— 1 teaspoon ground oregano
— 1 teaspoon chili powder
— 1 teaspoon ground sage
— 1 teaspoon dried basil
— 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
— 1 teaspoon pepper
— 2 teaspoons salt
— 2 tablespoons paprika
— 1 teaspoon onion salt
— 1 teaspoon garlic powder
— 2 tablespoons Accent

Source: Ron Douglas
See http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/320271...y-today_books/

On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> — 1 teaspoon pepper
> — 2 teaspoons salt
> — 2 tablespoons paprika
> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> Source: Ron Douglas
> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/

>
>
You think you're the only one who has 'discovered' the *secret spices
and herbs* in the Colonel's pantry??

On Mar 6, 4:04*am, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>
>
>
> > — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> > — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> > — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> > — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> > — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> > — 1 teaspoon pepper
> > — 2 teaspoons salt
> > — 2 tablespoons paprika
> > — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> > — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> > — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> > Source: Ron Douglas
> > Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>
> You think you're the only one who has 'discovered' the *secret spices
> and herbs* in the Colonel's pantry??

Heh heh! Not really! See my source at the bottom of the recipe?

On Mar 5, 9:12*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
> On Mar 6, 4:04*am, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>
> > > — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> > > — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> > > — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> > > — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> > > — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> > > — 1 teaspoon pepper
> > > — 2 teaspoons salt
> > > — 2 tablespoons paprika
> > > — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> > > — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> > > — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> > > Source: Ron Douglas
> > > Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>
> > You think you're the only one who has 'discovered' the *secret spices
> > and herbs* in the Colonel's pantry??
>
> Heh heh! Not really! See my source at the bottom of the recipe?- Hide quoted text -
>
>
Gee!! Half of the conjoined twins knows how to cut, copy, and paste!
Golly!

On Mar 6, 4:23*am, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:12*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>
> > On Mar 6, 4:04*am, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>
> > > > — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> > > > — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> > > > — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> > > > — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> > > > — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> > > > — 1 teaspoon pepper
> > > > — 2 teaspoons salt
> > > > — 2 tablespoons paprika
> > > > — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> > > > — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> > > > — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> > > > Source: Ron Douglas
> > > > Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>
> > > You think you're the only one who has 'discovered' the *secret spices
> > > and herbs* in the Colonel's pantry??
>
> > Heh heh! Not really! See my source at the bottom of the recipe?- Hide quoted text -
>
> Gee!! Half of the conjoined twins knows how to cut, copy, and paste!
> Golly!

Are you saying we should type in recipes by hand, instead of copying
and pasting them in? Why are you being hostile and bitter?

On Mar 5, 9:29*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
> On Mar 6, 4:23*am, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 5, 9:12*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 6, 4:04*am, itsjoannotjoann > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon pepper
> > > > > — 2 teaspoons salt
> > > > > — 2 tablespoons paprika
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> > > > > — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> > > > > — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> > > > > Source: Ron Douglas
> > > > > Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>
> > > > You think you're the only one who has 'discovered' the *secret spices
> > > > and herbs* in the Colonel's pantry??
>
> > > Heh heh! Not really! See my source at the bottom of the recipe?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Gee!! Half of the conjoined twins knows how to cut, copy, and paste!
> > Golly!
>
> Are you saying we should type in recipes by hand, instead of copying
> and pasting them in? Why are you being hostile and bitter?
>
>
I am saying don't be stupid and come here and post a bunch of garbage
you've snagged off the internet and try to pass it off as something
dear old Mummy uses all the time. Do you think you and sis are the
only people in the whole world that knows how to find this
information??? Do we sound that stupid and naive??

If you want to be part of the group and not a pain in the ass by
flooding us with recipes and spice blends we all know about or can
find without you demonstrating your c,c&p skills, submit a recipe
that's tried and true. Or post problems with a recipe and we'll see
if we can sort it out for you. Posting a report on a product (food,
appliance, or service) is most welcome. Flooding us with stupid
garbage you've snagged on the internet like we don't have sense enough
to know what you are doing will get you trashed every time.

Right now you are in the troll category and will remain there as long
as you do what you've done this morning.

On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> — 1 teaspoon pepper
> — 2 teaspoons salt
> — 2 tablespoons paprika
> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> Source: Ron Douglas
> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/



A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
at KFC.

