Help!
My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy since.My
sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the point I
can't even eat it.
I told her to give up!
Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
She can read! LOL!
Thanks-
Tony

> wrote in message
...
> Help!
> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy since.My
> sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the point I
> can't even eat it.
> I told her to give up!
> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
> She can read! LOL!
> Thanks-
> Tony
>

Gravy --- Naples. OK, the tomato based stuff, not the beef kind.

My wife makes one with tomato paste, crushed tomatoes and a can of water for
each can of paste. Add in garlic, salt, pepper, oregano, basil. I have no
idea how much, just to taste. Add some meat (whatever you happen to have)
and cook for a long time. I bet the people here can give more details on
how they do it. Or do a recipe search.

If you have any idea what mom put in, it would help find a close recipe.

> wrote in message
...
> Help!
> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy since.My
> sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the point I
> can't even eat it.
> I told her to give up!
> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
> She can read! LOL!
> Thanks-
> Tony

What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make and I've
never had bitter gravy.

Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Help!
>> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy
>> since.My sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the
>> point I can't even eat it.
>> I told her to give up!
>> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
>> She can read! LOL!
>> Thanks-
>> Tony
>
> What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make
> and I've never had bitter gravy.

Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
om...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Help!
>>> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy
>>> since.My sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the
>>> point I can't even eat it.
>>> I told her to give up!
>>> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
>>> She can read! LOL!
>>> Thanks-
>>> Tony
>>
>> What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make
>> and I've never had bitter gravy.
>
> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.
>
> nancy


Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".

Jill

I'm guessing sister makes the roux variety and burns the flour or starts the Napoli style gravy with garlic and burns that. I detect something burned when I hear bitter gravy.
I can't think of any gravy that is a major trick to make.

Give us a synopsis of what mom's gravy tasted like. This could be fun.

jmcquown wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> om...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Help!
>>>> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy
>>>> since.My sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to
>>>> the point I can't even eat it.
>>>> I told her to give up!
>>>> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
>>>> She can read! LOL!
>>>> Thanks-
>>>> Tony
>>>
>>> What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make
>>> and I've never had bitter gravy.
>>
>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.

> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".

I grew up with many Italians, I know that. Some people called it
spaghetti sauce. I only said tomato sauce so people would know
we weren't talking roast beef gravy or anything.

I don't have the energy to post any recipe for the OP. For the
bitterness I've known Italians who'd add a carrot and take it out
when it was done. Pork chops/necks/ribs will give a good flavor
to the sauce. I don't know what the sister is doing so who knows.

I say it's time for Tony to make the sauce since he doesn't like
what he's getting.

nancy

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> om...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Help!
>>>> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy
>>>> since.My sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the
>>>> point I can't even eat it.
>>>> I told her to give up!
>>>> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
>>>> She can read! LOL!
>>>> Thanks-
>>>> Tony
>>>
>>> What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make
>>> and I've never had bitter gravy.
>>
>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.
>>
>> nancy
>
>
> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".

And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
om...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> om...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Help!
>>>>> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy
>>>>> since.My sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to
>>>>> the point I can't even eat it.
>>>>> I told her to give up!
>>>>> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
>>>>> She can read! LOL!
>>>>> Thanks-
>>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make
>>>> and I've never had bitter gravy.
>>>
>>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.
>
>> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>
> I grew up with many Italians, I know that. Some people called it
> spaghetti sauce. I only said tomato sauce so people would know
> we weren't talking roast beef gravy or anything.
>
> I don't have the energy to post any recipe for the OP. For the
> bitterness I've known Italians who'd add a carrot and take it out
> when it was done. Pork chops/necks/ribs will give a good flavor
> to the sauce. I don't know what the sister is doing so who knows.
>
> I say it's time for Tony to make the sauce since he doesn't like
> what he's getting.

I've never had bitter sauce. But if it tastes too acidy, a squirt of lemon
juice will fix it.

