Sheldon "I dropped my ass and I can't get up" mocks poor Julie.

> >Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> >length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> >center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs.
>
> Now Julie is going to ask if those degrees are Fahrenheit or
> Centigrade.

If you really wanted to be helpful, you'd remind poor Julie that a
180-degree arc is equivalent to a 1-radian arc. But will you ever be
helpful? No, you're too busy groveling five times a day with your ass
in the air.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> Bull wrote:
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> "Bull" > wrote in message
>>>> >
>>>> >> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>>>> >> do it?
>>>> >
>>>> > The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip all
>>>> > the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one.
>>>> > when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
>>>> > Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
>>>> > the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard to
>>>> > do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
>>>> > There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
>>>> > mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's in
>>>> > there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
>>>> > "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>>>>
>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>
>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on a
>>> tape measure.
>>
>>But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>
> Diameter is that number on your bra size label.

Not telling you what that is.

"Bull" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 07:19:28 -0400, The Cook >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>> In article >,
>> >>> says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bull wrote:
>> >>>> > In article >,
>> >>>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> "Bull" > wrote in message
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do
>> >>>> >> you
>> >>>> >> do it?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip
>> >>>> > all
>> >>>> > the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
>> >>>> > Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
>> >>>> > the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
>> >>>> > There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
>> >>>> > mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's
>> >>>> > in
>> >>>> > there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
>> >>>> > "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>> >>>> I am not good with math.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a number on
>> >>> a
>> >>> tape measure.
>> >>
>> >>But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>> >
>> >Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>
>> Then what's circumference? duh
>
> Andy could you draw up a pepperoni circumcision?

Ew. I don't want to see that.

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Apr 2, 11:00 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> news:9915747.2067.1333425238531.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:40:08 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> news:8712123.454.1333422758312.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc41...
>>>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 11:12:13 AM UTC-5, Pennyaline wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the
>>>>>> damned thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan
>>>>>> things in my parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had
>>>>>> them in one of my kitchens once, and I've not experienced
>>>>>> anything flying off. Falling over, yes, but never falling off or
>>>>>> flying anywhere.
>>
>>>>> If things are flying off because you are having to use so much
>>>>> force to turn this lazy susan then it needs to be adjusted so it
>>>>> will turn easily.
>>>>> And why do these shelves HAVE to be lined???
>>
>>>> They are made of porous wood. If I had the plastic ones, I wouldn't
>>>> bother
>>>> to line them. I guess technically they don't *have* to be lined
>>>> especially
>>>> since I have everything in the one cupboard in plastic containers.
>>>> However
>>>> the previous owner had lined them with Contact paper that was
>>>> ripped and bad
>>>> looking. It didn't peel up fully and neither did the paper that I
>>>> put on there. So there's a lot of adhesive with paper stuck to it
>>>> here and there.
>>>> Looks like crap. Plus I sprayed the one with bug spray after I got
>>>> the weevils. I would just feel safer to have a layer of something
>>>> between it and my food.
>>
>>>> My cupboard apparently isn't typical from what I have just looked
>>>> at online
>>>> because the cabinet front is attached to the lazy Susan. This (I
>>>> think) in
>>>> and of itself is causing it to go off balance. That and the way the
>>>> cabinet
>>>> front fits into the opening. I think the wood swells and causes it
>>>> to stick. Sometimes it will only go one way and not the other.
>>
>>> My double lazy susan has the cabinet door attached to the shelves
>>> and looke like a large pie wedge. How would those shelves fair if
>>> you painted them?
>>
>> I don't know but... I don't like to use paint and with a curious
>> little kitten in the house it probably wouldn't go so well. I
>> wouldn't think most paint would be washable though and if I did get
>> that kind it would require many coats of paint given how porous that
>> wood is.
>
> You don't like to use paint, but you willingly spray BUG SPRAY inside
> a FOOD STORAGE AREA. I give up. I actually don't know how you manage
> to wake up in the morning or use a computer.

