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Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals, but
can still be done in the microwave?

Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a microwave,
but that general direction of food preparation.

The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
diabetic recipes.

Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.

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: Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals, but
: can still be done in the microwave?

: Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a microwave,
: but that general direction of food preparation.

: The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
: diabetic recipes.

: Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.

Most green vegetables can be simply prepared in the microwave. I also do
a fish dish with plain(not breaded) fish sooked with onins salt and
pepper, slices fo green pepper adnsome tomatoes either ripe fresh or
canned. this can also be seasoned with some hot peppers or such or you
can use a salsa as the main cooking sauce. time depeds on the thickness
of the fish.

jut something off the to of my head.

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> Ian Field > wrote:
> : Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
> but
> : can still be done in the microwave?
>
> : Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
> microwave,
> : but that general direction of food preparation.
>
> : The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
> : diabetic recipes.
>
> : Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>
> Most green vegetables can be simply prepared in the microwave. I also do
> a fish dish with plain(not breaded) fish sooked with onins salt and
> pepper, slices fo green pepper adnsome tomatoes either ripe fresh or
> canned. this can also be seasoned with some hot peppers or such or you
> can use a salsa as the main cooking sauce. time depeds on the thickness
> of the fish.
>
> jut something off the to of my head.


Just had another prod at the BBC food/recipes website.

This time I searched "low carb" - got some hits, but there are only 8
recipes listed.

Its a step in the right direction, but needs more people to show an
interest.

The BBC websites aren't just for Brits - anyone can look in.

The contact link is at the bottom of the page.

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On 10/08/2014 11:27 AM, Ian Field wrote:
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>
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ian Field > wrote:
>> : Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready
>> meals, but
>> : can still be done in the microwave?
>>
>> : Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>> microwave,
>> : but that general direction of food preparation.
>>
>> : The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>> : diabetic recipes.
>>
>> : Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>>
>> Most green vegetables can be simply prepared in the microwave. I also do
>> a fish dish with plain(not breaded) fish sooked with onins salt and
>> pepper, slices fo green pepper adnsome tomatoes either ripe fresh or
>> canned. this can also be seasoned with some hot peppers or such or you
>> can use a salsa as the main cooking sauce. time depeds on the thickness
>> of the fish.
>>
>> jut something off the to of my head.

>
> Just had another prod at the BBC food/recipes website.
>
> This time I searched "low carb" - got some hits, but there are only 8
> recipes listed.
>
> Its a step in the right direction, but needs more people to show an
> interest.
>
> The BBC websites aren't just for Brits - anyone can look in.
>
> The contact link is at the bottom of the page.


Hi Ian,

Here is a Primal microwave chicken recipe and it sounds good:
http://www.paleoeffect.com/recipes/p...owave-chicken/


Here is a microwave chocolate chip cookie dough recipe (be
careful to limit the banana or leave it out):
http://www.thefreckledfoodie.com/pal...-cookie-dough/


Those two might be a bit on the workie side, you can always purchase
a precooked Bratwurt or other sausage (Prairie Grove Farms in the States
makes great natural uncured precooked sausage), chop it up and add
it to some frozen organic broccoli, with butter, onion powder, salt, and
you favorite cheese. Only takes a few minutes and it is a real treat.
You can vary the vegetable(s), the meat (precook your own,
or buy it that way), etc..

Be ware of burning broccoli, the odor is something to behold.
Not that I know anything about that! :-)

When you get advanced that this, you will even find yourself
buying a single fresh vegi on your way home from work to
add to the pot/dish/microwave.

Although I have heard rumors of someone trying to do Paleo/Primal
frozen dinners out here, there is really nothing in a purchased
frozen dinner that is diabetic friendly. But, you can easily
work around it.

Do you have access to fresh off the dock fish where you
live. Fresh off the dock to the pan is a real treat,
but does require some preparation. If you can get
it filleted, you can probably go straight to the
microwave with the addition of a little seasoning
(Wendy's seems nice.)

So basically, a little more work is required, but
not that much more. Plus, you get the warn fuzzies
"I cooked that!". And, I got to tell you, fresh
cooked anything tastes so much better than T.V.
dinners. (I make my own Ratatouille. It is so good.
And it freezes well. Store bought Ratatouille is
so bad, I am sure there is something in the Geneva
Convention about it.)

