Kate Connally said...

> Andy wrote:
>> Tacos
>>
>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>
>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly gobbled
>> all up.
>>
>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>
>> Andrés
>
> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>
> Kate


Kate,

Are you tryin' to start our first fight??

Who's side are you on?

Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!

.... ?

HRUMPH!!!

Andy

In article >, Andy > wrote:

> Omelet said...
>
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> Nor would I have hot
> >> dogs for breakfast
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Why not? They are just a type of sausage. <g>
>
>
> Yeppers!... and is anything wrong with ANYTHING (potato salad, for instance)
> for breakfast?!?
>
> <-- Looking around -->
>
> Andy

I rarely eat breakfast for breakfast any more. ;-) Warmed up leftovers
are more the norm, unless I just really really want some fresh cooked
eggs. ;-d
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
koko > wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:46:23 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> snippage
> >
> >By the way, can corn tortillas be frozen and thawed without
> >crumbling? I had to buy a 2 lb. pkg.
>
> Yes, just throw the whole pkg in the freezer. When ready just wiggle a
> table knife between the tortillas and they'll seperate perfectly.
>
> koko
> --
>
> There is no love more sincere than the love of food
> George Bernard Shaw
> www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
> updated 03/07

Seconded. I've done this many times in the past.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
bulka > wrote:


> I remember a stand-up commedian doing a bit about Mexico being a
> cuisine with only one good meal, served a dozen different ways - taco,
> burrito, tostada, nachos, enchilada, flauta, etc. etc. The same basic
> ingredients piled in different order.

I don't know much about Mexico, but I understand that they have regional
cuisines, and that foods common in one part of Mexico aren't common in
other parts. Furthermore, there are a lot of questions about how much
the "Mexican" food in the US is actually what the people in Mexico eat.

So this topic is about tacos. That's what Mexicans eat, right? We have
a local Mexican restaurant near my house (California). Most of the
customers speak only Spanish. Very seldom do I see them order tacos.
They order a plate. It comes with other stuff, and warmed tortillas.
If they want, they take a tortilla and put "stuff" on it. Some fold it,
and some roll it. Some eat corn tortillas, some wheat. Some just eat
the tortillas as a side. I suspect that they would be surprised that we
were having a debate about tacos.

There are people who claim that the burrito is a California invention.
Certainly there are burritos in a very limited area of Mexico, but these
people claim that the burrito started in the US, and migrated to Mexico.
We won't even go into the bitter arguments about the Northern California
burrito and the Southern California burrito. Of course, California used
to be part of Mexico, and some of the really old things in California
have Spanish names, like San Francisco (Saint Francis) and Los Angeles
(City of the Angels).

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Mar 10, 12:43 pm, Dan Abel > wrote:

> I don't know much about Mexico, but I understand that they have regional
> cuisines, and that foods common in one part of Mexico aren't common in
> other parts. Furthermore, there are a lot of questions about how much
> the "Mexican" food in the US is actually what the people in Mexico eat.
>
>
Most USAican "ethnic" food is evolved from what it started as, which
was mostly peasant food from our immigrant ancestors.

Mexico is a big place, varioius indigenous cultures, varios
invasions. Of course there is a wide variety of foods. Ask or watch
Rick Bayliss for example.

Tacos and burritos - that's like saying the USA food is hot dogs and
mac & cheese.

I'd rather eat the Mex.

B

Dan Abel > wrote:

> I don't know much about Mexico, but I understand that they
> have regional cuisines, and that foods common in one part of
> Mexico aren't common in other parts. Furthermore, there are
> a lot of questions about how much the "Mexican" food in the US
> is actually what the people in Mexico eat.

There is a lot of FUD spread by ill-informed food writers
about the authenticity of Mexican food in the U.S.
My response is to refer to most of it as Sonoran-style Mexican
food, Sonora being the northern state within the borders
of modern Mexico whose food most resembles that now served
in California and much of the U.S. In particular anything
employing flour tortillas, including burittos, can be
traced to Sonora. (However, a few items like fish tacos are
better described as from Baja California, and a probably even
fewer number of Tejano dishes are truly describable as Tex-Mex,
and then there is of course the separate cuisine of New Mexico,
also a former Mexican state, all of which are represented
in the U.S.)

