We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.

Our first fountain (at the train station)
http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg

The deli at the train station where we got a snack before walking to
our hotel http://i36.tinypic.com/2np2t5.jpg

The hotel http://www.hotelducadalba.com/

Afternoon snack near the hotel - Pizza!
http://i34.tinypic.com/2m81su8.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/16ixhxf.jpg

We slept for a few hours and didn’t feel like going out for dinner
although there were several places within steps of the hotel, so we
ate leftover pizza and drank complimentary wine.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ymc84n.jpg

Breakfast was unbelievable! I’ll take the camera with me tomorrow
morning. What was I thinking?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
>
> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
> Our first fountain (at the train station)
> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg
>
> The deli at the train station where we got a snack before walking to
> our hotel http://i36.tinypic.com/2np2t5.jpg
>
> The hotel http://www.hotelducadalba.com/
>
> Afternoon snack near the hotel - Pizza!
> http://i34.tinypic.com/2m81su8.jpg
> http://i37.tinypic.com/16ixhxf.jpg
>
> We slept for a few hours and didn't feel like going out for dinner
> although there were several places within steps of the hotel, so we
> ate leftover pizza and drank complimentary wine.
>
> http://i37.tinypic.com/2ymc84n.jpg
>
> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
> morning. What was I thinking?
>

So coool! Take the train to Florence asap! Don't believe anything the Romas
say about Florence or Tuscany! And watch out for the Gypsy children ...

sf wrote:
> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.

Yeah sure you did. As you set at home or sleep at home in your own bed.
Nothing in the headers of your post indicates otherwise. Nice try.

me wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
> Yeah sure you did. As you set at home or sleep at home in your own
> bed. Nothing in the headers of your post indicates otherwise. Nice
> try.

Oooooooooooooh there goes the green eyed monster)

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> me wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>>
>> Yeah sure you did. As you set at home or sleep at home in your own
>> bed. Nothing in the headers of your post indicates otherwise. Nice
>> try.
>
> Oooooooooooooh there goes the green eyed monster)
>

I have this asshole kfed, apparently. BTW, the "back forty" is a reference
to old farm days, "the back 40 acres" they would plow/plant/work after
having a heavy dinner like we did tonight! Only we have no farm and push
paper for a living!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> me wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>>
>> Yeah sure you did. As you set at home or sleep at home in your own
>> bed. Nothing in the headers of your post indicates otherwise. Nice
>> try.
>
> Oooooooooooooh there goes the green eyed monster)

Meanwhile, tell this asshole that headers do not show IP or any other
indicator of location in easynews.

Some cowering simpleton wrote from her parents' basement:

>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
> Yeah sure you did. As you set at home or sleep at home in your own bed.
> Nothing in the headers of your post indicates otherwise. Nice try.

New to this stuff, huh? Can you tell where *I* am? Can you even tell what my
IP address is, or what my ISP is? No? Well, how about that.

Bob

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:18:26 -0700, me > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
>Yeah sure you did. As you set at home or sleep at home in your own bed.
>Nothing in the headers of your post indicates otherwise. Nice try.

<shrug> I haven't changed this computer's time from my home time and
you certainly can't tell where in the world I'm posting by my headers,
Dumbo.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:


> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
> morning. What was I thinking?

That's a bit odd to me; I never thought Italians went in much for lavish
breakfasts. (When I lived in Italy, our standard breakfast was a roll, fruit
and/or juice, and espresso.) Was this perhaps a place which caters to
foreigners?

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

>> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
>> morning. What was I thinking?

> That's a bit odd to me; I never thought Italians went in much for
> lavish breakfasts. (When I lived in Italy, our standard breakfast was
> a roll, fruit and/or juice, and espresso.)

Exactly, almost always only sweet things, savoury foods are uncommon here.

> Was this perhaps a place
> which caters to foreigners?