Also, very important, this is a primal/paleo thing,
but it applies to all of us healing from Diabetes,
make sure you eat/share your food with someone
you love/tribe/friends/family. It is part of the
healing process.

Have a customer whose late husband was from Scotland. He
loved a sausage called a "Banger". She described it as
a texture only flavorless meat. Made me laugh. She likes
Bratwurst. Was she exaggerating? (She also hates lamb,
which made her trips to the homeland to visit relatives
a bit of a chore.)

-T

Oh, since I have been ragging on Metformin, it also
causes cognitive decline and memory loss. And, it,
it ... Crikey. I forget again. I hate when that
happens. Why am I writing you? Are you still in the
Navy? :-)
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> warn fuzzies


"Warm" fuzzies, stink' typoes



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On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
> but can still be done in the microwave?
>
> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>
> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
> diabetic recipes.
>
> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.



Hi Ian,

The following would help in answering your question

What kind of Diabetes do you have?

How have you decided to deal with it?
--- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
--- low carb and drug free

-T
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> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>
>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>
>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>> diabetic recipes.
>>
>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.

>
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> The following would help in answering your question
>
> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>
> How have you decided to deal with it?
> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
> --- low carb and drug free


The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories can
line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.

Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat of
insulin never too far away!

Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.

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On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>
>
> "Todd" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>
>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>
>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>
>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.

>>
>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> The following would help in answering your question
>>
>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>
>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>> --- low carb and drug free

>
> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>
> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
> of insulin never too far away!
>
> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.


Hi Ian,

Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
(sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.


Consider your Tori remark may be the metformin speaking. You
may also just think that. As I told myself when I was taking
Metformin, even paranoid have enemies.

Anyway, if your choice is to do the drug and high carb route,
then I really don't have any advice. Just pick out nice shoes
for your future prosthetic feet and a good dialysis center
while you can still see.

If you decide to go the low carb, drug free route, here is
a good web site to start with:

http://www.diabetes-warrior.net/

As for the way I do it (I am drug free for a year now), I
remind myself of my Grandmother. I cook up a whole bunch
of stuff most of the day on Sunday. Then I refrig or
freeze most of it. Some times I blanch and deep freeze
whatever abundance I have from the garden. Then during
the week, I microwave what I cooked on Sunday. It is our
form of fast food.

I am also blessed by a trophy wife that eats what I
eat so I am never tempted to go back to anything
high carb (red beans, for example) that injured me in
the first place. remember that T2 is an injury, not
a disease.

Other primals and paleos (I am primal) have discussed
the fast food issue. They usually wind up cooking me.
Some will buy a rotisserie chick on the way home. I
don't, because they are so rancid, they make me want
to hurl.

-T

Congrads on England staying in one piece.




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"Todd" > wrote in message
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> On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Todd" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>
>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> The following would help in answering your question
>>>
>>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>>
>>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>>> --- low carb and drug free

>>
>> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
>> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>>
>> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
>> of insulin never too far away!
>>
>> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
>> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
>> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.

>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
> (sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
> it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
> on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
> drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
> my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
> to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.
>
>
> Consider your Tori remark may be the metformin speaking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU&app=desktop

Hopefully; more than half the electorate are on Metformin.

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On 10/01/2014 12:25 PM, Ian Field wrote:
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>
> "Todd" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Todd" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>>
>>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked
>>>>> there, no
>>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> The following would help in answering your question
>>>>
>>>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>>>
>>>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>>>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>>>> --- low carb and drug free
>>>
>>> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
>>> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>>>
>>> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
>>> of insulin never too far away!
>>>
>>> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
>>> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
>>> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.

>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
>> (sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
>> it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
>> on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
>> drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
>> my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
>> to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.
>>
>>
>> Consider your Tori remark may be the metformin speaking.

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU&app=desktop
>
> Hopefully; more than half the electorate are on Metformin.


Hi Ian,

We call them "Met Heads". They can be a real challenge
to be around. I was. If my British, American French
blue language translator is correct, I do believe you
would call Met Heads "Arse Holes".

