I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
reccomendations/tips to share?

it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
power was out in the summer.

Lee

don't know what your issue is but maybe you need to see about getting those
vitamins adjusted, Lee

who still wants real opinions, Lee
"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now
>> that i know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and
>> do you have reccomendations/tips to share?
>>
>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were
>> run it would be less expensive and it would help with cooking
>> especially when the power was out in the summer.
>>
>> Lee
>
>
> WtF, why the redundancy?
>
> You didn't get a good enough answer?
>
> Shithead!
>
> Andy

"atec77" > wrote
>>
> The difference to an lpg/propane unit is a jet change
>

And regulator

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:37:45 +1000, atec77 > wrote:

>On 2/03/2011 7:24 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
>> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
>> reccomendations/tips to share?
>>
>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
>> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
>> power was out in the summer.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>The difference to an lpg/propane unit is a jet change
My Arkla NG unit has a 7.5 in regulator as part of the gas valve where
a similar LP unit does not have this in-post regulator.
--
Mr.E

On Mar 2, 4:59*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "atec77" > wrote
>
>
>
> > The difference to an lpg/propane unit is a jet change
>
> And regulator

Some gas grills come with a natural gas jet on a little ziplock, in
addition to already installed propane one. The regulator is an extra
expense, but you'll start making up the difference right away. The
bigger expense is running the gas line outside, especially if you're
not just jury rigging it.

--Bryan

On 3/2/2011 4:24 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
> reccomendations/tips to share?
>
Typically you just specify you want the NG version.


> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
> power was out in the summer.
>

Also it really is convenient not to worry about having enough gas on hand.

> Lee
>
>

it seems that there is nothing but positive comments, and while we might
have to wait on the actual grill for a time, getting the fittings done when
we get to that stage of the house seems a reasonable thing, thanks, Lee
"George" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/2/2011 4:24 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that
>> i
>> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you
>> have
>> reccomendations/tips to share?
>>
> Typically you just specify you want the NG version.
>
>
>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run
>> it
>> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when
>> the
>> power was out in the summer.
>>
>
> Also it really is convenient not to worry about having enough gas on hand.
>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>

On Mar 2, 4:24*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
> reccomendations/tips to share?
>
> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
> power was out in the summer.
>
> Lee

In some jurisdictions, natural gas grills must be fixed to the
ground, and not on wheels. Imagine the result if someone
wheeled away the gas grill and broke the gas line. A
quick phone call to your building inspector's office (probably
the plumbing and/or heating guy) should clear up any
requirements with which you must comply. Obviously,
your plumber will be the one complying, but you should
know before you shop.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2011-03-02, Storrmmee > wrote:
> it seems that there is nothing but positive comments, and while we might
> have to wait on the actual grill for a time, getting the fittings done when

The only downside I can think of is, propane burns hotter. So, if you
are going to use a grill designed for natural gas, shouldn't be a
problem. OTOH, If you plan to convert a propane grill to natural gas,
you may not get the heat output you expect.

Also, it's been my experience in the past, all grills are not created
equal. Some are just cheap junk. Also, consider there are two basic
designs. One type simply heats via gas burner, like a gas oven
broiler. Metal plates between the grills and the burner keep grease
and such off the burner. The other design generates heat by heating
lava rocks above the burner. The rocks radiate heat and run
interference to all the fats/juices. If you get the metal plate kind,
you may be locked in.

We had a cheapo gas grill that used lava rocks, but came with a
miserly amt of the rocks. It wouldn't get as hot as I wanted for some
things, like searing steaks, both because there weren't enough rocks
absorbing/radiating heat and cuz the rocks level was way below the
grills. Fortunately, I was able to simply add more lava rocks and
solved the problem. Not sure you could do that with the metal plate
design. I suspect some metal plate designs would benefit from
addition of lava rocks, but it would depend on the how that particular
plate model was designed.

Some things to consider.

nb

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:39:43 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> this won't be a kitchen like i would have if money/space weren't concerns,
> but i do want a smoker to play with and i just thought of the nat gas grill
> as more of an emergency thing,

It's still part of an outdoor kitchen setup and that's how you need to
think of it, Stormmee. It will certainly be a lot more attractive
than just plopping a gas grill outside. It will also be a selling
point when that happens... even if it's your heirs who are doing the
sale.

