On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:36:08 -0400, "DonEagles" >
wrote:

>
>"Jeff Edwards" > wrote in message
. 45.20...
>> Andy <q> wrote in :
>> > I enjoy her show!
>> >
>> > Sure, all TV chefs have to act and talk to the camera. Paula can ham
>> > it up as good as the next TV chef.
>> >
>> > My all-time favorite TV chef was Justin Wilson. He was so deadpan
>> > funny. R.I.P.
>> >
>> > I GAR-ON-TEE!
>>
>> I always got the sense that Justin was relatively genuine. Granted, I'm
>> sure he was putting some of it on, but I could buy that he was an old
>> cajun coot from the swamp for the most part. I think the problem a lot
>> of people have with Paula is that something about it just doesn't seem
>> real. Maybe she's being very true to herself, but it comes across as
>> over-the-top in a manufactured way.
>>
>> -Jeff
>
>I think that she is a hard-working woman who struggled to get where she is
>today but never allowed the money and fame to change her character. If you
>watched her Chefology, she really is inspirational...and I love her cooking
>but I guess I am biased being from N.C....and I do like Texas-Pete!
>
Those Chefographys were really good. I even liked Ina after I saw her
profile, and I'm not a big fan of hers. I'm from Oregon, so I don't
think the fan bases are all that regional. I can't stand the ones
from California, except Giada. I can tolerate the down home, country
people much more than the pretentious, "I'm rich and you're not"
preppy personalities anyday.

"Default User" > wrote in news:4mu53vF7ubpgU1
@individual.net:
> I call BS on this. I never saw him be anything but appreciative and
> respectful in his travelogue shows.

Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and actions
differently. I'm biased, as I think he's an egotistical and condescending
ass.

-Jeff

wrote:

> Personally, outside the television world, I'd much rather spend time
> with Paula than Bobby, Ina, or Emeril. Not liking someone just
> because they have an accent is like disliking someone because you
> don't like their name. It's a grade school mentality, imo.

Ohhhhhh no... the accent is just the grating bit on top of what she says
that is annoying. Her food doesn't impress me terribly either.. some
okay, some not. Her sons are just banking on her fame to make a living,
which is also kinda annoying.
Goomba

Goomba38 > wrote in news:iP-
:

> Ohhhhhh no... the accent is just the grating bit on top of what she says
> that is annoying. Her food doesn't impress me terribly either.. some
> okay, some not. Her sons are just banking on her fame to make a living,
> which is also kinda annoying.
> Goomba

The first time I tuned into her sons' show, I remember thinking "who are
these guys and why would FTV give them a show". When I figured out who
they were, it made more sense, but I did not really know until then that
Paula had enough popularity/pull to warrant that.

-Jeff

Barging in...I'm a lurker today..I will take any of the so called cooks
except that know it all ( and YOU know nothing) Attitude of EMERIL !!!!
I do not like Paula Deen either...Too much of a good thing is TOO MUCH
!


DANCE As Though No One is Watching !!
Live The Moment !!!!

"Jeff Edwards" > wrote in message
5.20...
> "Default User" > wrote in news:4mu53vF7ubpgU1
> @individual.net:
> > I call BS on this. I never saw him be anything but appreciative and
> > respectful in his travelogue shows.
>
> Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and actions
> differently. I'm biased, as I think he's an egotistical and condescending
> ass.
>
> -Jeff

=
Who do you like? The ones I don't like are that Alton guy, (Alton Brown?)
can't look at him at all and Rachel Ray. I would look at her more if she
didn't shout at me all the time.

Zywicki wrote:
> >
> > I have never seen Flay bbq, I have seen him grill a bunch. He does seem to be
> > a little lost out of his own chosen style of cooking and a bit unidimensional.
> >
> > JJ
>
> I don't think he really has any intention of winning. That would be
> terrible manners. Like that Pizza guy, for example. He was big fish
> in his pond. If Bobby came in and chopped him up, what would that do
> to the guy? That would be terrible TV.
>
> Greg Zywicki

Even though the title of that show is "Throwdown," I believe in the
introduction of each program, he says he's going to learn how to do the
specialty the "best" way and then have a cook-off. I think Greg is
right - he doesn't have a high expectation of winning.

In addition, in most cases so far, the judge is perfectly aware of
whose dish is whose...there wouldn't be any reason for a local
dignitary NOT to choose the local expert as the winner.

N.