Didn't watch the video. I can only guess what is on it.
Why don't you find a Tory friend, ask him what he really thinks,
listen to what he says, then repeat it back to him and ask
him if you have it correct. Don't stop until he agree
with you as to what he thinks.

You will really be surprised at times. It is also wonderful
to understand what others think, even when you disagree with
them. It also helps to know what your are actually disagreeing
with.

Everyone who likes politics should do this. Quite often one
side tell us what the other side thinks and we really have
no clue what they actually think. And it doesn't help if
you are a Met Head.

One out of eleven Americans now have T2. More keep getting
injured as there seems to be no end to the low nutrition,
high carbohydrate (not found in nature or our historical past)
food being pushed on the public, both by industry and
by government. There is no such thing as a "health carb",
only more or less. Brown carbs are seen the same way as white
cards by your body. They are all a bag of sugar.

When I got off of Metformin and the "dark curtain" lifted, I
could not stop talking to anyone around me about anything
that come to mind. I had to do a lot of apologizing for
that too. Eventually I learned to control my mouth and
start listen to others.

-T

In Paris they just simply opened their eyes and stared when
we spoke to them in French! We never did succeed in making
those idiots understand their own language.

--Mark Twain - The Innocents Abroad



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: On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
: >
: >
: > "Todd" > wrote in message
: > ...
: >> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
: Hi Ian,

: Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
: (sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
: it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
: on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
: drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
: my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
: to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.



I find this strange as I have been on Metformin now for some 17-18 years
with none of the effects you, tidd, have experienced. I will grant that
some peol ehave bad results with different drugs, but one's own personal
bad experience may well NOT be universal. If a drug causes problems for
you you you should no be taking it, but that does nt mean that other folk
should stop taking it if it works adn does not cause them your smptoms.

Wendy



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On 10/01/2014 04:59 PM, W. Baker wrote:
> Todd > wrote:
> : On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : > "Todd" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : >> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> : Hi Ian,
>
> : Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
> : (sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
> : it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
> : on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
> : drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
> : my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
> : to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.
>
>
>
> I find this strange as I have been on Metformin now for some 17-18 years
> with none of the effects you, tidd, have experienced. I will grant that
> some peol ehave bad results with different drugs, but one's own personal
> bad experience may well NOT be universal. If a drug causes problems for
> you you you should no be taking it, but that does nt mean that other folk
> should stop taking it if it works adn does not cause them your smptoms.
>
> Wendy


Hi Wendy,
The depression (crabbiness) and delusional paranoia creep up on you.

You may not be aware of it. I certainly was not aware of it until
I got off it. I truly though everyone was picking on me. When
I got off it, oh boy, did I have a lot of apologizing to do.
You have shown signs of the crabbiness to me in the past. The
way you can figure it out is to ask someone close to you that you
can trust to give you the unvarnished truth if you have become
a crabass.

People that can not longer sleep had it sneak up on them too.
They have said in blogs they never recovered and were not
able to sleep again.

And don't forget the rebound effect. Met is an allopathic drug,
meaning it is a controlled dosage of a poison meant to cause
a desired reaction. This can save your life. But over the long run,
your body will rebound to it. My blood sugar dropped each time
I backed off on the stuff.

You have been on Met for a long time and know how to cook
low(er) carb. You may be healed by now and not need it. If
you get off it to see, be careful when the "dark curtain" lifts.
You might suddenly start enjoying things and people around you.

:-)

-T




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> Todd > wrote:
> : On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : > "Todd" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : >> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> : Hi Ian,
>
> : Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
> : (sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
> : it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
> : on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
> : drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
> : my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
> : to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.
>
>
>
> I find this strange as I have been on Metformin now for some 17-18 years
> with none of the effects you, tidd, have experienced. I will grant that
> some peol ehave bad results with different drugs, but one's own personal
> bad experience may well NOT be universal. If a drug causes problems for
> you you you should no be taking it, but that does nt mean that other folk
> should stop taking it if it works adn does not cause them your smptoms.


This is how I wound up getting put in Todd's killfile. I kept calling him
out on his lies again and again and again.

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> On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Todd" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>
>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> The following would help in answering your question
>>>
>>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>>
>>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>>> --- low carb and drug free

>>
>> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
>> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>>
>> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
>> of insulin never too far away!
>>
>> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
>> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
>> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.

