raid co-workers' lunch bags. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yurble: >>>>> You know what else I get from the summary? The did have food in the >>>>> house (lentils), just not readily accessible junk the kids wanted to >>>>> eat, "like chicken nuggets or white bread sandwiches with the crust >>>>> cut off." >>>>> I wonder if the parents were finally trying to live within their >>>>> means by buying inexpensive food instead of the crap their kids >>>>> wanted. Were the kids that hungry because they'd skipped meals >>>>> because they didn't like the food? I just wonder... assuming that's >>>>> not the case: >>>>> I blame the parents for not teaching them any cooking skills, and >>>>> teaching them a sense of entitlement instead. Perhaps the children >>>>> were hungry and should have been fed, but they weren't going to >>>>> starve if they missed a snack. It's no surprise that the author went >>>>> to the neighbor next door, and is still blaming that neighbor for >>>>> judging them. The author ought to blame her parents, not the >>>>> neighbor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> kidlesskim: >>>>> This actually sounds exactly like welfare whore mentality and she was >>>>> only eight years old! It's the typical breeder-whore analogy: "THEY >>>>> have plenty and should give me some of it! They shouldn't only mind >>>>> giving me what is rightfully theirs, but should THANK me while I take >>>>> it from them too!" This kyd could have some sort of a junk food >>>>> addiction too what with coveting white bread, chicken nuggets and >>>>> cookies, which is why the moo may have left the cabinets barren. Her >>>>> freezer could have been stocked with food, but since it wasn't junk >>>>> food then she was "hungry". Another thing too that was a red flag is >>>>> that she had JUST gotten home from school, so we KNOW that she had >>>>> lunch and if she had "just" gotten home, then it could only have been >>>>> about 3-4PM! The little brother probably filled his gullet before he >>>>> left whatever daycare he was in as well. She may have also been >>>>> leaving out important information too like she MAY have been a real >>>>> porker, what with >>>>> her vast knowledge of cookies, white bread without crusts, and >>>>> nuggets and all. >>>>> She's only 8 and is already casing out what other people have, >>>>> judging THEM, and feeling like that she deserves what they have >>>>> simply because they have too much and are "rich". I'd like to hear >>>>> Mrs. Drinkwater's side to this story. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SlumSlut: >>>>> she SAYS "All I knew was that we needed a snack". >>>>> >>>>> No one "needs" a SNACK. (except diabetics) >>>>> I'm with the people who think the parents didn't keep junk-food in >>>>> the house and the kids would go around acting like that was some kind >>>>> of torture. They probably saw what the other kids at school have in >>>>> their lunches (twinkles, doritos, etc.), and hatched this clever plan >>>>> to go around begging the neighbors for their "extra" junk food. It's >>>>> entirely possible that the parents of these brats went around to the >>>>> neighbors and said "If my kid ever asks you for something to eat, >>>>> don't give them anything. We don't allow our kids to eat between >>>>> meals because it ruins their appetites." OF COURSE Mrs. Drinkwater is >>>>> going to be giving you the stink-eye if you keep coming around with >>>>> stories about how you're "starving". >>>>> Either that, or she doesn't want to end up feeding you nuts or some >>>>> shit you're allergic to and getting sued for it. >>>>> >>>>> navi8orgirl: >>>>> They were not starving by any stretch. They were mad because there >>>>> were no snacks in the house. She was even more ****ed off at the >>>>> neighbor for refusing to give her snack food. She says it herself >>>>> when she speaks on how grateful they would be to unload all their >>>>> extra white bread and cookies on her. >>>> >>>> I don't really know why you posted this! And none of us were there so >>>> we can't really comment one way or the other. >>> >>>> When I was a kid, we had neighbors who were always "borrowing" things. >>>> They had a ton of kids in that house, some of them adults who had their >>>> own kids. The dad had some kind of head injury from being in the >>>> military and the oldest son had lost his life in the military. They >>>> once had an all expenses trip to see the president (I think it was >>>> Nixon) to get some sort of reward for the son. That was like the >>>> biggest thing that ever happened in their lives and they frequently >>>> mentioned it. They also said that the son came there in ghost form in >>>> the middle of the night and flushed the toilets. >>>> >>>> I spent the night there once, against my parent's wishes. Never again! >>>> They were a strange bunch. Dinner was candy