The worst-case scenario is when someone refers to the
food indigenous to Sonora and/or the historic Alta California
as either "Tex-Mex", or "not authentic Mexican". Either
of these is way off.

> So this topic is about tacos. That's what Mexicans eat, right?
> We have a local Mexican restaurant near my house (California).
> Most of the customers speak only Spanish. Very seldom do
> I see them order tacos. They order a plate. It comes with
> other stuff, and warmed tortillas. If they want, they take a
> tortilla and put "stuff" on it. Some fold it, and some roll it.
> Some eat corn tortillas, some wheat. Some just eat the tortillas
> as a side. I suspect that they would be surprised that we were
> having a debate about tacos.

I suspect so too.

Food gets transformed over time. A restaurant near me at the
moment serves "Navajo Fry Bread". The Navaho, like other
Indians, natively eat corn. Yet Navajo Fry Bread is made
from wheat flour, which of course is what the U.S. government
shipped them to avoid famine after having destroyed their
ecology and economy. I suspect the populartity of wheat
flour, and hence flour tortillas in Sonora stems from the
post-Mexican-war era, when the government of Mexico transferred
a large population to their northern border, to discourage
further military incursions from the _bahana_. This new
population needed food, did not have enough corn planted,
and so ended up being wheat-eaters too.

Steve

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>You might appreciate this joke, speaking of pigs:
>
<snip>
>"Mister," the farmer says, "a pig like this you don't eat all at
>once."
>
I can only say I've seen different three legged pig jokes... not just
that one.

Here's an alternate (one of many)... Hey maybe this should be a Three
Legged Pig thread! In fact, consider it done.

This joke is Googled, of course...

While visiting his flock in the country, a preacher happens to see a
pig walking around on 3 legs. The preacher stops by the farm and asked
the farmer. My son, why does your pig have only 3 legs?

Well, preacher, says the farmer, this pig is very special to my family
and me. Just 2 months ago, the jack fell while I was working beneath
my tractor. As the tractor was crushing me, I yelled. When he heard
my voice, *that* pig rushed to my rescue, dug me out and pulled me
away from the tractor.

That's commendable says the preacher - but....

Hey, that's not all says the farmer; Last week my house caught fire
and *that* pig pulled my 2 young children to safety. It even received
a medal of valor, from the mayor!

I understand says the preacher, but you still haven't explained why
the pig has a missing leg!

The farmer says back to the preacher: "This pig is very special to us
and we just can't bring ourselves to eat it all at once".



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

OK.. here's a 3 legged chicken joke.



Guy driving down a road at 40 mph looks out his side window and sees a
chicken running along side the car.

Guy speeds up to 50 mph and the chicken matches his speed.

Guy speeds up to 60 mph and the chicken continues to match his speed.

The chicken accelerates and makes a sharp left turn into a farmhouse
driveway. The guy drives into the driveway and sees a farmer sitting in a
rocking chair on the porch of the farmhouse.

Guy says to the farmer "Did you see that chicken race into your yard? He was
running along side my car at 60 mph."

Farmer says "Yep, that's a 3-legged chicken"

Guy incredulous says "A 3-legged chicken??"

Farmer says "Yep, we raise them here"

Guy says "How do they taste?"

Farmer says "Don't know, we can't catch'em"..


sharkman


--
"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>>
>>You might appreciate this joke, speaking of pigs:
>>
> <snip>
>>"Mister," the farmer says, "a pig like this you don't eat all at
>>once."
>>
> I can only say I've seen different three legged pig jokes... not just
> that one.
>
> Here's an alternate (one of many)... Hey maybe this should be a Three
> Legged Pig thread! In fact, consider it done.
>
> This joke is Googled, of course...
>
> While visiting his flock in the country, a preacher happens to see a
> pig walking around on 3 legs. The preacher stops by the farm and asked
> the farmer. My son, why does your pig have only 3 legs?
>
> Well, preacher, says the farmer, this pig is very special to my family
> and me. Just 2 months ago, the jack fell while I was working beneath
> my tractor. As the tractor was crushing me, I yelled. When he heard
> my voice, *that* pig rushed to my rescue, dug me out and pulled me
> away from the tractor.
>
> That's commendable says the preacher - but....
>
> Hey, that's not all says the farmer; Last week my house caught fire
> and *that* pig pulled my 2 young children to safety. It even received
> a medal of valor, from the mayor!
>
> I understand says the preacher, but you still haven't explained why
> the pig has a missing leg!
>
> The farmer says back to the preacher: "This pig is very special to us
> and we just can't bring ourselves to eat it all at once".
>
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
> interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West