Almost every italian hotel offers international breakfasta nowadays, that's
why you can find many savoury things and other things we usually don't have
for breakfast.
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
>>> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
>>> morning. What was I thinking?
>
>> That's a bit odd to me; I never thought Italians went in much for
>> lavish breakfasts. (When I lived in Italy, our standard breakfast was
>> a roll, fruit and/or juice, and espresso.)
>
> Exactly, almost always only sweet things, savoury foods are uncommon here.
>
>> Was this perhaps a place
>> which caters to foreigners?
>
> Almost every italian hotel offers international breakfasta nowadays,
> that's why you can find many savoury things and other things we usually
> don't have for breakfast.
> --

SF is in a hotel that clearly caters to Americans.

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:09:30 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>SF is in a hotel that clearly caters to Americans.

and other foreigners, including Italians. It's a business so they
have something for everyone.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:57:16 GMT, "ViLco" > wrote:

>Almost every italian hotel offers international breakfasta nowadays, that's
>why you can find many savoury things and other things we usually don't have
>for breakfast.

Thank god because I hate sweets for breakfast, especially when they
are baked goods. Waffles and pancakes get a pass.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:57:16 GMT, "ViLco" > wrote:
>
>>Almost every italian hotel offers international breakfasta nowadays,
>>that's
>>why you can find many savoury things and other things we usually don't
>>have
>>for breakfast.
>
> Thank god because I hate sweets for breakfast, especially when they
> are baked goods. Waffles and pancakes get a pass.

We always found some meats and cheese, sometimes eggs.

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:55:18 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:57:16 GMT, "ViLco" > wrote:
>>
>>>Almost every italian hotel offers international breakfasta nowadays,
>>>that's
>>>why you can find many savoury things and other things we usually don't
>>>have
>>>for breakfast.
>>
>> Thank god because I hate sweets for breakfast, especially when they
>> are baked goods. Waffles and pancakes get a pass.
>
>We always found some meats and cheese, sometimes eggs.
>
In case I didn't make myself clear, this is *complimentary*. There is
something for every taste be you American, European or someone who
wants variety. However they don't serve Jook.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:42:47 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>
>> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
>> morning. What was I thinking?
>
>That's a bit odd to me; I never thought Italians went in much for lavish
>breakfasts. (When I lived in Italy, our standard breakfast was a roll, fruit
>and/or juice, and espresso.)

Why on earth do you think it's odd? Scratch that. I really don't
want to know.

>Was this perhaps a place which caters to foreigners?
>
>Bob
>
>
No shit, Sherlock. I doubt many Romans book a room there here.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:42:47 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
>>> morning. What was I thinking?
>>
>>That's a bit odd to me; I never thought Italians went in much for lavish
>>breakfasts. (When I lived in Italy, our standard breakfast was a roll,
>>fruit
>>and/or juice, and espresso.)
>
> Why on earth do you think it's odd? Scratch that. I really don't
> want to know.
>
>>Was this perhaps a place which caters to foreigners?
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>
> No shit, Sherlock. I doubt many Romans book a room there here.
>
I missed my American breakfasts while in Italy. I would have been happy to
stay at a luxury hotel and have a big American breakfast, then do as the
Italians do the rest of the day! (I think they don't have big breakfasts
because of the customary large mid-day meal.)

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:28:47 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>I missed my American breakfasts while in Italy. I would have been happy to
>stay at a luxury hotel and have a big American breakfast, then do as the
>Italians do the rest of the day! (I think they don't have big breakfasts
>because of the customary large mid-day meal.)
>
Hubby is the breakfast person, so he's in hog heaven. I'm happy too.
So far, we've gone Italian style by eating a decent lunch - just
plain skipped dinner altogether.

We're off to the National Museum, Borghese gallery and the Spanish
Steps (the Rodeo Drive of Rome, I guess). Maybe we'll eat dinner
today.



--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

>> Was this perhaps a place which caters to foreigners?
>>
> No shit, Sherlock. I doubt many Romans book a room there here.

Do you suppose Romans are the only Italians in Rome? Where do you suppose
visitors from Milan or Taormina would stay when in Rome, Watson? They have
to stay *somewhere*.

My point was that many people looking to "experience Italy" would opt for a
more "Italian" place. No need for you to take offense; when I lived in
Rimini, the hotel where I lived was frequented by Italians during the
off-season. (Rimini's a major vacation destination during the summer, and
the hotel rates get jacked up accordingly.)