Well I don't really see how the paint would help anyway. In order to paint,
I would have to sand it all down and that would be a PITA. Then I don't
think it could be cleaned very well. I would still have to line it. No? I
lived in an apartment with painted shelves and I still lined those.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:08:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> nit> wrote in
>>>> message ...
>>>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the
>>>>>> shelf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>>>
>>>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if
>>>> you stack
>>>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off. The
>>>> other cupboard is the one I use for flour and baking things.
>>>> Everything in there
>>>> is now in a plastic container so not likely to fall off. But
>>>> prior I just
>>>> had the bags in there. They were all small bags because these were
>>>> alternate flours like rice and tapioca. The bags would fall off
>>>> of the ends.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll ask again: The "shelves" of your lazy susan have "ends"? You
>>> mean to say that they are not a level or two of complete circles
>>> that turn on a center post?
>>
>> Here's a pic of something similar. This isn't exactly what mine is
>> because mine is all wood and is attached to the cabinet fronts.
>> It's the pie cut. Mine has two shelves.
>>
>> http://www.cabinetparts.com/c/kitche...FQOEhwod3n10xg
>
> Those things waste a lot of space... I'd remove them. I have two
> corner cabinets that are quite deep, so I use them to store tall items
> like paper towels stacked on end, aluminum foil/wax paper, plastic
> wrap boxes on end, 2 liter soda bottles, way into the depths gallon
> jugs of emergency water, and near the front 1.75 L bottles of Crystal
> Palace. I wouldn't think to store canned goods in any bottom cabinet,
> they are all too deep and too low... I hate creeping about on the
> floor to find stuff. Bottom cabinets are for storing large items one
> doesn't use on a daily basis, even a monthly basis. But I do use
> those small plastic lazy susans from Rubbermaid (I have three) in one
> of my upper cabinets for storing spice bottles; items on the lazy
> susan and items around the perimeter, no wasted space. I don't store
> many canned goods and rarely used items in my kitchen, that's what a
> basement is for.

I haven't got much choice. I have no pantry and most of my top cupboards
are filled with dishes and casseroles. I do not have a lot of those either.
I have one small cupboard with cat food. One with rice and pasta, one with
spices, one with oil, vinegar, nuts, and any other smallish things that I
can't put anywhere else. Every cupboard I have is full to the max. The top
of my fridge is full of things like crackers and beef jerky. And I've had
to put a shelving unit in my dining room for chips and cereal.

As I said before and I know you will make a joke about it... If I remove
the lazy Susan there will be a gaping hole. Not even cupboard doors because
they are attached to the lazy Susan. Hardly a good place to store things.

My other lower cabinets are all pullouts and also a bad design in that they
are shallow and things are constantly bailing over the back. For this
reason I try not to pull them out. One has pots and pans. One has baking
pans, tortilla warmers, larger plastics, and the other has bags and wraps.

There are no other cupboards. If I remember correctly there are 13 total.
Some of them very small.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:00:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> news:9915747.2067.1333425238531.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8...
>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 10:40:08 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> news:8712123.454.1333422758312.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc41...
>>>>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 11:12:13 AM UTC-5, Pennyaline wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the
>>>>>> damned thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan
>>>>>> things in my parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had
>>>>>> them in one of my kitchens once, and I've not experienced
>>>>>> anything flying off. Falling over, yes, but never falling off or
>>>>>> flying anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If things are flying off because you are having to use so much
>>>>> force to turn this lazy susan then it needs to be adjusted so it
>>>>> will turn easily.
>>>>> And why do these shelves HAVE to be lined???
>>>>
>>>> They are made of porous wood. If I had the plastic ones, I
>>>> wouldn't bother
>>>> to line them. I guess technically they don't *have* to be lined
>>>> especially
>>>> since I have everything in the one cupboard in plastic containers.
>>>> However
>>>> the previous owner had lined them with Contact paper that was
>>>> ripped and bad
>>>> looking. It didn't peel up fully and neither did the paper that I
>>>> put on there. So there's a lot of adhesive with paper stuck to it
>>>> here and there.
>>>> Looks like crap. Plus I sprayed the one with bug spray after I
>>>> got the weevils. I would just feel safer to have a layer of
>>>> something between it and my food.
>>>>
>>>> My cupboard apparently isn't typical from what I have just looked
>>>> at online
>>>> because the cabinet front is attached to the lazy Susan. This (I
>>>> think) in
>>>> and of itself is causing it to go off balance. That and the way
>>>> the cabinet
>>>> front fits into the opening. I think the wood swells and causes
>>>> it to stick. Sometimes it will only go one way and not the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> My double lazy susan has the cabinet door attached to the shelves
>>> and looke like a large pie wedge. How would those shelves fair if
>>> you painted them?
>>
>> I don't know but... I don't like to use paint and with a curious
>> little kitten in the house it probably wouldn't go so well. I
>> wouldn't think most paint would be washable though and if I did get
>> that kind it would require many coats of paint given how porous that
>> wood is.
>
> Nancy Young's suggestion; self stick floor tiles, inexpensive and easy
> to cut with scissors. And washable paint is readily available, it's
> called deck enamel, used to paint concrete floors but can be used on
> wood too... both oil based and water based are available... there are
> also very nice epoxy paints, more expensive but you don't need much
> for lazy susans. Personally I'd remove those lazy susans and toss
> them into the trash.

I might go with the tiles the next time I have to line. But the paint would
be a PITA. Would you want to paint with your cats around? My little one
would be right in it. Plus to get the remains of the paper off that is
there now I would have to sand it down.