" > wrote in message
...
> OK.. here's a 3 legged chicken joke.
>
>
>
> Guy driving down a road at 40 mph looks out his side window and sees a
> chicken running along side the car.
>
> Guy speeds up to 50 mph and the chicken matches his speed.
>
> Guy speeds up to 60 mph and the chicken continues to match his speed.
>
> The chicken accelerates and makes a sharp left turn into a farmhouse
> driveway. The guy drives into the driveway and sees a farmer sitting in a
> rocking chair on the porch of the farmhouse.
>
> Guy says to the farmer "Did you see that chicken race into your yard? He
> was running along side my car at 60 mph."
>
> Farmer says "Yep, that's a 3-legged chicken"
>
> Guy incredulous says "A 3-legged chicken??"
>
> Farmer says "Yep, we raise them here"
>
> Guy says "How do they taste?"
>
> Farmer says "Don't know, we can't catch'em"..
>
>


Cute. The 3-legged pig is my favorite though.

Andy wrote:
> Kate Connally said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Tacos
>>>
>>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>>
>>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
>>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly gobbled
>>> all up.
>>>
>>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>>
>>> Andrés
>> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
>> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
>> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
>> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
>> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
>> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>>
>> Kate
>
>
> Kate,
>
> Are you tryin' to start our first fight??
>
> Who's side are you on?
>
> Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!
>
> ... ?
>
> HRUMPH!!!
>
> Andy

Sorry, Andy, but it's one of my pet peeves.
I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> Andy wrote:
>> Kate Connally said...
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Tacos
>>>>
>>>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>>>
>>>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
>>>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly gobbled
>>>> all up.
>>>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
>>> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
>>> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
>>> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
>>> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
>>> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>>>
>>> Kate
>>
>>
>> Kate,
>>
>> Are you tryin' to start our first fight??
>>
>> Who's side are you on?
>>
>> Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!
>>
>> ... ?
>>
>> HRUMPH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
> Sorry, Andy, but it's one of my pet peeves.
> I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.
>
> Kate
>

You really should get over this little pet peeve. There are Mexicans that
never eat corn tortillas. They consider corn tortillas low class. That
means they make enchilladas and tacos with flour tortillas.

Ms P

Kate Connally said...

> Andy wrote:
>> Kate Connally said...
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Tacos
>>>>
>>>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>>>
>>>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
>>>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly
gobbled
>>>> all up.
>>>>
>>>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
>>> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
>>> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
>>> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
>>> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
>>> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>>>
>>> Kate
>>
>>
>> Kate,
>>
>> Are you tryin' to start our first fight??
>>
>> Who's side are you on?
>>
>> Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!
>>
>> ... ?
>>
>> HRUMPH!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
> Sorry, Andy, but it's one of my pet peeves.
> I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.
>
> Kate


Kate,

I was just being silly. Sorry!

Best,

Andy

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Nor would I have hot
>> dogs for breakfast
>>
>> Jill
>
> Why not? They are just a type of sausage. <g>
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not
> judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama



They simply don't call to me as "breakfast food". I prefer beef hot dogs
when I crave a dog. Pork sausage seasoned with lots of sage for breakfast.
They don't taste at all the same

Jill

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>> > Nor would I have hot
>> > dogs for breakfast
>
>> Why not? They are just a type of sausage. <g>
>
> Stole my line! I worked for a guy from England once. He said he was
> going to throw some sausages on the barbie for the kids, along with the
> hamburgers. I looked at the package, and of course they were hot dogs.
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
>



There is a difference, though. "Breakfast" sausage, be it links or patties,
is typically made from ground pork (at least in my neck of the woods). Hot
dogs can be made from scraps of anything: beef, pork, chicken, turkey or a
combination thereof. The texture is different. The taste is different.
YMMV.