"pfoley" > wrote in
nk.net:
>
> "Jeff Edwards" > wrote in message
> 5.20...
>> "Default User" > wrote in news:4mu53vF7ubpgU1
>> @individual.net:
>> > I call BS on this. I never saw him be anything but appreciative and
>> > respectful in his travelogue shows.
>>
>> Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and actions
>> differently. I'm biased, as I think he's an egotistical and
>> condescending ass.
>>
>> -Jeff
>
> =
> Who do you like? The ones I don't like are that Alton guy, (Alton
> Brown?) can't look at him at all and Rachel Ray. I would look at her
> more if she didn't shout at me all the time.

I actually like Alton Brown. Not his mannerisms as such, as he's a
little odd, but the nerd in me likes the science of cooking he throws
out on Good Eats. I used to enjoy Jamie Oliver's show because he went
for simplicity and made some things that have turned out well for me. I
can even stomach Emeril every once in a while if he's doing a theme of
something I enjoy. I'm with you on Rachel (sp) - she's great until she
starts speaking. She seems to be the new darling of the Network, so
we're sure to see more of her.

In terms of cooking shows outside FTV, I used to watch the Frugal
Gourmet on PBS, along with Martin Yan and Justin Wilson. I also like
Rick Bayless and watch him when I can, and Stephen Pyles had a good PBS
show for a while. I also enjoyed Top Chef because I thought there were
some really creative ideas on there. And, sadly, I admit I watched
Hell's Kitchen for the train-wreck factor.

-Jeff

"Nancy2" > wrote in
oups.com:
> Even though the title of that show is "Throwdown," I believe in the
> introduction of each program, he says he's going to learn how to do
> the specialty the "best" way and then have a cook-off. I think Greg
> is right - he doesn't have a high expectation of winning.
>
> In addition, in most cases so far, the judge is perfectly aware of
> whose dish is whose...there wouldn't be any reason for a local
> dignitary NOT to choose the local expert as the winner.

You're probably right. Still, I choose to isolate all that and just focus
on the part where Bobby Flay loses, because it makes me smile in a sort of
sadistic way.

> Even though the title of that show is "Throwdown," I believe in the
> introduction of each program, he says he's going to learn how to do the
> specialty the "best" way and then have a cook-off. I think Greg is
> right - he doesn't have a high expectation of winning.
>
> In addition, in most cases so far, the judge is perfectly aware of
> whose dish is whose...there wouldn't be any reason for a local
> dignitary NOT to choose the local expert as the winner.
>
> N.

It is so obvious to me that this is pre arranged. He never wins. But just
loses by a hair. "Oh" the judge will say, "these are both soooo good (then
long pause) but this one (Not Bobby's) is just a little better....

Please! that's what is silly about the show.

Larry T

"denise~*" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> LT wrote:
>> > Y'all is a real, frequently used word down south. Paula's accent is
>> > what
>> > grates on my nerves, and I LIVE here in the south!
>> > The Barefoot Contessa just strikes me as a huge phony with her
>> > "rent-a-friends" parties. Why doesn't she just say "I'm going to show
>> > you
>> > how to make such-and-such today instead of pretending every show is a
>> > party prep??? I like her recipes, just not the faux lifestyle she
>> > portrays
>> > and that fake laugh of hers. Great house, kitchen and hair though
>>
>> I get the same feeling about Ina Garten. She's a women of heft (snicker)
>> and
>> I always get a kick out of how her face lights up when she starts making
>> dessert.
>
> Um, The Barefoot Contessa *is* Ina Garten


Yes she is... I was just using her real name, rather than the show
title/nick name...

Larry T

Well, ol' Paula's new show trailers (PARTIES WITH PAULA) have her
gushing over a a bust of her sculpted in butter.

Hoowee. When is Giada going to break out the designer lard they make in
Bella Italia?

T.

On 14 Sep 2006 20:12:02 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>Larry wrote (I undid cross-posting):
>
>> As for Paula Deen, she would be a lot easier to take if you turned off the
>> sound, and turned on live captions.
>> But her cooking's not bad.
>
>I'm afraid I have to disagree with you; I find her cooking little better
>than Sandra Lee's. I'd also modify your first sentence as follows:
>
>"As for Paula Deen, she would be a lot easier to take if you turned off the
>television."
>
>Bob
>
>

I agree with you Bob. And her cooking is not the type of southern
cooking I grew up with in Viriginia.

Granted, they are to very different southern states, but I tend to
lean towards the southern cooking of that Grande Dame of Southern
Cooking, Edna Lewis. She was a Virginian too... And her cooking
stands the test of time, and I not sure Paula's does.