George M. Middius wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
>
>> Brain fart on my part. My brain thinks one thing and my fingers do
>> another. I really do know the difference. I figured out the volume
>> of a round cake pan a couple of days ago.
>
> I don't have a round cake pan, but I do have two oblong ones (6x9 and
> 9x13). Suppose I were Julie, and I wanted to bake something that
> called for an 8" round pan. Whatever would I do?

Recipes generally tell you how to make those adjustments. If they did not I
would look it up online. I did look up how to line the lazy Susan and
didn't get an answer. That is why I asked here. Oh and I pretty much gave
up baking years ago.

jmcquown wrote:
> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 4/2/2012 8:33 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I would love to get rid of them but I can't afford to redo my
>>> kitchen. I don't even have room to store paper products in the
>>> kitchen. They are in the garage. I do have a small pullout
>>> cabinet to store things like plastic
>>> bags. I freaking hate those pullouts too but all of my lower
>>> cabinets are
>>> those. Things fall behind just as they fly off the shelves of the
>>> lazy Susan. I just ordered some new reaching tools. It is hard
>>> for me to get back there.
>>
>>
>> Why do things "fly off the shelves"? How hard to you spin the damned
>> thing? I've dealt with those corner cupboard lazy susan things in my
>> parents' homes and my siblings' homes, and I had them in one of my
>> kitchens once, and I've not experienced anything flying off. Falling
>> over, yes, but never falling off or flying anywhere.
>
>
> Exactly! I had one lazy susan cabinet in a kitchen years ago. I
> stored jars of spices and bottles of things like worcestershire,
> teriyaki and other bottled sauces there. I certainly didn't spin it
> so hard things flew off to the back of the cabinet!
>
> I don't have a lazy susan-type cabinet now. I do have a wooden lazy
> susan on the counter next to the stove for the always go-to herbs and
> spices And a smaller one in one of the cabinets for the
> aforementioned bottles. Still, stuff doesn't fly off the shelves. I
> don't spin them like roulette wheels.

When shut the doors stick. You have to push pretty hard to get it to move
at all. So the things fly off. My doors are attached to the front. You
don't just open the door or doors and spin it. You have to push the doors
in.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 03/04/2012 12:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
> off to the back of the cabinet!
>>
>> I don't have a lazy susan-type cabinet now. I do have a wooden lazy
>> susan on the counter next to the stove for the always go-to herbs and
>> spices And a smaller one in one of the cabinets for the
>> aforementioned bottles. Still, stuff doesn't fly off the shelves. I
>> don't spin them like roulette wheels.
>>
>>
>
> My parents had one and we had one for a while. I sure didn't have to
> move it hard to make things fall over or to fall off the shelf. Many
> items were lost in the far corner.

Yes! Thank YOU! I have to keep a reaching tool near the cabinets for this
reason.

jmcquown wrote:
> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> nit> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the
>>>>> shelf.
>>>>
>>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>>
>>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if you
>>> stack
>>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off.
> (snippage)
>
> So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't
> designed for stacking canned goods.
>
> Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are
> built-in lazy susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one
> instance where I'd like to see a photograph of all these (opened)
> lazy-susan style cabinets.

No. Two are lazy Susans and three are pullouts. And I'm not gonna take a
pic for you. I did look online to try to find one like mine. I did not. I
am thinking they realized this was a bad design and quit making them this
way.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:15:36 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 4/2/2012 7:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> nit> wrote in
>>>> message ...
>>>>> On 4/2/2012 3:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> There is nothing at the end to keep the items at the end on the
>>>>>> shelf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of a lazy susan??
>>>>
>>>> Not on the one I have. It has a very shallow lip on it. But if
>>>> you stack
>>>> two cans high which I have to do, the top can will fall off.
>> (snippage)
>>
>> So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't
>> designed for stacking canned goods.
>>
>> Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are
>> built-in lazy susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one
>> instance where I'd like to see a photograph of all these (opened)
>> lazy-susan style cabinets.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Here you can see my spice storage with three Rubbermaid lazy susans:
> http://i43.tinypic.com/f23u52.jpg
> Long ago I rented an appartment that had lazy susans in bottom corner
> cabinests, I removed them to storage in the landlord's garage... those
> deep corner cabinets were more suitable for storing large bulky items.

I have two of those too in my spice cabinet. But that is not how my lazy
Susan cabinet looks.