Jill

jmcquown said...

> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> Omelet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>> > Nor would I have hot
>>> > dogs for breakfast
>>
>>> Why not? They are just a type of sausage. <g>
>>
>> Stole my line! I worked for a guy from England once. He said he was
>> going to throw some sausages on the barbie for the kids, along with the
>> hamburgers. I looked at the package, and of course they were hot dogs.
>>
>> --
>> Dan Abel
>> Petaluma, California USA
>>
>
>
>
> There is a difference, though. "Breakfast" sausage, be it links or
> patties, is typically made from ground pork (at least in my neck of the
> woods). Hot dogs can be made from scraps of anything: beef, pork,
> chicken, turkey or a combination thereof. The texture is different.
> The taste is different. YMMV.
>
> Jill


Yep. And preparation. I always pan fry breakfast sausage since it renders
out a good amount of grease for gravy or eggs. I also enjoy sausage patties
more since they just need flipping to brown and cook evenly.

I'd never pan fry hot dogs. I'd steam, bbq-grill, broil or nuke them.

Breakfast sausage needs close contact heat, not hot dogs, imho.

Andy

Andy wrote on Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:20:09 -0500:

> I'd never pan fry hot dogs. I'd steam, bib-grill, broil or
> nuke them.

> Breakfast sausage needs close contact heat, not hot dogs,
> imho.

Hot dogs can be and are cooked by simmering in lager type beers; one of
the few good uses for Budweiser, IMHO!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.Jim.Silverton.at.venison.not

James Silverton said...

> Andy wrote on Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:20:09 -0500:
>
>> I'd never pan fry hot dogs. I'd steam, bib-grill, broil or
>> nuke them.
>
>> Breakfast sausage needs close contact heat, not hot dogs,
>> imho.
>
> Hot dogs can be and are cooked by simmering in lager type beers; one of
> the few good uses for Budweiser, IMHO!


James,

Until you mentioned it, I'd never heard of such a thing but google revealed
a wealth of "hot dogs in beer" recipes.

I'll have to try one.

Thanks,

Andy

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> Nor would I have hot
> >> dogs for breakfast
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Why not? They are just a type of sausage. <g>
> >
>
> They simply don't call to me as "breakfast food". I prefer beef hot dogs
> when I crave a dog. Pork sausage seasoned with lots of sage for breakfast.
> They don't taste at all the same
>
> Jill

I was just yankin' yer chain hon'. <lol>

But I know you knew that! ;-)
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Ms P wrote:
>
> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Kate Connally said...
>>>
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Tacos
>>>>>
>>>>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>>>>
>>>>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
>>>>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly
>>>>> gobbled
>>>>> all up.
>>>>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
>>>> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
>>>> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
>>>> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
>>>> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
>>>> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>>
>>>
>>> Kate,
>>>
>>> Are you tryin' to start our first fight??
>>>
>>> Who's side are you on?
>>>
>>> Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!
>>>
>>> ... ?
>>>
>>> HRUMPH!!!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Sorry, Andy, but it's one of my pet peeves.
>> I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>
> You really should get over this little pet peeve. There are Mexicans
> that never eat corn tortillas. They consider corn tortillas low class.
> That means they make enchilladas and tacos with flour tortillas.
>
> Ms P
>

Living here on the edge of Mexico, I can vouch for that. You have to ask
for corn tortillas in any restaurant. Tacos are always soft and always
on flour tortillas. Even fish tacos, which in Baja California are on
soft corn tortillas, are on flour tortillas here.

I have never seen enchilladas here or in interior Mexico made with corn
tortillas.

The local stores do sell corn tortillas, but it's at a least 4 to 1
ratio of flour tortillas to corn on the shelves.

If you want hard tacos on corn tortillas in this area yo have to go to
Taco Bell. I think New Mexico is more into hard shell tacos on corn
tortillas than we are here because my New Mexican GF goes to Taco Bell
for a hard taco fix.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south-Texas

Janet Wilder > wrote:

>Living here on the edge of Mexico, I can vouch for that. You have to ask
>for corn tortillas in any restaurant. Tacos are always soft and always
>on flour tortillas. Even fish tacos, which in Baja California are on
>soft corn tortillas, are on flour tortillas here.
>
>I have never seen enchilladas here or in interior Mexico made with corn
>tortillas.