Paula seems too gimmicky to me..and she tends to use more convenience
foods than I like. Edna Lewis's food was not incredibly high fat, or
full of convenience foods....just very good southern cooking that
oftentimes had a touch of elegance to it.

Get the book she co-authored with a Georgian chef, Scott Peacock: The
Gift of Southern Cooking. It will open your eyes.

Christine

Goomba38 said...

> Ohhhhhh no... the accent is just the grating bit on top of what she says
> that is annoying. Her food doesn't impress me terribly either.. some
> okay, some not. Her sons are just banking on her fame to make a living,
> which is also kinda annoying.
> Goomba


Be thankful that Paula doesn't let her husband Michael do a "how to boil
water" episode by himself. Each half hour will end with "To be
continued..." for a couple days.

Andy

pfoley said...

> Who do you like? The ones I don't like are that Alton guy, (Alton
> Brown?) can't look at him at all and Rachel Ray. I would look at her
> more if she didn't shout at me all the time.


Rachael Ray breathes through an airtube up her ass, so she doesn't have to
stop talking to inhale.

Andy's evil twin

Jeff Edwards wrote:

> "Default User" > wrote in news:4mu53vF7ubpgU1
> @individual.net:
> > I call BS on this. I never saw him be anything but appreciative and
> > respectful in his travelogue shows.
>
> Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and actions
> differently.

You should be able to provide concrete examples then.

> I'm biased, as I think he's an egotistical and
> condescending ass.

No! Really?




Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Jeff Edwards" > wrote in message
5.20...
> "pfoley" > wrote in
> nk.net:
> >
> > "Jeff Edwards" > wrote in message
> > 5.20...
> >> "Default User" > wrote in news:4mu53vF7ubpgU1
> >> @individual.net:
> >> > I call BS on this. I never saw him be anything but appreciative and
> >> > respectful in his travelogue shows.
> >>
> >> Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and actions
> >> differently. I'm biased, as I think he's an egotistical and
> >> condescending ass.
> >>
> >> -Jeff
> >
> > =
> > Who do you like? The ones I don't like are that Alton guy, (Alton
> > Brown?) can't look at him at all and Rachel Ray. I would look at her
> > more if she didn't shout at me all the time.
>
> I actually like Alton Brown. Not his mannerisms as such, as he's a
> little odd, but the nerd in me likes the science of cooking he throws
> out on Good Eats. I used to enjoy Jamie Oliver's show because he went
> for simplicity and made some things that have turned out well for me. I
> can even stomach Emeril every once in a while if he's doing a theme of
> something I enjoy. I'm with you on Rachel (sp) - she's great until she
> starts speaking. She seems to be the new darling of the Network, so
> we're sure to see more of her.
>
> In terms of cooking shows outside FTV, I used to watch the Frugal
> Gourmet on PBS, along with Martin Yan and Justin Wilson. I also like
> Rick Bayless and watch him when I can, and Stephen Pyles had a good PBS
> show for a while. I also enjoyed Top Chef because I thought there were
> some really creative ideas on there. And, sadly, I admit I watched
> Hell's Kitchen for the train-wreck factor.
>
> -Jeff

Oh, I couldn't handle Hell's Kitchen; another show of someone screaming all
the time. Tyler is good.

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:58:55 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> wrote:


>
>If I had to choose... seriously choose which one of them I would spend a
>day with. I would go with either Tyler Florence or Ming Tsai. Ming Tsai
>has not been on the channel for awhile so it would have to be Tyler. Oh
>mi! A day in Manhattan with Tyler ...
>
>Michael


If I really got to choose...I'd change the channel over to PBS and
spend the day with Jacques Pepin.

Boron

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:57:35 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> wrote:


roups.com:
>
>>
>> Jeff Edwards wrote:
>>> "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" > wrote in
>>> 6.121:
>>> > Speaking of Bobby Flay...
>>>
>>> *chuckle* I actually caught the last couple of minutes of his newest
>>> show the other day. It was some guy who looked to be a grizzled old
>>> pitmaster from back in the woods beating Bobby at a bbq contest. I
>>> love that. If he continues to travel around the country and have
>>> regular folks kick his butt at various cuisines, I might actually
>>> watch. I couldn't take the previous series where he would travel and
>>> watch people make dishes they have made for 30 years and condescend
>>> to them about their techniques.
>>
>> I've seen two of those episodes (pizza and barbecue), and Flay lost
>> each time. That was pretty cool.
>
>Well, watching that southern lady beat his butt at breakfast made my day
>too. She did down home and old fashioned breakfast that won hands down
>over his foo foo breakfast.
>
>Michael
>
>--
>" All I've ever wanted was an honest week's pay for an honest day's work."
>
>-Steve Martin
>

Ive eaten at Lynn's Paradise Cafe many a time when I was going to grad
school in Louisville. Its the best in my book. And since she had a
judge from the Louisville area, there was no way he was going to pic
Bobby. And the pics on the show didnt even come close to what it
looks like inside.