>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Metformin is nasty stuff. Makes your hair fall out, gives you
> (sometimes permanent) insomnia, skin spots, and worst of all,
> it makes you paranoid delusional. Yep everybody is picking
> on you! It also has a rebound effect. When I initially went
> drug free, each time I backed off on the dosage of Metformin,
> my blood sugar went down. I also had to do A LOT of apologizing
> to people I lashed out at. Fortunately, they all forgave me.
>

Please do not listen to Todd. Just because *he* had some issues that he
thinks were related to Metformin doesn't mean that you will. It's once of
the safest drugs around.

As for Todd's lashing out, he has done that a lot here. He gets angry at
people who don't share his way of thinking and then puts them in his
killfile. He also says nasty things about people and claims that they are
not nasty.
>
> Consider your Tori remark may be the metformin speaking. You
> may also just think that. As I told myself when I was taking
> Metformin, even paranoid have enemies.
>
> Anyway, if your choice is to do the drug and high carb route,
> then I really don't have any advice. Just pick out nice shoes
> for your future prosthetic feet and a good dialysis center
> while you can still see.


Again, please ignore Todd. Please!
>
> If you decide to go the low carb, drug free route, here is
> a good web site to start with:
>
> http://www.diabetes-warrior.net/
>
> As for the way I do it (I am drug free for a year now), I
> remind myself of my Grandmother. I cook up a whole bunch
> of stuff most of the day on Sunday. Then I refrig or
> freeze most of it. Some times I blanch and deep freeze
> whatever abundance I have from the garden. Then during
> the week, I microwave what I cooked on Sunday. It is our
> form of fast food.
>
> I am also blessed by a trophy wife that eats what I
> eat so I am never tempted to go back to anything
> high carb (red beans, for example) that injured me in
> the first place. remember that T2 is an injury, not
> a disease.
>
> Other primals and paleos (I am primal) have discussed
> the fast food issue. They usually wind up cooking me.
> Some will buy a rotisserie chick on the way home. I
> don't, because they are so rancid, they make me want
> to hurl.
>
> -T
>
> Congrads on England staying in one piece.


Low carb may work for some people. Certainly not all. And low carb can
have its consequences too. For me, the consequence is high blood sugar.
And rotisserie chickens are not rancid. Another thing he is lying about.

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On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
> of insulin never too far away!


Hi Ian,

Insulin is nasty stuff.

To give you an idea of what is required if you decide to go
the drug free route, you will need to get your carbs down
to 30 grams or less per day until you heal, then 60 grams
per day or less. No banking and no fiber subtracting.

And here is a suggest life style to adopt for drug free too:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...mal-blueprint/

Lifestyle has a lot to do with healing from this kind of injury.

I did it. I love the food. And I love the lifestyle. I
eat better and fell better than memory.

Whatever you do, be sure to watch your numbers,

-T



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> On 10/01/2014 11:10 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
>> of insulin never too far away!

>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Insulin is nasty stuff.
>
> To give you an idea of what is required if you decide to go
> the drug free route, you will need to get your carbs down
> to 30 grams or less per day until you heal, then 60 grams
> per day or less. No banking and no fiber subtracting.
>
> And here is a suggest life style to adopt for drug free too:
> http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...mal-blueprint/
>
> Lifestyle has a lot to do with healing from this kind of injury.
>
> I did it. I love the food. And I love the lifestyle. I
> eat better and fell better than memory.
>
> Whatever you do, be sure to watch your numbers,
>
> -T


Now this is even worse!!! Please, people do not listen to Todd. He would
be killing diabetics by telling them that insulin is nasty stuff. People
*need* insulin. It is in our bodies. If some diabetics stop using their
insulin because of what Todd says, they will die. This is just beyond
ridiculous. This man knows not of what he speaks!

And here he is, shilling again for Mark's Daily Apple.

And what does this mean? "I eat better and fell better than memory"? Did
Todd fall and hit his head? That might explain things.

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>
> "Todd" > wrote in message
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>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>
>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>
>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>
>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.

>>
>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> The following would help in answering your question
>>
>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>
>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>> --- low carb and drug free

>
> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>
> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat of
> insulin never too far away!
>
> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.