>The local stores do sell corn tortillas, but it's at a least 4 to 1
>ratio of flour tortillas to corn on the shelves.

I first encountered "enchiladas" made with flour tortillas
there in south Texas. In Sonora also, almost always tortillas
are flour.

I did not know there was a class distinction, with corn
tortillas being lower class. Interesting.

Steve

On Mar 10, 6:37*am, Andy > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® said...
>
> > Right back atchya.
> > I'm going to serve sliced avocado with bacon, eggs and fried potatoes
> > this morning.
>
> So ya trumped me this time!

How so? I thought your tacos sounded terrific, though it's likely as
not that I'd've found the salsa lacking (I'm picky). a few slices of
avocado and wow. You know I mean it, too. I never compliment anyone
just to be nice.

Also, I ended up not having time to make the potatoes.

Tonight, after work, I fried up a slice of pork butt (shoulder) in
rendered lard, and had it with just salt, accompanied by an excellent
hoppy brew.
>
> BUM!!!
>
> Andy

--Bryan

On Mar 9, 8:07*pm, Andy > wrote:
> > On Mar 9, 6:13*pm, Andy > wrote:
> >> Tacos
>
> >> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>
> >> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
> re
> > d
> >> onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly gobbled all
> u
> > p.
>
> >> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>
> >> Andrés
>
> > I made fish tacos tonight - cut up some kingfish - rolled in cornmeal
> > - fried up - placed in flour tortillas with a mix of red cabbage,
> > purple onion, cherry tomatoes, avocado. *Sauce was a mix of sour
> > cream, lemon juice, cilantro and a bit of jalapeno. *They don't hold
> > together too well tho, so next time, I'll just dump the fish and the
> > rest on a bed of butter lettuce and some tortilla chips.
>
> > By the way, can corn tortillas be frozen and thawed without
> > crumbling? *I had to buy a 2 lb. pkg.
>
> tweeny,
>
> You made your own salsa? Wow! I take the cheap-o jar route.

Did I say salsa anywhere? At any rate, yes I DO make my own - cheaper
and I know what's in it.
>
> Fish tacos are great! Heck actually anytn ing you can shovel into a tortilla
> is great! LOL!!!
>
> But ya almost stumped the band with "By the way, can corn tortillas be
> frozen"
>
> Had me thinking! I've never seen corn tortillas in a can. A few re-reads
> later I was back in peace and harmony. Whew!
>
> You only need heat up as many tortillas as you can predict. They're pretty
> disposable and cheap enough to not worry yourself over, imho.


I hate to throw food away. I put a tad oil on em, sprinkled with
dulse flakes, a tiny amt of chili powder and some garlic powder and
baked til crisp. Not half bad.

> On Mar 9, 8:07*pm, Andy > wrote:

> > Had me thinking! I've never seen corn tortillas in a can. A few re-reads
> > later I was back in peace and harmony. Whew!

When I was a kid, they came in a can. 1950's, Eastern Washington state,
US. Don't remember anything else.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

wrote:
>
> On Mar 9, 8:07 pm, Andy > wrote:
> > > On Mar 9, 6:13 pm, Andy > wrote:
> > >> Tacos
> >
> > >> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
> >
> > >> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce, avocado,
> > re
> > > d
> > >> onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly gobbled all
> > u
> > > p.
> >
> > >> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
> >
> > >> Andrés
> >
> > > I made fish tacos tonight - cut up some kingfish - rolled in cornmeal
> > > - fried up - placed in flour tortillas with a mix of red cabbage,
> > > purple onion, cherry tomatoes, avocado. Sauce was a mix of sour
> > > cream, lemon juice, cilantro and a bit of jalapeno. They don't hold
> > > together too well tho, so next time, I'll just dump the fish and the
> > > rest on a bed of butter lettuce and some tortilla chips.
> >
> > > By the way, can corn tortillas be frozen and thawed without
> > > crumbling? I had to buy a 2 lb. pkg.
> >
> > tweeny,
> >
> > You made your own salsa? Wow! I take the cheap-o jar route.
>
> Did I say salsa anywhere? At any rate, yes I DO make my own - cheaper
> and I know what's in it.
> >
> > Fish tacos are great! Heck actually anytn ing you can shovel into a tortilla
> > is great! LOL!!!
> >
> > But ya almost stumped the band with "By the way, can corn tortillas be
> > frozen"
> >
> > Had me thinking! I've never seen corn tortillas in a can. A few re-reads
> > later I was back in peace and harmony. Whew!
> >
> > You only need heat up as many tortillas as you can predict. They're pretty
> > disposable and cheap enough to not worry yourself over, imho.
>
> I hate to throw food away. I put a tad oil on em, sprinkled with
> dulse flakes, a tiny amt of chili powder and some garlic powder and
> baked til crisp. Not half bad.


