In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

> There is nobody named DD in this house.

DD is daughter dearest

> Sure I could ask. And she could lie. So no point in that.

No point? I see that you've set it up perfectly for your daughter to control
you, just like your mom does

> > So, instead of actually asking DD if she did it, you went out and spent
> > money, which you have previously mentioned is a concern for you, on a
> > possibly unnecessary item?
>
> No. It was necessary. I ordered it several days ago from Walmart.com. Cost
> me 97 cents to have it delievered. I have been looking for a slim trash can
> because my kitchen is so small and the one we have is old, too big for the
> room and disgustingly stained. So I really did need a new one. Plus the
> kitten had been getting into it. I've seen her. I wanted something with a
> lid.

Nice deflection

> Again... There is no DD here.

Sure there is and even someone as dense as you knows who I am writing about

> >> Insane? I don't think so.
> >
> > The "so" seems totally redundant
>
> Whatever.

I see you are pretty good at channeling your inner 13 year old

> >> You must not have children. To expect a 13 year old to be responsible for
> >> her medial stuff is what's insane.
> >
> > I'm not talking about her medical stuff, I'm talking about the stuff she
> > puts in her mouth, which hopefully is food
>
> She knows how to read food labels.

and she knows how to make you take care of her dietary needs. Once again, the
food she eats is her problem not yours

> >> She has a friend who is a type 1 diabetic. She sneaks food all the time.
> >> It's what kids do. If kids of that age didn't need their parents then
> >> they would commonly be emancipated. And they're not.
> >
> > They would be commonly emancipated if they could prove they are
> > responsible. Since you seem unlike to provide an environment that
> > encourages DD to be responsible, she will enter legal adulthood totally
> > unprepared to take care of herself.
>
> Oh go take a hike!

I'm so wounded


> >> My parents left me home alone when I was 13. Not for the day but
> >> like...for a week. I did things I wasn't supposed to do. That's what
> >> kids do!
> >
> > Oh, so at age 13 you were able to feed and clothe yourself, but DD isn't?
>
> She has issues and I am not going to get into them with you since all you can
> do is take cheap pot shots at me.

So you do know who DD is. The only issue she has is that you refuse to treat her
like anything other than a baby.


> >> I never said she was indifferent. But what I will say is that you are an
> >> asshole. Yep. ASSHOLE!
> >
> > I'd be insulted, but in my experience, such lame insults from defective
> > mothers means nothing except that you are angry with yourself
>
> Whatever. I sense another one going into my KF.

Wickedly funny. I thought I was already there. But run away, you seem to be
extraordinarily good at doing that

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"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Julie Bove"
> >
> wrote:
>
>> There is nobody named DD in this house.
>
> DD is daughter dearest
>
>> Sure I could ask. And she could lie. So no point in that.
>
> No point? I see that you've set it up perfectly for your daughter to
> control
> you, just like your mom does

WTF? Why do you say my mom controls me? She doesn't live with me. She can
tell me whatever she wants. That doesn't mean I will do it. In case you
haven't noticed, I can be very stubborn and I pretty much do what I want
unless there is a law against it. Not that I am really into breaking laws
but you just never know.
>
>> > So, instead of actually asking DD if she did it, you went out and spent
>> > money, which you have previously mentioned is a concern for you, on a
>> > possibly unnecessary item?
>>
>> No. It was necessary. I ordered it several days ago from Walmart.com.
>> Cost
>> me 97 cents to have it delievered. I have been looking for a slim trash
>> can
>> because my kitchen is so small and the one we have is old, too big for
>> the
>> room and disgustingly stained. So I really did need a new one. Plus the
>> kitten had been getting into it. I've seen her. I wanted something with
>> a
>> lid.
>
> Nice deflection

What?
>
>> Again... There is no DD here.
>
> Sure there is and even someone as dense as you knows who I am writing
> about
>
As I said in my other post, I do not refer to anyone as "dear". I never
have and I never will. That just doesn't fit with my personality.