I don't know what country you're in, but do you have canned beans there?
They are really not that much more expensive than dried. Can you get fresh
beans? I can't here. Since you have an Asian store, can you get bean
sprouts?

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ian Field" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Todd" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>
>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> The following would help in answering your question
>>>
>>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>>
>>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>>> --- low carb and drug free

>>
>> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
>> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>>
>> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat of
>> insulin never too far away!
>>
>> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
>> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
>> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.

>
> I don't know what country you're in, but do you have canned beans there?
> They are really not that much more expensive than dried. Can you get
> fresh beans? I can't here. Since you have an Asian store, can you get
> bean sprouts?


Generally I go in there mostly for spices, they're a *LOT* cheaper than
"name brand" little jars, usually I only notice odd items of food that I
think would work out a huge saving if I knew how to prepare it.

Maybe as much as 1/4 of their stock is dried beans & pulses etc. A lot of
the (presumably vegetables of some sort) I don't even know what they're
called.

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"Ian Field" > wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ian Field" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Todd" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>>
>>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there,
>>>>> no
>>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> The following would help in answering your question
>>>>
>>>> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>>>>
>>>> How have you decided to deal with it?
>>>> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
>>>> --- low carb and drug free
>>>
>>> The cost of food is a big issue while we endure austerity so the Tories
>>> can line the offshore bank accounts of their fatcat chums.
>>>
>>> Its T2 controlled by Metformin, sort of a fine balance with the threat
>>> of insulin never too far away!
>>>
>>> Red beans were just an example of the basics from the local Asian food
>>> market - the beans would have to be boiled until all the froth had been
>>> scooped off, not really practical in a microwave.

>>
>> I don't know what country you're in, but do you have canned beans there?
>> They are really not that much more expensive than dried. Can you get
>> fresh beans? I can't here. Since you have an Asian store, can you get
>> bean sprouts?

>
> Generally I go in there mostly for spices, they're a *LOT* cheaper than
> "name brand" little jars, usually I only notice odd items of food that I
> think would work out a huge saving if I knew how to prepare it.
>
> Maybe as much as 1/4 of their stock is dried beans & pulses etc. A lot of
> the (presumably vegetables of some sort) I don't even know what they're
> called.


Ah, okay. Somewhat different then our stores here then.

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> On 09/30/2014 08:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>
>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>
>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>> diabetic recipes.
>>
>> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.

>
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> The following would help in answering your question
>
> What kind of Diabetes do you have?
>
> How have you decided to deal with it?
> --- High carb (red beans) and drugs, or
> --- low carb and drug free
>
> -T


I know that Todd has me in his killfile but those are not the only two
options. Plenty of low carbers have to use meds.



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On 9/30/2014 8:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
> but can still be done in the microwave?
>
> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>
> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
> diabetic recipes.
>


Use your imagination: Improvise! Then check with your meter.

> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.


Who's "they"? Kraft, Nestle and Monsanto?

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"Don Roberto" > wrote in message
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> On 9/30/2014 8:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>
>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>
>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>> diabetic recipes.
>>

>
> Use your imagination: Improvise! Then check with your meter.


As a non-insulin T2, the NHS won't give me a meter, so I'd have to buy one.

Actually, I got a couple of meters from my salvage interests - but never
quite organised an expedition to buy some strips.

Last time I had a scheduled blood test I was a bit over, they increased my
Metformin and re-tested. The results of that declared my blood sugar "under
control".

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On 10/02/2014 11:06 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>
>
> "Don Roberto" > wrote in message
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>> On 9/30/2014 8:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>
>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>
>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>

>>
>> Use your imagination: Improvise! Then check with your meter.

>
> As a non-insulin T2, the NHS won't give me a meter, so I'd have to buy one.
>
> Actually, I got a couple of meters from my salvage interests - but never
> quite organised an expedition to buy some strips.
>
> Last time I had a scheduled blood test I was a bit over, they increased
> my Metformin and re-tested. The results of that declared my blood sugar
> "under control".


Hi Ian,

Sounds like you are on track.

Have you though of backing off on the carbs and see if your
blood sugar goes down?

Here in the States, Walmart has great prices on meters and
supplies.