Patti

Rick Bayless and watch him when I can, and Stephen Pyles had a good PBS

> show for a while. I also enjoyed Top Chef because I thought there were
> some really creative ideas on there. And, sadly, I admit I watched
> Hell's Kitchen for the train-wreck factor.
>
> -Jeff

Top Chef has a new season starting soon - check out FTV or watch for
the commercials. Some of the competitors look to be real characters -
I suppose it's too much to hope for that they have ditched that
Denise-Richards-clone hostess, whatever her name is.

N.

"Default User" > wrote in news:4mvvhpF87es1U1
@individual.net:

> Jeff Edwards wrote:
>> Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and actions
>> differently.
>
> You should be able to provide concrete examples then.
>

Whatever. I watched it twice, thought he was a condescending ass and quit
watching. Sorry I didn't archive to DVD so I could pull a transcript to
argue about it on usenet.

-Jeff

Boron Elgar > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:58:55 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>If I had to choose... seriously choose which one of them I would spend
>>a day with. I would go with either Tyler Florence or Ming Tsai. Ming
>>Tsai has not been on the channel for awhile so it would have to be
>>Tyler. Oh mi! A day in Manhattan with Tyler ...
>>
>>Michael
>
>
> If I really got to choose...I'd change the channel over to PBS and
> spend the day with Jacques Pepin.
>
> Boron
>

Is he the one who would bring his daughter on the show? If so, I always
thought he was really good, but his daughter added absolutely nothing.
It was almost comical to watch her surprised reactions to him during the
most basic of kitchen tasks.

-Jeff

LT wrote:

>
> > Even though the title of that show is "Throwdown," I believe in the
> > introduction of each program, he says he's going to learn how to do
> > the specialty the "best" way and then have a cook-off. I think
> > Greg is right - he doesn't have a high expectation of winning.
> >
> > In addition, in most cases so far, the judge is perfectly aware of
> > whose dish is whose...there wouldn't be any reason for a local
> > dignitary NOT to choose the local expert as the winner.
> >
> > N.
>
> It is so obvious to me that this is pre arranged. He never wins. But
> just loses by a hair. "Oh" the judge will say, "these are both soooo
> good (then long pause) but this one (Not Bobby's) is just a little
> better....

He's won at least two, Chowder and Hamburgers. Of the ones I've seen,
he lost Jambalaya, Jerk Chicken, Pizza, and Wedding Cake.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Nancy2" > wrote in news:1158337135.887022.214010
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Top Chef has a new season starting soon - check out FTV or watch for
> the commercials. Some of the competitors look to be real characters -
> I suppose it's too much to hope for that they have ditched that
> Denise-Richards-clone hostess, whatever her name is.

I noticed something about that last week. Hopefully they chose some
people who can actually cook and are creative rather than just people
who would be good reality show fuel. The first season had both, which
was interesting.

In the cooking reality-show thing, I like Top Chef the best because
(unless I'm just totally getting fooled), it seems the most 'real'.
That is, in the challenges they get only the resources allowed and the
time allotted without prep. I love Iron Chef, but word is they had an
idea of a few things the theme might be beforehand and could prepare,
plus they have sous chefs everywhere. Hell's Kitchen had a lot of the
unexpected thrown at them too, but it focused too much for my taste on
running the kitchen than the actual food.

-Jeff

>>
>> It is so obvious to me that this is pre arranged. He never wins. But
>> just loses by a hair. "Oh" the judge will say, "these are both soooo
>> good (then long pause) but this one (Not Bobby's) is just a little
>> better....
>
> He's won at least two, Chowder and Hamburgers. Of the ones I've seen,
> he lost Jambalaya, Jerk Chicken, Pizza, and Wedding Cake.
>
>
>
> Brian

I stand corrected then... I've only seen the ones he's lost... Still looks
put on though.