Pennyaline wrote:
> On 4/3/2012 8:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "The > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bull wrote:
>>>>>>> In >,
>>>>>>> "Julie > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how
>>>>>>>> do you do it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a
>>>>>>> lip all the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and
>>>>>>> cut one. when you have the circle make a split to the center
>>>>>>> for the post. Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it
>>>>>>> fits. Then trace to the liner cut another one. Takes a little
>>>>>>> time but not that hard to do. My house was built about 1990 and
>>>>>>> those were the thing then. There are much better storage
>>>>>>> solutions today - but I'm not taking mine out because I am
>>>>>>> never changing the cabinets. I know what's in there and don't
>>>>>>> have a problem with it. It is way better than a "dead space"
>>>>>>> corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a
>>>>> number on a tape measure.
>>>>
>>>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>>>
>>> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>
>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>> can't access all of it at once.
>
>
> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
> outside of a circle is its circumference.

I won't remember that but thanks.

Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> t says...
>>
>
>>>>>>>> "Julie > wrote:
>
>>>>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a
>>>>>> number on a tape measure.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>>
>>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>>> can't access all of it at once.
>>
>>
>> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
>> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
>> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
>> outside of a circle is its circumference.
>
> More hard words.
>
> Bisect.. an insect that lost four legs
> Arc.. get that welder out and fix the lazy susan
> Degree..not available for graduating ninth grade.

I got A's in math. We just never studied that stuff.

George M. Middius wrote:
> Pennyaline wrote:
>
>> Listen Julie, the diameter of a circle is its full width across--the
>> length of a straight line running between two points that bisects the
>> center and creates two equal 180 degree arcs. The distance around the
>> outside of a circle is its circumference.
>
> Nice use of 4th-grade terminology.
>
> For julie: A "straight line" is like a piece of string pulled tight.
> "Bisect" means to cut in two pieces of the same size. The "center" is
> the middle. "180 degrees" means halfway around a circle, like from 12
> o'clock to 6 o'clock on a round clock. (A clock is a device we use to
> keep track of time.) An "arc" is a curve, like in the road or around
> the edge of a baseball. Don't even worry about "circumference".
>
> You're welcome.

Thanks.

Sky wrote:
> On 4/3/2012 12:53 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of
>>>> paper or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke
>>>> a hole at the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to
>>>> trace it on your material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.
>>>
>>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>>
>> Google it FFS.
>>
>> Lou
>
> More than likely she doesn't even know what a compass is, and I don't
> mean the sort that shows which direction is N.

I know that a compass is that pokey thing that they aren't allowed to use in
school here. We had one but it was tiny. Would only measure a few inches.

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:25:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of
>>>>> paper or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke
>>>>> a hole at the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to
>>>>> trace it on your material. You'll need to trim it out at the
>>>>> axle.
>>>>
>>>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>>>
>>> Google it FFS.
>>
>> Come on Lou. I don't think you are so unkind ... Not even Shel is
>> trashing her.
>
> She doesn't want to help herself. Several posters have given her
> plenty of answers but she seems to want someone to come over and do it
> for her.

And I thanked them. Didn't I?

Now I just have to wait till Sunday when I get a newspaper to begin the
lining process.

Ophelia wrote:
> "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:25:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of
>>>>>> paper or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and
>>>>>> poke a hole at the measured end and use a pencil through the
>>>>>> hole to trace it on your material. You'll need to trim it out
>>>>>> at the axle.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>>>>
>>>> Google it FFS.
>>>
>>> Come on Lou. I don't think you are so unkind ... Not even Shel is
>>> trashing her.
>>
>> She doesn't want to help herself. Several posters have given her
>> plenty of answers but she seems to want someone to come over and do
>> it for her.
>
> Never mind. Her husband will be home soon. I doubt she will be
> worried about such mundane things

He would never line a cupboard!

The Cook wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:35:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "The Cook" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bull wrote:
>>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bull" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how
>>>>>>>> do you do it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a
>>>>>>> lip all the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and
>>>>>>> cut one. when you have the circle make a split to the center
>>>>>>> for the post. Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it
>>>>>>> fits. Then trace to the liner cut another one. Takes a little
>>>>>>> time but not that hard to do. My house was built about 1990 and
>>>>>>> those were the thing then. There are much better storage
>>>>>>> solutions today - but I'm not taking mine out because I am
>>>>>>> never changing the cabinets. I know what's in there and don't
>>>>>>> have a problem with it. It is way better than a "dead space"
>>>>>>> corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a
>>>>> number on a tape measure.
>>>>
>>>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>>>
>>> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>
>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>> can't access all of it at once.
>>
>
>
> In that case measure from the center to an outer edge. Take a string
> and tie a pencil to one end. Measure from the pencil to the length
> you just measured. Then hold the other end on the piece of paper.
> Draw a circle. Cut it out and test it in the circle.It should fit
> pretty well and you can make whatever adjustments you need.

I don't HAVE a circle. It's the pie shaped one.