How did they test your blood sugar? Meter? A1c? Fructosamine?
The A1c is really sloppy. Off by about +- 25%. (I will
provide a paper on that to who ever asks nicely.)

-T


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"Todd" > wrote in message
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> On 10/02/2014 11:06 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Don Roberto" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/30/2014 8:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>
>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Use your imagination: Improvise! Then check with your meter.

>>
>> As a non-insulin T2, the NHS won't give me a meter, so I'd have to buy
>> one.
>>
>> Actually, I got a couple of meters from my salvage interests - but never
>> quite organised an expedition to buy some strips.
>>
>> Last time I had a scheduled blood test I was a bit over, they increased
>> my Metformin and re-tested. The results of that declared my blood sugar
>> "under control".

>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Sounds like you are on track.
>
> Have you though of backing off on the carbs and see if your
> blood sugar goes down?
>
> Here in the States, Walmart has great prices on meters and
> supplies.
>
> How did they test your blood sugar? Meter? A1c? Fructosamine?
> The A1c is really sloppy. Off by about +- 25%. (I will
> provide a paper on that to who ever asks nicely.)
>
> -T


The A1c isn't sloppy.

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> "Don Roberto" > wrote in message
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>> On 9/30/2014 8:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>
>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>
>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>

>>
>> Use your imagination: Improvise! Then check with your meter.

>
> As a non-insulin T2, the NHS won't give me a meter, so I'd have to buy
> one.
>
> Actually, I got a couple of meters from my salvage interests - but never
> quite organised an expedition to buy some strips.
>
> Last time I had a scheduled blood test I was a bit over, they increased my
> Metformin and re-tested. The results of that declared my blood sugar
> "under control".


That's rather sad and scary. You should be able to test, particularly since
you are on medication. How would you know if you had a hypo?



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>>
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>> "Don Roberto" > wrote in message
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>>> On 9/30/2014 8:56 AM, Ian Field wrote:
>>>> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals,
>>>> but can still be done in the microwave?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a
>>>> microwave, but that general direction of food preparation.
>>>>
>>>> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
>>>> diabetic recipes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Use your imagination: Improvise! Then check with your meter.

>>
>> As a non-insulin T2, the NHS won't give me a meter, so I'd have to buy
>> one.
>>
>> Actually, I got a couple of meters from my salvage interests - but never
>> quite organised an expedition to buy some strips.
>>
>> Last time I had a scheduled blood test I was a bit over, they increased
>> my Metformin and re-tested. The results of that declared my blood sugar
>> "under control".

>
> That's rather sad and scary. You should be able to test, particularly
> since you are on medication. How would you know if you had a hypo?


Sometimes, about an hour or so after a dose of Metformin - I get feeling
faint and dizzy with the shakes and sometimes cold sweats.

Presumably since a caramel bar fixes it in short order - that's probably my
hypo symptoms.

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"Ian Field" > wrote in message
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> Are there any recipes about for food that's cheaper than ready meals, but
> can still be done in the microwave?
>
> Probably not practical to boil the froth out of red beans in a microwave,
> but that general direction of food preparation.
>
> The BBC website has a recipe section - but last time I looked there, no
> diabetic recipes.
>
> Maybe if enough people asked, they'd do something about it.


There are really no such things as diabetic recipes. You can make all sorts
of things in the microwave but whether you would like the results or not are
another matter.

Beans require long cooking so I doubt that you could do them in there. You
could buy canned beans though.

You can cook meat in the microwave but I wouldn't. Pretty much any other
vegetables but beans can be cooked in there.

When I was down with my foot injury, I bought rice and pasta cookers for the
microwave. The ones I got only do 1-2 servings at a time. My daughter was
able to use them.

For eggs, just beat like you would for scrambled. Add any veggies or meats
that you want. The meats should be cooked first. Add salt, pepper, milk or
water and a little butter, margarine or oil. You don't need a lot of the
fat. Just enough to add richness and keep the eggs from sticking. You can
do these in any microwaveable bowl or even a glass measuring cup. Nuke at
30 second intervals, stirring until they are the way you like them. If you
want cheese, stir in after the eggs are cooked.

Just look for microwave recipes. And look for ones that list the carb
counts.

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