In article
>,
Christopher Helms > wrote:

> On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon chili powder
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon ground sage
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon dried basil
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon pepper
> > ‹ 2 teaspoons salt
> > ‹ 2 tablespoons paprika
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon onion salt
> > ‹ 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> > ‹ 2 tablespoons Accent
> >
> > Source: Ron Douglas
> > Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today books/
>
>
>
> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
> at KFC.

Cite please?
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Om wrote:

>> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
>> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
>> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
>> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
>> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
>> at KFC.
>
> Cite please?

I have the book in question.

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Secrets-Wi.../dp/0688048307

Some of it is pretty interesting reading, e.g., did you know the "cola"
flavor is a combination of orange peel, vanilla, and cassia, and that the
main difference between Coke and Pepsi (at the time the book was written)
was that Pepsi also contains oils from lemon peel?

The details of the Shriner initiations are rather hilarious, too: The
blindfolded candidate is put through a series of "trials" which fall pretty
much into the "practical joke" category.

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> > Cite please?
>
> I have the book in question.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Big-Secrets-Wi.../dp/0688048307
>
> Some of it is pretty interesting reading, e.g., did you know the "cola"
> flavor is a combination of orange peel, vanilla, and cassia, and that the
> main difference between Coke and Pepsi (at the time the book was written)
> was that Pepsi also contains oils from lemon peel?
>
> The details of the Shriner initiations are rather hilarious, too: The
> blindfolded candidate is put through a series of "trials" which fall pretty
> much into the "practical joke" category.
>
> Bob

What a cool looking book! I've added it to my "books to order" file
next time I place an Amazon book order. I like to order enough to get
the free shipping option.

I normally just use white pepper, garlic powder and onion powder on
fried chicken. I'll probably add MSG to that now. <g>
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:53:15 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Christopher Helms > wrote:
>
>> On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground oregano
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon chili powder
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground sage
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried basil
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon pepper
>>> ‹ 2 teaspoons salt
>>> ‹ 2 tablespoons paprika
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon onion salt
>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon garlic powder
>>> ‹ 2 tablespoons Accent
>>>
>>> Source: Ron Douglas
>>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today books/
>>
>> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
>> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
>> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
>> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
>> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
>> at KFC.
>
> Cite please?

i don't really have a dog in this fight, but it wouldn't surprise me if KFC
was now using substitutes for the original herbs developed by food
chemists.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:53:15 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Christopher Helms > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon chili powder
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground sage
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried basil
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon pepper
> >>> ‹ 2 teaspoons salt
> >>> ‹ 2 tablespoons paprika
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon onion salt
> >>> ‹ 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> >>> ‹ 2 tablespoons Accent
> >>>
> >>> Source: Ron Douglas
> >>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today books/
> >>
> >> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
> >> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
> >> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
> >> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
> >> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
> >> at KFC.
> >
> > Cite please?
>
> i don't really have a dog in this fight, but it wouldn't surprise me if KFC
> was now using substitutes for the original herbs developed by food
> chemists.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Why? In today's world, bulk spices are cheap.
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Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>> i don't really have a dog in this fight, but it wouldn't surprise me if KFC
>> was now using substitutes for the original herbs developed by food
>> chemists.
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Why? In today's world, bulk spices are cheap.

For some reason, you just caused me to muse about how precious
such things were in ancient time--and the role they played in
world history.

--
Jean B.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:19:24 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:53:15 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> >,
>>> Christopher Helms > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 5, 9:01*am, Sue or Wendy > wrote:
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground oregano
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon chili powder
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground sage
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried basil
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon pepper
>>>>> ‹ 2 teaspoons salt
>>>>> ‹ 2 tablespoons paprika
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon onion salt
>>>>> ‹ 1 teaspoon garlic powder
>>>>> ‹ 2 tablespoons Accent
>>>>>
>>>>> Source: Ron Douglas
>>>>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today books/
>>>>
>>>> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
>>>> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
>>>> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
>>>> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
>>>> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
>>>> at KFC.
>>>
>>> Cite please?
>>
>> i don't really have a dog in this fight, but it wouldn't surprise me if KFC
>> was now using substitutes for the original herbs developed by food
>> chemists.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Why? In today's world, bulk spices are cheap.

but for many items, the chemicals are even cheaper and probably last
longer.

your pal,
blake

On 3/5/2010 7:02 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:01 am, Sue or > wrote:
>> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
>> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
>> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
>> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
>> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
>> — 1 teaspoon pepper
>> — 2 teaspoons salt
>> — 2 tablespoons paprika
>> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
>> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
>> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>>
>> Source: Ron Douglas
>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>
>
>
> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
> at KFC.