>> >> Insane? I don't think so.
>> >
>> > The "so" seems totally redundant
>>
>> Whatever.
>
> I see you are pretty good at channeling your inner 13 year old
>
>> >> You must not have children. To expect a 13 year old to be responsible
>> >> for
>> >> her medial stuff is what's insane.
>> >
>> > I'm not talking about her medical stuff, I'm talking about the stuff
>> > she
>> > puts in her mouth, which hopefully is food
>>
>> She knows how to read food labels.
>
> and she knows how to make you take care of her dietary needs. Once again,
> the
> food she eats is her problem not yours

*I* should be responsible for her diet. I am the parent! I was most likely
not your typical 13 year old. I am a big vegetable pusher and I always have
been. Always! Vegetables are my favorite foods. So the way I ate at 13
was not the way my friends ate at 13 nor is it the way most kids eat today
according to Angela and from what I have seen at the dance studio. They
like things like pizza, chicken nuggets, burgers, fries (lots of fries),
chips, candy, cookies, cupcakes, donuts, mac and cheese. Very rarely
salads. Now I don't know about the boys and what they eat. There are not
too many boys at the dance studio on the nights we have been there. Yes
there are all boy classes. But... When the girls start to begin to
discover boys, they may change their diets. But maybe not for the better.
They may do something like eat just a carrot. Or just a piece of meat with
the mistaken notion that it will slim them down. I do not see very many
teens who eat a balanced diet.

I did study nutition at that age. I have always been really into food. I
made my own trail mix. I entered recipe contests. That was my thing.

Angela knows the basics of nutrition. They teach it in school. But I do
think it's a bit much to expect her to know what to do when told to eat a
low carb diet. Especially when the "low carb" part wasn't spelled out by
the Dr. I will ask him more specifically what he means when we go in there.
By then we will have probably eaten most all of the high carb stuff we have
in the house.
>
>> >> She has a friend who is a type 1 diabetic. She sneaks food all the
>> >> time.
>> >> It's what kids do. If kids of that age didn't need their parents then
>> >> they would commonly be emancipated. And they're not.
>> >
>> > They would be commonly emancipated if they could prove they are
>> > responsible. Since you seem unlike to provide an environment that
>> > encourages DD to be responsible, she will enter legal adulthood totally
>> > unprepared to take care of herself.
>>
>> Oh go take a hike!
>
> I'm so wounded

Yeah.

In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:


> > No point? I see that you've set it up perfectly for your daughter to
> > control you, just like your mom does
>
> WTF? Why do you say my mom controls me? She doesn't live with me. She can
> tell me whatever she wants. That doesn't mean I will do it. In case you
> haven't noticed, I can be very stubborn and I pretty much do what I want
> unless there is a law against it. Not that I am really into breaking laws
> but you just never know.

You are unable to make your mother understand your dietary constraints and you
are unable to make your daughter take control of her dietary constraints


> > Nice deflection

Rather than address the issue, you spend money on it...and you are so proud that
you spent money to have Walmart ship their product to their store for you to
pick up.

> > and she knows how to make you take care of her dietary needs. Once again,
> > the food she eats is her problem not yours
>
> *I* should be responsible for her diet.

No. You should be responsible for seeing that she understands the need to
control her diet


> I am the parent!

And she is the one with the problem, isn't she?


I was most likely
> not your typical 13 year old. I am a big vegetable pusher and I always have
> been. Always! Vegetables are my favorite foods. So the way I ate at 13 was
> not the way my friends ate at 13 nor is it the way most kids eat today
> according to Angela and from what I have seen at the dance studio. They like
> things like pizza, chicken nuggets, burgers, fries (lots of fries), chips,
> candy, cookies, cupcakes, donuts, mac and cheese. Very rarely salads. Now I
> don't know about the boys and what they eat. There are not too many boys at
> the dance studio on the nights we have been there. Yes there are all boy
> classes. But... When the girls start to begin to discover boys, they may
> change their diets. But maybe not for the better. They may do something like
> eat just a carrot. Or just a piece of meat with the mistaken notion that it
> will slim them down. I do not see very many teens who eat a balanced diet.

So to recap, you were able to take control of your diet/nutritional needs, but
your daughter isn't. And just to point out the obvious, unless your daughter is
a zombie, she already knows about boys and probably more than you did at that
age.



>
> I did study nutition at that age. I have always been really into food. I
> made my own trail mix. I entered recipe contests. That was my thing.
> Angela knows the basics of nutrition. They teach it in school. But I do
> think it's a bit much to expect her to know what to do when told to eat a low
> carb diet. Especially when the "low carb" part wasn't spelled out by the Dr.
> I will ask him more specifically what he means when we go in there. By then
> we will have probably eaten most all of the high carb stuff we have in the
> house.

Wait a minute. At 13 without the web you studied nutrition, but your daughter is
unable to research her nutrition/medical needs?

Maybe her search engines are broken, but just exactly how hard is it to research
low-carb diet...I assume she actually knows how to dl iTunes

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