In article >, says...
>
> George M. Middius wrote:
> > The Cook wrote:
> >
> >> Brain fart on my part. My brain thinks one thing and my fingers do
> >> another. I really do know the difference. I figured out the volume
> >> of a round cake pan a couple of days ago.
> >
> > I don't have a round cake pan, but I do have two oblong ones (6x9 and
> > 9x13). Suppose I were Julie, and I wanted to bake something that
> > called for an 8" round pan. Whatever would I do?
>
> Recipes generally tell you how to make those adjustments. If they did not I
> would look it up online.

Like you looked up diameter and axis.

Janet

In article >, says...
>
> Sky wrote:
> > On 4/3/2012 12:53 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lou Decruss wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of
> >>>> paper or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke
> >>>> a hole at the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to
> >>>> trace it on your material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.
> >>>
> >>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
> >>
> >> Google it FFS.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> > More than likely she doesn't even know what a compass is, and I don't
> > mean the sort that shows which direction is N.
>
> I know that a compass is that pokey thing that they aren't allowed to use in
> school here. We had one but it was tiny. Would only measure a few inches.

They shoulda shown you how to draw circles with a ruler .

Janet

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> George M. Middius wrote:
>> > The Cook wrote:
>> >
>> >> Brain fart on my part. My brain thinks one thing and my fingers do
>> >> another. I really do know the difference. I figured out the volume
>> >> of a round cake pan a couple of days ago.
>> >
>> > I don't have a round cake pan, but I do have two oblong ones (6x9 and
>> > 9x13). Suppose I were Julie, and I wanted to bake something that
>> > called for an 8" round pan. Whatever would I do?
>>
>> Recipes generally tell you how to make those adjustments. If they did
>> not I
>> would look it up online.
>
> Like you looked up diameter and axis.

Ya'll keep talking about a circle and I am not dealing with a circle. So I
really don't need to look those terms up.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> Sky wrote:
>> > On 4/3/2012 12:53 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> >>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:31:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>>> Measure from the axis to the end of the circle. Take a strip of
>> >>>> paper or cardboard and use a thumb tack to hold the axis and poke
>> >>>> a hole at the measured end and use a pencil through the hole to
>> >>>> trace it on your material. You'll need to trim it out at the axle.
>> >>>
>> >>> What's an axis? I really am not good at math.
>> >>
>> >> Google it FFS.
>> >>
>> >> Lou
>> >
>> > More than likely she doesn't even know what a compass is, and I don't
>> > mean the sort that shows which direction is N.
>>
>> I know that a compass is that pokey thing that they aren't allowed to use
>> in
>> school here. We had one but it was tiny. Would only measure a few
>> inches.
>
> They shoulda shown you how to draw circles with a ruler .

Why would I have to draw circles? The only time I ever had to do circles
was in art class. We were told to trace around something round.

On 03/04/2012 12:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't
> designed for stacking canned goods.
>


What else can you put on a lazy susan? They usually aren't designed
hold heavy stuff. If you use them for glass containers there is the
chance that they will fly off and break. The doors aren't usually large
enough to use them for pots, pans and appliances.



> Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are built-in
> lazy susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one instance where I'd
> like to see a photograph of all these (opened) lazy-susan style cabinets.


I can't recall ever seeing lazy susans anywhere but corners is a limited
number of corners a square room. Come to think of it, I have never seen
more than one lazy susan in any one kitchen.

On 02/04/2012 6:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> But then I'd be left with a big gaping hole!
>
> No, I'm not going to say it.

I'll bet you were thinking the same thing I was.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
. com...
> On 03/04/2012 12:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't
>> designed for stacking canned goods.
>>
>
>
> What else can you put on a lazy susan? They usually aren't designed hold
> heavy stuff. If you use them for glass containers there is the chance
> that they will fly off and break. The doors aren't usually large enough
> to use them for pots, pans and appliances.
>
>
>
>> Seems Julie is now telling us most of her kitchen cabinets are built-in
>> lazy susans. I simply don't believe it. This is one instance where I'd
>> like to see a photograph of all these (opened) lazy-susan style cabinets.
>
>
> I can't recall ever seeing lazy susans anywhere but corners is a limited
> number of corners a square room. Come to think of it, I have never seen
> more than one lazy susan in any one kitchen.

Mine has two but I think one is much more common.

On 4/3/2012 4:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
>
>>
>> In that case measure from the center to an outer edge. Take a string
>> and tie a pencil to one end. Measure from the pencil to the length
>> you just measured. Then hold the other end on the piece of paper.
>> Draw a circle. Cut it out and test it in the circle.It should fit
>> pretty well and you can make whatever adjustments you need.
>
> I don't HAVE a circle. It's the pie shaped one.