One has to merely taste the original recipe chicken to see that it
doesn't contain much, if any, herb flavor components. I always thought
there was an odd taste that reminds me of Vienna sausages in KFC.
Perhaps it contains ground Vienna sausages - or garlic powder? Salt,
pepper, and MSG is pretty much what I use when making fried chicken. I
make a great fried chicken - it's one of the few dishes that I excel at.
Sometimes I'll use some dehydrated garlic or paprika (for color) if I'm
feeling a little kicky.

Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)

dsi1 wrote:
> Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
> Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)

In Texas, tamales are traditionally served at Christmas. The stores
will have sales on pork, masa and lard, along with their sales for
turkey, sweet potatoes and cranberries.


In Hawaii, has KFC become a Christmas tradition for the islands as well
as for the Japanese?


Becca

On 3/7/2010 5:08 AM, Becca wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
>> Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)
>
> In Texas, tamales are traditionally served at Christmas. The stores will
> have sales on pork, masa and lard, along with their sales for turkey,
> sweet potatoes and cranberries.

Tamales is one of those foods that is made in large quantities to be
passed out to family and friends. They like to make a day out of it,
don't they? I have been on the receiving end of these tamales and I sure
wish I had more friends that passed these out. More common here is
pateles, which is a lot like tamales except instead of using masa paste,
green banana paste is used. The common filling is pork as in tamales.
Instead of corn husks, we'll use banana leaves or aluminum foil for the
wraps.

>
> In Hawaii, has KFC become a Christmas tradition for the islands as well
> as for the Japanese?

No, we think that KFC for Christmas is a pretty nutty idea too. :-)

>
> Becca

On 3/6/2010 11:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 3/5/2010 7:02 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
>> On Mar 5, 9:01 am, Sue or > wrote:
>>> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
>>> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
>>> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
>>> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
>>> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
>>> — 1 teaspoon pepper
>>> — 2 teaspoons salt
>>> — 2 tablespoons paprika
>>> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
>>> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
>>> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>>>
>>> Source: Ron Douglas
>>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>>
>>
>>
>> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
>> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
>> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
>> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
>> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
>> at KFC.
>
> One has to merely taste the original recipe chicken to see that it
> doesn't contain much, if any, herb flavor components. I always thought
> there was an odd taste that reminds me of Vienna sausages in KFC.
> Perhaps it contains ground Vienna sausages - or garlic powder? Salt,
> pepper, and MSG is pretty much what I use when making fried chicken. I
> make a great fried chicken - it's one of the few dishes that I excel at.
> Sometimes I'll use some dehydrated garlic or paprika (for color) if I'm
> feeling a little kicky.
>
> Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
> Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)
My childhood memories of KFC are different from todays taste which may
simply be age of tastebuds but I thought it used to be fried in hog lard
and that will add a (good) flavor by itself. Don't know what the fry in
now, anyone know? It used to have a mushroomy taste to me as a youngster
as I compared it to batter dipped and deep fries mushrooms we used to get.

--
regards, mike
piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r
http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/
(mawil55)

piedmont wrote:

>> Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
>> Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)
> My childhood memories of KFC are different from todays taste which may
> simply be age of tastebuds but I thought it used to be fried in hog lard
> and that will add a (good) flavor by itself. Don't know what the fry in
> now, anyone know? It used to have a mushroomy taste to me as a youngster
> as I compared it to batter dipped and deep fries mushrooms we used to get.

I first had KFC as a kid in the 50s and I loved the stuff. Maybe it was
the novelty. It was pretty good through the 60s. In the early 70s it was
disappointing. The last time I had it was about 10 years ago and it was
downright disgusting.

On Mar 7, 1:19*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> piedmont wrote:
> >> Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
> >> Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)
> > My childhood memories of KFC are different from todays taste which may
> > simply be age of tastebuds but I thought it used to be fried in hog lard
> > and that will add a (good) flavor by itself. Don't know what the fry in
> > now, anyone know? It used to have a mushroomy taste to me as a youngster
> > as I compared it to batter dipped and deep fries mushrooms we used to get.
>
> I first had KFC as a kid in the 50s and I loved the stuff. Maybe it was
> the novelty. It was pretty good through the 60s. In the early 70s it was
> disappointing. The last time I had it was about 10 years ago and it was
> downright disgusting.

It has way too much sodium in it now. They seem to rely on MSG. The
funny thing is that it is different from place to place. Some outlets
are way salty, and others are half decent. I don't get it. Maybe
they season from place to place(doubt it) or maybe the people at the
main plant goof off too much.