On 3/13/2011 12:16 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Nancy > wrote in message
>> om...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Help!
>>>>> My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy
>>>>> since.My sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the
>>>>> point I can't even eat it.
>>>>> I told her to give up!
>>>>> Wish we had a good old cook book from Naples to help her.
>>>>> She can read! LOL!
>>>>> Thanks-
>>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> What kind of gravy do you want? Gravy of all kinds is easy to make
>>>> and I've never had bitter gravy.
>>>
>>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>>
>> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>
> And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.
>
>

I knew. I grew up with Sicilianos. They taught me to cook Italian food.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 3/13/2011 12:16 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > wrote

>>> "Nancy > wrote

>>>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.

>>> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>>
>> And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.

> I knew. I grew up with Sicilianos. They taught me to cook Italian
> food.

Thing is, it has to be used in context or people with think it's
roast beef gravy or something.

nancy

On 3/13/2011 5:36 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 3/13/2011 12:16 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > wrote
>
>>>> "Nancy > wrote
>
>>>>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.
>
>>>> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>>>
>>> And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.
>
>> I knew. I grew up with Sicilianos. They taught me to cook Italian
>> food.
>
> Thing is, it has to be used in context or people with think it's
> roast beef gravy or something.


I remember going to a state park with my parents when I was a kid. We
brought a little grill and made hamburgers and hot dogs. My mom
wouldn't use the ones in the park. I would always hear the Italian
ladies talking about "the gravy" and wondered why they would be making
brown gravy. It wasn't until I was of cooking age that I learned that
gravy was made with tomatoes from my friend Janet Crozio's Nauna.


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Nancy Young wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 3/13/2011 12:16 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > wrote
>
>>>> "Nancy > wrote
>
>>>>> Sounds like he's looking for tomato sauce.
>
>>>> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>>>
>>> And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.
>
>> I knew. I grew up with Sicilianos. They taught me to cook Italian
>> food.
>
> Thing is, it has to be used in context or people with think it's
> roast beef gravy or something.

I used the term "red gravy" which is what my inlaws call it. They're
Scicilian.

"Janet Wilder" > ha scritto nel messaggio

Julie Bove wrote:
Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>>
>> And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.
>>
>>
>
> I knew. I grew up with Sicilianos. They taught me to cook Italian food.

It's just the result of bad translation. Sugo infers that meat is involved
in some way whereas salsa infers there was not. Neither one of them really
means "gravy" but in the US they had to come up with a word.
My mother's best friend was Napolitana and her husband Siciliano, both
arrived there as babies. They never used the term gravy. It seems to be
more geographical in the US than to do with geographical in Italy.

On 3/14/2011 4:21 AM, Giusi wrote:
> "Janet > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
> Yes, in Italy they call tomato sauce "gravy".
>>>
>>> And yet when *I* used that term, few people knew what I meant.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I knew. I grew up with Sicilianos. They taught me to cook Italian food.
>
> It's just the result of bad translation. Sugo infers that meat is involved
> in some way whereas salsa infers there was not. Neither one of them really
> means "gravy" but in the US they had to come up with a word.
> My mother's best friend was Napolitana and her husband Siciliano, both
> arrived there as babies. They never used the term gravy. It seems to be
> more geographical in the US than to do with geographical in Italy.
>
>

Maybe it's a NY Metro thing?

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Mar 11, 9:19*pm, wrote:
> Help!
> *My Mom passed away 3 years ago and I haven't had a good gravy since.My
> sister trys,but her gravy is like glue and is bitter to the point I
> can't even eat it.

Bitterness comes from tomato paste, in my experience. Try using
crushed tomatoes in puree.

Giusi wrote:

> It's just the result of bad translation. Sugo infers that meat is involved
> in some way whereas salsa infers there was not. Neither one of them really
> means "gravy" but in the US they had to come up with a word.
> My mother's best friend was Napolitana and her husband Siciliano, both
> arrived there as babies. They never used the term gravy. It seems to be
> more geographical in the US than to do with geographical in Italy.
>
My father said about the same. He said as even as a young boy when he
heard people use the English word "gravy" he recognized what was meant
but it was never a word used by his own family. They come from near
Benevento.