> the dh doesn't care much about grilling out,

Too bad your husband is such a poop when it comes to grilling. I like
it so much that I've gone through cycles of outdoor cooking 5-6 days
of the week.

> in some alternative universe there is a gasibo with a roof and screens and a
> table with a small frig and and and, lol, Lee

Outdoor kitchens certainly don't have to be *that* fancy.

Build your grill (they are drop in units) into a permanent structure
next to/attached to the house with counter space on each side
http://lovethatbarbecue.com/wp-conte...r-kitchen.jpeg
and you're good to go. A pergola would be icing on the cake.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:27:02 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

>thanks, someone else mentioned this, i have it on the list of questions to
>ask, its so nice to get these opinions from someone who has nothing to gain
>from the giving of it,
>
>Lee
>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
>On Mar 2, 4:24 am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
>> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you
>> have
>> reccomendations/tips to share?
>>
>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run
>> it
>> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
>> power was out in the summer.
>>
>> Lee
>
>In some jurisdictions, natural gas grills must be fixed to the
>ground, and not on wheels. Imagine the result if someone
>wheeled away the gas grill and broke the gas line. A
>quick phone call to your building inspector's office (probably
>the plumbing and/or heating guy) should clear up any
>requirements with which you must comply. Obviously,
>your plumber will be the one complying, but you should
>know before you shop.
>
As a retired inspector, I looked at the grill (if present) and its
fuel type and the method of hookup. If hard connected the grill had to
be fixed, but if an approved gas quick-connect and stop valve were
installed, the grill could be movable with approved hose/connectors
used.
Other jurisdictions may have other codes in place.
--
Mr.E

lots of factors, and will have time to choose the actual grill, i mostly
wanted to make sure i wasn't being silly to get it done for the fitting part
when that phase is in play, purchasing the actual grill is a whole 'nother
kettle of fish,

thanks, Lee
"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2011-03-02, Storrmmee > wrote:
>> it seems that there is nothing but positive comments, and while we might
>> have to wait on the actual grill for a time, getting the fittings done
>> when
>
> The only downside I can think of is, propane burns hotter. So, if you
> are going to use a grill designed for natural gas, shouldn't be a
> problem. OTOH, If you plan to convert a propane grill to natural gas,
> you may not get the heat output you expect.
>
> Also, it's been my experience in the past, all grills are not created
> equal. Some are just cheap junk. Also, consider there are two basic
> designs. One type simply heats via gas burner, like a gas oven
> broiler. Metal plates between the grills and the burner keep grease
> and such off the burner. The other design generates heat by heating
> lava rocks above the burner. The rocks radiate heat and run
> interference to all the fats/juices. If you get the metal plate kind,
> you may be locked in.
>
> We had a cheapo gas grill that used lava rocks, but came with a
> miserly amt of the rocks. It wouldn't get as hot as I wanted for some
> things, like searing steaks, both because there weren't enough rocks
> absorbing/radiating heat and cuz the rocks level was way below the
> grills. Fortunately, I was able to simply add more lava rocks and
> solved the problem. Not sure you could do that with the metal plate
> design. I suspect some metal plate designs would benefit from
> addition of lava rocks, but it would depend on the how that particular
> plate model was designed.
>
> Some things to consider.
>
> nb

outdoor kitchen is much better than emergency food source, dh's family
didn't cook out much so its not part of his cultural upbringing so i am not
too hard on him, Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:39:43 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> this won't be a kitchen like i would have if money/space weren't
>> concerns,
>> but i do want a smoker to play with and i just thought of the nat gas
>> grill
>> as more of an emergency thing,
>
> It's still part of an outdoor kitchen setup and that's how you need to
> think of it, Stormmee. It will certainly be a lot more attractive
> than just plopping a gas grill outside. It will also be a selling
> point when that happens... even if it's your heirs who are doing the
> sale.
>
>> the dh doesn't care much about grilling out,
>
> Too bad your husband is such a poop when it comes to grilling. I like
> it so much that I've gone through cycles of outdoor cooking 5-6 days
> of the week.
>
>> in some alternative universe there is a gasibo with a roof and screens
>> and a
>> table with a small frig and and and, lol, Lee
>
> Outdoor kitchens certainly don't have to be *that* fancy.
>
> Build your grill (they are drop in units) into a permanent structure
> next to/attached to the house with counter space on each side
> http://lovethatbarbecue.com/wp-conte...r-kitchen.jpeg
> and you're good to go. A pergola would be icing on the cake.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 02/03/2011 10:28 AM, sf wrote:

>
> Build your grill (they are drop in units) into a permanent structure
> next to/attached to the house with counter space on each side
> http://lovethatbarbecue.com/wp-conte...r-kitchen.jpeg
> and you're good to go. A pergola would be icing on the cake.
>

From spring through to fall we cook almost everything on the gas grill.

nice to know there might be options instead of a hard and fast rule, Lee
"Mr.E" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:27:02 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>>thanks, someone else mentioned this, i have it on the list of questions to
>>ask, its so nice to get these opinions from someone who has nothing to
>>gain
>>from the giving of it,
>>
>>Lee
>>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
>>On Mar 2, 4:24 am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that
>>> i
>>> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you
>>> have
>>> reccomendations/tips to share?
>>>
>>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were
>>> run
>>> it
>>> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when
>>> the
>>> power was out in the summer.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>>In some jurisdictions, natural gas grills must be fixed to the
>>ground, and not on wheels. Imagine the result if someone
>>wheeled away the gas grill and broke the gas line. A
>>quick phone call to your building inspector's office (probably
>>the plumbing and/or heating guy) should clear up any
>>requirements with which you must comply. Obviously,
>>your plumber will be the one complying, but you should
>>know before you shop.
>>
> As a retired inspector, I looked at the grill (if present) and its
> fuel type and the method of hookup. If hard connected the grill had to
> be fixed, but if an approved gas quick-connect and stop valve were
> installed, the grill could be movable with approved hose/connectors
> used.
> Other jurisdictions may have other codes in place.
> --
> Mr.E

On 3/2/2011 4:24 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
> reccomendations/tips to share?
>
> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
> power was out in the summer.
>
> Lee
>
>
I've had a gas grill with a permanent connection for almost 40
years. I don't even know what a propane tank is. We virtually
never broil in the inside oven. I would classify us as foodies, but
not to obsession. Even in the Chicago area, we would run outside
with a heavy jacket, and throw on a few steaks. It seems the bbqs
never last that long. The 1st was a Sears brands, the 2nd, I think,
was also a Sears. The 3rd was a Weber on wheels with a hose
connection and the 4th, in a new home for the past 1.5 years, was a
Nexgrill from Lowe's. All of them wear out parts, like grills and
burners. The Sears units had problems with wind. The Nexgrill, I
have now, is just plain junk. They charged huge shipping and
handling for a part covered under warranty ... probably more than
the part was worth. The Weber was the best. We had it outside
during most of the year, but in the frigid Chicago winters, is was
in our screened in porch. We had a 2nd hook up inside the porch. I
know Weber doesn't recommend inside the structure use, but, the
Weber never had a flair up problem that would worry me ... even
when we forgot something and it burnt to a crisp. I did have to
replace the grids and the "flavorizer" bars once. The Nexgrill is
slow, needs frequent cleaning of the flame covers, aka flavorizer
bars and has, after 1.5 years already shown signs of the grills
wearing out. BTW, I would recommend the porcelain grids. Raw cast
iron rusts and 'rots' out quickly. Porcelain on cast iron is
probably the best. BTW, the Nexgrill is a propane unit connected
directly to the 500 gallon house propane tank. I thought the
propane pressure might be too low because it was soooooo slow,
however, it's right where it should be. It does have a IR browning
burner which is pretty good. If you preheat this for a real long
time, it is tolerable. If I had everything I wanted in this life, I
would junk the Nexgrill and get another Weber. Sorry for rambling on.