V-8 Moment! DOH, you're that stupid you don't know a pie-shape is a
circle! Yeesh! A "piece of pie" is a "wedge"! Now use the dictionary
and read - but alas, your comprehension level is nearly nil. Hopefully,
your gene pool is limited to your one 'issue'.

Sky, who now believes this "Julie Bove" character is not a troll - it's
a mindless glob of ectoplasm with no capability of 'thinking' or
'extrapolating' various concepts to different applications.

P.S. I'm in a 'mood' today - so excuse me since I'm 'testy' of late

--

Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On 4/3/2012 5:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Ya'll keep talking about a circle and I am not dealing with a circle. So I
> really don't need to look those terms up.

A "lazy susan" by definition IS a circle - DUH! Just how idiotic are
you? Don't you have the capability to 'thing things through' and
'solve' simple problems on your own with some iota of comprehension?

Sky, who's unusually testy today - apologies to the other RFC folks

--

Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

Sky wrote:

>> Ya'll keep talking about a circle and I am not dealing with a circle.
>> So I really don't need to look those terms up.
>
> A "lazy susan" by definition IS a circle - DUH! Just how idiotic are
> you? Don't you have the capability to 'thing things through' and 'solve'
> simple problems on your own with some iota of comprehension?
>
> Sky, who's unusually testy today - apologies to the other RFC folks

This is the first post I've read from this thread. I see I'm not missing
anything, so the rest of the thread is hereby consigned to oblivion as
far as I'm concerned.

Bob

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/3/2012 4:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> The Cook wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In that case measure from the center to an outer edge. Take a string
>>> and tie a pencil to one end. Measure from the pencil to the length
>>> you just measured. Then hold the other end on the piece of paper.
>>> Draw a circle. Cut it out and test it in the circle.It should fit
>>> pretty well and you can make whatever adjustments you need.
>>
>> I don't HAVE a circle. It's the pie shaped one.
>
> V-8 Moment! DOH, you're that stupid you don't know a pie-shape is a
> circle! Yeesh! A "piece of pie" is a "wedge"! Now use the dictionary
> and read - but alas, your comprehension level is nearly nil. Hopefully,
> your gene pool is limited to your one 'issue'.
>

Yes. I do know that. I also know there is no need for me to cut out a
whole circle to make a pattern. It has been explained to me how to do this.
I thanked the people who explained it in a way I can understand. I do not
know why people keep going on with this.

There is nothing wrong with my comprehension level but it does seem there is
something wrong with yours.

> Sky, who now believes this "Julie Bove" character is not a troll - it's a
> mindless glob of ectoplasm with no capability of 'thinking' or
> 'extrapolating' various concepts to different applications.

Whatever.
>
> P.S. I'm in a 'mood' today - so excuse me since I'm 'testy' of late

Okay.

On 4/3/2012 6:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 03/04/2012 12:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> So don't put canned goods on the lazy susan! Lazy susans weren't
>> designed for stacking canned goods.

> What else can you put on a lazy susan? They usually aren't designed hold
> heavy stuff.

Mine is pretty heavy duty, you could put a good amount of
weight on each shelf but it will affect the ease of operation.

I keep canned goods, baking ingredients, anything you'd put
into a pantry but I wouldn't stack them. Just one layer or
they will fall over when you turn the shelf. Ditto with
taller items.

Nothing goes *flying* off when I turn the thing. Once in a
blue moon something might wind up in the corners but it is
not common. Perhaps it's because my shelves aren't round but
pentagonal (?) with a corner missing for the door. There is
no room for things to fly *to* to break.

> I can't recall ever seeing lazy susans anywhere but corners is a limited
> number of corners a square room. Come to think of it, I have never seen
> more than one lazy susan in any one kitchen.

I saw that on some remodeling show. I guess if you have the corners
it's as good a use for them as any.

nancy

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/3/2012 5:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Ya'll keep talking about a circle and I am not dealing with a circle. So
>> I
>> really don't need to look those terms up.
>
> A "lazy susan" by definition IS a circle - DUH! Just how idiotic are you?
> Don't you have the capability to 'thing things through' and 'solve' simple
> problems on your own with some iota of comprehension?
>
> Sky, who's unusually testy today - apologies to the other RFC folks

No. A lazy Susan cupboard is not necessarily a circle. I looked it up.
There is the circle, the pie shaped, the kidney shaped and still another I
can fathom. It seems to be a little more than half of a circle and it pulls
out and then swivels around. I would actually have to see that one in
action to understand it.

The problem I am having is...and perhaps I am not explaining it well...the
width of the shelf paper itself. I have bought the widest I can find but I
still don't think I can get a big enough piece to be able to line the shelf
with just one piece.

