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Hello All,
This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland |
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![]() "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Not all of the coffee will remain on top, the idea is to have it imersed in the water. A burr grinder will allow you to grind the beans just before brewing for maximum flavor without pulverizing the beans. This is because the coffee bean acts as a protective layer to retard staling. Once ground you expose a greater surface area to oxygen and also a lot of the flavorful aromatic components are lost. Keep reading this news group and soon you will be roasting your own beans for maximum freshness. Welcome to alt.coffee. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland |
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![]() "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Not all of the coffee will remain on top, the idea is to have it imersed in the water. A burr grinder will allow you to grind the beans just before brewing for maximum flavor without pulverizing the beans. This is because the coffee bean acts as a protective layer to retard staling. Once ground you expose a greater surface area to oxygen and also a lot of the flavorful aromatic components are lost. Keep reading this news group and soon you will be roasting your own beans for maximum freshness. Welcome to alt.coffee. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland |
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![]() "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. I think the standard procedure is to NOT stir the coffee at first. Then let it sit for some certain amount of time. Then DO stir (or swirl the pot). Then let it sit for some more time. Then press and drink. The wait times would depend on how fine you grind the coffee, the finer the grind, the less you let it sit. For specific instructions on Press Pot brewing, see http://www.sweetmarias.com/brewinstr.frenchpress.html You really should grind your own coffee, but you need a burr grinder not a whirly blade type. -Tony- |
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![]() "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. I think the standard procedure is to NOT stir the coffee at first. Then let it sit for some certain amount of time. Then DO stir (or swirl the pot). Then let it sit for some more time. Then press and drink. The wait times would depend on how fine you grind the coffee, the finer the grind, the less you let it sit. For specific instructions on Press Pot brewing, see http://www.sweetmarias.com/brewinstr.frenchpress.html You really should grind your own coffee, but you need a burr grinder not a whirly blade type. -Tony- |
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In alt.coffee Mark L. Breen wrote:
My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. It should not be on top of the water. It should swirl all through the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. Buy a decent burr grinder. Look at the Bodum for an inexpensive ne, or buy one on eBay. -- ....I'm an air-conditioned gypsy... - The Who |
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In alt.coffee Mark L. Breen wrote:
My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. It should not be on top of the water. It should swirl all through the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. Buy a decent burr grinder. Look at the Bodum for an inexpensive ne, or buy one on eBay. -- ....I'm an air-conditioned gypsy... - The Who |
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Mark L. Breen wrote:
Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland And the coffee should be ground quite coarse such as an American perculator grind -- if you have ever seen that garbage. This, of course, is so it will not pass through the screen. Miles |
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Mark L. Breen wrote:
Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland And the coffee should be ground quite coarse such as an American perculator grind -- if you have ever seen that garbage. This, of course, is so it will not pass through the screen. Miles |
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Hello to All,
thanks for your advice, that sounds great, I am now off to investigate roasting my own beans, I love the idea of that, I wonder will I be able to buy 'non roasted beans in Ireland' Thanks again Mark "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland |
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Hello to All,
thanks for your advice, that sounds great, I am now off to investigate roasting my own beans, I love the idea of that, I wonder will I be able to buy 'non roasted beans in Ireland' Thanks again Mark "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland |
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![]() .. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland,(so sorry to hear that- my regrets) and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Maybe you dont like the sediment in the brew.Have you tried a vacuum pot? They have less sediment and though you still should stir a vac pot brew you dont have to. Bodum makes a good one, and there are others out there. I would definately buy a better grinder- Solis Maestro,Bodum Antigua etc. Roasting your own is the next step up and I am sure you will be pleased with the results. The learning curve is fast and it is well worth the time and trouble IMHO. Bon Chance Stewart |
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![]() .. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland,(so sorry to hear that- my regrets) and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Maybe you dont like the sediment in the brew.Have you tried a vacuum pot? They have less sediment and though you still should stir a vac pot brew you dont have to. Bodum makes a good one, and there are others out there. I would definately buy a better grinder- Solis Maestro,Bodum Antigua etc. Roasting your own is the next step up and I am sure you will be pleased with the results. The learning curve is fast and it is well worth the time and trouble IMHO. Bon Chance Stewart |
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Mark L. Breen wrote:
Hello to All, thanks for your advice, that sounds great, I am now off to investigate roasting my own beans, I love the idea of that, I wonder will I be able to buy 'non roasted beans in Ireland' Thanks again Mark "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland Hopefully you will find them. Check the phone book commercial pages for coffee roasters to see if there is a local small roaster near you that would sell you a small quantity of beans -- also you will need to experiment with blending which is three-quarters of the fun. Miles |
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Mark L. Breen wrote:
Hello to All, thanks for your advice, that sounds great, I am now off to investigate roasting my own beans, I love the idea of that, I wonder will I be able to buy 'non roasted beans in Ireland' Thanks again Mark "Mark L. Breen" wrote in message ... Hello All, This is my first email to a coffee news group, if there are FAQ's somewhere, I would appreciate a pointer. My question is, I use a plunge pot in Ireland, and I wonder is it better to stir the coffee immediately after I add the water or not. I seem to get better coffee if I do not stir. I wonder is it because the coffee itself acts as a filter for the smaller particles when you do not stir. I find that if I stir, the coffee does not remain on the top of the water. Additionally, I have given up grinding my own beans because I formed the opinion my grinder does not in fact grind, but actually shatters the beans and gives me powder instead of ground coffee. So now a days I buy ground coffee. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time Mark Breen Ireland Hopefully you will find them. Check the phone book commercial pages for coffee roasters to see if there is a local small roaster near you that would sell you a small quantity of beans -- also you will need to experiment with blending which is three-quarters of the fun. Miles |
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