bars and breakfast would >>>> have been pancakes made of flour and water with Karo syrup on them. I >>>> went home to get eggs, milk and real syrup and my mom kept me there. >>>> >>>> The kids told my brother and I that the dad would get a job just long >>>> enough to steal a large stockpile of whatever they sold. Fritos, >>>> candy, toothpaste, whatever. Then he'd either quit or get fired. They >>>> had two garbage cans in their kitchen. One contained potatoes and the >>>> other, onions. There was a lot more drama involving this family that I >>>> won't get into there. >>>> >>>> But recently my brother looked them up on the Interent. Turns out that >>>> none of the kids were even theirs but foster kids! Sad that they were >>>> kept in such living conditions. They were only renting the house but >>>> they left it in such a sorry state that it cost the owners a fortune >>>> getting it ready for sale. >>>> >>>> I had a friend who lived on another block. Her mom didn't work. But >>>> most moms didn't work in those days. Not sure what the dad did for a >>>> living but I do remember him bringing some bamboo poles home from work >>>> that we were told were holders for large rolls of carpeting. We used >>>> them to dance with. I can't remember the name of that kind of dancing >>>> but they taught it to us in school. One person manned each end of the >>>> two poles and they were banged together and held apart in certain >>>> patterns. The dancer or dancers would then work their feet in and out >>>> of the poles in various rythyms. >>>> >>>> These people did own their house but were very poor. The oldest son >>>> was an adult while I was still in elementary school. I was told that >>>> he had a drinking problems and perhaps the dad did too. Not sure. >>>> They always had food in the house but it had to be doled out very >>>> sparingly. I ate dinner at their house once and I felt very bad in >>>> doing so. They had sooo little food! I came home hungry and had to >>>> eat again. No wonder the family was so scrawny. They had pork chops. >>>> There was only enough meat for everyone to get about a 2" square. A >>>> can of vegetables was split between the 6 of us. There was a little >>>> brother but he hadn't been born at that point. I felt like had I not >>>> been there, they would have had more food to eat. But my friend had >>>> eaten dinner at our house so they had me over. That was what we did in >>>> those days. >>>> >>>> I remember an incident when a neighbor girl came over and was hungry. >>>> My friend told her that she wasn't allowed to eat there. The girl went >>>> into the kitchen and found the bread drawer. Why they kept the bread >>>> in a drawer was beyond me. But she ate a slice of it. The mom came >>>> home from wherever she had been, found the missing bread and freaked! >>>> We were told go home and my friend and her sister were punished. My >>>> mom said they had so little food there that the missing slice would >>>> mean that there wouldn't be enough food for the week. >>>> >>>> So it is possible to have food in the house and still not have enough >>>> to eat. A person can have three meals a day and still eat very little >>>> at each meal. >>>> >>>> As for the worms in the cereal... There are people who do buy old >>>> food. AFAIK we don't have any such places around here but I have seen >>>> places on TV where they sell expired food at deep discounts. People >>>> pick food out of the trash. Who knows what the situation was on that >>>> cereal? And sometimes people even buy food from a store that doesn't >>>> seem to be expired but it is bad. I've seen it happen. When I worked >>>> at KMart we had candy bars with nuts in them, returned because they had >>>> worms. We did not have expiration dates on the candy in those days. >>>> >>>> Children's minds also work in strange ways. When I was a child, I >>>> really wanted to go to boarding school. I had read stories about such >>>> schools and was convinced by going to one, I would have more freedom. >>>> I thought I would be able to smoke there and would have lots of money >>>> to spend. Children often do not know the ways of the world and yet they >>>> think they do. >>> >>> These were you own words to the other poster: >>> >>>> I don't really know why you posted this! And none of us were there so >>>> we can't really comment one way or the other. >> >> And I didn't comment on that story. > > > So you posted a really long story of your own where "none of us were there > so we can't really comment one way or the other." Yep. |
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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... > >>> So you posted a really long story of your own where "none of us were >>> there >> so we can't really comment one way or the other." > > Yep. FFS Learn to snip! |
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