Larry T

On 15 Sep 2006 17:26:54 GMT, Jeff Edwards
> wrote:

>Boron Elgar > wrote in
:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:58:55 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>If I had to choose... seriously choose which one of them I would spend
>>>a day with. I would go with either Tyler Florence or Ming Tsai. Ming
>>>Tsai has not been on the channel for awhile so it would have to be
>>>Tyler. Oh mi! A day in Manhattan with Tyler ...
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>
>> If I really got to choose...I'd change the channel over to PBS and
>> spend the day with Jacques Pepin.
>>
>> Boron
>>
>
>Is he the one who would bring his daughter on the show? If so, I always
>thought he was really good, but his daughter added absolutely nothing.
>It was almost comical to watch her surprised reactions to him during the
>most basic of kitchen tasks.
>
>-Jeff

Yes, he did one or two years with his daughter. C'est la vie, as they
say...his shows were better without her, though I did not find her
offensive.

Pepin himself has had several shows alone, and even a lengthy series
with Julia Child that was, IMHO, the acme of such shows...the wonder
of the two of them, each a complement to the other, was truly
wonderful.

Boron

Nancy2 wrote:
> Rick Bayless and watch him when I can, and Stephen Pyles had a good PBS
>
> > show for a while. I also enjoyed Top Chef because I thought there were
> > some really creative ideas on there. And, sadly, I admit I watched
> > Hell's Kitchen for the train-wreck factor.
> >
> > -Jeff
>
> Top Chef has a new season starting soon - check out FTV or watch for
> the commercials. Some of the competitors look to be real characters -
> I suppose it's too much to hope for that they have ditched that
> Denise-Richards-clone hostess, whatever her name is.
>
> N.

Have they picked out who's going to be the cruel ice-queen ball buster?
Or the lovable but inept *** fella? Cause based on every other
Reality show I've seen on Bravo, both are stock characters.

Greg Zywicki

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
6.121...
>
> One cook (I use the word *cook* with amusement, I'm sure most of us
> agree
> doesn't "cut the mustard" is Sandra Lee. I use her episodes for
> amusement.

Well, most of *us*, sure...but non-foodies (at least the ones I know--e.g.,
my mom, stepmom, and SIL) seem to love her and her "recipes."

My mom also likes Rachael Ray, mainly because she's from the same area that
my mom's from (upstate NY, near Lake George).

Mary

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> Actually I feel the same way. I think, with me, it all boils down to the
> *jock* syndrome. I've always been athletic...

"...I've never believed the letters in your magazine until last week...

> ...I was always more interested in equestrian ...

Bad pornography writes itself.

Greg Zywicki

>>>
>>>
>>> If I really got to choose...I'd change the channel over to PBS and
>>> spend the day with Jacques Pepin.
>>>
>>> Boron
>>>
>>
>>Is he the one who would bring his daughter on the show? If so, I always
>>thought he was really good, but his daughter added absolutely nothing.
>>It was almost comical to watch her surprised reactions to him during the
>>most basic of kitchen tasks.
>>
>>-Jeff
>
> Yes, he did one or two years with his daughter. C'est la vie, as they
> say...his shows were better without her, though I did not find her
> offensive.
>
> Pepin himself has had several shows alone, and even a lengthy series
> with Julia Child that was, IMHO, the acme of such shows...the wonder
> of the two of them, each a complement to the other, was truly
> wonderful.
>
> Boron

Two of the most talented chefs of all time. And of course Julia pretty much
"invented" cooking shows. Or at least shows that anyone watched. Every now
and then PBS replays some of the very early ones... What a kick to watch her
in action when she was younger.

Larry T

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> If I had to choose... seriously choose which one of them I would spend a
> day with. I would go with either Tyler Florence or Ming Tsai. Ming Tsai
> has not been on the channel for awhile so it would have to be Tyler. Oh
> mi! A day in Manhattan with Tyler ...

Back off buddy.. he's mine!! And I want Ming for an after dinner sweet...
Greedy Goomba

Christine Dabney wrote:

> Get the book she co-authored with a Georgian chef, Scott Peacock: The
> Gift of Southern Cooking. It will open your eyes.
>
> Christine

Regarding Edna Lewis and Scott Peacock-Was that not the most wonderful
friendship?! I envy them both.
I can only dream of having lived as she did as a child, where the food
sounded incredibly elegant, even in its simplicity.