don't apologise its all helpful to me to hear these types of things, Lee
"Art Todesco" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/2/2011 4:24 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that
>> i
>> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you
>> have
>> reccomendations/tips to share?
>>
>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run
>> it
>> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when
>> the
>> power was out in the summer.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
> I've had a gas grill with a permanent connection for almost 40 years. I
> don't even know what a propane tank is. We virtually never broil in the
> inside oven. I would classify us as foodies, but not to obsession. Even
> in the Chicago area, we would run outside with a heavy jacket, and throw
> on a few steaks. It seems the bbqs never last that long. The 1st was a
> Sears brands, the 2nd, I think, was also a Sears. The 3rd was a Weber on
> wheels with a hose connection and the 4th, in a new home for the past 1.5
> years, was a Nexgrill from Lowe's. All of them wear out parts, like
> grills and burners. The Sears units had problems with wind. The
> Nexgrill, I have now, is just plain junk. They charged huge shipping and
> handling for a part covered under warranty ... probably more than the part
> was worth. The Weber was the best. We had it outside during most of the
> year, but in the frigid Chicago winters, is was in our screened in porch.
> We had a 2nd hook up inside the porch. I know Weber doesn't recommend
> inside the structure use, but, the Weber never had a flair up problem
> that would worry me ... even when we forgot something and it burnt to a
> crisp. I did have to replace the grids and the "flavorizer" bars once.
> The Nexgrill is slow, needs frequent cleaning of the flame covers, aka
> flavorizer bars and has, after 1.5 years already shown signs of the grills
> wearing out. BTW, I would recommend the porcelain grids. Raw cast iron
> rusts and 'rots' out quickly. Porcelain on cast iron is probably the
> best. BTW, the Nexgrill is a propane unit connected directly to the 500
> gallon house propane tank. I thought the propane pressure might be too
> low because it was soooooo slow, however, it's right where it should be.
> It does have a IR browning burner which is pretty good. If you preheat
> this for a real long time, it is tolerable. If I had everything I wanted
> in this life, I would junk the Nexgrill and get another Weber. Sorry for
> rambling on.

On Mar 2, 7:33*am, Mr.E > wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:27:02 -0600, "Storrmmee"
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >thanks, someone else mentioned this, i have it on the list of questions to
> >ask, its so nice to get these opinions from someone who has nothing to gain
> >from the giving of it,
>
> >Lee
> >"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> >On Mar 2, 4:24 am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> >> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
> >> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you
> >> have
> >> reccomendations/tips to share?
>
> >> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run
> >> it
> >> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
> >> power was out in the summer.
>
> >> Lee
>
> >In some jurisdictions, natural gas grills must be fixed to the
> >ground, and not on wheels. *Imagine the result if someone
> >wheeled away the gas grill and broke the gas line. *A
> >quick phone call to your building inspector's office (probably
> >the plumbing and/or heating guy) should clear up any
> >requirements with which you must comply. *Obviously,
> >your plumber will be the one complying, but you should
> >know before you shop.
>
> As a retired inspector, I looked at the grill (if present) and its
> fuel type and the method of hookup. If hard connected the grill had to
> be fixed, but if an approved gas quick-connect and stop valve were
> installed, the grill could be movable with approved hose/connectors
> used.
> Other jurisdictions may have other codes in place.

A fellow I worked with brewed beer on a two burner portable stove his
mother had used for canning fruit (the house would have been
unbearable in the summer had she canned inside).

I was shocked to learn he connected it to a gas cock inside using
rubber Bunsen burner hose.

On Mar 2, 9:39*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> this won't be a kitchen like i would have if money/space weren't concerns,
> but i do want a smoker to play with and i just thought of the nat gas grill
> as more of an emergency thing, the dh doesn't care much about grilling out,

Does he like grilled food? I do most of the grilling in our house,
because
it's so easy to start up the gas grill and cook. If I had to light
charcoal
every time, it'd never happen. Last summer I did a fair amount of
roasting on
the gas grill, not wanting to heat up the house.

Cindy Hamilton

he eats grilled food and he had an el grill unit my mom got him but its not
on his top tem list, i am hoping that he will develope a taste for it, why i
hope that after thirty years is beyond me, Lee
"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
On Mar 2, 9:39 am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> this won't be a kitchen like i would have if money/space weren't concerns,
> but i do want a smoker to play with and i just thought of the nat gas
> grill
> as more of an emergency thing, the dh doesn't care much about grilling
> out,

Does he like grilled food? I do most of the grilling in our house,
because
it's so easy to start up the gas grill and cook. If I had to light
charcoal
every time, it'd never happen. Last summer I did a fair amount of
roasting on
the gas grill, not wanting to heat up the house.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2 Mar 2011 15:21:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2011-03-02, Storrmmee > wrote:
>> it seems that there is nothing but positive comments, and while we might
>> have to wait on the actual grill for a time, getting the fittings done when
>
>The only downside I can think of is, propane burns hotter. So, if you
>are going to use a grill designed for natural gas, shouldn't be a
>problem. OTOH, If you plan to convert a propane grill to natural gas,
>you may not get the heat output you expect.