And I still won't know until I get the newspaper. Yes, I know I can buy
one but I take the Sunday paper so I can wait till then to make the pattern.
Right now I have the cupboard half ass lined with some wrapping paper. I
suppose I could technically make a pattern out of that by taping the pieces
together but I have cut it really choppily and simply folded some of the
parts over. I still may have to use two or three pieces of the liner to get
it fully lined.

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
b.com...
> Sky wrote:
>
>>> Ya'll keep talking about a circle and I am not dealing with a circle.
>>> So I really don't need to look those terms up.
>>
>> A "lazy susan" by definition IS a circle - DUH! Just how idiotic are
>> you? Don't you have the capability to 'thing things through' and 'solve'
>> simple problems on your own with some iota of comprehension?
>>
>> Sky, who's unusually testy today - apologies to the other RFC folks
>
> This is the first post I've read from this thread. I see I'm not missing
> anything, so the rest of the thread is hereby consigned to oblivion as far
> as I'm concerned.

Thanks! Let's all drop it. I got my answer already.

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> This is the first post I've read from this thread. I see I'm not missing
> anything, so the rest of the thread is hereby consigned to oblivion as
> far as I'm concerned.

What?!! You can't desert Julie in her hour of need!

On 03/04/2012 5:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:35:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "The > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> In >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bull wrote:
>>>>>>>> In >,
>>>>>>>> "Julie > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how
>>>>>>>>> do you do it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a
>>>>>>>> lip all the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and
>>>>>>>> cut one. when you have the circle make a split to the center
>>>>>>>> for the post. Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it
>>>>>>>> fits. Then trace to the liner cut another one. Takes a little
>>>>>>>> time but not that hard to do. My house was built about 1990 and
>>>>>>>> those were the thing then. There are much better storage
>>>>>>>> solutions today - but I'm not taking mine out because I am
>>>>>>>> never changing the cabinets. I know what's in there and don't
>>>>>>>> have a problem with it. It is way better than a "dead space"
>>>>>>>> corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a
>>>>>> number on a tape measure.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>>
>>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>>> can't access all of it at once.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In that case measure from the center to an outer edge. Take a string
>> and tie a pencil to one end. Measure from the pencil to the length
>> you just measured. Then hold the other end on the piece of paper.
>> Draw a circle. Cut it out and test it in the circle.It should fit
>> pretty well and you can make whatever adjustments you need.
>
> I don't HAVE a circle. It's the pie shaped one.
>


And in what world are pies not round?

>

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
news
> On 03/04/2012 5:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> The Cook wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:35:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:20:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> In >,
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bull wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In >,
>>>>>>>>> "Julie > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how
>>>>>>>>>> do you do it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a
>>>>>>>>> lip all the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and
>>>>>>>>> cut one. when you have the circle make a split to the center
>>>>>>>>> for the post. Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it
>>>>>>>>> fits. Then trace to the liner cut another one. Takes a little
>>>>>>>>> time but not that hard to do. My house was built about 1990 and
>>>>>>>>> those were the thing then. There are much better storage
>>>>>>>>> solutions today - but I'm not taking mine out because I am
>>>>>>>>> never changing the cabinets. I know what's in there and don't
>>>>>>>>> have a problem with it. It is way better than a "dead space"
>>>>>>>>> corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do I measure the diamater of the circle?
>>>>>>>> I am not good with math.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus christ, you don't need to be good at maths to read a
>>>>>>> number on a tape measure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you do to know what diameter is. And I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Diameter is the measurement around the outside of the circle.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you. That would be pretty hard to measure seeing as how I
>>>> can't access all of it at once.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In that case measure from the center to an outer edge. Take a string
>>> and tie a pencil to one end. Measure from the pencil to the length
>>> you just measured. Then hold the other end on the piece of paper.
>>> Draw a circle. Cut it out and test it in the circle.It should fit
>>> pretty well and you can make whatever adjustments you need.
>>
>> I don't HAVE a circle. It's the pie shaped one.
>>
>
>
> And in what world are pies not round?

The shape I have has a big wedge out of it. How about I ask another
question then. Does anyone know where I can get shelf paper made for this
type of shelf? In other words, extra wide? That is my problem. Trying to
get something that is big enough. Someone suggested floor tiles but in
thinking about that, that would be a big waste because of the rounded edge.
And a real PITA I think to cut to size and install. I really would like to
have something that is all one piece. But it doesn't seem like that is
going to happen.