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:43:12 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> Get the book she co-authored with a Georgian chef, Scott Peacock: The
>> Gift of Southern Cooking. It will open your eyes.
>>
>> Christine
>
>Regarding Edna Lewis and Scott Peacock-Was that not the most wonderful
>friendship?! I envy them both.
>I can only dream of having lived as she did as a child, where the food
>sounded incredibly elegant, even in its simplicity.

Oh, I know. I am unpacking all my cookbooks now, and I am very eager
to unpack her classic The Taste of Country Cooking. Also, the book
she wrote a few years later, called In Pursuit of Flavor. Such
wonderful, simple, classic southern food in all it's glory.

Not for nothing was she considered the Grande Doyenne of Southern
cooking.

Christine

Jeff Edwards wrote:

> "Default User" > wrote in news:4mvvhpF87es1U1
> @individual.net:
>
> > Jeff Edwards wrote:
> >> Call BS all you want. Clearly we interpreted his words and
> actions >> differently.
> >
> > You should be able to provide concrete examples then.
> >
>
> Whatever. I watched it twice, thought he was a condescending ass and
> quit watching. Sorry I didn't archive to DVD so I could pull a
> transcript to argue about it on usenet.

I have no objection to you saying, "I don't like this guy." There are
plenty of people on TV that I don't like. However, I don't think you
can come with actual examples of him doing the things you claimed.
That's all I'm saying.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Default User" > wrote in news:4n0j4uF841n3U1
@individual.net:
>> Whatever. I watched it twice, thought he was a condescending ass and
>> quit watching. Sorry I didn't archive to DVD so I could pull a
>> transcript to argue about it on usenet.
>
> I have no objection to you saying, "I don't like this guy." There are
> plenty of people on TV that I don't like. However, I don't think you
> can come with actual examples of him doing the things you claimed.
> That's all I'm saying.

Fair enough. Let me rephrase, then:

I don't like Bobby Flay. In watching his travelogue shows briefly (as well
as his studio show before that years ago, as well as Iron Chef, etc) I
believe he comes across as arrogant and condescending. I cannot cite
specifics, because I have not committed them to memory, but that is my
general impression.

Boron Elgar wrote:

> On 15 Sep 2006 17:26:54 GMT, Jeff Edwards
> > wrote:
>
> >Boron Elgar > wrote in
> > :

> >> If I really got to choose...I'd change the channel over to PBS and
> >> spend the day with Jacques Pepin.

> > Is he the one who would bring his daughter on the show?

> Yes, he did one or two years with his daughter. C'est la vie, as they
> say...his shows were better without her, though I did not find her
> offensive.
>
> Pepin himself has had several shows alone, and even a lengthy series
> with Julia Child that was, IMHO, the acme of such shows...the wonder
> of the two of them, each a complement to the other, was truly
> wonderful.

The most recent series that he had on PBS was "Fast Food My Way", which
was quite enjoyable. According to Wikipedia, there were two series with
Claudine, in 1996 and 1998.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_P%C3%A9pin>




Brian
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Nancy2 wrote:


> Top Chef has a new season starting soon - check out FTV or watch for
> the commercials. Some of the competitors look to be real characters -
> I suppose it's too much to hope for that they have ditched that
> Denise-Richards-clone hostess, whatever her name is.

Gail Simmons? I liked her.



Brian
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Jeff Edwards wrote:


> Fair enough. Let me rephrase, then:
>
> I don't like Bobby Flay. In watching his travelogue shows briefly
> (as well as his studio show before that years ago, as well as Iron
> Chef, etc) I believe he comes across as arrogant and condescending.
> I cannot cite specifics, because I have not committed them to memory,
> but that is my general impression.

Sounds good. I like Bobby ok in some stuff, I thought Boy Meets Grill
was very good show.



Brian

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Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan > wrote:
>> oh no.. I've said it before.. I like Bobby Flay's badness
>
>IMO he's not bad, he's a big obnoxious bore. I'm guessing he was the bully
>in school

I'm guessing he was beat up frequently in public school
and only became the bully in culinary school.

--Blair

Oh pshaw, on Fri 15 Sep 2006 08:01:46p, Blair P. Houghton meant to say...

> Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan > wrote:
>>> oh no.. I've said it before.. I like Bobby Flay's badness
>>
>>IMO he's not bad, he's a big obnoxious bore. I'm guessing he was the
>>bully in school
>
> I'm guessing he was beat up frequently in public school
> and only became the bully in culinary school.

He didn't have a cleaver at his disposal in public shcool.

Personally, I think he's an ass.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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