Hello All!

I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
think it worthy of a survey.

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James Silverton wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
> think it worthy of a survey.

Apparently, oleo is margarine, but as far as I know is a term used only
in the US. I have only heard one person actually use the word, and he
owned a bar in Buffalo and said that he used Franks hot sauce and oleo
for the Buffalo wings served in his bar.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
>> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
>> think it worthy of a survey.
>
> Apparently, oleo is margarine, but as far as I know is a term used only in
> the US. I have only heard one person actually use the word, and he owned a
> bar in Buffalo and said that he used Franks hot sauce and oleo for the
> Buffalo wings served in his bar.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine
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Dave Smith wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
>> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
>> think it worthy of a survey.
>
> Apparently, oleo is margarine, but as far as I know is a term used only
> in the US. I have only heard one person actually use the word, and he
> owned a bar in Buffalo and said that he used Franks hot sauce and oleo
> for the Buffalo wings served in his bar.
>
Prior to the fifties oleo used to be the common word for oleomargarine
in the US. I remember being allowed to combine the dry yellow dye into
the white oleo bars Mom would buy at the store. Real butter was going to
the service people overseas and to the war effort as a "real" fat.

We did get the odd bit of butter when we visited my uncle's place in the
country.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
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> Hello All!
>
> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I correct
> in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it
> worthy of a survey.
>
> --
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Wasn't margarine first marketed as Oleomargarine?

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
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> Hello All!
>
> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I correct
> in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it
> worthy of a survey.
>
> --
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
Why would you survey to find a fact?

"l, not -l" > wrote in message
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>
> On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" > wrote:
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>> > Email, with obvious alterations:
>> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
>> Why would you survey to find a fact?
>
> Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. ;-)
> --
Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
carbohydrate?

In article >,
"Tom Biasi" > wrote:

> "l, not -l" > wrote in message
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> > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" > wrote:
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> >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
> >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
> >> Why would you survey to find a fact?
> >
> > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. ;-)
> > --
> Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
> carbohydrate?

Or honey? <g>
I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>
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On Sep 29, 9:35*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Tom Biasi" > wrote:
>
> > "l, not -l" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" > wrote:
>
> > >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
> > >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
> > >> Why would you survey to find a fact?
>
> > > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. * ;-)
> > > --
> > Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
> > carbohydrate?
>
> Or honey? <g>
> I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>

And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
were mammals. He said we were _not_ animals. Only animals were
mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
him the error of his ways.

maxine in ri

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>,
maxine > wrote:

> On Sep 29, 9:35*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *"Tom Biasi" > wrote:
> >
> > > "l, not -l" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" > wrote:
> >
> > > >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
> > > >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
> > > >> Why would you survey to find a fact?
> >
> > > > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. * ;-)
> > > > --
> > > Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
> > > carbohydrate?
> >
> > Or honey? <g>
> > I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>
>
> And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
> were mammals. He said we were not animals. Only animals were
> mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
> him the error of his ways.
>
> maxine in ri

<snork>

Sounds like a flat earther...
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:07:19 -0700 (PDT), maxine wrote:

> On Sep 29, 9:35*pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> *"Tom Biasi" > wrote:
>>
>>> "l, not -l" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" > wrote:
>>
>>> >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
>>> >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
>>> >> Why would you survey to find a fact?
>>
>>> > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. * ;-)
>>> > --
>>> Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
>>> carbohydrate?
>>
>> Or honey? <g>
>> I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>
>
> And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
> were mammals. He said we were _not_ animals. Only animals were
> mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
> him the error of his ways.
>
> maxine in ri

a fundamentalist christian, i'm guessing?

your pal,
blake

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Hello All!
>
> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I correct
> in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it
> worthy of a survey.
>
> --
>
>
> James Silverton
>
>
If you're old enough, in the pre-geezer phase, you know exactly what oleo
is.

Ed

James Silverton wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
> think it worthy of a survey.
>

IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
>> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
>> think it worthy of a survey.
>>
>
> IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.
>



I believe the "oleo" traces back to the word "oil".

From an etymology website:
(margarin), a chemical term, "fatty substance obtained from animal and
vegetable oil," from Fr. margarine, coined by Chevreul (1813) from
(acide) margarique "margaric (acid) 1836

So...does that mean oleomargarine = "oily oil"?

gloria p

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
>> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
>> think it worthy of a survey.
>>
>
> IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.
>
My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of yellow
coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used anything
but real butter for the rest of her life.

cybercat wrote on Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400:


> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or
>>> butter. Am I correct in saying that oleo means margerine?
>>> Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it worthy of a survey.
>>>
>> IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.
>>
>My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of
>yellow coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used
>anything but real butter for the rest of her life.

While WWII places in time the practice of supplying the coloring matter
separately, it had little to do with the war. The need to personally add
the color was a concession in some states to the Wisconsin dairy
industry, AFAIK.


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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
"James Silverton" > wrote:

> cybercat wrote on Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400:

> >My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of
> >yellow coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used
> >anything but real butter for the rest of her life.
>
> While WWII places in time the practice of supplying the coloring matter
> separately, it had little to do with the war. The need to personally add
> the color was a concession in some states to the Wisconsin dairy
> industry, AFAIK.

It wasn't just Wisconsin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine

What WWII did was to restrict the availability of butter, so more were
forced to use margarine.

"1902 restrictions on margarine color, for example, cut annual U.S.
consumption from 120 million to 48 million pounds"

"As of 2008, the sale of yellow margarine remained illegal (although
unenforced) in the U.S. state of Missouri."

"Quebec, the last Canadian province to regulate margarine coloring,
repealed its law requiring margarine to be colorless in July, 2008."

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400, "cybercat" >
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of yellow
>coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used anything
>but real butter for the rest of her life.
>
I have *never* had margarine in my kitchen, yet my kids both keep
Parkay in their refrigerators. Where, oh, where did I go wrong?

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:06:24 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400, "cybercat" >
>fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of yellow
>>coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used anything
>>but real butter for the rest of her life.
>>
>I have *never* had margarine in my kitchen, yet my kids both keep
>Parkay in their refrigerators. Where, oh, where did I go wrong?
>
>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

We think none the less of you Squeaks, it happens in the best of
families.

koko
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updated 09/27

"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400, "cybercat" >
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of
>>yellow
>>coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used anything
>>but real butter for the rest of her life.
>>
> I have *never* had margarine in my kitchen, yet my kids both keep
> Parkay in their refrigerators. Where, oh, where did I go wrong?
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

I think you forget to endow then each with several Million Dollars like the
Kennedy's.


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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:06:24 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400, "cybercat" >
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of yellow
>>coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used anything
>>but real butter for the rest of her life.
>>
> I have *never* had margarine in my kitchen, yet my kids both keep
> Parkay in their refrigerators. Where, oh, where did I go wrong?
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

i guess it's better than rebelling by taking drugs, but not by much.

your pal,
blake

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> I have *never* had margarine in my kitchen, yet my kids both keep
> Parkay in their refrigerators. Where, oh, where did I go wrong?
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

My mother used butter and margarine. She would use margarine to cook
pancakes because butter would burn.


Speaking of children, my youngest one eats the blue box mac & cheese.


Becca