On 10/12/2012 7:14 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:51:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>> I do have to wonder why the DNC list seems to have ceased being effective.
>>> It seemed to work wonders when it was first implemented.
>>>

I wonder too.

>> The rule is that if you have ever had any legitimate dealings with
>> their company (or subs), they have a legal right to call you. If they
>> are a political affiliation or religious group they can call you. If
>> you ever respond to them, they can claim that you have done business
>> with them. If you respond or call the number they give you to
>> discontinue the calls, you have affirmed that the phone number is a
>> live and good one.

You can still tell those who you've done business with, charities, etc,
to take you off of their lists. Politicians, no idea. Nothing works
with them and most of them are recordings, too.

>>
>> The most maddening one is 'Rachel'. She's a computer call and she
>> never gives up. She's the one who calls about better rates for your
>> credit cards. The proper response for a computer call is Just Hang Up.
>> For a live person you say "No, please don't call again, take my name
>> off of your list."

The frustrating thing about "Rachel" is that if you select the option on
your phone to talk to a rep, as soon as you say to stop calling, they
hang up. The numeric option to take you off their list does the same
thing. I have just listed all of the recent calls from Credit Card
Services in the last couple of weeks and am going to file complaints. I
work for the contractor and directly deal with the FTC on the DNC
registration database so sometimes I answer just to tell these
telemarketers just that, and can never get a live person on the phone.
They're really getting out of control lately!

>>
>> The folks claiming to be a tech from Microsoft is a brand new scam
>> that has caught so many people that the Feds have put out an alert
>> citizens. The people claiming to be from your phone company and
>> wanting to sign you up for something or check something will drive you
>> to curses and tears.

I haven't heard about that one. Will have to do some checking.

>>
>> Basically, unless you have initiated something with a company, you
>> just have to hang up.
>>
>> Thank you. It felt good to get that off my chest. I
>>
>> Janet US
>
> Much easier to not answer to begin with. If it's important they'll leave
> a message. Nothing is so important it can't wait a few minutes.
>

On 10/12/2012 9:12 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 10/12/2012 7:14 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:51:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>>> > wrote:
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> I do have to wonder why the DNC list seems to have ceased being
>>>> effective.
>>>> It seemed to work wonders when it was first implemented.
>>>>
>
> I wonder too.

US laws do not apply outside of the US. You are a scammer and set up
shop say in Mumbai and it costs you next to nothing to use VoIP for calling.


>
>>> The rule is that if you have ever had any legitimate dealings with
>>> their company (or subs), they have a legal right to call you. If they
>>> are a political affiliation or religious group they can call you. If
>>> you ever respond to them, they can claim that you have done business
>>> with them. If you respond or call the number they give you to
>>> discontinue the calls, you have affirmed that the phone number is a
>>> live and good one.
>
> You can still tell those who you've done business with, charities, etc,
> to take you off of their lists. Politicians, no idea. Nothing works
> with them and most of them are recordings, too.
>
>>>
>>> The most maddening one is 'Rachel'. She's a computer call and she
>>> never gives up. She's the one who calls about better rates for your
>>> credit cards. The proper response for a computer call is Just Hang Up.
>>> For a live person you say "No, please don't call again, take my name
>>> off of your list."
>
> The frustrating thing about "Rachel" is that if you select the option on
> your phone to talk to a rep, as soon as you say to stop calling, they
> hang up. The numeric option to take you off their list does the same
> thing. I have just listed all of the recent calls from Credit Card
> Services in the last couple of weeks and am going to file complaints. I
> work for the contractor and directly deal with the FTC on the DNC
> registration database so sometimes I answer just to tell these
> telemarketers just that, and can never get a live person on the phone.
> They're really getting out of control lately!
>
>>>
>>> The folks claiming to be a tech from Microsoft is a brand new scam
>>> that has caught so many people that the Feds have put out an alert
>>> citizens. The people claiming to be from your phone company and
>>> wanting to sign you up for something or check something will drive you
>>> to curses and tears.
>
> I haven't heard about that one. Will have to do some checking.
>
>>>
>>> Basically, unless you have initiated something with a company, you
>>> just have to hang up.
>>>
>>> Thank you. It felt good to get that off my chest. I
>>>
>>> Janet US
>>
>> Much easier to not answer to begin with. If it's important they'll leave
>> a message. Nothing is so important it can't wait a few minutes.
>>
>