Corn tortillas can indeed be frozen. Wrapped airtight. But they keep in
the fridge for a long time. Divide up a large pack so there's no repeat
opening and taking out.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Ms P wrote:
>>
>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Kate Connally said...
>>>>
>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>> Tacos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce,
>>>>>> avocado,
>>>>>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly
>>>>>> gobbled
>>>>>> all up.
>>>>>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
>>>>> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
>>>>> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
>>>>> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
>>>>> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
>>>>> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>>>>>
>>>>> Kate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kate,
>>>>
>>>> Are you tryin' to start our first fight??
>>>>
>>>> Who's side are you on?
>>>>
>>>> Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!
>>>>
>>>> ... ?
>>>>
>>>> HRUMPH!!!
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Sorry, Andy, but it's one of my pet peeves.
>>> I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>
>> You really should get over this little pet peeve. There are Mexicans
>> that never eat corn tortillas. They consider corn tortillas low
>> class. That means they make enchilladas and tacos with flour tortillas.
>>
>> Ms P
>>
>
> Living here on the edge of Mexico, I can vouch for that. You have to ask
> for corn tortillas in any restaurant. Tacos are always soft and always
> on flour tortillas. Even fish tacos, which in Baja California are on
> soft corn tortillas, are on flour tortillas here.
>
> I have never seen enchilladas here or in interior Mexico made with corn
> tortillas.
>
> The local stores do sell corn tortillas, but it's at a least 4 to 1
> ratio of flour tortillas to corn on the shelves.
>
> If you want hard tacos on corn tortillas in this area yo have to go to
> Taco Bell. I think New Mexico is more into hard shell tacos on corn
> tortillas than we are here because my New Mexican GF goes to Taco Bell
> for a hard taco fix.

Well, I've had Mexican food all over the South west and I never
saw tacos, soft or otherwise, made with flour tortillas - it was always
corn. There was a great soft taco place near where I lived in So.
Cal. and the tortillas were corn, never flour. And I never saw
an enchilada made with flour tortillas until I moved back to Pittsburgh.
If you read Diana Kennedy's Mexican cookbooks it's the same thing and
she's considered an authority on Mexican cooking, even by the Mexicans.

I know there are some areas of Mexico that grow a lot of wheat and
use it more, thus they are more likely to flour tortillas as
others do corn tortillas in tacos and enchiladas, etc.
But the majority of Mexico uses corn tortillas, only using flour
tortillas as "bread" to accompany a meal or for burritos which are
supposed to be made with flour tortillas.

You didn't say where you are. Is it Texas? That would explain
a lot. ;-)