On 3/7/2010 7:54 AM, piedmont wrote:
> On 3/6/2010 11:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 3/5/2010 7:02 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
>>> On Mar 5, 9:01 am, Sue or > wrote:
>>>> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
>>>> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
>>>> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
>>>> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
>>>> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
>>>> — 1 teaspoon pepper
>>>> — 2 teaspoons salt
>>>> — 2 tablespoons paprika
>>>> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
>>>> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
>>>> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>>>>
>>>> Source: Ron Douglas
>>>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
>>> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
>>> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
>>> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
>>> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
>>> at KFC.
>>
>> One has to merely taste the original recipe chicken to see that it
>> doesn't contain much, if any, herb flavor components. I always thought
>> there was an odd taste that reminds me of Vienna sausages in KFC.
>> Perhaps it contains ground Vienna sausages - or garlic powder? Salt,
>> pepper, and MSG is pretty much what I use when making fried chicken. I
>> make a great fried chicken - it's one of the few dishes that I excel at.
>> Sometimes I'll use some dehydrated garlic or paprika (for color) if I'm
>> feeling a little kicky.
>>
>> Oddly enough, for a lot of Japanese folks, Christmas just ain't
>> Christmas without a traditional KFC dinner. I ain't making this up! :-)
> My childhood memories of KFC are different from todays taste which may
> simply be age of tastebuds but I thought it used to be fried in hog lard
> and that will add a (good) flavor by itself. Don't know what the fry in
> now, anyone know? It used to have a mushroomy taste to me as a youngster
> as I compared it to batter dipped and deep fries mushrooms we used to get.
>

The KFC we used to get as a kid was pretty great. Dad coming home with a
bucket of KFC was sure a welcome sight! Back then, it was cheap and
tasty, nowdays it's kinda pricey and just so-so. I don't know what they
fried it in but my guess it ain't the same stuff. Perhaps mushroom
powder was one of the 11 herbs and spices, more likely, you're tasting MSG.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:00:25 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:


>The KFC we used to get as a kid was pretty great. Dad coming home with a
>bucket of KFC was sure a welcome sight! Back then, it was cheap and
>tasty, nowdays it's kinda pricey and just so-so. I don't know what they
>fried it in but my guess it ain't the same stuff. Perhaps mushroom
>powder was one of the 11 herbs and spices, more likely, you're tasting MSG.

Fast food when I was a kid all seemed better than it does now. Part
may be my palate has matured but it's all gone downhill too. Arby's
used to be a treat we'd love to enjoy. Even mCshittes was edible.
Around 1980 I went to Taco Bell all the time. Now I find it revolting
mush. The secret herb and spice mix may produce good chicken but not
at KFC.

Lou

On 3/5/2010 12:02 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:01 am, Sue or > wrote:
>> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
>> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
>> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
>> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
>> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
>> — 1 teaspoon pepper
>> — 2 teaspoons salt
>> — 2 tablespoons paprika
>> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
>> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
>> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>>
>> Source: Ron Douglas
>> Seehttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today_books/
>
>
>
> A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
> the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
> found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
> Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
> and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
> at KFC.
That's what I read, on the Top Secret Recipe website they say the same
things, I made it even to the point of pressure frying and its as close
as anything, I assumed the 11 HS was pure marketing BS.

--
regards, mike
piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r
http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/
(mawil55)

"piedmont" > wrote in message ...
| On 3/5/2010 12:02 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
| >.........
| > A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
| > the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
| > found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
| > Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
| > and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
| > at KFC.

| That's what I read, on the Top Secret Recipe website they say the same
| things, I made it even to the point of pressure frying and its as close
| as anything, I assumed the 11 HS was pure marketing BS.

I think it's more probable that after the Good Colonel sold the US
business and moved himself to Ontario the original purchasers
of Kentucky Fried changed the recipes themselves to create lower food
costs. Colonel Sanders himself was quite convinced of this and very
angry, to the point of ultimately unsuccessful lawsuits:
(From Wikipedia's article on Harlan Sanders

"Sanders sold the Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation in 1964 for $2 million
to a partnership of Kentucky businessmen headed by John Y. Brown, Jr. The
deal did not include the Canadian operations. Sanders moved to Ontario and
continued to collect franchise fees. Sanders continued on with Kentucky Fried
Chicken as its spokesperson and collected appearance fees for his visits to
franchises in the United States and Canada. In 1973, he sued Heublein Inc.
(the KFC parent company at the time) over alleged misuse of his image in
promoting products he had not helped develop. In 1975, Heublein Inc.
unsuccessfully sued Sanders for libel after he publicly referred to their gravy
as "sludge" with a "wallpaper taste"."