Bob

sf wrote:

> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.

sf, welcome to Italy

> Our first fountain (at the train station)
> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg
>
> The deli at the train station where we got a snack before walking to
> our hotel http://i36.tinypic.com/2np2t5.jpg
>
> The hotel http://www.hotelducadalba.com/
>
> Afternoon snack near the hotel - Pizza!
> http://i34.tinypic.com/2m81su8.jpg
> http://i37.tinypic.com/16ixhxf.jpg

Your first italian pizza, the bakery style one, very good start. What are
you waiting for a round, pizzeria syle pizza? Roma has it's very own
style.
BTW, that place has a very nice assortment.

If you tell me how long are you staying and where, I can suggest you some
renowned places for many things, from pizzerias to restaurants. There's
plenty of discussion on the topic, on the italian newsgroups.

> We slept for a few hours and didn't feel like going out for dinner
> although there were several places within steps of the hotel, so we
> ate leftover pizza and drank complimentary wine.
>
> http://i37.tinypic.com/2ymc84n.jpg
>
> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
> morning. What was I thinking?

LOL
Are you going to pay a visit to Giusi? Where are you going to be in this
vacation?
Merry traveling
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:04:28 GMT, "ViLco" > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
>sf, welcome to Italy
>
Thank you, I'm having a great time!

>I can suggest you some
>renowned places for many things, from pizzerias to restaurants. There's
>plenty of discussion on the topic, on the italian newsgroups.

Thanks, I'd love some suggestions... but I think we'll be able to make
good choices on our own. We walk and read menus, look at table that
have been served and make our decisions that way. Unlike the person
who complained about food in Paris, I don't need to eat in 5 star
restaurants to be happy with the food.
>
>> Breakfast was unbelievable! I'll take the camera with me tomorrow
>> morning. What was I thinking?
>
>LOL
>Are you going to pay a visit to Giusi?

Unfortunately, we're both on vacation at the same time. I don't think
she's close to Rome, but I think we will be in her area at some point.
I emailed Pandora at an old address I dug up from google. It hasn't
come back so it must be good, but I haven't heard from her. I believe
she was in a suburb of Rome. I don't remember now other than I
thought she was close.

>Where are you going to be in this vacation?

After 7 days in Rome, I'm boarding a ship for a 28 day cruise. We'll
make several stops in Italy and Greece, and one each in Croatia,
Turkey and Egypt.

>Merry traveling

Thank you! I'll be online while in Rome but not so much or not at all
onboard the ship. Internet access is free here at this hotel, but I
heard it's very pricey (like the bad old days of paying by the minute
in the USA) onboard the ship.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

>> Where are you going to be in this vacation?

> After 7 days in Rome, I'm boarding a ship for a 28 day cruise. We'll
> make several stops in Italy and Greece, and one each in Croatia,
> Turkey and Egypt.

Very nice. So, in case you woudl try some good places, which are not 3
michelin stars ones and are between the preferred ones by the local
population, have a look at these, maybe ask the hotel personnel about them.

"Bir en Fud" (beer and food written so to be spelled right by an italian)
It's considered one of the best pizza places in Rome, located in Piazza
Trilussa between the center and Trastevere, with a real wood oven, and with
a very good selection of microbrewery beers, Bir en Fud offers many special
antipasti, some typical of roman cuisine while others are not. They'r pizza
is not che classic crispy roman style pizza but is made with long leavening
times and few raising agent, the best is the simplets, the Margherita.
Another special which is very recommanded are the "supplì", classic roman
snack.
Average expense: 25 euro per person including some antipasto, pizza and beer
(ask for the beer chart or they'll simply suggest you one or two). This is
more than what you pay in other pizzeris, but looks like Bir en Fud is worth
them all.

"Pizzarium" (via della Meloria)
Another good pizza place, with a very wide range of toppings offered and
good beers. A little less expensive than Bir en Fud.