Kate


--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Ms P wrote:
>>>
>>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Kate Connally said...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>> Tacos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stewed some chicken breast and flank steak in medium-heat salsa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Put into steaming hot flour tortillas, combined with lettuce,
>>>>>>> avocado,
>>>>>>> red onion, tomato, pan salsa, pepper jack cheese, then promptly
>>>>>>> gobbled
>>>>>>> all up.
>>>>>>> I feel like a pig! Uhm... cow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>> Andy, Andy, Andy. Tacos are made with corn tortillas!
>>>>>> Burritos are made with flour tortillas. Don't know what
>>>>>> the heck you had but it wasn't tacos. :-) Are you sure
>>>>>> you're not from Pittsburgh? Apparently people in Pittsburgh
>>>>>> think you can make taquitos, tacos, and enchiladas with
>>>>>> flour tortillas. Gasp!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kate,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you tryin' to start our first fight??
>>>>>
>>>>> Who's side are you on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh... Pittsburgh, Right! I mean Left!
>>>>>
>>>>> ... ?
>>>>>
>>>>> HRUMPH!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Andy, but it's one of my pet peeves.
>>>> I'll forgive you if you'll forgive me.
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>>>
>>>
>>> You really should get over this little pet peeve. There are Mexicans
>>> that never eat corn tortillas. They consider corn tortillas low
>>> class. That means they make enchilladas and tacos with flour tortillas.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>>
>>
>> Living here on the edge of Mexico, I can vouch for that. You have to
>> ask for corn tortillas in any restaurant. Tacos are always soft and
>> always on flour tortillas. Even fish tacos, which in Baja California
>> are on soft corn tortillas, are on flour tortillas here.
>>
>> I have never seen enchilladas here or in interior Mexico made with
>> corn tortillas.
>>
>> The local stores do sell corn tortillas, but it's at a least 4 to 1
>> ratio of flour tortillas to corn on the shelves.
>>
>> If you want hard tacos on corn tortillas in this area yo have to go to
>> Taco Bell. I think New Mexico is more into hard shell tacos on corn
>> tortillas than we are here because my New Mexican GF goes to Taco Bell
>> for a hard taco fix.
>
> Well, I've had Mexican food all over the South west and I never
> saw tacos, soft or otherwise, made with flour tortillas - it was always
> corn. There was a great soft taco place near where I lived in So.
> Cal. and the tortillas were corn, never flour. And I never saw
> an enchilada made with flour tortillas until I moved back to Pittsburgh.
> If you read Diana Kennedy's Mexican cookbooks it's the same thing and
> she's considered an authority on Mexican cooking, even by the Mexicans.
>
> I know there are some areas of Mexico that grow a lot of wheat and
> use it more, thus they are more likely to flour tortillas as
> others do corn tortillas in tacos and enchiladas, etc.
> But the majority of Mexico uses corn tortillas, only using flour
> tortillas as "bread" to accompany a meal or for burritos which are
> supposed to be made with flour tortillas.
>
> You didn't say where you are. Is it Texas? That would explain
> a lot. ;-)

Texas. Corn tortillas are rare here. I'm in the Lower Rio Grande Valley
in the Harlingen area, but most of "The Valley", the area along US
highway 77/83 between Brownsville and Rio Grande City is the same. Even
on the Mexican side of the border, corn tortillas have to be asked for.

I've spent time in SoCal and NM and they do eat more corn tortillas
there. There are noticeable differences in Border Cuisine. One that I
can immediately think of is bolillos. In the SoCal area bordering Baja
California the bolillos have a crust, very much like a Portuguese roll.
Here in Texas, they are soft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolillo

BTW nome of the local experts on Mexican cooking I know have Anglo names
like Diana Kennedy. <g>


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south-Texas

Kate Connally wrote:
> Well, I've had Mexican food all over the South west and I never
> saw tacos, soft or otherwise, made with flour tortillas - it was always
> corn. There was a great soft taco place near where I lived in So.
> Cal. and the tortillas were corn, never flour. And I never saw
> an enchilada made with flour tortillas until I moved back to Pittsburgh.
> If you read Diana Kennedy's Mexican cookbooks it's the same thing and
> she's considered an authority on Mexican cooking, even by the Mexicans.
>
> I know there are some areas of Mexico that grow a lot of wheat and
> use it more, thus they are more likely to flour tortillas as
> others do corn tortillas in tacos and enchiladas, etc.
> But the majority of Mexico uses corn tortillas, only using flour
> tortillas as "bread" to accompany a meal or for burritos which are
> supposed to be made with flour tortillas.
>
> You didn't say where you are. Is it Texas? That would explain
> a lot. ;-)
>
> Kate

In the Houston area, we were served corn tortillas, including soft
tacos, but it might not be like that all over Texas. We grew up eating
Mexican food and it was always corn tortillas. We used flour tortillas,
like you said, as bread. I am sure they serve flour tortillas in the
Tex-Mex chain restaurants.


Becca