Gas appliances are equally convertable between natural gas and
propane... when converted correctly one has no different BTU rating
than the other.

>Also, it's been my experience in the past, all grills are not created
>equal. Some are just cheap junk.

That's true of everything. I've been using the same Weber Genesis
for going on 20 years, began as natural gas and ten years ago
converted to propane... operates perfectly. The only part that wore
out was the wood slat side shelves and bottom shelf, I changed those
myself with lumber from Lowes, ordering new from Weber would have cost
some $75, I did it myself for some $7... the new ones are plastic. The
gas conversion kit entailed a completely new burner, ~$35, I saved the
one for natural gas but chances are I will never use it, I have no
intention of moving and there will never be natural gas available
here, at least not this century. Weber may initially cost a bit more
but over time will cost far less... I really don't anticipate needing
to replace my Weber, and mine is outdoors in all weather and never
covered. I have it connected to my 500 gallon home heating tank, no
need to fool with refilling those silly bottles.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:13:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Mar 2, 4:24*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
>> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
>> reccomendations/tips to share?
>>
>> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
>> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
>> power was out in the summer.
>>
>> Lee
>
>In some jurisdictions, natural gas grills must be fixed to the
>ground, and not on wheels. Imagine the result if someone
>wheeled away the gas grill and broke the gas line. A
>quick phone call to your building inspector's office (probably
>the plumbing and/or heating guy) should clear up any
>requirements with which you must comply. Obviously,
>your plumber will be the one complying, but you should
>know before you shop.

I doubt that's true... there are many rules regarding underground
plumbing, the gas connect stancheon and valving, and where to place
the grill in relation to combustible materials, but there are no rules
against connecting with an approved flexible quick disconnect hose,
typically 15' long and longer. To my knowlege one can roll their
natural gas grill wherever so long as it is in compliance with the
fire codes for distances from combustibles, same for propane. Never
ever place any grill on a wood deck.

In article >,
"Storrmmee" > wrote:

> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
> reccomendations/tips to share?
>
> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
> power was out in the summer.
>
> Lee

Not now but we did until about 15 years ago.

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
http://web.me.com/barbschaller

On 3/2/2011 2:24 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> I have asked on a couple other groups but think i haven't here, now that i
> know such a thing does exist, does anyone here have/use one and do you have
> reccomendations/tips to share?
>
> it occurred to me that if we got one of these when the gas lines were run it
> would be less expensive and it would help with cooking especially when the
> power was out in the summer.
>
> Lee
>
>



We've had one for about 26 years, when we moved in to this house with
natural gas heat. I replaced the old grill that came with the house
a few years ago and noticed that the selection of ng grills was limited
compared to the bottled gas variety. I did find a Weber Silver that we
have been very happy with.

One thing I have noticed: our daughter lives 3 miles away and grills as
often as we do. They have a bottled gas grill which came from
California with them when they moved here. In winter when it is very
cold out, we don't notice any difference in efficiency of our grill.
Daughter's definitely takes much longer to cook in cold weather.

I never broil meat or fish. It all goes on the grill. We have a grill
basket for vegetables, often a medley of potatoes, onions, zucchini,
mushrooms and herbs, with a bit of olive oil. Sliced eggplant brushed
with olive oil does very well on the grill, too. Halved eggplant on the
grill make delicious, slightly smoky baba ghanoush.

gloria p

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:53:29 -0700, "gloria.p" >
wrote:

> I never broil meat or fish. It all goes on the grill. We have a grill
> basket for vegetables, often a medley of potatoes, onions, zucchini,
> mushrooms and herbs, with a bit of olive oil. Sliced eggplant brushed
> with olive oil does very well on the grill, too. Halved eggplant on the
> grill make delicious, slightly smoky baba ghanoush.

I like the way you cook!

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