"Chicco er carrettiere" (Francesco the carter, in roman slang) Trastevere
Typical roman cuisine with a good hand on the pans and pots and a reasonable
price, big servings and all of the classics on the menu'. About 30 for a
normal lunch, upto 45 for a full size dinner from antipasti to first courses
to second courses and sides to desserts.

These were the first three I recalled being discussed on the italian
restaurants newsgroup. As I'll have the time, I'll be sending you some more
addresses for typical roman kitchen.

--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

"ViLco" > wrote:
>These were the first three I recalled being discussed on the italian
>restaurants newsgroup. As I'll have the time, I'll be sending you some more
>addresses for typical roman kitchen.

Hi, I'm curious to know - what is the name of the Italian restaurant
newsgroup? Hey, I listen to opera. :-)

jj wrote:

>> These were the first three I recalled being discussed on the italian
>> restaurants newsgroup. As I'll have the time, I'll be sending you
>> some more addresses for typical roman kitchen.

> Hi, I'm curious to know - what is the name of the Italian restaurant
> newsgroup?

it.discussioni.ristoranti

> Hey, I listen to opera. :-)

lol
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:06:48 GMT, "ViLco" > wrote:

>These were the first three I recalled being discussed on the italian
>restaurants newsgroup. As I'll have the time, I'll be sending you some more
>addresses for typical roman kitchen.

Thanks, Vilco!

--
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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>
>>> Where are you going to be in this vacation?
>
>> After 7 days in Rome, I'm boarding a ship for a 28 day cruise. We'll
>> make several stops in Italy and Greece, and one each in Croatia,
>> Turkey and Egypt.
>
> Very nice. So, in case you woudl try some good places, which are not 3
> michelin stars ones and are between the preferred ones by the local
> population, have a look at these, maybe ask the hotel personnel about
> them.
>
> "Bir en Fud" (beer and food written so to be spelled right by an italian)
> It's considered one of the best pizza places in Rome, located in Piazza
> Trilussa between the center and Trastevere, with a real wood oven, and
> with a very good selection of microbrewery beers, Bir en Fud offers many
> special antipasti, some typical of roman cuisine while others are not.
> They'r pizza is not che classic crispy roman style pizza but is made with
> long leavening times and few raising agent, the best is the simplets, the
> Margherita. Another special which is very recommanded are the "supplì",
> classic roman snack.
> Average expense: 25 euro per person including some antipasto, pizza and
> beer (ask for the beer chart or they'll simply suggest you one or two).
> This is more than what you pay in other pizzeris, but looks like Bir en
> Fud is worth them all.
>
> "Pizzarium" (via della Meloria)
> Another good pizza place, with a very wide range of toppings offered and
> good beers. A little less expensive than Bir en Fud.
>
> "Chicco er carrettiere" (Francesco the carter, in roman slang) Trastevere
> Typical roman cuisine with a good hand on the pans and pots and a
> reasonable price, big servings and all of the classics on the menu'. About
> 30 for a normal lunch, upto 45 for a full size dinner from antipasti to
> first courses to second courses and sides to desserts.
>
> These were the first three I recalled being discussed on the italian
> restaurants newsgroup. As I'll have the time, I'll be sending you some
> more addresses for typical roman kitchen.
>
SF,
One of our favorite places to eat in Rome was Quirino (Vicolo della Scala,
3) in Travestere. It was a simple neighborhood restaurant around the corner
from our hotel, but served us some of the best food we had in Italy (and we
had some truly great meals). It was the only eatery that demanded a repeat
visit in the 3 weeks we were in Italy.

Where else are you going in Italy?

Jon

On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:

> Our first fountain (at the train station)
> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg

Somehow, I envisioned something just a tad more ornate.

nb

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:05:42 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:
>
>> Our first fountain (at the train station)
>> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg
>
>Somehow, I envisioned something just a tad more ornate.
>

I hoped someone would get a chuckle out of that. I met my goal of
one. YAY!


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:

> I hoped someone would get a chuckle out of that. I met my goal of
> one. YAY!

heh heh....

Yeah, that's me ...easily amused.