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 18:48:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> The shape I have has a big wedge out of it. How about I ask another
> question then. Does anyone know where I can get shelf paper made for this
> type of shelf? In other words, extra wide? That is my problem. Trying to
> get something that is big enough. Someone suggested floor tiles but in
> thinking about that, that would be a big waste because of the rounded edge.
> And a real PITA I think to cut to size and install. I really would like to
> have something that is all one piece. But it doesn't seem like that is
> going to happen.
>
Some craft stores, fabric stores and old fashioned Five & Dimes sell
oil cloth. I think I've seen something clear with a peel off backing
tucked in with the oil cloth, try calling around to places like that.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 18:48:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> The shape I have has a big wedge out of it. How about I ask another
>> question then. Does anyone know where I can get shelf paper made for
>> this
>> type of shelf? In other words, extra wide? That is my problem. Trying
>> to
>> get something that is big enough. Someone suggested floor tiles but in
>> thinking about that, that would be a big waste because of the rounded
>> edge.
>> And a real PITA I think to cut to size and install. I really would like
>> to
>> have something that is all one piece. But it doesn't seem like that is
>> going to happen.
>>
> Some craft stores, fabric stores and old fashioned Five & Dimes sell
> oil cloth. I think I've seen something clear with a peel off backing
> tucked in with the oil cloth, try calling around to places like that.

I have not seen any of that around in years! I can't remember now where I
was living when I did see it. Perhaps in CA? I do remember seeing it in
rolls on big racks. We are going to Hobby Lobby tomorrow. I will look
there. But I don't remember seeing any. Thanks. I was thinking of getting
flannel backed table cloths but again that would result in a lot of waste.

I just measured the depth and it appears to be about 16" (just eyeballed and
didn't measure) and the liner I have is 20" which is the widest I have
found. Due to the curve of the shelf I don't think this will be wide
enough. I am sure there is some mathematical way to express this but
according to some here I am too stupid to know what that is. I certainly
don't know the term(s) for it and I am not going to google to try to find
it.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...

Bull wrote:
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Bull" > wrote in message
>
>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>> do it?
>
> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip all
> the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one.
> when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
> Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
> the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard to
> do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
> There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
> mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's in
> there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
> "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.

How do I measure the diamater of the circle? I am not good with math. My
house was built in 81 but was probably remodeled around 90.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Why not use paper? You could use brown paper--the type for packing
boxes--and press it around the sides to form a crease. Cut along the
creases to make the pattern, lay it back in the lazy Susan to make sure it
is correct, and then use that as a template.

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
> Bull wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Bull" > wrote in message
>>
>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>>> do it?
>>
>> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip all
>> the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one.
>> when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
>> Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
>> the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard to
>> do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
>> There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
>> mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's in
>> there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
>> "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>
> How do I measure the diamater of the circle? I am not good with math. My
> house was built in 81 but was probably remodeled around 90.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Why not use paper? You could use brown paper--the type for packing
> boxes--and press it around the sides to form a crease. Cut along the
> creases to make the pattern, lay it back in the lazy Susan to make sure it
> is correct, and then use that as a template.


That is what I am going to do but I will use newspaper. Frankly I hadn't
even thought of that because I have never had to do anything like that
before. When I put the Contact paper in there, I had to do it in pieces
because it wasn't wide enough. I think I used three pieces. The end result
wasn't bad but it didn't hold up really well. And I really hate messing
with Contact paper. If you put it down wrong by accident then it's ruined.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
> Bull wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Bull" > wrote in message
>>
>>> But how do you make the pattern? What is it made of and how do you
>>> do it?
>>
>> The ones I have are a circle with a wedge cut out and have a lip all
>> the way around. Measure the diameter of the circle and cut one.
>> when you have the circle make a split to the center for the post.
>> Cut out the wedge. Tweak the pattern until it fits. Then trace to
>> the liner cut another one. Takes a little time but not that hard to
>> do. My house was built about 1990 and those were the thing then.
>> There are much better storage solutions today - but I'm not taking
>> mine out because I am never changing the cabinets. I know what's in
>> there and don't have a problem with it. It is way better than a
>> "dead space" corner. Mine are in the lower cabinets only.
>
> How do I measure the diamater of the circle? I am not good with math. My
> house was built in 81 but was probably remodeled around 90.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Why not use paper? You could use brown paper--the type for packing
> boxes--and press it around the sides to form a crease. Cut along the
> creases to make the pattern, lay it back in the lazy Susan to make sure it
> is correct, and then use that as a template.


That is what I am going to do but I will use newspaper. Frankly I hadn't
even thought of that because I have never had to do anything like that
before. When I put the Contact paper in there, I had to do it in pieces
because it wasn't wide enough. I think I used three pieces. The end result
wasn't bad but it didn't hold up really well. And I really hate messing
with Contact paper. If you put it down wrong by accident then it's ruined.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The reason I suggested brown packing paper is that it is sturdier than
newspaper. Newspaper could tear easily, but it is certainly worth trying
(free!).

MaryL