pavane

pavane wrote:
> I think it's more probable that after the Good Colonel sold the US
> business and moved himself to Ontario the original purchasers
> of Kentucky Fried changed the recipes themselves to create lower food
> costs. Colonel Sanders himself was quite convinced of this and very
> angry, to the point of ultimately unsuccessful lawsuits:
> (From Wikipedia's article on Harlan Sanders
>
> "Sanders sold the Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation in 1964 for $2 million
> to a partnership of Kentucky businessmen headed by John Y. Brown, Jr. The
> deal did not include the Canadian operations. Sanders moved to Ontario and
> continued to collect franchise fees. Sanders continued on with Kentucky Fried
> Chicken as its spokesperson and collected appearance fees for his visits to
> franchises in the United States and Canada. In 1973, he sued Heublein Inc.
> (the KFC parent company at the time) over alleged misuse of his image in
> promoting products he had not helped develop. In 1975, Heublein Inc.
> unsuccessfully sued Sanders for libel after he publicly referred to their gravy
> as "sludge" with a "wallpaper taste"."
>
> pavane

Thanks for the history, I never knew that. The first time I tried KFC,
I was with my grandparents and it was 1970, so I never tasted the
original KFC recipe. I had chicken, mashed potatoes, gravy, cole slaw
and a roll. The chicken and the cole slaw was fine, but everything else
was just terrible. Their mashed potatoes and gravy tasted worse than
you would get in a 1970's frozen TV dinner. Thankfully, KFC has
improved and so have frozen entrees.


Becca

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:57:29 -0600, Becca > wrote:

> Thanks for the history, I never knew that. The first time I tried KFC,
> I was with my grandparents and it was 1970, so I never tasted the
> original KFC recipe. I had chicken, mashed potatoes, gravy, cole slaw
> and a roll. The chicken and the cole slaw was fine, but everything else
> was just terrible. Their mashed potatoes and gravy tasted worse than
> you would get in a 1970's frozen TV dinner. Thankfully, KFC has
> improved and so have frozen entrees.

It was awful by the time they changed the name. Makes me glad they
aren't dragging the real name in the mud anymore. I've always liked
their cole slaw and (yes) even their mashed potatoes and fake gravy...
but the chicken? No. Gobs of crunchy grease with more dripping down
your arm. Can't stand it. Church's chicken was so much better. I
don't know the back story, but McDonald's was built on that site after
a few years.

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On Mar 7, 4:57*pm, Becca > wrote:
> pavane wrote:
> > I think it's more probable that after the Good Colonel sold the US
> > business and moved himself to Ontario the original purchasers
> > of Kentucky Fried changed the recipes themselves to create lower food
> > costs. *Colonel Sanders himself was quite convinced of this and very
> > angry, to the point of ultimately unsuccessful lawsuits:
> > (From Wikipedia's article on Harlan Sanders
>
> > "Sanders sold the Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation in 1964 for $2 million
> > to a partnership of Kentucky businessmen headed by John Y. Brown, Jr. The
> > deal did not include the Canadian operations. Sanders moved to Ontario and
> > continued to collect franchise fees. Sanders continued on with Kentucky Fried
> > Chicken as its spokesperson and collected appearance fees for his visits to
> > franchises in the United States and Canada. In 1973, he sued Heublein Inc.
> > (the KFC parent company at the time) over alleged misuse of his image in
> > promoting products he had not helped develop. In 1975, Heublein Inc.
> > unsuccessfully sued Sanders for libel after he publicly referred to their gravy
> > as "sludge" with a "wallpaper taste"."
>
> > pavane
>
> Thanks for the history, I never knew that. *The first time I tried KFC,
> I was with my grandparents and it was 1970, so I never tasted the
> original KFC recipe. I had chicken, mashed potatoes, gravy, cole slaw
> and a roll. *The chicken and the cole slaw was fine, but everything else
> was just terrible. *Their mashed potatoes and gravy tasted worse than
> you would get in a 1970's frozen TV dinner. *Thankfully, KFC has
> improved and so have frozen entrees. *
>

Their potato salad is mass produced crap. It's mixed up in a machine,
so half of it ends up mashed. A poor excuse even for a fast food
restaurant.