Keep the great pics, coming. Try and get one of a scooter. Nothing
says Italy like a young guy or gal wizzing past or just posing on a
Vespa.

nb

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:28:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Keep the great pics, coming. Try and get one of a scooter. Nothing
>says Italy like a young guy or gal wizzing past or just posing on a
>Vespa.

Would you like a picture of mass parked scooters or one that is
running me down? I can do either one.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:

> Would you like a picture of mass parked scooters or one that is
> running me down? I can do either one.

lol....

The "mass parked" will do. I'm a machine buff. OTOH, if you run
across a statuesque Italian lass with a revealing cargo rack and no
scooter at all, that will suffice.

nb ...old but not dead

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:05:42 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:
>
>> Our first fountain (at the train station)
>> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg
>
>Somehow, I envisioned something just a tad more ornate.
>
>nb

I am no expert, but when we were in Firenze, I figured those were
places, where in ancient times, towns people could get water. Really
stretching here, but aqueducts comes to mind. IIRC Romans figured how
to move water and make it accessible far away from the source which
was remarkable. I believe this type of "fountain" is one.

aloha,
Cea

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:31:58 -1000, pure kona >
wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:05:42 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> Our first fountain (at the train station)
>>> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg
>>
>>Somehow, I envisioned something just a tad more ornate.
>>
>>nb
>
>I am no expert, but when we were in Firenze, I figured those were
>places, where in ancient times, towns people could get water. Really
>stretching here, but aqueducts comes to mind. IIRC Romans figured how
>to move water and make it accessible far away from the source which
>was remarkable. I believe this type of "fountain" is one.
>

People now refill their water bottles at them. It's kinda cool
actually.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:05:42 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2009-09-24, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> Our first fountain (at the train station)
>>> http://i37.tinypic.com/r7ud5h.jpg
>>
>>Somehow, I envisioned something just a tad more ornate.
>>
>>nb
>
> I am no expert, but when we were in Firenze, I figured those were
> places, where in ancient times, towns people could get water. Really
> stretching here, but aqueducts comes to mind. IIRC Romans figured how
> to move water and make it accessible far away from the source which
> was remarkable. I believe this type of "fountain" is one.
>
You bet!

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:27:29 -0700, sf > wrote:

>
>We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
ary wine.
>
>http://i37.tinypic.com/2ymc84n.jpg
>
>Breakfast was unbelievable! I’ll take the camera with me tomorrow
>morning. What was I thinking?
Thanks for the photos! Envious here. The Hotel is very deluxe
looking and I think I'd spend time just enjoying that. lol

The deli photos are so Italian. Everything is beautiful and tastes
just about as good. The pizza photos look so yummy! I love Italian
casual food.

Thanks so much.

aloha,
Cea

sf wrote:
> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.

Have an absolute ball, Barb! Don't get your butt pinched.

Dora

"Dora" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
> Have an absolute ball, Barb! Don't get your butt pinched.
>
> Dora

Oh, DO get your butt pinched! Isn't that part of the experience?

Felice

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:50:13 -0400, "Dora" > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.
>
>Have an absolute ball, Barb! Don't get your butt pinched.
>
I think I'm safe....



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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

> Breakfast was unbelievable! I’ll take the camera with me tomorrow
> morning. What was I thinking?

I have had some great breakfast buffets in hotels in Germany and in
Denmark. There were great assortments or breads, rolls, pastries, cold
cuts, cheeses, as well as hot and cold cereals, yoghurt, fruits,
juices, sausages, bacon, eggs etc. They were all very high quality. Some
in France had good quality but less variety. Some were disappointing.
last year in Copenhagen we went back to a hotel where we had stayed a
few years earlier. It had had a very good buffet on our first stay but
the hotel is now a Best Western and the quality went way down.

sf wrote:
> We arrived in Rome by train from the airport.

You schlep yourself to Rome and im still sitting here on the other side
of the bay waiting to show you around Chinatown!

Tsk, tsk, i mean really Have a Chinzano at the Spanish Steps & toss a
coin in the Trevi fountain for me

And if its not already on your itinerary don't miss the gardens/park of
the Villa Borghese.

There's an old Roman Bath House (Baths of Caracalla?) that now days
houses and open air food market, very popular with the locals.
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
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