> Becca- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Mar 7, 1:48*pm, "pavane" > wrote:
> "piedmont" > wrote in ...
>
> | On 3/5/2010 12:02 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
> | >.........
> | > A guy named William Poundstone got hold of some of the breading with
> | > the Colonials "Secret Spices" in it and did a chemical analysis. He
> | > found exactly four ingredients: Salt, pepper, flour and MSG. Maybe old
> | > Harlan was using eleven herbs and spices back in Kentucky in the 50s,
> | > and it probably rocked, but nobody is using eleven of anything today
> | > at KFC.
>
> | That's what I read, on the Top Secret Recipe website they say the same
> | things, I made it even to the point of pressure frying and its as close
> | as anything, I assumed the 11 HS was pure marketing BS.
>
> I think it's more probable that after the Good Colonel sold the US
> business and moved himself to Ontario the original purchasers
> of Kentucky Fried changed the recipes themselves to create lower food
> costs. *Colonel Sanders himself was quite convinced of this and very
> angry, to the point of ultimately unsuccessful lawsuits:
> (From Wikipedia's article on Harlan Sanders
>
> "Sanders sold the Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation in 1964 for $2 million
> to a partnership of Kentucky businessmen headed by John Y. Brown, Jr. The
> deal did not include the Canadian operations. Sanders moved to Ontario and
> continued to collect franchise fees. Sanders continued on with Kentucky Fried
> Chicken as its spokesperson and collected appearance fees for his visits to
> franchises in the United States and Canada. In 1973, he sued Heublein Inc..
> (the KFC parent company at the time) over alleged misuse of his image in
> promoting products he had not helped develop. In 1975, Heublein Inc.
> unsuccessfully sued Sanders for libel after he publicly referred to their gravy
> as "sludge" with a "wallpaper taste"."
>

The gravy is pretty lousy.

> pavane

In article
>,
"Bent Attorney Esq." > wrote:

> > "Sanders sold the Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation in 1964 for $2 million
> > to a partnership of Kentucky businessmen headed by John Y. Brown, Jr. The
> > deal did not include the Canadian operations. Sanders moved to Ontario and
> > continued to collect franchise fees. Sanders continued on with Kentucky
> > Fried
> > Chicken as its spokesperson and collected appearance fees for his visits to
> > franchises in the United States and Canada. In 1973, he sued Heublein Inc.
> > (the KFC parent company at the time) over alleged misuse of his image in
> > promoting products he had not helped develop. In 1975, Heublein Inc.
> > unsuccessfully sued Sanders for libel after he publicly referred to their
> > gravy
> > as "sludge" with a "wallpaper taste"."
> >
>
> The gravy is pretty lousy.

It pretty much has no flavor. Adding butter helps.
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I've eaten KFC only twice in my life and on both occasions suffered the most
severe indigestion. Never again!
Graham

In article
>,
Sue or Wendy > wrote:

> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> ‹ 1 teaspoon chili powder
> ‹ 1 teaspoon ground sage
> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried basil
> ‹ 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> ‹ 1 teaspoon pepper
> ‹ 2 teaspoons salt
> ‹ 2 tablespoons paprika
> ‹ 1 teaspoon onion salt
> ‹ 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> ‹ 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> Source: Ron Douglas
> See http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027188/ns/today-today books/

Is this for their regular chicken?
I do love KFC's "original" recipe...
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>
> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> — 1 teaspoon pepper
> — 2 teaspoons salt
> — 2 tablespoons paprika
> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> Source: Ron Douglas
> See http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/320271...y-today_books/
>



What is 'Accent'??


No matter........ GIMF....... it's MSG!!!



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Sue or Wendy wrote:
> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> — 1 teaspoon pepper
> — 2 teaspoons salt
> — 2 tablespoons paprika
> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> Source: Ron Douglas
> See http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/320271...y-today_books/

What is 'Accent'??


No matter........ GFY....... it's LSD!!!

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Sue or Wendy wrote:
> — 1 teaspoon ground oregano
> — 1 teaspoon chili powder
> — 1 teaspoon ground sage
> — 1 teaspoon dried basil
> — 1 teaspoon dried marjoram
> — 1 teaspoon pepper
> — 2 teaspoons salt
> — 2 tablespoons paprika
> — 1 teaspoon onion salt
> — 1 teaspoon garlic powder
> — 2 tablespoons Accent
>
> Source: Ron Douglas
> See http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/320271...y-today_books/


I would be really surprised if the real "11 Herbs and Spices"® was
anything more than salt and pepper.

Bob